Apple Nokia Patent Fight: A Sign of Things to Come? (Let's Hope Not) 36
Over at sister-site The iPhone Blog, Rene Ritchie notes that a patent fight between Nokia and Apple has just reached a new level. Nokia started it, but it looks like Apple intends to finish it:
[Apple filed] a counter-suit which says Nokia is copying the iPhone interface. Says Bruce Sewell, Apple SVP and General Counsel: Other companies must compete with us by inventing their own technologies, not just by stealing ours”
Ouch. Over at Nokia Experts, Matthew Miller notes that Nokia's been in the phone game much longer and probably has quite the stockpile of patents to sling back at Apple.
Another company with a long history in smartphones and presumably a large stockpile of patents: Palm. We've noted before that there has been some saber-rattling from both Palm and Apple when it comes to patents. Thankfully, nothing has come of it (yet), but if it does, we can only assume that it would reach a level of ugliness on par with this Nokia/Apple dispute. Count us in as hoping it doesn't come to that.
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I hope Apple gets it's ass deservedly kicked, cooked and handed to it on a rather attractive silver platter one of these days; All this bitching about patents and flinging court orders at one another is so childish, the sooner it's over the better.
Apple is counter-suing to protect itself because Nokia filed the original lawsuit. Shouldn't you be whining about Nokia?
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A page full of application icons? Palm should sue apple for stealing their OS!
No multitasking?
That was Palms idea!
Up to now I can not see anything innovative in Apples UI.
If they are really building their counter-suit on this... that's actually quite desperate.
Are mom and dad gonna get a divorce? Please stop fighting, why can't we just be one big happy family!!! :(
It's OK son, you can live with Grampa Palm after we move out. He has a TON of old war stories to tell you. Remember how much you loved hearing about how the Zoomer eventually won the war against the Newton? Remember that? Yeah, you like that story! Now let me go buy you a toy that your mom said you can't have.
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YAY! i love toys and stories... Toy Story? :/
>Toy Story? :/
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Well I shall be counter-suing for some reason or another, just havent thought of one yet!
We will be counter suing for stealing the concept behind Jim Henson's A Christmas Toy!
Oh, wait, Disney bought Henson...
Haha good stuff :)
I love grampa
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Heheheheeeeeeheheheheeeheheh do I love patent wars. The the only people that loose is the customer base while they keep the other from making a better product.
IP law needs a GIGANTIC kick in the reform-pants right now.
without patents there is little incentive to expend the money required to research, develop, manufacture, and market certain products.
To whine about the existence of the very measures that insure innovation is misguided. It's too easy to take a very simplistic vision of patents with blinders on and say things like, "I want multitouch Apple's using patent law to keep it from being on my phone so something is wrong with patent law." Now wether such a patent is actually enforceable is another issue. it may not be. But such a narrow view is overly simplistic and ignores the roll of patents in fostering invention.
There will always be patent suits. And if there weren't you'd have very few products.
That's so far from true it's practically Bizarro True.
The single biggest driver of innovation is consumption (though sloth is a good driver as well). Give people something new or better and they will consume it. Patents simply reduce competition and prevent others from innovating and developing the original concepts further. Patents aren't wholly bad, however there needs to be a much shorter lifespan on the patent limitations.
Small correction to your post it should read "Without patents there is little incentive for multi-billion dollar corporations to buy patents from inventors who already researched and developed their product" just a minor fact of modern life that prior to patents people invented billions of products and since patents people have invented billions of products... The major change was just the inventor used to work with other parties and be paid for their expert knowledge. Now they are paid for their patent and will get sued for patent infringement if they ever want to improve their invention.
The difference between Nokia v. Apple and Palm v. Apple is that Nokia started this fight with the first suit, and Apple then filed a counter-suit.
I'd hope Palm would be smart enough to not initiate a suit, but only return in kind if Apple sues them first.
Apple's not going to sue Palm .. there's nothing to gain from it
I'm seeing Nokia winning this in 30-45 years(unlimited legal slush funds rock.). I would like to see Apple get sued several more times though. I have no problem with Apple for the amount of technology and protocols their steal, all large corporations do that. My problem is with their claims of being innovative and inventing pretty much everything. I can't even remember their last invention unless you count the ipod touchwheel as an invention.
I also just remembered everything iPhone belongs to a company other than Apple clear down to the name which they already got sued over... So I think they may have picked the wrong product to defend in a patent war.
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What I never understood about all these patent lawsuits is... If someone wrongly infringes on your patent, why wait until the company is big and successful, if you are truly wrong, you would want to nip it in the bud pronto. The real reason why this happens(my opinion) they want cash and do damage to the competitor. So all this is a cash grab, for lawyers. I wish they stop acted like they were so wronged by the infringing party. Just say you got to the market faster than we did with one of our vague not flushed out ideas and made billions, now we want our piece of the pie. Then maybe they could get more sympathy or at least some respect.
Apple needs to suck it up.
Their patent for a few things will be thrown out and when iPhone 3gs2 comes out, they will pay because Nokia, a foreign company, will get an AMERICAN FEDERAL JUDGE to put an injunction on sales of iPhones and then Apple will pay up.
They will lose their countersuit, lose the law suit, and lose their patents which ought not to have been approved of in the first place. Then Nokia will walk away with the money they deserve. Without Nokia, we wouldn't have them phones we have today...
Blame the register patent book keeper. Maybe he even has not a PC for make a right control and reject what was patented before or has not the neccesary knowledge to know how to realize tech differences between before and after patent requests.
Don
It's all a bunch of POOP far as i am concerned Apple this Nokia that palm this blaa blaa blaa... I am sure there are many company's on many diff products that had almost identical parts to it but yet no lawsuit All nokia has to do is prove they developed there own method of doing what they did and not copy apples junk... same thing for apple... I don't like apple because of some of the things they have done over the years... and a big part because they partnered with AT&T that's like sleeping with the devil him self... 2 s.h.i.t company's are made for each other. I hate both of them and wish to see em both fail... I use to work for AT&T and if you seen some of the crap they pulled you would no way come close to even considering having service from them...
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