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2010: The year in review 67

by Derek Kessler Fri, 31 Dec 2010 7:57 pm EST

2010 was quite the year for the Palm faithful. Things may not have gone the way we’d hoped at the start of the year, but by and large it was an interesting ride. A lot happened in the past year, and despite all of it Palm has still come quite far. For example, the year started with 1,000 apps in the App Catalog, we’re now up over 5,000. webOS had just hit version 1.3.5, and Palm was an independent company with just the Palm Pre and Palm Pixi available. After the break, we take a long look back at the year that was 2010.

2009 ended with a New Years Eve push to get the App Catalog up to 1,000 apps. But it was the start of 2010 that we were looking forward to: CES was just a few days away.

CES 2010

We weren’t exactly sure what to expect from Palm at CES 2010, and they didn’t disappoint. They showed off webOS 1.4 with video recording and support for Flash 10.1. Palm opened up their app feeds to all, and unveiled the new Palm Pre Plus with double the RAM and Palm Pixi Plus with the Wi-Fies for Verizon and SFR. Oh, and PDK development for natively-coded apps, available that very day. CES 2010 was full of news, and the year looked to be off to a good start.

The Pre Plus and Pixi Plus arrive

It didn’t take long for the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus to arrive on our doorstep for review. The differences between the Plus devices and their older siblings (soon to be dubbed the “minuses” by the community) were on paper on that different, but in practice made for a world of difference. For starters, double the RAM on the Pre Plus meant far more than double the app action.

Blessedly, it didn’t take that long for the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus to launch on Verizon either, hitting shelves by the end of January. Certainly better than the six-month announcement-to-available window that we had to sit through for the original Pre. And then things took a turn for the sour: Verizon botched advertising hard for the Pre Plus. Assuming that they needed a counterpart to the masculine Motorola Droid advertising, they decided that the Pre Plus would be a good phone for moms. That’s not to say that it’s not, but really?

Hot Apps Competitions

In an effort to kick webOS app development into high gear, Palm announced a new Hot Apps competition that put a total of one million dollars onto the line. More than four hundred top apps, both free and paid, split the cash. The most downloaded free and paid apps each netted a $100,000 prize when the contest concluded in July. Soon thereafter, a second million dollar Hot Apps competition was launched, this time for PDK apps.

Things start to get hairy

Mid-January brought the news that Palm had shut down production of the just introduced Pre Plus and Pixi Plus. While the report was quickly squashed by Palm, saying that production had been shut down for the Chinese New Year, it was the first sign that things really might not have been as rosy as we would have liked.

Then Google changed some seemingly innocuous requirements for Google Voice apps that shouldn’t have mattered a single bit to the end user. Unless you used webOS, in which case the star Google Voice app, gDial Pro, was rendered inoperable because there was no way for webOS to support what Google demanded. It likely wasn’t intentional, but it wasn’t the last time we’d see support for Palm evaporate.

After some harsh downgrades and forecasts, Palm’s stock price dropped precipitously. In fact, by the middle of February Palm shares were worth less than half their value just five months earlier. That all reflected the reality of Palm’s situation: Apple and Android were enjoying tremendous success, while webOS devices accounted for less than 1% worldwide. But at least Epocrates had finally arrived, right? Ten months later, Epocrates announced that they were done with Palm.

Palm admitted by the end of the month that things weren’t going so hot, going so far as to say that “fiscal year 2010 revenues to be well below” their previously forecasted targets. Any time a company comes out and says something like that, it means things are bad.

Palm stock takes a nosedive

The reprieve from doom and gloom brought to us by homebrew magics was quickly crushed by economic reality: Palm shares dropped a stunning 19% in one day. Palm and Verizon were struggling to get sales off the ground, admitting that Verizon’s sales reps were not well-trained to sell the webOS devices. Palm “Brand Ambassadors” were send to Verizon stores to train the staff, but the damage was already done.

While the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus had hit Verizon in good time, it took nearly two months for Palm to finally push out webOS 1.4, though it wasn’t without its bugs. March came around and Palm brought manufacturing back online, but that wasn’t good enough for credit agency Standard & Poor’s, who turned their outlook on Palm to negative.

Developer Relations Team shows their stuff

Palm’s Developer Relations Team was one of the few consistently bright spots for Palm in 2010. First their was Hot Apps, and then they ate their own dog food in programming the excellent and continually-evolving Facebook app. After a few months in private beta with big name game developers, the native-coding PDK was opened up to public beta. The floodgates opened shortly thereafter to the native app revolution. Shortly thereafter, the App Catalog topped 30 million downloads. Palm even managed to get a Developer Purchase Program up and running, giving developers 20% off the list price of an off-contract (but carrier-locked CDMA) phone.

Overclocking goes mainstream

Homebrew developers had been tinkering with the webOS kernel for some time, but it wasn’t until mid-March that the real breakthrough was made. First they got the Pre running up to the 600MHz speed the chip was designed to handle, with teasing of overclocking to a blistering 800MHz. By the end of March, 800MHz was a reality for the homebrew public. Palm, of course, had to say that they didn’t recommend it, though we’ve yet to see a rash of Pre phones baked into brickdom. A full 1GHz overclock came in late August.

Palm goes all in

The Sprint launch didn’t go as well as Palm had hoped. Neither did the Verizon launch. But Palm wasn’t about to give up, and launched a new series of ads and a tagline (Life moves fast, don’t miss a thing) to help shore up sales. But they knew the outlook was grim, CEO Jon Rubinstein admitted that the fourth quarter for Palm would simply not be good, and that he believes the Pre Plus would have done much better on Verizon if they’d launched before the Droid. Except that, due to Sprint’s exclusivity, they couldn’t.

The third quarter 2009 results for Palm were announced in mid-March (don’t ask us, it’s a strange fiscal calendar), and as expected, it wasn’t good. Palm shipped less than a million devices, and fewer than half of those were actually sold to customers. The next day investors did not take kindly to the news, sending Palm shares down another 29%.

The Pre Plus and Pixi Plus were announced at the end of March to be coming to AT&T in “the coming months,” a phrase we’d learn to love and loath in the coming months.

And then things started to get weird. A rumor circulated that Palm would be dumping webOS for Android, but keeping the webOS cards interface and grafting it on top of Google’s OS. Needless to say, we didn’t believe it, and unsurprisingly, it didn’t pan out.

With Palm’s stock price still falling, we began to wonder, what might Palm have that another company would want? Certainly not a huge customer base, and while webOS was clearly nice, they were having trouble making the case to the consumer. Patents, however, it turns out Palm had plenty of. Including some doozies like "Integrated Handheld Computing and Telephony System and Services," i.e. smartphone.

webOS 1.4.1 landed to wrap up March, bringing plenty of bug fixes to the mix. Most importantly, it opened up the paid App Catalog to locales outside of the United States.

Takeover rumors swirl

Late spring found Palm’s stock in the toilet and the analysts were circling like sharks coming in for the kill. Rumors of a potential buy-out began to swirl, with names like RIM, Lenovo, HTC, and Huawei being tossed around. Reports even came out that Palm was shopping itself to potential buyers. Apart from selling the company, Palm was reported to be considering options like licensing webOS.

DataViz pulls out, QuickOffice Steps In

Documents To Go had been a mainstay on Palm devices for years. They were a launch partner for the original Pre, and their Word and Excel viewer app had been a part of webOS since launch. But their development of a full-featured document-editing solution? That wasn’t going so hot. In fact, it was cold. DataViz announced at the end of April that development for webOS was “at a standstill” due to an apparent lack of “necessary collaboration with the device manufacturer that is required to bring an app like ours to a platform like webOS.” Ouch.

It took until September for DataViz to finally pull the plug on Documents to Go for webOS. Their exit was less than graceful, and filled with a lot of spite. Thankfully, the folks at QuickOffice were there to fill the void, providing the reader software in webOS 2.0, and promising a full editing suite.

HP saves the day

We can’t say we saw this coming. HP, a company never mentioned in the rumors surrounding a possible Palm buyout, stepped in on April 28th to announce their $1.2 billion acquisition of Palm. HP had big plans for Palm, specifically, big plans for webOS, including but not limited to tablets and printers powered by webOS. It wouldn’t be until the first of July that HP completed their purchase of Palm. Turns out that there were actually four other unnamed companies in the running, but in the end HP was the only one.

Palm returns to AT&T

Palm always had a cozy relationship with Sprint and a warm one with Verizon, but AT&T always seemed kind of distant. That got better in mid May with the Pre Plus finally coming to AT&T’s network. It took a few more weeks, but eventually the Pixi Plus came to AT&T as well.

The Great Brain Drain of 2010

With Palm headed to HP’s cozy warm cash-stuff bed, you’d think that there wouldn’t be a staff problem, right? Wrong. Matias Duarte left for Google, Rich Dellinger moved to Apple, Mike Abbott went to Twitter, Lynn Fox joined uStream, Ben Galbraith and Dion Almaer stepped back to consultant status, David Temkin switched to AOL, Mike Bell was hired by Intel, and Peter Skillman is now employed by Nokia. Palm at least managed to snag Ari Jaaski, formerly of Nokia, to head webOS development.

Mark Hurd makes us dizzy

HP received customary anti-trust clearance from the SEC to purchase Palm. And then HP CEO Mark Hurd whipped the Palm community into a tizzy with this line: “We didn’t buy Palm to be in the smartphone business.” He clarified a bit by saying that HP’s all into connected devices, a category they see as including smartphones, but we couldn’t help but be a little concerned. That wasn’t enough, so HP just came out and said it: they’re going to continue to make webOS smartphones. That enough? Yes.

HP goes on an acquisition binge

Soon after announcing their purchase of Palm, HP went on a shopping spree, snapping up companies left and right. We can’t say for sure that all of these purchases were for shoring up their plans for Palm, HP is a huge company with many divisions, after all. But we can see a part for Palm in each one. There was the quick-booting Hyperspace Linux OS and cloud-streaming music company Melodeo in June. Late August and early September bought the inexplicably amusing back-and-forth with Dell over cloud storage firm 3PAR. HP CTO Phil McKinney addressed the acquisiton fever in late September, explaining that HP is working to build a seamless product ecosystem that takes “burden off the customers.”

Palm hearts developers

In an effort to boost App Catalog sales, and thus make some dough for developers, Palm decided to run a half-off sale. To make it better, they still gave developers the 30% cut they would have gotten at full price. The sale ran all the way through July. To further garner developer interest, Palm permanently vanquished the App Catalog submission fee, and even refunded the submission prices of all previous apps. And then they dropped the $99/year App Catalog developer membership fee. Developing for webOS now only takes a developer’s time. And a computer.

HP’s CTO of Gaming Rahul Sood got in on the action too, encouraging game developers to “get in on the ground floor” with webOS.

The PalmPad

It all started with a trademark filing in July, followed by a rumor about pen input. Early August brought a report from inside HP that a webOS tablet would be launching in the first quarter of 2011, which HP officially confirmed a week later. Unsurprisingly, the Palm tablet is destined to be somewhat like the iPad, though we imagine there will be some differences. Palm is rumored to have placed an order for 6-7 million tablets from Inventec for 2011, though, like all rumors, we recommend salt. Analysts, however, only seem to be speculating on the date, with the general consensus being March 2011. It also apparently will have a slick Bluetooth keyboard accessory.

HP needs a new CEO

HP surprised us by buying Palm, and just when we were getting settled in, they went and forced CEO Mark Hurd to resign over falsified expense reports and sexual harassment allegations. Oh, the drama. Hurd left with a $30 million severance package, and after HP’s stock took a hit some shareholders decided to sue. Hurd ended up with buddy Larry Ellison over at frienemy Oracle, a move that ticked off HP to no end. Eventually they made nice, with Hurd giving back is $30 million and HP backing off the whole lawsuit thing. Still, HP was without a CEO. How about Apple’s Tim Cook? No. The end of September finally brought us HP’s new CEO: Leo Apotheker, formerly of German software firm SAP. We’ll admit, at first we were a little concerned, but he’s grown on us.

Angry Birds

We had something to put here, but we were too busy flinging enraged avian projectiles at malevolent porcine fortresses.

HP webOS 2.0 and the Palm Pre 2

August 31st brought us our first look at webOS 2.0. It was to bring card-grouping Stacks to multitasking, at-a-glance information to our Touchstones with Exhibition, Quick Actions, in-app searching, and more to Just Type (formerly known as Universal Search), and a whole heck of a lot of new goodies for developers like JavaScript services, Mojo Core, improved HTML5 support, opened-up Synergy, and hybrid PDK/Mojo apps.

Early October brought us the P102 smartphone, at least that’s what the FCC called it. Cleared in both GSM and CDMA varieties, we learned that the phone was a slider with a 1GHz processor, and a design similar enough to the current Pre and Pre Plus to use the same Touchstone back.

It was SFR that spilled the beans, revealing the phone to be the Palm Pre 2. The Pre 2 came with the previously-discovered 1GHz processor, a refined case, and a glass screen, apart from that it was a very similar phone to the current generation Pre devices. It took HP a few days to finally announce the new device and formally unveil webOS 2.0, now HP-branded. There were a few extra goodies not seen in the preview, like Skype for Verizon and Flash 10.1 for everyone (except Pixi owners). The Pre 2 was headed to Verizon, somebody in Canada (Rogers, eventually), SFR, and unlocked to developers. We’re still wondering when it’s actually going to launch on Verizon, but you can buy an unlocked GSM Pre 2 directly from HP, on which developers get $200 off.

Unannounced, however, was the removal of the old school Palm OS ROM from webOS 2.0. Motion Apps, the makers of the Palm OS emulator Classic, took pretty great offense at the removal, understandably, as they weren’t given any warning that their app would no longer be possible. Thankfully, the homebrew community wouldn’t let that stand, and figure out (at least hypothetically) how to get Classic to work on webOS 2.0.

webOS 2.0 was available if you were willing to buy a Pre 2, assuming that you lived in France. The folks at WebOS Internals would have nothing of it, and set about to do the unpossible: hack webOS 2.0 together with 1.4.5 and make it run on current generation hardware. So far they’ve made limited progress, and the process is not for the faint of heart.

Thankfully, it might not be too long. We got a look at some screenshots of webOS 2.0 running on a Sprint Pre, and it had voice dialing! Additionally, we got a glimpse of webOS 2.0.1 on a Bell Pre, with Exhibition looking all kinds of stylish.

Goodbye Pre

Nearly eighteen months after it launch on Sprint, the original Palm Pre received end-of-life status.

HP webOS Developer Day NYC 2010

Palm held a developer weekend earlier in the year, and HP decided that they wanted one this fall in New York City. Attendees (and by extension, PreCentral readers) got a preview of Preware 2.0, our first look at Exhibition, and a sample of the next-generation Enyo app framework. Palm was even cool enough to post videos of every presentation online. While we were there, we watched live as Rod Whitby of WebOS Internals hacked a Pre 2 together with a Sprint Pre to make a Sprint FrankenPre 2.

Looking forward to 2011

Yeah, that’s a lot. And really, that’s not the half of it. 2010 was an upside down year for Palm, but 2011 is literally upon us. The competition brought their game in 2010, and it’s only going to be tougher for HP and Palm in 2011.

Do they have what it takes? We’re going to find out. But we don’t suspect it’s going to be a CES. HP has promised great new products for 2011, including new webOS phones (possibly to include a Pixi 2), as well as the PalmPad tablet. We wouldn’t count on any webOS printers in 2011, but webOS 2.0/2.0.1/2.1 is all but assured.

We’ve seen some hints of what’s to come in codenames like the broadway, mantaray, and windsor, and we’re hoping that Palm took some idea from the excellent entries in our “Mock up the next Palm device” contest, and if they want to read up on some of our rants, that’s cool too.

2011 is poised to be an even more fascinating year in the mobile sector than 2010 was. And we can’t wait.

For kicks, here are (in no particular order) the most popular stories of 2010:


What an emotional roller coaster this year has been.... New year's resolution will be:



sorry about your wish i just an email hp france extolling in pre2 for yule gift but it was sent on 2 of jan 11 tell me if this not a doom act !maybe they drank to much they forgot to sent the mails for xmas sales

In this New Year for Palm, I expect at CES they will speak of resolutions to resolve their WAIT problem. But, through out the year, I expect failure and greater WAIT concerns than ever.

Wow. This year came and went. I grabbed a Pre + in February and I have never regretted it. Although I wanted new Palm devices to come out, I think HP was the correct suitor for Palm. There was no way Palm would have kept in pace with Google, Apple and Microsoft. Here's a toast for 2011!

Did you mean "Here's a toaster for 2011?"!

I wouldn't mind a webOS toaster that automatically starts toasting my bread every morning at 6:45am. One less thing for me to do.

That was actually kind of depressing to read.

I'm with you there. I'm reading this and wondering why I still have the Pre and didn't use my upgrade credit last June. Flash at CES 2010 was going to be released "in the coming months"...I still don't have it.

The only thing that really happened was that I got video recording and games.

HP/Palm needs to demonstrate pretty early in the year that 2011 won't be more empty promises like 2010.

It's amazing how fast the smartphone world is moving. Hard to believe that a big corporation like HP wouldn't be planning to give the iPhone and Android a run for their money in 2011. I'll stick around for 6 to 12 months to find out simply because my Homebrew'd Pre is still pretty cool and I really don't want to switch from WebOS.

Unless the competition comes out with something so amazing that....oops, sorry, I will, I really will try to remain patient and loyal!

Has anyone seen the new big blue pop-up ads of HP webOS. I got one on this site, PhoneArena.com, and yahoo.com.

Thats something else to add to 2010.

Yeah, part of Palm's marketing campaign to developers. They're trying to get devs to work on apps for webOS by sharing success stories of app developers.

Sounds like the majority of the 'good' that happened in webOS land was due to the faithful homebrew community. You guys rock! Thank you for doing so much for us all, while it seems that HP and Palm have only talked about what they will do. I sure hope we see something real at CES from HPalm. I don't want to lose faith in the future of webOS.

Homebrew has been the saving grace of WebOS. It's almost as if HP is now dependent on Homebrew to make the o/s complete. How bout it brewers, where is my flash that Jon promised a year ago, and never mentioned again? Its not so much the waiting as the waiting with no feedback from Palm that has killed the passion for WebOS.

Good article, Derek. You are too humble as you were the one way back still in 2009 that suggested HP as a potential buyer of Palm.

I'm not sure that we can call this year much of a success for Palm. There were lots of successes in '09 that could have been built upon, but a few missteps (Verizon) put an end to many opportunities.

The HP buyout was probably the biggest success of the year. Hopefully there is a lot of foundational work going on now that will lead to some big successes in '11.

As you might expect, I think the DataViz debacle is a big failure, with plenty of blame to go around. I'm not saying that document editing is the most important issue facing webOS, but it seem to me that it is an indicator, a bell-weather issue that has indicated the direction the platform is going.

Now if we can just get 2.0 on our old Pre's, and if we can get Quickoffice's full editing suite ready to go, then we'll all have something to be excited about. Oh, and some new, cutting-edge hardware would be nice too.

And for those of you following, yeah, I'm back.

My fix for enabling Classic to continue working on 2.0 isn't hypothetical anymore -- hasn't been since the day after it was announced. Someone with a Pre2 confirmed it worked.

Also, that fix most likely won't be needed, as the user who confirmed it to work also confirmed that the location where the old ROM was is actually a symbolic link to the location where Classic would be installed (i.e. Palm removed the ROM so MotionApps would have to include it in the app's IPK, rather than waste 10MB of the less than 500MB allocated to the system)

That's great to hear Arthur. I had suspected something along those lines. Well, since MotionApps jumped the gun and gave all the code to Palm, it will be interesting to see where Classic ends up.

It was what I thought the whole time as well, but I figured it needed a solution.

And I truly hope Palm releases a new Classic that enables that functionality in webOS 2.0, or that MotionApps takes the source back and repackages it. But I doubt they will since they made a very public announcement declaring Palm was breaking contracts and essentially bullying them (when they really just made a mistaken assumption.

Mistaken assumption or just an excuse to get out. They were paid up front, after all.

Sprint needs some love, and a Palm Pre Plus/2

Tell it to Sprint -- and I'm saying that as a Sprint Pre owner.

The Catalog does not have 5000 apps... I'm sorry, but please read this

"I don't think it should count, so it doesn't" isn't a valid argument.

I agree.

If this person doesn't want them to count, then the person should set up his/her own feed reader to pull in the data from Palm, parse it, pull out the apps that "should count" and then count those.

But I'll be that is too tough for the person, whereas just talking is probably a bit easier for them.

Let me ask though, does any other platform allow that? Does Apple count books in their App Store, or Android? I'm not trying to be an ass, I'm asking. I don't think I'm in the minority here when nearly 1/5 of the claimed 'apps' are books. You're making me feel like I'm taking crazy pills.

Its useless to many at best and disingenuous at worst.

Seems Blackberry has a similar issue.

Apple counts books that were there before the iBooks store was created. They also count wallpaper packages, soundboards, and everything else. Android counts all of that, plus things like keyboards.

Just because something is crap doesn't mean it doesn't count. Dodge counted every Neon sold in their count of "how many cars we sold in 1999," even though the car was crap. Microsoft counted every netbook sold in their count of "how many Windows PCs were sold this year," even though a lot of those netbooks are crap.

Truth is, if it's packaged as a standalone application, it is an application. The true measure of an app store's success, at least if you ask me, is how many downloads there are to spread across those apps.

Whoa buddy! Are you saying the Neon is crap? That's just crazy talk! Ferrari? Pff! give me a Neon baby! (sarcasm) But i digress. I'm not sure it's the same. What's a car is pretty standard. But a fork lift has 4 wheels and we don't count every one john deer sells just cause it's similar to a car. And do vans count? What about campers and semi trucks? If they sell semi trailers and trailer hitches separately do they count too? I think there is a finer line though between an app and a book encased in an app or an ebook or an song encased in an app. The truth is i don't know and don't actually think it's that important in the case of cars or apps.

if they webos counts books fine but i say count every book apple sells period. But i think raw numbers can be enlightening but don't tell you much.

BUT THE BIG POINT is the app catalog, whether you count them or not has a large portion of stuff of questionable worth and very little of the apps needed to attract more then the minute amount of palm loyalists. It's probably the number one or two reason my next phone is unlikely to be a palm phone regardless of the hardware released at CES. Honestly i don't care how man soundboards or book craps you got when i'm looking for netflix or espn or shazam or mint or amplitube. You either have it or you don't. And i decide for or against you based on that. That situation has to change and fast or the platform will perish in my not remotely humble opinion.

I'm off to wax the Daytons on my Neon.

I kinda agree with the author of this article; however the other catalogs have junk apps and count them, so Palm should too. And I suspect the ratio of quality/junk is probably similar in all the catalogs. The only apps I think shouldn't be counted are trial/lite versions since they really are duplicates. However if the other catalogs count them, then Palm should too.

That's silly.

While I agree that there are lots of redundant and/or crap apps - the same is true for IPhone and Android. So if one uses other criteria than raw numbers, then the same would need to be done for the other apps stores and suddenly IPhone wouldn't have 300k and Andoird would have much less than 100k.

But it's just easier to compare raw numbers - even though we have to to keep in mind that some percentage is sorta fake crap.

At the end of the day each of us will only ever be interested in the 5-50 apps that we individually decide to install and use - and all the rest might just as well not exist.

There is probably some worth in a true app score. Maybe i should study android, ios, and others in my depth and get some statistics on overall percentages. I would bet pretty good money that android is rife with this.

I have over a 100 apps on my Evo 80% games my pre has about 40 apps once again 80% of them are games Palm is just to far behind now still no flash is crazy i bought the Pre for it as they were the first to really talk about flash on a phone but it still hasn't happened.

Actually, flash is in 2.0, as evidenced by the Pre 2.

And to add to your numbers, I've got well over a hundred on my phone, far less than half are games. I don't game on my phone much, but even so, webOS had the big name mobile game devs porting games to webOS before Android got them.

H/Palm will first come to China before other Asian countries in 2011 !

Happy New Year PreCentral community. 2011 will rock for HP Palm. Here's to new hardware.

Well the "2011 Year in Review" better start off with "HPalm knocked our socks off at CES 2011"....

Don't count on it.

Go big or go home.

From Palms' Facebook Page:

"Palm wishes everyone a safe and Happy New Year! 2011 is going to be awesome!"

They're gearing up folks.

I'm just happy that it was HP and not Huawei. Even if they were successful at using the smartphone and WebOS patents, I'd be afraid that we wouldn't see much of Palm here or in Europe, and if we would, the devices would lag behind in the release roadmap schedule.

How do you comment using the +1 or -1 boxes, Im sure its easy but do not know how.

On the left side there's a reply link on every post.

How do you reply to adjust number counter.

See my comment below. I'm guessing you're using MS Internet Explorer. If that's not the case, I'm not sure.

How in the heck do you reply to posts on the mobile site?!?

FYI, the mobile site is a work in progress, be patient.

I can only vote on comments when I'm not using I.E. I have to use chrome, or go to the full site on my pre.

I'm not a member of PC's staff, but I thought I should respond just to be helpful.


I was over and done with palm 6 months after my pre, I just roll these forums to see how pathetic peiple can be all the while myself being just as pathetic for commenting right beneath you , F Palm and or WebOS It's wiggity wiggity wack

Jealousy is an ugly thing, and so is mnoble999. I'm surprised your mommy let you play with the computer. Go outside and play with the wooden stump now...

learn to spell you roll forums peiple what is that people spell check is needed it

also D. Kessler (D. Is for Derek) ur "Neon/Dodge" metephor is totally stupid

Oh, by the way: 1) The word you wanted to use was analogy, not metaphor, and 2) you misspelled metaphor. I think you just lost any credibility you had to judge the cellphone market. Why are you reading this? I told you to go outside and play with the tree stump...

Wow, he basically admitted he was a troll!!! And, he insinuated he owns a Neon. Poor guy!

Wish they would’ve given us 2.0 yesterday... It would make it easier to think 2011 it’s going to be a great year

It speaks volumes that in the year review the majority of the topics are NOT about Palm delivering something to the consumer. If you're an average user most of the highlights may effect you tangentially but aren't about directly providing enhancement to your user experience.

In 2010, the Homebrew and PreCentral did great jobs. Not easy supporting a dying platform with enthusiasm.

Sure it is. You think this is a charity? Anyway, once in a while I pop into my old Sprint Instinct forum to see what they're saying over there. Believe it or not, there are still a few diehards there that sound an awful lot like the WebOS faithful.

Dave you said it perfectly, thanks to the good community, we've made it thru another year until we switch from this dying platform.

We've been knocked to the ground, but Nurse Packard will revive us, and boy, what a looker she is... :)

googling nurse packard

i'll be honest, I don't know who that is but from the women in the results i got i'd have to say "If it's mouth to mouth from them or a slow death just please just let me die."

Ok, I just made that up, but it sounded good at the time... :)

oh damn. it totally thought that was someone real. Hey it could be. Everytime i watch TMZ there's some new teen starlet from a vampire show or movie i've never seen on their getting caught snorting coke or posting half naked picks on facebook and i'm like damn i've never even heard of this girl and she's on tv. I just figure it was one of them.

Nurse Packard is whoever you want her to be. A polymorphism joke, get it?? :)

For those clueless out there (you know, the one's playing with tree stumps), Nurse Packard's first name is Hewlett. Her parents hated her from birth. Ok, this is getting too weird even for me...

no not really but i'll take your word for it.

I am so frickiin happy with my homebrewed pre-. Most anyone that sees how my phone runs with the patches and overclocked are like, "damn!" 2011 is bound to be great for us. I'm just glad that it doesn't feel like doom anymore. Not to me anywayz.


I actually wanted 2.0 on the 31st but oh well I still have my homebrew apps and patches.

Okay, this is crazy, but wouldn't it be cool if Classic was includex in the release of 2.0 and all my old Palm apps would run? Would that count for the app catalogue. This could be a fun year...

"To make it better, they still gave developers the 30% cut they would have gotten at full price"

I thought developerss get 70%, and Palm keeps 30%. Right?