AT&T Palm Pre Plus Review 104
The Palm Pre Plus on AT&T has solid hardware, mature software, and most importantly finally gives US-based GSM lovers a webOS option. AT&T is now the third US carrier to pick up Palm webOS devices and they're starting it off with the Palm Pre Plus at $149.99 with a 2-year contract. The Pre Plus will be available May 16th, the Pixi Plus will land later. We've only had a review unit for a couple of days but since there's so little changed from the Palm Pre Plus on Verizon that's enough time to give you a quick review of how the AT&T version fares.
We're going to focus primarily on what's new and different with the AT&T Palm Pre Plus as compared to previous versions of the device. If you're new to webOS, the good news is we have plenty of resources for you to learn what this device is all about.
- Brand new to webOS? Check out our original Palm Pre Guide
- For the full skinny on the original Palm Pre, our Palm Pre Review is the place to go
- To see what the "Plus" in "Pre Plus" means, see our Verizon Palm Pre Plus Review
Read on to see how the AT&T Palm Pre Plus stacks up!
Hardware
Let's get the specs out of the way:
- HSPA 850/1900 + Quad-band Edge
- 320x480 Capacitive Touchscreen
- 512meg RAM, 16 gig storage
- 3430 TI OMAP Processor (presumably still clocked at 500MHz)
- MicroUSB Connectivity, Touchstone charging
- 1150 mAh Battery
- WiFi
- Bluetooth
- Assisted GPS
- 3MP Camera with Flash and Extended Depth of Field
- Support for Exchange, Gmail, Yahoo, LinkedIn, AT&T Contacts, and Facebook in Synergy
- webOS 1.4.2
...in other words, these specs are nearly identical in every way to the Verizon Palm Pre Plus. The only significant change is in the main cellular radio. That's an important difference for many users - being on AT&T means that this Palm Pre Plus will work nearly anyplace on the planet and will also allow for simultaneous voice and data.
In our speed tests we am consistently getting between over 800kpbs download speeds. Upload speeds are a little more variable, ranging between 80kpbs and 250kpbs with a strong AT&T signal.
Form-factor-wise, if you've seen one Pre, you've basically seen them all. What we have here is a vertical slider with a plastic capacitive screen at 320x480. We'll admit that both the physical dimensions and number of pixels on the Pre is starting to feel a little on the small side. That minor niggle is more than offset by the fact that the Pre has its slide-out physical keyboard. On the iPhone and most Android devices, bringing up the keyboard radically reduces the amount of visible screen real-estate, a issue that doesn't exist with the Pre Plus.
For a limited time, AT&T is giving away Touchstone chargers for those who purchase the Pre Plus in stores, which is nice since the Pre Plus comes with the matte-finish inductive charging back. We still find the door covering the microUSB charging/data port to be fiddly and annoying.
Build quality on our review unit is the best we've ever seen on a Palm Pre. Palm has clearly worked to make some subtle tweaks to improve the overall hardware quality of this device. The slider feels as though it has a touch more friction than the Verizon or Sprint versions - it feels tighter overall. There is no "Oreo" effect whatsoever, no creaking, no rattles - it's just solid.
The keyboard is also much improved over even the Verizon Pre Plus. They keys are a bit clickier than the Verizon version and much much improved over the Sprint version. More importantly, we cannot detect any problems whatsoever with double-keys or missed keys. They keyboard is great. We do wish Palm would implement more software-based auto-correction like adding a period on double-space and in general more aggressive error correction.
Unfortunately, we can't give a final verdit on built quality until we see more devices out in the wild. Build quality on Palm devices has varied widely for users - especially on launch devices. If our review unit and a couple of days of hard testing is any indication, however, Palm's build quality issues on the Palm Pre are behind them.
Though this won't surprise anybody familiar with the differences between GSM and CDMA, when we looked inside the battery door of the Palm Pre Plus we actually saw less surface area devoted to antennas, for whatever that's worth.
Using the AT&T Pre Plus
We haven't had our review unit long enough to give the battery a solid test, but in two days we've found that it seems to be on par with previous Palm Pre phones. We've been hitting this device pretty hard and in two days have twice capped out at around 8 hours of heavy web browsing, email, Twitter, gaming, phone calls, ...etc. In other words - with light to medium use you should be able to get through a day. If you fall more on the moderate-to-heavy use side of the scale or you have sketchy wireless signal, you're going to want to stay near a charger, keep an extra battery, or use an extended battery. Unfortunately, we could not find a setting to force the AT&T Pre Plus to use EDGE-only for data; that will require a homebrew patch.
WiFi and Bluetooth work as expected, which is to say quite well. We weren't able to test the feature that automatically logs you into AT&T hotspots (as we don't have any of those nearby). Sadly, but not unexpectedly, there is no Mobile Hotspot functionality to help you tether your laptop to your Palm Pre Plus. Given that AT&T hasn't allowed this for the iPhone yet, this isn't a surprise, but it is still disappointing. There are also no new Bluetooth profiles, but the devices works quite well with the Bluetooth headsets and car stereos we tested it on.
Though this isn't news to anybody who has used webOS, we're still in love with the righthand menu, which allows you to quickly adjust WiFi and Bluetooth settings no matter where you are on the device. Like Palm's user interface for multitasking, it's a feature that's still unmatched by any other mobile platform out there.
The AT&T Palm Pre Plus runs webOS 1.4.2. We are told that it is functionally identical to Verizon and Sprint's webOS 1.4.1.1 - the only significant change are the necessary additions to make it compatible with AT&T's different radio. Poking around the device, that appears to be the case for us. Some things, like setting up call-forwarding, are much more elegant, presenting a dialog box instead of forcing you to dial in and hear a message. In general, however, there is nothing majorly new here for CDMA users to be jealous of.
We received an anonymous preview of the AT&T Palm Pre Plus last week which suggested that this version was notably faster than the Verizon Palm Pre Plus or Sprint Palm Pre. In our testing that hasn't quite turned out to be the case. Apps do load fairly quickly (see video above) and of course loading multiple apps is not a problem at all (though we haven't yet attempted to load up 50 apps at once, we suspect that wouldn't be a problem). So we're definitely satisfied with the speed of the AT&T Palm Pre Plus, but we believe that any fresh-from-the-factory Pre Plus would perform similarly.
Performance in apps was very good, on par or better than we've found on previous webOS devices. 3D games launch quickly and run smoothly, both YouTube and local video play well, we have no notable gripes about he camera or video capture, audio performance is great, and so on. We still find the email client on the Pre Plus to be on the slow side, but we expect that the next version of webOS due out by the fall should address that issue with significant under-the-hood improvements. That version of webOS will also allow deeper access for developers to create apps that access the microphone (Shazam!), camera (Barcode scanners), and Bluetooth.
One piece of really great news, as seen in the video above, is that GPS, Assisted GPS, and tower-location all work very reliably and very quickly, unlike the Verizon Palm Pre Plus. On every app we were able to get a quick location and even in many cases a direct GPS lock even while indoors with the default location settings.
AT&T Software
As mentioned above, AT&T is not including Mobile Hotspot on the Palm Pre Plus. However there are a few AT&T-specific pieces of software worth noting.
The first is AT&T Navigator, based on TeleNav, for voice-assisted turn-by-turn directions. If you haven't used TeleNav-based software in some time, we can tell you that it's full-featured and very easy to use. As with Verizon (but unlike Sprint), users will need to pay an extra $9.99 a month in order to use AT&T Navigator (There is also a $2.99 "trial day pass" option." You can also pre-plan trips and send them to your device at http://www.navpreplan.com/.
The second piece of software pre-loaded on the device is YPMobile, which is essentially a competitor to Google Maps. It's available for all webOS users and for now we very slightly prefer it to Google Maps on webOS - if only because Google Maps on webOS is sorely in need of an update. We've previously reviewed YPMobile.
The rest of the AT&T additions are on the backend. As mentioned above, the AT&T Palm Pre Plus should automatically log you into any AT&T Hotspot and AT&T's own contacts service is now available as an option for Synergy contact syncing.
Wrapping up
Everything we love about webOS is still here and works as well or better than it has on any other webOS device: Synergy for syncing contacts, calendar, and email, the best multitasking experience on mobile, integrated SMS/MMS/Instant Messenger](http://www.precentral.net/integrated-messaging-palm-pre), Universal search for finding people, apps, and searching the web, convenient and unobtrusive notifications, and so on.
You might argue that the Palm Pre Plus is starting to look a little dated and long-in-the-tooth compared to the other offerings coming out this summer and you wouldn't be entirely wrong in that assessment. The Palm Pre is competing head-to-head against the iPhone on the same network for the first time in the US and so we don't expect that this release will radically change Palm's fortunes. However, compared to that iPhone, the Pre Plus currently has several key advantages:
- Better multitasking support and UI, including the ability to pause and resume 3D games
- A physical keyboard that doesn't occlude half the screen.
- An open platform that isn't hostile to developers who care about, well, openness
- The ability to adjust radio settings from anywhere on the device
- Support for multiple Exchange accounts - and in general better support for syncing to multiple accounts in the cloud
- Notifications that don't stop what you're doing
Some of these advantages will disappear when the next version of the iPhone OS and the next iPhone arrive later this year, so with luck both Palm and AT&T will use this window of opportunity to sell as many devices as possible.
Setting the iPhone aside, the Palm Pre Plus is radically better than the one Android device that AT&T currently carries, the slightly embarrassing Motorola Backflip. It also stacks up fairly well against AT&T's BlackBerry lineup in terms of gaming, web browsing, and multitaksing (BlackBerry still wins on email, of course).
In other words, the Palm Pre Plus is a solid addition to AT&T's lineup and it's nice to see that Palm is now on three of the four major carriers in the US. As usual, we're going to say it's the best webOS device Palm has ever released, but that's what we say with every new device and, frankly, if we didn't say that with every new device there would be a significant problem here.
Now that HP is on the road to purchasing Palm, we can be confident that webOS devices will be well-supported and see frequent OS updates for the foreseeable future. We're also hopeful that we'll see newer hardware from Palm before the year is out, but our hunch is that it won't launch on AT&T.
If you've been waiting to get a webOS device on AT&T, you should have no qualms about picking up the Palm Pre Plus. If you're an AT&T user and not sure whether the Palm Pre Plus is right for you, we strongly recommend heading to an AT&T store and checking one out in person once they're available.





















104 Comments
My Verizon palm pre plus has a sticky "o" key. It works only if pressed w pressure towards the left side of the key. Small nuisance, since I end up typing .cm instead of .com. Wonder if any issues with the new ATT palm pre plus keyboards.
"More importantly, we cannot detect any problems whatsoever with double-keys or missed keys. They keyboard is great."
I feel stupid :(
I hope pre plus comes to T-mobile as well.
+1. I want GSM but I do not want to give AT&T my business.
Or i'll just play the waiting game and keep waiting for a 4G WebOS device on Sprint.
I would be interested to see some kind of torture tests. Maybe collaborate with TiPB and AndroidCentral on that. Haven't seen this kind of testing other than for laptops.
After looking at the video it seems like it would do better with the 800 MHz patch.
You're probably right. I felt it was important to do this review without any patches :)
it is great w the patch. I have had it on mine since it came out...no problems and great speed.
I must be the luckiest guy in the Palm PRE world.
I've had my PRE since July 2009 and NEVER experienced a physical problem. Yes I had too many apps open errors, but since I UP-Clocked it to 800 it runs like a timex... just keeps on ticking, & I get very VERY FAST download speeds on or off WiFi allover New York City and Long Island, especially with my free ATT WiFi access (thank you StarBucks Gold Card!).
I must have bought 1 of the 10 good PRE phones? as it appears from this site that many are flawed from the GitGo...
Just waiting for the next Sprint PRE device to arrive and hopefully will have the same great build quality as my current PRE.
I think in general people here are pickier than your average user - but we definitely had to address it :)
I'm on my second Sprint Pre, but that's only cause I kept dropping the first one. Overall, I didn't have too many issues with it, but I definitely had the "Oreo" effect. When I dropped it in sanitizer, I had repeating key issues for a couple of weeks, but once it completely dried that issue went away.
I'm happy AT&T is getting the Plus. I personally wouldn't go to AT&T, but that's just my opinion. I am holding out for the next-gen Pre on Sprint. I'll be a very happy camper when that happens. I think when it lands, I'm going to convince my girlfriend to switch to Sprint from Verizon, to save money and get a better Pre.
I love my Pre, and have since day one, but I do agree that it is starting to feel a little bit last-generation-ish, only because of the rate that new phones are coming out. If I didn't follow it so closely, I would probably still think I had the most innovative, top of the line device that's ever been thought of. And for the most part, I'd be right. =D
I'm the same as you, bought mine in July 2009 in NYC. No problems whatsoever, except recently the slider action has become a little less smooth than it used to be, minor annoyance.
i got a pre on launch day and on day 2 i felt the top layer wiggling and being loose and not from looking for it and twisting my phone, but a simple back gesture swipe made the top layer twist from the bottom keyboard layer, or touching anything above the midpoint on the screen pushed back as if it was blackberry surepress technology.
your experience doesnt negate mine. you are lucky, because most, especially sprint ones, were built like garbage and palm admitted it.
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If I were to buy one of these would it work in the UK? I could unlock it here, but would it take the reflashed WebOS Doctor?
You should get the German or French Pre Plus instead. AT&T one won't support Euro UMTS frequencies.
8000kbps down?? who needs a wimax webOS device when the at&t pre plus is already pulling down 4g speeds ;)
#corrections
DOH! Fixed. Thanks!
Damn you flash/apple, now I can't watch the video until I get home tonight. Great review though, has me excited about getting one. At least there is some hope of it getting flash down the road, unlike my current iPhone.
Another question is, Why doesn't Palm put the revamped keyboards on the other versions? Any new manufactured Pre Pluses for Verizon should have the newer AT&T keyboard. That is the only constant problem with my Verizon Pre.
that blue mirror and palm logo on the back of the pre looks cool.
Ummm you mean the AT&T logo and the reflection of the sky?
I thought it was blur, at first, but later concluded that the sky was visible in those two highly-reflective surfaces.
Good thing.
killing me inside, I don't want to spend 150 to bet stuck with a 3 year old device in two years... gotta wait for one to pop up on craigslist.
FYI, I paid $150 for mine in January... I've easily had $150 of entertainment value since then. Go for it. Really.
that att navigator looks alot like the sprint navigation
Sprint and ATT are both using Telenav for GPS.
It is the same, the only difference is AT&T suckers have to pay an extra $10 a month while Sprint users get it for free :)
... Damn I love Sprint!
8000kbps downloads? what happened to "a better 3G experience"? Heck, my VZ Pre+ does way faster than that...
even more surprising is that they haven't forced Palm to put the 1400mah battery in this thing. Seems like such a simple thing, and it could prevent massive returns from the faint of heart.
I know!
And how did they get 8 hours of heavy usage... Like wt...f?
I get like 6 hours of moderate usage. Very annoying.
GSM devices are more battery efficient than their CDMA counterparts. On the Pre it's a real "Plus" .
Is it just me or does the AT&T Pre have wifi on in that speed test video? Maybe the emblems just look similar?
Hm, it might. I was trying to show the speed of launching apps, not download speeds.
Wifi also assists in GPS locations. Your IP address is linked to an address, that is why the WIFI-on AT&T model received a map location before the Verizon WIFI-off model didn't. But it is a known fact that the Verizon Pre has GPS issues. I do need the keyboard to be replaced on ALL Verizon Pres that are being manufactured so I can get a replacement that finally works!
yep, he even says they are on wifi
I am suprised to see that AT&T did not opt for the Orange colored keys as they have Orange as thier Corp. Color scheme.
I used to work at AT&T and when they purchased Cingular, the only thing Cingular they kept was the orange color which overnight became the new AT&T color scheme....
It could have been a way to differentiate the VZ from ATT PRE.. not withstanding the Sprint orange keys. One has to wonder why VZ did not ask for RED key scheme??
And Sprint should have had yellow keys? Maybe this would have fixed the problem with keyboards....
SO happy to hear the keyboard has been improved (again). Add in the Telenav and I am ready to get one ASAP.
Great review!!!!
Seems like a great new addition to the webOS family. Thanks for the review and hopefully after this thing launches, we'll finally get to see some next gen hardware.
Also the ATT nav is made by Telenav which is similar to Sprint as well... $10? O well
So is Yahoo Messenger native on the AT&T version?
Tsk, nope, it's not showing up as an option under the Messaging account add screen.
That's just lovely. Are you aware of any workarounds (short of using their mobile site) to add it?
Man Dieter. I wish you could have tried out the ATT Address book so that we could see how its supposed to work in conjunction with Synergy. Is ATT Address book an extra charge or is it just there?
And is the Pre $149 after rebate or is there and instant rebate?
Address Book is a freebie:)
Great; now how do I get an unlocked GSM Pre+ so I can use it up here in Canada?
other than international travel and sim cards, I've never understood the big deal with gsm. I've used both cdma and gsm and didn't notice any noticeable performance advantages. At least with cdma you don't get that annoying radio interference. It's noticeable in bbc news podcasts fairly often when someones phone is obviously ringing and it's interfering with the reporter's mic.
Simultaneous voice and data is one GSM-advantage.
That's really the key. It is the clear advantage that iPhone users have over Palm Pre Plus users. That should be and will be the standard.
Dieter, On the Telcel GSM Pre which I've unlocked and am using on AT&T, from the Phone Preferences menu I have the ability to choose default data network. The choices are automatic, 2G and 3G. If I choose 2G, the device only connects at 2G (EDGE) data speeds. When you say there isn't a way to force the AT&T Pre Plus to use only EDGE data, are you saying the choice has been removed from the phone preferences menu?
Yep - I'm guessing that it's the first thing that appears under "Network," right? On the AT&T Pre the first thing is a grayed-out "AT&T"
You can enable or disable Data Roaming, Data Usage, opt for Manual settings for things like APN and MMS gateways, and toggle TTY/TDD
That's it :|
Dieter - great review. I've been waiting for this to land for a long time. Next time I'm in the U.S. (2 weeks from now), I should be a proud owner of a WebOS device -- at long last.
But -- before I take the plunge: do you guys have plans to do a review on the 'unlockability' of the AT&T Pre+ units? I have both AT&T and Rogers (Canada) SIMs --> I plan to buy and activate in the U.S. with the AT&T SIM.
A related question: If I have to doctor the phone for any reason, does that mean I need to be in the U.S. / on the AT&T network to re-activate?
Thanks
We may take a look at this after it's released - but probably not a good idea to hack on a review unit :)
Touche' Thanks for the reply / hopefully the unlock codes work.
Okay So I'm on Bell with Palm Pre CDMA, is there any way I can get an unlocked AT&T version and put it on Bell's GSM Network? and one day transfer over to Fido or Rogers and Bell any time I want?
Greg -- from what I understand, that might be a bit tricky for you. Reason-being: to work on Bell's network, you'd need a Bell SIM card. I'm only aware of them giving them out for Blackberry (world edition, etc..) and iPhone handsets.
IF you had an activated Bell SIM, you *might* be able to get it to work in an unlocked AT&T Pre. I say *might*, because, I've heard stories that Bell might only let specific physical devices work on their network.
On the other hand - I know Rogers is less picky. So: as long as the AT&T Pre can be unlocked, it will work there (with a pre-existing SIM).
Good luck.
Bell will now sell you a SIM card, their HSPA+ network uses sim cards.
Their old CDMA network didn't use sim cards, they had BlackBerry World Edition devices which were/are CDMA/GSM phones and so they used a SIM card when travelling.
ok time for a telco lesson... CDMA VS. GSM:
picture a room with 20 people whom speak 10 different languages, so 10 couples who can only speak to each other. With CDMA, When one person starts to speak everyone else has to wait till they get a time slot to speak to their partner...
with GSM, 10 people can speak at once & the other 10 only hear the person speaking their language, so much faster & you can have data & voice simultaneously...
This came from an AT&T technical presentation some 10 years ago..
I think you have it exactly backwards. :( TDMA is what you're referring to with GSM (though it's now a variation of TDMA). CDMA signals are broken into blocks and given a "code". TDMA GSM is where the signal is given a time stamp and put back together based on its time. Though they both have their advantages and disadvantages this is one area where CDMA tends to edge out GSM with regards to efficiency of bandwidth. That being said this increased efficiency that CDMA enjoys (more people can use as the same time) requires more complexity in its technology and more power hungry antenna (harder on batteries).
Yes, GSM can have voice and data at the same time but the drawback is the voice quality tends to be worse and like I said earlier not quite as efficient with the number of people a GSM tower can handle. The differences between the two are shrinking every day but it can't be a coincidence that Verizon and Sprint are seeing increases in satisfaction among smart phone users and AT&T and T-Mobile are going the opposite direction with regards to their "networks".
Hey Dieter 2nd par. in the Hardware section: "In our speed tests we am consistently getting..."
Not trying to be a pain in the ass, just a heads up.
However, another great review.
lol, when I first read that, it reminded of my daughter marching around the house when she was 3 singing "we am pirates."
So now my girlfriend is all pissed that this is $150 when it's only $50 on VZW. She's decided to put off upgrading to it from her iPhone 3G. This has put a major rift in our relationship because I already bought her a couple touchstones from Radioshack and an extra power cable from the OEM Shop on Amazon for 5.66 or whatever. Does anyone who works for AT&T know if they'll lower the price in a month?! I fear that we won't make it if she has the iPhone and I have the Pre... but as long as we both have the same phone, we'll be just fine! Please help!
let her play w your palm pre...if 150 is going o break u up then cut the cord. I know that is harsh I pd 250 for mine and my wifes at sprint when they first came out. Buy her a diamond that will shut her up and then get her the phone. come on!
But I can get a CZ for waaaaaay cheaper than $150... Plus the phone is actually useful unlike an intrinsically worthless rock.
What kind of a douche gets a CZ? That's way crappy, dude. Maybe she should have gone for Kyle.
Diamond or CZ, Kyle or me, big or small... whatever... Should she ditch her iPhone 3G and get the Pre Plus now or wait until a price drop? I'm afraid if she waits she'll hate me because she finds it obnoxious that I'm so much faster at finding stuff with my Pre than her with her iPhone. HELP!!
LOL thats funny...i don't act like that, i am a flower and gadget girl. but its a good idea. she is missing out on a wonderful phone, let her play with it for her to see what a great deal shes getting.
sell the touch stones, give her the cash to subsidize the phone. Of course, once she falls in love with the phone, she won't have time for you anyway, but that's how it goes with love...
Well, the AT&T version does come with a free Touchstone. And now it's 50 bucks. GO GET 'EM. :D
@ best buy pre-order my HTC EVO 4g!!!! Bye palm pre!!!
You've been doing that for, what, 6 months now? Does sticking your tongue out the corner of your mouth make it easier to keep the writing inside the boxes?
U need to get back to bagging fries so you can pay for it.
Hope they sell enough in the first few weeks to leak some specs already on the c40. Come on now im dying.
was there no section about simultaneous data and voice? That's kind of important, isn't it? Keep navigation open while driving and still take calls, look something up on the internet or change a calendar while on speakerphone, etc.
Funny that this review came out today as I just went to the AT&T store this A.M. to see if they had a demo and pricing details. They had neither of course.
While there I walked up and down the aisle looking at the current offerings. By no means will the Pre+ be dated or antiquated when it sits next to their current lineup. Among the several clam shell phones, the dull candy bar form factor of the iPhone and the several BlackBerrys....the Pre+ still looks unique and ahead of the game.
They would only have a demo if it's a corporate location and those locations were instructed not to take the demo out of the back room or show customers until launch day.
I agree that the Pre Plus will be their best phone. I'm no iPhone hater as I've had a few but I much prefer the Pre.
Having the Verizon Pre, I'm jealous of the new keyboard and more solid sliding. My keyboard is mushy, and for some reason the sliding is getting looser. I've only had it for 3 weeks out of two years! At this rate the entire screen will fall off in a couple months.
I love my Pre and my gf loves her Pixi and we both love our Sprint service. But I do have to admit that I am getting that itch for a new phone and the Evo 4G is the most tempting Android phone yet. So I am just praying that a Pre 2 comes out by the time I am ready for an upgrade. And that its specs stack up to the Evo.I would hate to leave WebOS especially right when it is about to explode with HP backing it, but the temptation is there.
I am gladly going to pick it up for $150 at 11AM on Sunday morning, even though I know the price will inevitably drop.
1. I have waited long enough for this phone.
2. I want to support Palm and see it succeed.
3. I think that the price difference per day is worth having the device sooner than before the price drops.
Same here. I'm not worried about the price as my Company disc brings it down quite low. I already bought an extra Touchstone from Radio Shack last night:)
typping fom phone. I am jeaous of the keyboard. I ate the double typing and letters getting dropped.
other than that I love eveything about my pre. Oh and vzw sucks about gps.
It's hard not to get the itch for the latest and greatest device, but I really love my VZ Pre Plus and have only had it for a few months.
If they continue to update the Web OS software for it I will probably hold onto it for as long as it will last me - love the look and feel of it, my shiney little stone! :)
I'm still worried about the no-contract price. I'm sure they (ATT) would make an exception for someone buying a new iPhone a few months from 2 yrs but for the Palm? No way.
[YAWN! ZZZzzz....] Palm needs to be like the other hardware carriers & use improved hardware with every new carrier release. If you're not first, you're last & if you are standing still, someone is passing you.
You mean like Google? Great to see the amount of troubling fragmentation that platform has, and it's only been out almost as long as webOS.
glad to see dieter cant get a gps lock on his verizon palm pre plus I thought I was the only 1!!
dude the wifi is on the att pre plus and off on the verizon pre..
and? They weren't doing data speed tests or anything. The GPS really is that fast to lock on the AT&T Pre Plus. In the back room of my store it locks within a few seconds.
As someone who has invested in Palm // been eagerly awaiting for a GSM model up in Canada. I have to say it looked kind of sluggish on speed in the review.
On one part, albeit while you're loading something else, you swipe and it takes like 4 or 5 extra seconds till it registers. Alternatively, scrolling didn't seem too smooth and I wonder why Google maps seemed relatively slow to load.
Definitely making me 2nd guess the phone, but then again I can't stand Android / WM (would never buy 7 either). Only alternative would be the iPhone and meh..
Wow im jealous of that blazing GPS lock time on the AT&T pre.
Palm should also install those keyboards into out devices for free, if they are really that good!
If I buy this phone, what do I have to do to make it work with another service provider in Mexico?
What about call quality? This IS a phone, after all.
muffled, static, dropped calls, etc. this IS at&t afterall.
Not sure where you are, but I don't drop calls at all and my voice quality is fine. Unless you've been using a pre production unit outside of a store for a given amount of time I don't think that your comment holds any water.
Well, coverage is really an anecdotal issue, to be sure. So neither of your comments hold any water, unless you've been across the whole of the US, testing AT&T coverage.
What is "AT&T Contacts"?
Been on Verizon with my Pre plus for a few months now, and I must say that despite relatively consistent (moderate) use on my phone, the battery has got better with each and every full charge.
I make it a point to fully charge, and fully drain. If you do that, your phone will work better.
When I first got my phone, I was lucky to get 6 hours like most from moderate use (with battery-saving techniques too, like forwarding all email to one accoount and having a 1 hour sync, no IM, and WiFi/BT off, low screen brightness, etc.), now I can push the pre plus through two days using it the way I always do.
Actually, fully draining a Li-Ion battery could have disastrous consequences.
There is a slight chance that when one fully drains a LiIon battery, the battery will not be able to hold a charge.
Professional opinion states that it's much better to top off the battery when you can, and keep the phone running; however, it is good to drain it at least once to gauge battery usage before battery death to make sure it doesn't die during actual usage.
im having a problem using preware on my new att palm pre plus
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I'm just frustrated by how many USEFUL PalmOS features were ignored or left behind: HotSync, Ignore with Text, and the calendar still just doesn't feel right. Otherwise, it's been great except for when my screen went to black and I had to perform a nuclear reboot!
Where is the 1.4.5 update?
I want to install preware on palm pre at&t
good phone..
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