Apotheker: webOS to be on every HP PC sold in 2012 53
HP CEO Leo Apotheker is leading a revolution of sorts inside the world’s largest tech company, and he’s starting by reversing the precedents set by his predecessor. If you’ll recall, ousted HP CEO Mark Hurd bumped up HP’s profits by cutting costs within the company and spending billions to acquiring other companies (excepting profitless Palm). Apotheker has a different plan, and it revolves around overhauling HP’s $41 billion Personal Systems Group and expanding HP’s enterprise software offerings. Apotheker came to HP from German software giant SAP, saying, “I happen to know something about software.”
When it comes to webOS, Apotheker is enthusiastic about its prospects for HP as a whole. He told BusinessWeek that HP’s plans are for every PC the ship starting next year to be able to run webOS in addition to Windows. That’s several million new webOS devices yearly, a benchmark Palm never managed to achieve. Apotheker didn’t let loose any details on how webOS will work on the PC, and we’re conflicted ourselves about how exactly it will run and/or be integrated. There’s plenty more, including discussion about HP’s slowing sales growth, enterprise software gaps, and more down at the link.
Source: BusinessWeek; Via: Engadget
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awesome!
Flash coming in Feb 2010.
WebOS 2 for no cash.
Products in weeks.
WebOS on all PCs.
4 balls, all outside, I'll take the walk.
but, we need the Pre 3 on Sprint. Now!
Hopefully we get faster product launch like promised.
I really have my doubts, but at least it's nice to see Leo speaking up and taking command.
So is this going to be "As cool as HP"?
Thats a bold statement, I hope it pans out. It can only be good for webOS in a software sense.
But how in the world are you going to have gestures on your moms 2 bit laptop from hp in 2012?
That means software built for a phone or a tablet wouldn't quite work as well? I don't know seems iffy. But more power to them.
nothing besides the phones will have a gesture area. they managed to make the TP without it :/
this guy is a windbag
Well as webOS 3.0 does not use a gesture area, I would imagine a PC would not need one either. Probably one of the main reasons they eliminated the need for gestures in 3.0.
Maybe gesture on the touch pad or mouse?
Exactly! The touchpads on all of my laptops support multi-touch gestures. WHY is HP going backward and removing what others are adding?
The gesture's being removed (with the gesture area gone) are just swipe back and swipe up for minimize.
Two finger zoom and other gestures would still work.
It seems like a good idea when you consider the big picture, you never want you software to be dependent on specific hardware (like an area off screen for gestures) if you want to be truly universal.
How about swipe up to get to the app launcher, swipe forward, and long swipe to switch apps?
webOS doesn't need to be "truly universal" because HP has no plans to license it to hardware manufacturers (as far as we know).
I guess that is one way to say you have more market share. I'd be interested to see how it goes, probably try it since I love WebOS, but not sure it it will be a success.
SWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEET!!!!!!
All Hail WebOS!!!
uhh....
I mean...
I'm really damn happy about this!!!!
I wouldn't mind an implementation a la ASUS Express Gate.
except that express gate boots in 8 seconds and webOS well . . . it would just be faster to boot windows
Not with the processing power of a PC. I would expect WebOS to boot much faster on a PC
I believe that s@!$ when I see it!
More bloatware for HP PC's! Yippie?
webOS is great on a tablet and phone but to install with all the extra **** HP already puts on a users PC is probably not the best idea IMO. Not that it matters to me - I already don't by HP computers because of the junk they put on!
This is great news for getting the webOS platform out en mass!!
And we should believe Apotheker, why?
Devs, is this having the effect HP wants it to have? Are you getting jazzed to make more apps for webOS?
time to switch from apple back to PC, in 2012. my macbook is starting to slow down and am seeing bugs in iphoto. and i miss windows, don't like the mac trackpad and keyboard and metal feel.
go hp cloud.
This is a bad idea. Its diluting WebOS into a commodity. HP should focus on making WebOS great on smartphones and tablets.
I disagree, I think the focus should be on creating an ecosystem. That is were a mobile OS can plateau if they haven't created a immersive ecosystem. Where no matter where you login you have your info, data and apps.
I hope this story is true, but I'm gonna take the "I'll believe it when I see it" approach here. Apotheker has already been caught talking out of his ****
This is a great idea, webOS connected devices and hundred of millions of devices running webOS, the sky is the limit for apps and possibilities. Move over other mobile softwares, webOS is moving on up!
I sit here and read all of the comments from most of you in this forum "windbag""balls outside""I need it now on Sprint or else". Unbelievable, the negitivity. Why not look at what is positive and be excited about what is happening. If it was all perfect , no fun and no learning but you have to have the courage to move forward. Most of you armchair quaterbacks would not have a clue. Thanks for letting me diatribe.
I suspect the implementation of webOS on HP's PC platform will be something like Dell's "Latitude ON" instant-on flash based access tools solution. An alternative quick-boot OS environment for accessing email, docs and web without having to boot the primary OS. There may be hooks to webOS in the primary OS, but seriously, what's the point in that on a PC?
HP already has "QuickWeb" which is very similar to "Latitude ON". They don't need webOS to create a quick boot environment.
Unless HP is going to replease QuickWeb with WebOS. I also believe that HP is going to report the UI on the TouchSmart all-in-ones with WebOS. It maybe easier to hook WebOS into Windows 8 which is slated to be released in 2012.
Thanks - I wasn't aware (we're a Dell shop here). But the question in my mind remains.. could HP be looking to webOS as a more feature-rich quick boot environment to replace QuickWeb?
QuickWeb is an "instant on" linux distro. WebOS is a linux distro that HP owns. Makes a lot of sense to just move to WebOS.
So, we get webOS on every device in the future but we can't find out what carriers the Pre3 will be on?
FAIL!!!!!
So, does this mean that you won't be able to edit Office docs on those PCs anymore?
Zing!
I call bullshit. WebOS won't evolve fast enough to be a fully fledged computer operating system.
Not to mention 2012 probably means late 2013 for HP.
I admire their ambition, but I wouldn't hold my breath.
Whatever man.. Actions speak louder than words that all Ima say.. smh
If it's like WindowsXP running in virtual mode under Windows 7, it would be a little useful in some situations, but probably not a major feature. If it is implemented in an imaginative way, like you bring your phone into the room and your phone apps are available, documents and pictures transfer (like itunes with the tether) and phone calls can be received on a webcam enabled system, then that might be pretty interesting. The trick is to make it seamless.
I think it's a bit disingenuous to say this adds "several million WebOS devices yearly".
1. Whatever enterprise desktops or laptops have this shipped on it will most likely have it wiped and replaced with a standard corporate WebOS-free image. Right now, I'm typing on a Core i5/Win 7-spec'd laptop that's running Windows XP with a ton of corporate security software and no install/individual privileges.
2. This is a benefit that is useless to several categories of apps like almost all games (Enyo or no, they aint scalable from a Veer to a 17-inch quad-core Wintel PC), augmented reality, camera apps and GPS reliant apps. You take those off the table, and you just removed a huge swath of the most popular iOS apps.
3. There's little incentive for people who don't already have a WebOS profile or WebOS tablets or phones to ever fire this up on their consumer PC.
Hp is adding webos to every PC to pump up it's sales! It's an extra advantage for it's customers over Apple! N it's better for webos cus if customers get use to webos on their laptops, then they gunna most likely would be more welling to buy the fone since they kno how owesome WebOS is in fact!
I'm all for it, but only if it replaces hps buggy crapware like quickplay. A few positives I see here: If it can boot independently from windows it seems reasonable to assume it'd be a pretty good power saver. Touch-to-share would be a huge feature. If they perfect the palm profile, it could be used as a free online backup for your computer as well as tablet and phone. Hell it could even contain the recovery software (yay for no more disk space wasted on a recovery partition or dvds to break/scratch/lose). Also HP isn't exactly new to touchscreens and other touch-intefaces.
As for getting it done: with something this big (ALL pcs) it shouldn't be hard to allocate the resources needed to do it right. The timetable seems a bit ambitious, but by the end of the year they should have some serious momentum with webos.
Time table? All he needs to say is "In the coming months". That about covers it.
What's the point of all the hating if you can't wait for a new phone or can't afford to get the lastest cause contract issues or even be positive at all just shut up. The keyboard quaterbacks or genuis which obvious are smarter than everyone. Should go buy a different phone or tablet & then know what your missing. Iam proud to be a part of this community loyal, smart & knowing what could be. But **** you baby &$$ people who have to cry bout $!++ kick rocks. We don't need you ! All & all stop wasting ur time being negetive ....
I think it is a potentially brilliant stroke or possibly a collosal failure. I think the point of WebOS on everything they sell is the possibility of multiple device synchronization/communication. Please forgive but I think the 'metal watch' concept actually makes a lot of sense. How many devices do you own? Maybe a phone, a tablet, a laptop, a netbook, or even a printer? Hmmm...would be nice if all of these devices were somehow interconnected. And further, if you are a developer your scale of reach becomes somewhat unprecedented. Now, for the collosal failure aspect, can HP manage something so big? And hasn't this already been tried? Either way, you have to play to win I guess.
More hp forced bloatware in the form of webOS... hope I can delete it off my computer if I choose to. I might just avoid hp computers all together.
haha I knew they were going to do this. Let us see how this goes, I'm very excited about it.
Isn't this the guy who said "we aren't going to announce products before they're ready to ship," right before HP announced new Pre products that wouldn't be ready for months?
Well, it looks like HP definitely kept the essentials of Palm in tact...talk out your %&^# and don't deliver.
So is WebOS gonna boot off the HDD or a special ROM on the MOBO?
Two things I want to see are:
Will Touchstone2 be compatible with PC and the touch to transfer facility? That would be cool!
Finall if they made it free I'd download it for my laptops.
Nick.
I think the idea is to encourage you to buy HP laptops.
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