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Analyst says Facebook should get in on the webOS game 95

by Tim Stiffler-Dean Thu, 15 Sep 2011 9:36 pm EDT

It's a bid that would be unusual, to say the least, but an analyst from Jeffries & Co, Peter Misek, has come to the conclusion that HP should at least license out webOS to Facebook, if not sell the OS outright. With the company's recent push into creating the "Facebook Phone" using Android, gaining heavy integration with Skype for VoIP and video calling access with friends, and reinventing their Messaging to bring all of your conversations with all of your connections to one place (similar to how webOS Synergy brings your IM chats and SMS together), Misek says that Facebook might stand the most to gain from an OS purchase, with webOS being at the top of that list.

The reasons why Facebook should consider this, if any company would, is all centered around the cloud capabilities and integration with webOS devices. Facebook could use a modified webOS Synergy to make getting onto the social giant's network so much easier (and nicer) than even the HTC Status currently allows, and webOS still has a lot of room for growth. Google+ will soon be perfectly integrated with every single Android device out there on the market. Meanwhile, what does Facebook have to continue their growth in that area?

In some ways, webOS has never really defined itself; Is it a gaming platform? The best OS for business users? A Social Networking mega-OS? The most developer-friendly ecosystem? It has a good grasp of all of these concepts, but none of them have really struck as the main selling point of webOS, and that has been a problem since early 2009 (you can't sell the concept of  "multitasking", as we've seen). Facebook, on the other hand, could possibly give it a single purpose that could be easily sold to the masses. 

When talking about hardware, Facebook already has built a relationship with HTC and INQ Mobile, so there would be no problem actually getting the devices made if it came to that point. And in fact, HTC might be more interested in working with webOS on their devices after Google's recent purchase of Motorola Mobility. Plus, Misek believes that carriers want a third smartphone ecosystem to raise the bar of competition and sales (he apparently doesn't think that Windows Phone or RIMM have what it would take to be that third major OS).

With all of the pieces already firmly in place, it looks like Facebook could stand to gain a lot from using webOS to become more integrated with the every-day lives of their users as it happens, and not just the re-telling of stories later on when they sit down at a computer. 

We aren't sure what we think of this idea yet, with all of the concerns lately about Facebook privacy and their constant battles with other companies it would be a tricky situation for many of our users who have vowed to never use Facebook again. But if there was one company that could stand to grow from pushing further into the mboile market, it is Facebook. Since that is also one of the only companies that could promote webOS to more than 750 Million users worldwide instantly, it might not be a bad option for HP to look into, either.

HP might not want to sell webOS to Facebook as Misek believes they should, but licensing? Now that could work. Normally we like to scoff at analysts with their conflicting reports about the mobile market, but somehow we hope that something happens with this concept. Because, you know, something definitely needs to happen, and soon.

Source: eWeek.com, Business Insider; Thanks, sf_basilix!

95 Comments

Not. Going. To. Happen.

Next article sprint should buy webOS!

No! Myspace!

I heard a rumor that precentral.net is buying webOS.

Facebook hits "Like" button webOS fan page ... speculation ensues.... Guy who uses facebook likes webOS and facebook.... Peanut butter meets Chocolate! YAY!

Microsoft invests in Facebook. This will never happen.

I hope that's sarcasm, because Microsoft invested $240 million in Facebook in 2007.

And they own nearly 2% of the company.

OMG 2%. Microsoft also works with Apple to make an Office Suite for Mac. They're not above working with the competition if they can make money doing it.

According to you, owning 1.3 Billion dollars of a company means nothing and Microsoft shouldn't care about maintaining whatever market share it has over WebOS.

I think that it could work, facebook is needing to expand. WebOS is a great way of doing that

I heard that Sears may be interested in buying webOS. I'm eagerly awaiting a PreCentral article analyzing that.

If this happens, webOS will become a gayOS

wtf?

Another day, another "company should/ looking to buy WebOS" repost.

Tomorrow expect LG, Haweui, Wintec, Archos, Iriver, Baidu, Dell, Texas Instruments, or random foreign company rumor/ speculation article.

Burger King, NASA...

Your aunt, my grandpa, the janitor's dog...

The janitors dog understands touch to share and all its applications at least

The Simpsons should buy webOS. They're the longest running cartoon in TV history and they haven't got their own OS yet!

Jesus, how many of these articles about companies that are never gonna buy webOS are we going to see?!?

how may companies are in the s&p 500? how many didn't even have an ipo?

Yeah thats it!

Jesus should buy it... or wasn't that what you meant? :)

I don't wnat to own a facebook branded phone, thank you.

So now webOS isn't even going to be licensed out to a hardware manufacturer, but a software/website company?? And they'll re-license it out to a hardware company?? Come on.

This

actually after facebook has a go around of **** the pooch they will licence it out to webos internals.

Then tomorrow, another analyst, or Facebook itself will come out and deny this is a remote possibility.

Then, another article, on say.....Sony? Or, to keep in the spirt of this article, Mozilla (another company that does software only - at least then the editors can claim that WebOS and B2G have something in common, even though there isn't a chance in **** )?

lol

Actually Mozilla isn't that far-fetched as it might seem to you. After all the http://mozphone.com/ site exists, although it is quiet, and judging from the screens they use in their examples WebOS would be a major step up on the software side.

Mozilla might just be the next company that should be looking into buying WebOS.

"Actually Mozilla isn't that far-fetched as it might seem to you."

...see, Producer? It would be now "a major step forward" for them, and it "makes sense" :)

This site is getting funnier every day. Although it is quite politically incorrect to laugh at the funeral, but if you have two functioning braincels, what else can you do after reading these "potential buyer rumors", and some "it makes a perfect sense" commenters??

Does Mozilla even have enough money to buy Palm/WebOS?

It would be great though... far better than Facebook or HTC if you ask me.

They have their own OS in development: http://www.pcworld.com/article/236564/mozillas_boot_to_gecko_a_mobile_os...

And the whole fact that webOS is built on Webkit and NOT Mozilla's Gecko engine means...again, no. Not going to happen.

You know who should buy WebOS? Palm.. Take it back and make phones without keyboards like apple and android that are selling like crazy because only 2 people like hardware keyboards.

Or better yet, open source it. Google could be so pissed off.

I actually like the physical keyboard, as it allow me to be an active writer on the phone without getting a massive amount of fingerprints on the screen. I am in no doubt the physical keyboard will also afford me to type faster(when I get used to the AZERTY setup)

...I've answered SO many times that complaint about vertical slider...

The ONLY disadvantage that vertical slider has versus otherwise equally specified/built slab phone, would be increased thickness. Which, in case of "pebble" design of Pre phones, is hardly perceptible, in real life. I do have my Galaxy S2, a razor-thin slab, that feels awfull to hold, feels awfull to keep in your posket. I also do have HTC Desire S, which despited being just that little bit smaller and thicker, feels beautifull to hold in your hand & pocket. Rounded design does the trick.

Other than added thickness, it is only ADVANTAGES, all the way down. Better typing experience, added functionality, touch-typing, call assignement to press-and-hold.

Of course, I do agree that Slabs are selling great currently, but for all the different reasons, that you think, and for all the different reasons, that HPalm's failed. For a starter, Apple doesn't make an iOS slider. Secondly, there are NO high-end Android sliders out there. So, when you want a high-end phone, there aren't exactly too many options for you to buy one. Like in, you know, NONE options at all. So I do not know how you can drw your conclusions on slider FF, if there just aren't any really high-end sliders out there, that could coompete with slabs. I'd buy high end Android portrait slider in an instant, if I only could.

It wasn't slider FF that has failed, it wasn't webOS that has failed.

It is just like saying that Ferrari does not sell million cars a year, because they are only selling red ones, => ergo "people do not like red cars, and that is why Ferrari failed to mass-sell them". You are just mistaking causes and effects here.

I also think that for the sake of market recognition that slabs are getting, HPalm should've started with high-end slab in the first half of this year, followed by Pre 3 as a mainstream business device, followed by TouchPad, priced appropriately to it's mediocre specification, and then eventually, followed by funny little Veer, at the very last, if they do not have anything more important to do. And all these should've been as "hard" a launches as humanly possible, instead of a pathetic "soft" ones.

It was crappy hardware quality, Pre-mature releases and wrong order of hardware release, and woefully inadequate marketing. And too little, too late, feeble attempts from HP.

It was not OS failing, which is unequivocally acclaimed as a "great/best mobile OS out there, let down by poor quality and specification hardware, and lack of apps", by anyone who has a clue about that space. It was NOT the vertical slider form factor failing, only it's crappy & falling apart implementation.

Howgh.

I totally agree. I would've jumped ship to the iPhone long before the Pre ever existed if it had a keyboard. I have a Pre2 and a Photon (Primarily because a webOS Slingplayer app never materialized) and even with Swype, I still have a much easier time with the physical keyboard. I do like being able to 'say' text messages and have been pretty impressed with the voice transcription on the Photon and would love to see that come to webOS someday. Maybe I don't have the finger dexterity that the millions of people who love these slabs have, but I am a surgeon, so I'm guessing my dexterity isn't too far below average. I will never understand why the Pre3 wasn't released before the TP & Veer. If I ever run into Todd Bradley, Jon Rubenstein, or Stephen DeWitt in the street I will make damn sure to find out.

"(...)and even with Swype, I still have a much easier time with the physical keyboard"
exactly!

This just in! I'm watching my dog right now in deep thought about how he will make his bid for webos.

...or he's dreaming about chasing a squirrel.

Enough with the freaking rumors!!!!

She's dead Jim! Let her go!

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Dammit Jim ... I`m a doctor .. not a magician.
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Awww, I was hoping Derek or Tim would've photoshopped the logo to "FacePalm"

Wasn't at my computer at the time, had to settle with this. :/

Well, tomorrow maybe.

...well face-palm, as in body parts? ...as, maybe, something like a palm, slapping someone in the face? As a wake up, or maybe a sober up gesture symbol???

That would be very much appropriate, for the article (or should I say "the series" here)!

I love how webOS, the mobile OS that wasn't really a master of anything in any market is now somehow the perfect jack of all trades.

Want a solution for your enterprise OS? Use webOS!

Want an OS for social networking? Use webOS!

Actually it works quite nice as both on the Pre3

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The Home Shopping Channel should buy it - cause they`re always out of them anyways (and they really know how to f*"k with their clients).
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Just A Canadian perspective

Haha Dion had this idea first. Credit where credit is due: http://almaer.com/blog/facebook-webos-playing-to-win and wow, I'm so not a Facebook fan... /twitch

The jokes are just writing themselves at this point. Maybe Wendy's next? They make quick food that is meant to be mobile and THEY don't own an OS.

Ooops....I just gave Tim another rumor to write an article on.

I heard a small retirement community in Florida is interested in buying WebOS. Dickie Dunn said it, it's gotta be true!! :)

I think I'd like to see Nintendo get ahold of webOS. With webOS having pushed it's gaming capabilities long ago, it would help Nintendo get into phone business with a gaming phone.

And they could do a sideways slider with two touch screens with the bottom screen switchable between gaming controls & an onscreen keyboard.

Seriously precentral, just stop it.

Slow news month.

Slow news year.

Slow news the rest of Precentral's life.

I love all these trolling android fans on Precentral now, saying how ridiculous it is to consider that Facebook, or Qualcomm, or HTC would buy or license WebOS and blaming the Precentral writers - who are reporting on stories from elsewhere on the web. As if these posters know more than the analysts at these investment houses . . . or more than someone like Dion, who wrote about how Facebook would be a great fit for WebOS and knows more about the industry than anyone posting on this board, by far . . .
Everyone forgets that WebOS was sold once before - after being called a complete failure, and no one even thought HP was a possible purchaser - and at the time it was a dream come true. Until the CEO got fired and a new HP board chairman from Oracle and a new CEO from SAP got hired, and wanted to get rid of all consumer hardware.
HP clearly has no idea what they want to do right now. They are a rudderless ship. Leo has been ordered to quit giving any media interviews by the board - he has been pulled from all media events, and he is hanging by a thread right now as large HP investors are furious with him. Ray Lane is now doing nothing but traveling around the world trying to make these people happy and giving media interviews trying to get positive coverage for HP.
We know that last time, Apple, HTC, Google, HP, and Lenovo all talked to Palm about purchasing WebOS . . . and maybe more. There are lots of very smart engineers and users out there that recognize that WebOS is great. Heck, no less than Anand Lal Shimpi said that without the bugs in his tested 3.0 and lag, then the Touchpad would be his favorite tablet - bar none. This on a first generation product rushed to the marketplace. Very smart people recognize that WebOS is great, perhaps the best mobile OS in the world today - can't see that it will be allowed to die. Someone will want it I suspect - at least a licensee. I don't care if it is kyocera - just give me a phone.
If Facebook buys it/licenses it, watch out. They have great engineers and could change the game.

Of course, that's always the catch with WebOS:

If they...

- ever fix the lag
- ever fix the bugs
- put it on great hardware
- release it from a company with enough money
- release it from a company with enough vision
- ....or both
- get developers onboard
- get an ecosystem
- train carrier reps to understand and love it

etc., etc., etc......if these stars can magically align, it would be the bestest OS ever.

But there's always an excuse as to why that never comes to pass.

It's the never the fault of WebOS itself. It's the bad companies, mean carriers, brainwashed Apple or Android fans....basically, everybody always beats up WebOS and takes its lunch money. No fair.

Nailed it!

Reminds me of that long list of "Just wait until..." that webOS fans have kept updating over the last couple of years or so.

Latest entry: Just wait until someone buys or license webOS.

Looking forward to the next entry.

...guys, do you seriously, honestly prefer Android experience, or iOS experience, over webOS one?

Because I can honestly tell, I don't. I use Android daily (have two phones and a rooted Nook Color), I've passed on iOS after extensive testing (well it didn't had to be too extensive, in honest, this OS is a nice&shiny little thing for retards, that is probably why it sells so well, there's so many of them out there), and the only advantage IMHO it has over webOS, is the high quality and availability of the applications, and the high quality and variety of hardware.

Which I tend to agree, that all in all, more than pays up for a crippled OS experience, BUT: in terms of OS (I repeat: OS) experience, there's no contest. Android is sooooo retarded in comparison, it just screams "I was designed by nerds, for nerds", everywhere.

So, I do not really understand nor agree with your constant moaning over webOS ITSELF, as such a bad thing. Nor, in fact, does any technical writer I've had a chance to read, not only here, but anywhere in the blogosphere, you must be pretty lonely voice stating that webOS itself is such a crappy and bad piece of work.

Actually, these so-called "excuses" that you have listed, are the exact ones that are brought to the table by these wery same technical writers/testers/bloggers, as "explanations", why they cannot recommend particular webOS product, or would recommend to wait until some/most of them were resolved, before making a jump to webOS.

SO, maybe, just maybe, these "excuses" as you call them, are actually a genuine and valid REASONS for a webOS failure. Because surely, there has to be some reasons, right?

Just saying.

But that's just it....if two companies, several handsets and a tablet, countless hundreds of millions/billions of dollars spent, and multiple global ad campaigns can't make this a viable product that can be sold profitably and interest developers.....what can?

You say that the "only" advantages iOS and Android have are the quality/quantity of applications and the high quality and variety of hardware. Uh, those are pretty much the only things most consumers care about.

The WebOS "experience" is one of one step forward, and two steps back.

I love the card app switching UI - one step forward.
...but native apps remain threadbare, and critical ones like Quick Office and the video recording app remain glitchy/buggy - two steps back.

I love having a Web-based OS that syncs/synergizes well with Facebook, Twitter, etc. - one step forward
...but it is frustrating having a buggy browser with only a handful of the alternatives that leading platforms have, and Flash implementation that is half-done and will likely never be updated - two steps back.

This OS is largely where it began in 2009, which is inexcusable given the progress competitors have during this time.

You can most certainly cite dunderheaded moves by both Palm and HP that hobbled WebOS' chances at success, but you could say the same for any competitor. Apple priced the iPhone too high and kept it on an exclusive carrier for way too long. Google still can't deliver timely handset updates across handsets and carriers, and launched Honeycomb with no app support and even less advertising. But the quality and momentum of those platforms were too massive to allow this to cripple them. If WebOS couldn't overcome its respective challenges, then maybe it wasn't as great as it seemed to be and deserves to be retired. It was given every possible chance, and it blew all of them.

In general, I do agree with you, with the exceptions:
" Apple priced the iPhone too high and kept it on an exclusive carrier for way too long."
..they were redefining the market with the iPhone, and after succeeding in this, they were a monopoly, so they could price it as high as they wanted, and do whatever they liked with it - they still owned the market.

"Google still can't deliver timely handset updates across handsets and carriers"
...yeah but by and large, anyone who cares (tinkering types of users", can do it themselves, by rooting/custom roms & distributions

"and launched Honeycomb with no app support and even less advertising."
...because it is a temporary patch for a tablet space, a patch that will be integrated back with the mainstream Android release with Ice Cream Sandwich, when phone/tablet forks will be merged.

"But the quality and momentum of those platforms were too massive to allow this to cripple them. If WebOS couldn't overcome its respective challenges, then maybe it wasn't as great as it seemed to be and deserves to be retired. It was given every possible chance, and it blew all of them."
I do not agree. "Quality" and "Android" doesn't go in one sentence (unless we are talking about hardware quality, or applications quality, but it has nothing to do with Android, and all to do with OEMs and developer adoption). HP didn't give it ANY chances, since taking over Palm, they were killing it successively with every marketing flop, with every bad decision taken and publicized.

It took "Droid does" campaign (oh, wait, wasn't it damned "slider" form factor, and horizontal one, to boot - doesn't seem to weaken it at the time, does it), to put Android on the map. Wher is your webOS equivalent campaign?? Manny Pacayo (who the **** is he, was my first thought), funny english guy, and this whatshername teenage starlet? And how many of them have you seen - I was for two weeks in US in the end of July, I have seen ONE TouchPad TV advert in that time. I cannot count how many iPAd/iPhone adverts I have seen during that time. I haven't seen ANY SINGLE ONE TouchPAd's TV advert in Ireland, nor in UK, where I live.

Examples could be multiplied ad infinitum. webOS has not failed. It's hardware divisions, it's management, it's developer support (lack of critically important APIs) & relations, and it's marketing have killed it, surely as ****

It was a murder :)

Call it murder, sabotage, whatever. The thing failed. Does that mean that everything about it was bad? Nope. But it failed and no matter how much to try to analyze/rationalize it...it simply didn't fly...it failed.

If "failed" is too harsh of a way of putting it, let's just agree that it had "slower than expected consumer adoption" and leave it at that.

oh yeah, no doubts that the whole venture has failed, crumbled, died whatever anyone want to call it. I can't see it rising from the ashes anymore, that's just unrealistic.

I only do not agree with specific points, of WHY it has failed in the marketplace, and some important things that are posted as the reasons here, clearly are not the real reasons behind the failure.

100% agree. Precentral.net should be renamed Caveatcentral.net because every hopeful assertion about webOS comes with a caveat - usually one that is never going to happen. HP will do great in the smartphone market if they can produce a super phone that is much better than the iPhone. [snicker]

Let's see... RIM only shipped 200,000 Playbooks last quarter, down from 500,000 the quarter before. They have $754 million more in inventory on its hands than at the beginning of its fiscal year six months earlier. That does not include units that are piling up at retailers.

Sharp just announced that they are discontinuing two of their three tablet lines.

So, now is the time to get into the second-rate tablet game?

...in the meantime, Asus is ramping up production of their Transformer Honeycomb tablet, being priced very reasonably, having a physical keyboard dock, and having a good build quality and long & high quality spec and component sheet.

So, is this the time to get into realistically-priced tablet game? Game that has been so dramatically missed by HP?

Next in line, is a Fusion Garage's android-kernel based, extremely creatively designed UI, "Grid" tablet, being reduced in price by $200, before even getting released, versus earlier rumors. Something that HP had failed to do with TP, to such a dramatic results.

So, is this the time to get into realistically-priced tablet game, again?

I don't think posters are suddenly android trolls. It's just that people are so burned out from the webOS drama.
I don't think many smartphone companies have the courage to buy an os now esp since they're already windows or android. Windows is already the backup in case google gives all the advantages to motorola.
The only licensee or purchaser that made sense to me was Amazon. They don't care about thousands of apps, they only want amazon stuff and there are already amazon compatible webOS apps and amazon doesn't need advertisement. Amazon fans don't care what runs their new kindle device. Too bad all rumors point to a android device.
So barring that, the only other options I see is HP reverses course and kicks CEO out and keeps webOS or gives webOS to PSG.
Facebook has tons of money and probably does want to block googles' moves with android phones but buying an OS is very expensive. Licensing is possible but how many licensees are needed before webOS can support its operations with those licensing fees? Those fees are limited by the disrupting fact that Android is very low cost/free (if you don't get sued that is)

I love all these webOS fanboys who refuse to see the truth.

"As if these posters know more than the analysts at these investment houses . . . or more than someone like Dion, who wrote about how Facebook would be a great fit for WebOS and knows more about the industry than anyone posting on this board, by far"

guess what, I've been bashed for criticizing HP in their retarded "strategy" and spactic "execution" all year round, with so many posters here playing the very same card as you do: "geez, you'd think that HP, the biggest PC manufacturer company in the whole world, would know better than some armchair analysts, sheeesh"

Turns out, they haven't. Turns out, that logic and reasoning is still somehow more accurate than being "biggest". Biggest companies have folded in the past, and they will in the future.

And "analyst in the investments houses"... huh, huh. Don't even start, before you live long enough to learn that they are just people like you and me, and if they are talking nonsense, well, they are talking nonsense. And it happens surprisingly often.

You'd be better off trusting logic, common sense and your own judgement. Or not, it depends. I certainly am.

Please stop. No more rumors. Simply news, facts.
We love webOS and all, but this is making "us" look pathetic.

They must keep posting these stupid bid rumors for 2 reasons. First, eventually they will get it right. Second, they need to justify all the extra advertising they are doing.

yawn.
move on, nothing to see here.

p.s. Won't ever buy a facebook product. Seriously.

This just in.. 4chan would make a great home for webOS... discuss!

Sorry guys, but half you sound like your at the track betting on the horse with the broke leg... WebOS is good at a few things, but the fact that its good at a few things is the biggest hindrance from being great. Look... If I can't even rename a tab in my app launcher somethings gotta give.... The OS is so restrictive with the users ability to modify... I wish you the best WebOS... But seriously you have been sold once and fired once... Its maybe time to realize its time to retire.

If you mean the place you find Applications, what WebOS calls the Launcher, the renaming can be done quite easily by launching the Launcher menu(found at the top left corner).

This will never happen - Facebook are in bed with Microsoft, even more so after Google started to compete ferociously with G+.

The actual Facebook phone (if there ever is one) would most probably be running on Win Phone OS - those Android phones were just co-branded HTC handsets with token integration.

Facebook would really need to convince themselves that they really needed to own and control their own OS before they would consider webOS - and even then why should they (unless HP give it away)? MS will be most accomodating I expect, and if not they can just branch stock Android like Amazon are doing. They certainly won't pay for it.

If that that is going to happen, I'm done with webOS. Period.

I'm still avoiding facecrap, where ever I can and not for the love for webOS I'm going to join it.

...unfortunately, you ARE done with webOS, and there's nothing you can do about it, because it is dead.

At least I have two webOS devices which do their job quite nicely - without facebook. Maybe there will be no new devices, maybe not. As I said, if such _new_ devices will brought to us by facepalm, I'm not going to buy them.

This is getting to BGR level...with random analyst comments and "rumors" that shouldn't even be taken as rumors.

oh, and by the way...

precentral pretty please, with tons of cherries on top....

could you just stop it? I don't mind looking stupid in the eyes from otherOS fanbois, but I don't want to feel stupid for reading more of those rumours that lead to absolutely nowhere.

Imagine doing somethin useful instead. Try to get some decent tutorials online.

Yahoo is the one loosing market share to Google, so maybe Yahoo, not Facebook, should try to buy or license webOS. Google has Android to drive its mobile connectivity and Yahoo could do the same with webOS. If Yahoo gave away webOS to manufactures the way Google gives away Android (minus the Microsoft royalties), they could capitalize in the webOS synergy to give their mail, calendar and search engine a home in the mobile market and invite Facebook and Twitter along for the ride.

I think Yahoo has been owned by Microsoft since 2010... I am pretty sure I read that.

Precentral... serious, this is getting sad. Seeing our favorite OS unceremoniously dropped was sad enough, but seeing you guys grasping at the smallest straws... man.

Wow, The man is just reporting on a story about webos. That's what they do here, report on stories about all things webos and editorialize. I apprecite coming here to see what the buzz is. If you don't want to read an article, don't read it.

All things WebOS.... no matter how far-fetched, or unlikely? No matter how vague or non existant the sources are? No matter if its fact, rumor, or completely fabricated?

Is this what we are to expect now for the months to come? Since more than likely there wont be much "official" news regarding WebOS for the rest of the year?

Following your logic, if you don't like the comments, don't read them.

"Wow, The man is just reporting on a story about webos"

Likewise, I am only commenting on how unrealistic and wilder & wilder these stories became, and if you don't want to read the comments, don't read them.

...guys, do you seriously, honestly prefer Android experience, or iOS experience, over webOS one?

Because I can honestly tell, I don't. I use Android daily (have two phones and a rooted Nook Color), I've passed on iOS after extensive testing (well it didn't had to be too extensive, in honest, this OS is a nice&shiny little thing for retards, that is probably why it sells so well, there's so many of them out there), and the only advantage IMHO it has over webOS, is the high quality and availability of the applications, and the high quality and variety of hardware.

Which I tend to agree, that all in all, more than pays up for a crippled OS experience, BUT: in terms of OS (I repeat: OS) experience, there's no contest. Android is sooooo retarded in comparison, it just screams "I was designed by nerds, for nerds", everywhere.

So, I do not really understand nor agree with your constant moaning over webOS ITSELF, as such a bad thing. Nor, in fact, does any technical writer I've had a chance to read, not only here, but anywhere in the blogosphere, you must be pretty lonely voice stating that webOS itself is such a crappy and bad piece of work.

Actually, these so-called "excuses" that you have listed, are the exact ones that are brought to the table by these wery same technical writers/testers/bloggers, as "explanations", why they cannot recommend particular webOS product, or would recommend to wait until some/most of them were resolved, before making a jump to webOS.

SO, maybe, just maybe, these "excuses" as you call them, are actually a genuine and valid REASONS for a webOS failure. Because surely, there has to be some reasons, right?

Just saying.

Adding another item to my list of stupid ideas I've heard from analysts on Wall Street.

Facebook to buy Palm from HP. New subsidiary to be called FacePalm.

I would not recommend WebOS to ANYONE if it were a Facebook OS. Terrible idea.

...well, I don't have issues recommending it to anyone, IF that happened, IF they pulled something good quality out of it, IF they fixed issues with developer relationships, IF they managed to get high quality hardware vendor onboard, IF they managed to sell the message that they indeed have a vision behind it - like, I don't give a phukk if the next webOS phone, manufactured by HTC, was to boast Kellogs Crispies logo on it, if the above things were fixed.

But neither will happen, so it is just an academic discussion.

I didn't mind social discourse when it actually involved HP and webOS's current state, but now the geeks are just bitter little irritants.

For the past few weeks, we have been hearing about he potential purchasers for webOS such as Samsung, HTC, Qualcomm, and now, Facebook. I believe many people includes me are starting to feel tiring about hearing these kind of news every once in awhile. However, when Facebook's name was brought up today, it does make me feel more interested. As the article has mentioned, Google+ has been a huge success and it might be the most eligible challenger to the social network giant, so what kind of strategy does Facebook have in mind when Google is clearly stepping into Facebook's kingdom, and might have a huge chance to overthrow its crown?

I'm wondering why it is that if an industry giant is faced with competition, said giant automatically needs webOS to come to their rescue.

HP needs to be more like Apple...better get webOS.
Samsung needs a edge due to Googorola...better get webOS.
HTC...see Samsung...better get webOS.
Qualcom needs a leg up on other chip makers...better get webOS.
Facebook is being challenged by Google+...better get webOS.

Really?

hp trashed palm and brethren... now it should go to fassbuuk to worsen the insult ...a shame is shameful...