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App sales skyrocket and developers join the game - webOS is NOT dead 82

by Tim Stiffler-Dean Sat, 13 Aug 2011 6:00 pm EDT


Due to the lackluster reviews from before the launch and the outstanding price-cuts that have arrived for the HP TouchPad in the last week; the word on the streets (or really just a few tech bloggers) is that not only is webOS dead, but not even HP's massive scale and deep pockets can revive it. Obviously, not everyone agrees with that sentiment, and neither will many of you once you look closely at the chart above.

Ian Beck, the developer of TapNote for webOS smartphones and the TouchPad, has allowed us to share a graph of his sales over the last year, and they reveal some very interesting points in the discussion on how well the TouchPad is doing. From any other month shown on the chart, the month of July (which was the month that the TouchPad was released) brought nearly 10 times more sales on average than all of the others. That's a single month, in one country, with a soft-launch of a device that received below average reviews (before the update), and still the sales of apps were through the roof.

After his sales actually dove for three months straight, and then picked up a bit when the HP Veer was released in May, the jump of sales that came in July is a sight for sore eyes. If you take a deeper look, you'll also notice that there are already more reviews for the TouchPad version of the app than the much more long-standing smartphone version of TapNote. What does all of this mean?

  1. People are buying the HP TouchPad (and the Veer, to a lesser degree).
  2. Those people are also buying apps.

With this being a look at just a single app for a single month immediately after the release of a major tablet device (and with an app catalog that could still see some major growth, allowing TapNote to be a big fish in a little pond), you can certainly say that the data is a bit skewed. But don't let that fool you - sales for many app developers, and not just Ian, are up a significant amount from previous months, and they only plan to go higher (especially with the $50 app catalog credit that HP is offering to customers). We can't argue with the facts - the TouchPad is not doing nearly as badly as some other bloggers would make it out to be.

For developers, consumers and investors alike, this should be a sign as to what is coming in the future. Sales are up for both devices and apps, which should bring a lot of incentive to developers who are looking at making the webOS platform their home. It will only be a matter of time before the word is spread and the cycle is started; once that happens, webOS will have secured a spot in the market as a major player in mobile devices.

If these stats mean webOS is dead, we'd love to see it really come alive. There is still a lot of room for improvement, but this is an encouraging direction to be heading.

Thanks, Ian!

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Excellent news. Gotta get to work understanding how to use a database with webOS.

[url=http://forums.precentral.net/webos-apps/291189-total-number-webos-apps.html]I started a thread[/url] asking if there was a way to tell how many apps there are and how many downloads there have been. If someone has this info please let us know.

When the Touchpad was released July 1, there were just over 300 Touchscreen apps. Now, a month later, there are more than 600. I believe Android 3.x still has less than 300 or not much more.

Where did you get that number?

I think the sales will only continue to shoot up during August. I recently released a paid app, and was actually surprised at how many downloads it was getting. Turns out that more than 50% of those downloads are from people using their $50 app credit. This app right now is outpacing another app I work on which has been in the catalog for a much longer time, but this app is an Enyo Touchpad app, while the other app is just a Mojo app.

The real question is whether these numbers will stay up, go down to a level that was higher than before, or go back down to what they were before the Touchpad release. Will people continue spending once they use up the $50 app credit?

is it a good app

"With this being a look at just a single app for a single month immediately after the release of a major tablet device ... you can certainly say that the data is a bit skewed. But don't let that fool you - sales for many app developers, and not just Ian, are up a significant amount from previous months"

You can attack the data, but don't attack the author.

Your grammar is what makes you look like a little kid. Which is much more embarrassing.

Maybe it's just me over-analyzing things, but this graph doesn't have units on the Y-axis, nor anything to give us an idea of scale. Therefore, how would we know if that huge climb after Touchpad release is in the tens, hundreds, or even thousands of downloads?

Of course, this could simply be the developer allowing us to share some perspective without giving away confidential information.

Either way, I'm glad things are seemingly looking up for WebOS. Hopefully HP will blow us away with some real numbers during an investor's conference call or something.

If you notice the three lowest months, the dots creep up very slowly. Even if there was only one sale in the month of January and two in February (I have been told is not the case), that small change there would give some idea of how many sales the month of July brought - which is a pretty good amount.

As it is, though, there were more than 3 sales between those two months, which means that the jump in July of 2011 was really (really) great.

No, you are not over-analyzing things. Without Y axis units, this data does not have any power.

Ian Beck did mention on his blog that he was not making a lot of money off webOS. I took that to mean he had poor sales. At a glance, it looks like his sales multiplied 8 times over, so it might still be low for an iOS/Android developer, or it might be high. Who knows.

However, sometimes trends are more important than raw numbers, but what is most important here is whether the trend will continue.

I might be more impressed with the news if HP had not just, effectively, bought $50 worth of apps for early buyers. Many will spend it on apps they are just curious about. I mean, they have to spend it on some apps. Let's see what things look like in a period when people are spending their own money. Bargain shoppers will not spend a lot on expensive apps.

Maybe I am reading the article wrong, but I think it is you. These numbers are only through July--PRIOR to the $50 HP gave early TouchPad buyers. That will come in next month's data as Tim indicates in the article. Basically, this data is, as you put it, "when people are spending their own money."

This data is for sales before the $50 credit was applied.

I stand corrected.

could show percent growth month vs previous month, that would be more interesting. That said, , I've seen Twitter comments from a few other devs seeing growth also, its clear consumers are buying and the change is dramatic over the small activity in the prior months

I think the missing scale here is important. Yes, it's great to see more people buying a webOS app, but whether it's 100 units vs. 2 or 10,000 vs. 200 makes a tremendous difference in how meaningful this is. Like it or not, until webOS is on millions of devices in active use, it won't represent a significant market for mainstream developers to pursue.

And, we know that the TouchPad met pent up demand among hardcore webOS fans who quite literally have had no other webOS device to purchase. The real question is, how many TouchPads have been sold to people outside the webOS community?

I know of three people that knew nothing about webOS and totally surprised me with TouchPad purchases in the last few weeks. webOS is clearly not getting enough credits on its own merits. Business users are very hungry for a real prodcutivity driven tablet and webOS seems to have that potential. It is why I purchased one. Three of my bests friends own iPads and one in particular is a total Apple fanatic, but all three had to admit (not under duress) the clear limitations of of their iPad 2's compared to the tPad, and one of them even went as far as say that his iPad is "a one dimensional media consumption device that is meant for consumers, not businessman". Wow!
No, webOS is NOT dead but HP could easily kill it if they 'tried' a little harder (with their bad business decisions regarding release dates and lack of information/hype).

The only problem with your theory is that if TouchPads were only sold to webOS diehards then presumably the prior sales of TapNote were to these people, who would then NOT need to buy TapNote for the TouchPad. It's pretty safe to assume that July's TapNote sales were to people who hadn't purchased it before.

While it's still possible that TouchPads were only sold to webOS faithful, it doesn't appear likely based off of sales of TapNote.

Wow. I...I just...wow.

Yes, I agree. The articles on here recently have really been reaching. Especially this one, with it's "NOT dead" childish headline and the meaningless graph with no y-axis numbers. That could show skyrocketing sales of 10 for all we know. Very amateurish journalism lately.

My hope is that Pivot will also attract developers. 1) # of apps sold increasing, 2) $50 giveaway by HP to early buyers of TouchPad to further increase apps sold, & 3) possibly being featured in Pivot would also be a nice selling point to attract developers, IMHO.

Without numbers the graph means nothing. COuld go from selling 10 to 20.

smh

If it averaged 10 before, the graph shows it would've gone up to 80-100 instead of just 20.

Without the July "jump", the best fit line is actually a downward slope (or at best flat). Need to see more than a temporary spike to take this a GREAT news. Still, I'm pulling for webOS. Would love to come back from Android if/when a new (flagship)phone is ever released.

I have to say the graph is at least encouraging. With the sales from the price cuts going up. Those numbers may well be going higher.

We won't know this for awhile though. I wonder if with the change in management in the Palm division. Did he see what was the awful state it was in and said Slash the prices and get them outta here. It would make sense if there was new product coming out and this way there would be WebOS in more hands. Eat the cost now for better sales later.

For all I know I could be in a WebOS haze on that one.:)

Take a platform that is dying (for now)

Ignore the fact that any new product will result in an initial surge of app purchases as new users, no matter how few, make initial purchases

Ignore similar surge in 2009 on sprint, later on Verizon, later on AT&T, later on global paid app notice, etc

Ignore the $50 credit that can only be redeemed in further app purchases

Ignore steady price cuts starting less than a month of the release of the new flagship product

Ignore the fact that carriers are turning their backs on the platform

Ignore marketshare numbers

Ignore mindshare numbers

Declare said platform as NOT dead (probably "time to celebrate")

...excellent reporting...slow clap.

So basically you want them to report on how it would've happened in a world where everything you're ignoring didn't happen? You want them to report your (sick?) webOS fantasy?

Apparently it's easier to ignore facts and perspective. Just chalk it up to me having a sick fantasy. Funny.

taharka, rsanchez didn't understand the point of your post. Then, you didn't catch his misunderstanding hah.

got any recent data of any of those? you mention a lot of numbers yet dont provide any. Got to remember the article explores a bump in webOS from July to present, so please include this to be able to compare, thanks. I want to learn from all, including you.

The data I have are readily available on the web but will be refuted here. They are ignored every quarter no matter how bad they get. This is why I didn't bother with links. But since you asked...here are some...

Recent Appcelerator survey: http://www.appcelerator.com/company/survey-results/mobile-developer-repo...

Developers surveyed tend to be cross-platform developers. Their intrest in webOS remains very low. In fact, when describing the 2% interest in webOS, the full report states:

"HP’s TouchPad isn’t registering with developers at the current time."

It also states:
"HP webOS tablet offerings like the TouchPad remains a classic Catch 22. While many consider HP’s webOS
platform as a potentially strong contender and especially with media tablets for the enterprise, developer
interest continues to be low even after launch due to lack of TouchPad market traction."

Here are the Nielsen numbers: http://blog.nielsen.com/nielsenwire/?p=28516

comScore: http://www.comscore.com/Press_Events/Press_Releases/2011/7/comScore_Repo...

First off thanks for the links, good reads.

First one is a survey, but on point since its from a developer forum, only point is that the third one is from May so not really relevant to the argument that touchpad sparked developer interest. The second one is really smartphone related too, but like I said good read, thanks for that. All in all, these graphs wont change due to TP even if it sells well, wonder if Nielsen or comScore do this same graphs for tablets. Hope TP does register an improvement in August to attract devs.

Like I said, the numbers have told the same story quarter after quarter, and every quarter people here say "just wait till next quarter". Read the title of this article again. Then put it into perspective. There is almost always a spike in app downloads when a new product is released. Unfortunately, it does not always translate into what this article makes it out to be...unless of course, you ignore the full picture.

So that's what has your panties in a bunch?

Why did you ignore the last bullet-point from your first link, which states that 18% of developers surveyed expressed interest in developing for the TouchPad and 12% remain interested in developing for the Pre/Pixi?

The Nielsen and Comscore links are pretty useless, as they are pre-TouchPad. I can concede that webOS on smartphones is stagnant and wouldn't expect much growth given HP's lack of effort there. The TouchPad release has the potential to change webOS's fate though.

I didn't ignore them. They are part of the "second tier" and the only thing they best are Symbian & MeeGo. In other words, those numbers represent the bottom of the active platforms.

From the report..."The second tier remains the same: Windows Phone (30%), BlackBerry phones (28%), BlackBerry Playbook (20%), HP TouchPad (18%), HP Palm Pre/Pixi (12%), Symbian (7%), and MeeGo (5%) rounding out the list."

I disagree that Nielsen and Comscore numbers are useless. They have been in agreement with webOS' story so far. I don't think they automatically become invalid because a new product is released. They become invalid when the trend changes.

Fact is more & more TouchPads are getting into folks' hands & it is inevitable these same people will spend money on some, especially god & useful, apps.

This trend can only increase with recent 'sale' followed by the $50 credit. HP needs to maintain momentum with new 4G then Go version & build it up into Christmas.

Anyone who thinks webOS is dead is just trying to make some headlines. I am not saying it will definitely be up there in say 10 years but for now, rather than dying, it is in a period of growth!

What this chart doesn't include: those of us who own a TouchPad and HAVEN'T bought this app.

Seeing a chart from Rovio would be a better indicator.

Or better yet - a chart from HP. ;)

Keep dreaming there. HP will release a sales chart the same day Apple announces their products by fax machine. Even if TouchPad is slamming iPad, HP will not release that much detail for tactical reasons. Don't want your competition knowing too much.

That's bullshit.

You really think if HP had even half the sales of the iPad they wouldn't brag about it?

It would be retarded not to , how else to capture developer's attention?

All I can say is that I was in Best Buy today and within 5 min of my arrival someone told the HP rep they wanted a 32 G version and also took home a bluetooth keyboard and touchstone. And I can also day that the traffic checking it out in this location is higher than what I've seen in the past. Things are trending up. I wonder what happens when the TouchPad Go gets released - in the coming months. ;)

I can also confirm July sales are awesome. WebOS sales are within 90% of my iOS sales. Considering the market share difference, that says a lot about webOS users willingness to buy apps and the crowded iOS AppStore.

So can a developer tell us why they don't webOS. I mean if developers are looking to make some solid money, why not develop for the platform. What is your hold up? I have 40.00 US American dollars to burn. If your app works and is reliable, I would buy it. Even just to try it. That's part of the fun of owning a tablet or smartphone.

I'd say it's growing. Why does every view have to be the end of something. I think it has only begun. Does anyone have the numbers for actual individual webOS devices that have made a purchase in the past month? I think it would be a good gauge of where the platform is globally.

I would think that HP is going to use every resource it can to support an international product. If they thought that webOS is eventually going to die why even make the effort to expand to other countries. That just makes no sense. HP is showing that they really have doubled down on webOS. There is a TouchPad out in more countries today than there was this same time last week. That's reach people. I think HP has been handling webOS fairly well so far. I would say I am a happy webOS customer, an HP customer. webOS is not without its faults and weaknesses, but HP finally has something that can integrate all their products. This is a win/win/win if they put forward the resources behind growing webOS. I don't think you launch a product/platform globally if that is not the plan. So really, is webOS closer to death than birth. Um no.

As far as mindshare. MILLIONS OF HITS!

I was thinking the same thing as you, heyguydaq but on a critical note, HP really must hype their upcoming product lines more. We should not have to totally rely on FCC approvals, rumors and conjecture for information on these products. HP really needs to expose the world to their upcoming devices in a more open way so that all will see what's in store - like those promo videos of the Pre³ back in February. I was sooo excited to see those videos - they were well done and invoked major gear lust. Now that phone is all but forgotten by all but the webOS faithful. People need to see it again - they need reminders and HP has the scale to remind us.

" but on a critical note, HP really must hype their upcoming product lines more"

yeah, but criritcally, they need something to hype about in the first place.

Sorry to say guys, but your arguments are nothing but a buy-ins into marketing gobbledygook, which says "we can do this we CAN do that". They only never deliver on these CANs, nor saying anything specific about HOW they would deliver on them

since the touchpad launched in july i'd naturally expect a spike in app sales then. Personally i don't think it proves anything other then that this developers app sales increased that month. If that jump was only 1000 app sales well that only would guarantee 1000 touchpads at best.

without real numbers it doesn't show much other then his app sales went up very well. could be 1 to 100. But that's not a ton of touchpads. by contrast it could be 100k to 7 million. that would be likely a huge number of touchpads. But other then showing an increase of some sort in one developers sales, which i'd expect, i don't think this "proves" anything one way or another, death or life.

graphs are graphs....

this is an awesome one

Based on the 6 lowest points on this graph, at minimum, we could infer that the 3 higher (pre July) points are between 15 and 20 sales.

The post Tpad numbers then would represent at a minimum approximately 80-90 sales.

If any of the points in the lowest months are representative of tens-of-sales, then this graph would be indicative of 1000's of sales post Tpad release.

Regardless,at even a minimum calculation, its data shows that there is significant interest in a product that should have been built into the Tpad and that the demand has increased significantly. I would consider that a motivator for other devs to step up their own WebOS apps development.

I was one of the ones who purchased at Touchpad for $300 at Staples. I am actually planning on returning it before my 14 days are up.

I like webOS, have been using it since 6/6/09, but its not the lack of apps that bothers me, its the execution.

While the Touchpad has some really redeeming qualities like its email client, its just too slow. Having to stare at a glowing card blinking is getting to hard to handle.

I thought two cores and a gig of ram would be more than enough to let webOS shine... I was wrong. Even with the Preware patches and the over-clocking, its just slow and lags. On a side note, I got a too many cards error today while browsing the web, why can't you view multiple pages in the same card via tabs, opening new cards seems to drain too much memory.

It's pretty obvious there's something wrong with your unit. I'm yet to see a GMC error on my TouchPad and I've been using A LOT. About the lag, also haven't seen any significant lag at all and I don't have Preware or any patches, just plain stock 3.0.2.
It sounds to me like you don't want to like the device, so yes, you should just go ahead and get your money back if you're truly that disappointed with it. If not HP will be more than happy to replace t I'm sure, I've heard good things in this site regarding customer cafe from HP.

I have managed to see a Too Many Cards error, but I did have a Flash page open at the time.

"While the Touchpad has some really redeeming qualities like its email client, its just too slow. Having to stare at a glowing card blinking is getting to hard to handle."

Taste. For me, only being able to have one app open and needing to use a task manager to switch would get hard to handle for me. webOS buys the ability to run 50 apps simultaneously with apps taking a bit longer to open.

Also, half the time Apps don't open simultaneously on an iPad but you'd have to 'stare at a turning wheel' while looking at a .png picture of the app. You're still waiting. But the wait seems not as bad, eh?

Ah...the old "android task manager/iOS isn't really as fast as you think" FUD.

I'm confused, why are you on a site about webOS if you like iOS/android so much? You've tried to spread your negativity the whole way down. That statement is not a FUD, its true. You are staring at a .png picture while you are waiting for the app to load up. Not sure what other facts you need? You could do us all a favor and tell every developer to do the same thing for webOS if you don't think it takes longer to load (some apps already have them on webOS). Thanks dude!

The FUD is not that Task Managers exist or that iOS uses a PNG. The FUD is implying that Task Managers are needed or that iOS is somehow not fast and only uses "tricks" to seem fast.

"and needing to use a task manager to switch would get hard to handle for me"
....yeah, it is sooooooooooooo much different, press & hold home button (or indeed, assign an alternative task manager of your choice to it, as for example "Itching Thummbs", that mimics EXACTLY webOS cards) & then click one of the "latest" app icons, versus clicking home button, and then swipe left/right, and click your app card! LOL

I agree that webOS is not dead, but it IS in intensive care on heavy life support. The only reason for the spike in Touchpad sales is the fact that they're practically giving it away. At $399, they've relegated it to that same group of "el-cheapo", no name brand tablets, we've all seen in the department stores and online.
Let's be honest, if the iPad was dropped to $399, the average tablet buyer would NEVER pick the Touchpad over the iPad.
HPalm has one last chance to save webOS. They've GOT to follow the same game plan that Samsung has taken. Release a flagship phone on EVERY carrier, period. This single strategy took Samsung from the basement to contending for the top smartphone maker in the world.
If HPalm does not release a super-phone by years end, then at that time, webOS WILL indeed be a dead platform.

You are about as dramatic as the blogoshpere! Christmas is 4 months away. Do you really think they would just give up in 4 months... Relax your self son. Most people have been waiting 14 months for the pre3 (aka c40). 4 months...YOU CRAZY!

" Release a flagship phone on EVERY carrier, period. This single strategy took Samsung from the basement to contending for the top smartphone maker in the world."
I think the facts, that TouchWiz is one of the best Android skins (if not THE best, from consumer point of view) = great software differentiator, hardware they are releasing is absolutely cutting edge technologically = great hardwre, and the phones are released that follows the WANT of the consumers, instead of going against them, has a "little" to do with it, as well, and not only being available on all carriers.

MAybe it is differernt in US, but I bet that 90% of potential smartphone users lives & works within the area of roughly the same coverage REGARDLESS any carrier (namely, densely-populated urban areas). People do switch carriers all the time, and are following the best deals, since there's nothing in it for them, to stay loyal to one carrier (opposite, the best deals are always for NEW customers, to attract them from other carriers). At least that's how it is here in Europe.

"If HPalm does not release a super-phone by years end, then at that time, webOS WILL indeed be a dead platform."
You haven't been paying attention. THey will NOT release super-phone by year's end, there's nothing but Pre 3 this year on their official roadmaps (which were greeted as a life-savers in the comments here).

A completely meaningless chart. No actual numbers and one app alone even with numbers says little. Real Tpad sale figures are what is important. An figures on developers getting on board.

Wishing something to be true does not make it so.

Anyone saying HP would not give sales figures if numbers were impressive. Excuse me?

I like the way Tpad integrates mail clients, actually I have always like the palm OS but a dark horse in the corner does not play well with the rest of the crowd.

All the sword rattling I hear here is a repeat of what came before with other palm products.

An yes Apple is just that but they invented the game. For a time you can do what you want when your king of the hill.

I think HP needs to make WebOS more cross-platform friendly if they want it to succeed. I mean only HP printers (and only certain ones?). Only tethering to Palm phones, no ad-hoc WiFi? Not a good way to play with others.

I really want Tpad to work, but us closing our eyes and deciding it's just the best will not win the day.

Hola PreCentral folks,

I'm the developer of TapNote. Some of my additional thoughts about this graph of mine:

I was prompted to create it after reading the worthless TechCrunch piece about how webOS is dead, which basically boiled down to "I don't personally see TouchPads around, and my feelings are saying that it's a dead platform." Personally, I prefer to inform my feelings with data when I can, so I took a look at my own sales data. This has the following limitations (as other commenters have already pointed out):

1) It is not necessarily generalizable. Without numbers from other app developers, there's no way for me to claim a general trend. So I haven't; this is what I'm seeing, and you can take it with a grain of salt or leave it.

2) Other factors may have caused or partially caused my increased sales. The jump happened with the release of the TouchPad, but it also coincided with TapNote entering a market where it has few competitors and has received much more publicity (TapNote on phones had a tough time luring people over from incumbent note-taking apps, and received virtually no press from third party sites). Note that the $50 credit is inflating my sales numbers in August; all the sales from July were from TouchPad early adopters.

3) The graph currently illustrates a jump, not a trend. My dearest hope is that the new level of sales will stabilize or continue to grow. However, I will not know if this is the case for another few months. If the spike was caused by factors other than customer uptake of the new TouchPad, it is possible that it will drop back down over time.

4) I might have overlooked some things; moving pretty fast because this weekend is jam-packed with offline events for me. :-)

And finally, as I have mentioned on Twitter and my blog at various points, webOS does not make enough to pay the bills. I am still working on it in my free time outside of my day job, and if an app developer came to me to ask if they could make a living making only webOS apps I would have to say that based on my past data the answer is "no." The jump illustrated in the graph (and the continued growth that I have been seeing in August--which admittedly again could be contributed to outside factors like being featured in the App Catalog recently and the $50 credit) is starting to bring TapNote closer to the point where it might start paying its own way, but I will not know if this is the case for sure yet for several months.

Personally, my conclusion agrees with Tim's. Based on my app's performance, I think that webOS is finally starting to grow into its own with the TouchPad launch, regardless of tech punditry's doom and gloom predictions. Although I am basing this feeling of mine on data, however, it is still no sure thing. I think it's a stronger conclusion than TechCrunch's, but the base data is unavoidably flawed so ultimately only time will tell.

Thanks for chiming in, Ian, and thanks for contributing to WebOS!

The funny thing is, I'm getting pretty good at telling when an article is written by Tim "time to party" Stiffler-Dean just by looking at the headline.

http://www.precentral.net/webos-weekly-it-s-time-party

...and sadly, this article feels similar to me.

Don't get me wrong, I'm still in WebOS's corner, but like you said and Tim alluded to, one chart from one app is not necessarily generalizable. And I don't know if this was your call or Tim's, but showing a chart that doesn't have Y-axis values will just make the article (much) less credible to more astute readers.

Anyway, I don't have the $50 credit because my only WebOS device is a Pre minus at the moment, but I'll probably give TapNote Lite a try. Are you tracking the downloads for TN Lite too? That might provide some interesting data, since it will also include users who don't normally pay for apps.

I am not interested in sharing my specific sales data (hence the lack of numbers on the Y axis). Best I can tell, this sentiment is pretty well shared among app developers of all stripes across all OSes.

I do track TapNote Lite, but it is harder to graph because I do not have any after-the-fact definitive sales data (HP publishes monthly reports for paid apps, but not for free ones). I will have to take a look at that data and see what story it seems to be telling.

You can make a living off making webOS apps. You just have to make the right ones. ;)

If that's the case, I wish I knew which app I should be making. :-)

Thanks for posting this. On your point #1, you say "Without numbers from other app developers, there's no way for me to claim a general trend." But, Tim has no problems generalizing and extrapolating these numbers and saying "App sales skyrocket" instead of "TapNote sales skyrocket". Also "skyrocket" is not a term I would use without knowing the scale -- going from 5 sales in June to 500 in July could really be considered a flop given the potential new devices that were out there.

On your point #2: What about the fact that there is currently **NO** document editing tool for webOS, that could have an incredible affect on your numbers. If your tool is just one of a very small handful number of document type editing applications for the TouchPad and 90% of TouchPad users bought your app, then if TouchPad sales were in the thousands -- not so good, millions -- pretty darn good.

Again, I hate to say this, but without a scale for the graph it is completely meaningless. In additional without have the number of TouchPads sold, it is likewise telling even less of a tale. Obviously there is no way of knowing that number as HP is not releasing it and unless they sold millions upon millions they will not release that number.

Let's pick a nice round number. Let's say your sales went from 20 in June, to 2000 in July. What does that mean? Sure it means a huge increase in the money in your pocket (which is ALWAYS a good thing), but I don't think we could stake anything on that. But if your numbers went from 2000 in June to 200,000 in July then hey -- we can say something!!!

Please post your scale!

Although it's been mentioned before, where is the Y axis for scale? The chart is truly meaningless without a unit for reference. Imagine if the American government published that the GDP is the highest it has been since the recession, asked for to be re-upgraded to AAA credit by S&P, but refused to show actual numbers.

Bad analogy, S&P supposedly made a math error themselves when downgrading the US.

As a rule of thumb, companies with real success always give you solid numbers when you are presented with graphs and the Y axis isn't labelled....

Exactly what I was thinking.

"Creative" reporting and analytics at it's best!

"If you take a deeper look, you'll also notice that there are already more reviews for the TouchPad version of the app than the much more long-standing smartphone version of TapNote. What does all of this mean?"

it means, my dear Sci-Fi editors, that TouchPad has been released without practically ANY software on board, that would be remotely viable to be used as notetaker/text editor, thus momentary peak of interst in one of the best note-taker app.

Besides, this is ONE app sale rocketing (singular), and ONE developer (also singular). Who didn't even "join" anything, because AFAIR he was ALWAYS onboard with webOS.

As far from objective journalism as humanly possible, Precentral.

While I do believe that at the current pricing, if combined with hard marketing push, they might be able to sustain webOS ("sustain", means expand it's userbase, mindshare & developer base), but it WILL NOT happen overnight, much less it happened already, like your very biased article strongly suggests.

At these latest price points, after $100-$200 cuts, TP gets some real-world pricing, where it can be considered a viable alternative to anything competition has on offer AT ALL. So there it is, where HP's uphill battle practically begins, to drum it up and sell it to broader public (before - it was pure nonsense and delusional expectations). And it is yet to be seen if they start doing it, and if they succeed, is a whole differerent story. I'd like to believe that current price slashes came from the new man in charge, and they mark a point where and when HP gets real and starts making logical, and common sense moves. That would be much needed and most remarkable change, after that anybody anything professional can start consider webOS anything worth investing in. Be it enterprise customers, or mainstream developers (oh, and did I mention that developers needs available APIs to code against, and stable at that, and not changing with every release of new devices?)

one data points without no actual sale numbers.

save some energy and get some real sales numbers, shall we?

Hmm, just realized something that might really explain the sales numbers for one dev. You see, this app was and still is in the featured apps on webOS. Now it is the first app shown in featured apps. That would cause anyone's app sales to skyrocket.

And what about the fact that there are a very few document editing type apps.

Lack of choice will funnel all users into this one developer.