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All I want for Christmas (for webOS) 18

by Derek Kessler Sat, 24 Dec 2011 11:40 pm EST

Dear Santa,

I know, I know… late again this year. I swear I’m not doing this on purpose, but really Christmas just came up so fast this year with everything going on. The past year didn’t really go as planned, though things started off pretty well. I know I said some things that might qualify me for the naughty list, but it’s because I was speaking from the heart. Being honest and saying what needs to be said without sugar coating is a good thing, right?

It’s been a while since I’ve talked to Uncle Jon and Uncle Leo’s kinda fled the country. But Aunt Meg is still around and she’s trying her best to clean up the mess Leo left behind. But it’s going to take some work, so if you can do something to help out that process, that’d be great.

p.s. I know you managed to deliver on everything I asked for last year, and then some. It’s not your fault that somebody failed to execute. What I really want for Christmas are the building blocks and milestones that’ll enable webOS to succeed going forward in 2012.

Enyo. Aunt Meg wants to commit webOS to the open source community. She has a plan, and the first step in that plan is getting the Enyo application framework out into the world. Enyo has pretty great potential as a web-based framework, but that can’t happen until it’s open sourced.

Roadmap. Right after Enyo going open source is the rest of webOS. Without HP making hardware this year, it’s critically important that webOS be open sourced so all of the open source elves developers can get to work on improving it (alongside the work done by HP).

Hardware. I know, this is kind of a big one. But it’s also kind of an important one. Without hardware there aren’t going to be customers, and without customers there aren’t app sales, and without app sales the developers won’t make apps, and then you just have Meego/Moblin/Tinzen/Maemo. And I’d rather have a lump of coal than that future.

Red Ryder BB Gun. No reason.

Sincerely,
Derek

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18 Comments

^ if only. So tired of this bs. Webos deserves so much better than what it is getting. :-(

edit: you are not late. Xmas is tomorrow. Hp on the other hand are late... Unless they push 305 (bug free) to make things at least somewhat better, but of course they won't. And the calendar will still lag and be almost unusable. *sigh*

I have a Red Ryder BB Gun its a thing of beauty! :D

you are not late.

MAKE IT SO !

You're gonna shoot your eye out.

You beat me to it!

Yes, please Santa!

Derek, Keep asking

I did some digging, Found your Christmas List from Last year, among other things, you asked for "There’s so much more that the Touchstone tech could do... I’m kind of digging a Touchstone car charger with bluetooth for speakerphone/music (and a line out to my car, if you can swing it)."

Seems Like someone Did listen, HP just killed it before it made it out the door. We did see at least one prototype (if not for the car, but desktop).

Who knows what will happen, Hope is kind of weaning though.

Derek "Beangeary" Kessler and the Red Ryder BB Gun. Quelle surprise!

:-D

I saw a Red Ryder BB Gun for sale today at a Northern Tool and Supply Store! I almost bought it for myself, uh, my daughter?

HP really need to help (officially or unofficially) get webOS running on commodity Android hardware, then the community can run with it.

Alternatively if a Chinese manufacturer builds an ecosystem around webOS we could see rapid development and easy porting.

yup and yup.
There are a few too late to android party who might want to try with HP's help with webOS.
Some VERY unlikely thoughts about webOS and RIM. http://tinyurl.com/6qv46p6

Can I fly with you in your Rocket Ship?

AMEN.

Ba Hum Bug at this Christmas.

"Hardware. I know, this is kind of a big one. But it’s also kind of an important one. Without hardware there aren’t going to be customers, and without customers there aren’t app sales, and without app sales the developers won’t make apps, and then you just have Meego/Moblin/Tinzen/Maemo. And I’d rather have a lump of coal than that future."

...that's the main issue within your commercial mobile space where everything's is driven by sale of self-contained "(cr)apps". No app sales, no base.

In the FOSS world, the software is already there. Yes, even usable GPS / navigation applications. Someone just needs to port what is needed and clean it up a bit for a (new) platform. But that wasn't happening for you guys until now. You had to rely that some dev company took enough interest in a platform to enable you to purchase that stupid $2.99 game that you so crave for. It's almost the same for webOS as it is for (crippled) Android - every one 'cooks his own soup' instead of leveraging open standards.

And look what the situation is; there's not even a _decent_ video player for the TP. (And i don't count TouchPlayer as 'decent', let alone that **** like KalemSoft player that needs it's own streaming server application instead of relying on standards.) Uh, of course it needs his own server app, because DLNA is almost impossible with the current state of the OS, at least in regard to video streaming.

Same with remote desktop control, Bluetooth HID supports seems unheard of - "Home Control" too needs, of course, it's own server application on the desktop.

It almost feels as if fixing the foundations (codec/media splitter/GStreamer, messaging etc.) support in a proper way seems like evil communism to you, because the work then can't be sold in the store. Nobody can live from just porting f.e. Pidgin for the public, or bettering Synergy, for this reason it has to be your own app.

Even the (fine) move by HP to open-source webOS doesn't help in that situation then -> even with all the OSS packages that palm/HP provided already there wasn't that much achieved beside custom kernels.

Maybe some good guys from the FOSS world starts to port Qt (or even Gtk+for that matter, with a decent touch-friendly theme), so that webOS' Linux base can be fully leveraged, instead of waiting for a crappy app fix from commercial developers.

(And first effort should be to get rid of that Luna mess. Compiled-in VKB layouts and other issues, oh boy)

Huh?