Bradley: February 9th will bring a "broad set of announcements" [video] 113
So HP didn’t have any big announcements at CES 2011, but we can’t say we’re surprised. They do have that webOS soiree next month, after all, and CNBC sat down with HP Personal Systems Group Executive VP Todd Bradley to ask him about it. He told us that we can expect more than just a tablet (though he didn’t say that there definitively will be a tablet):
“So we’ve announced February 9th we have a broad public set of announcements, broadly about the future of webOS and the breath of products that it’ll enable.”
Bradley went on to explain that webOS was the reason HP bought Palm, and that they see it as more than just a smartphone OS:
“As we think about how that enables everything from smartphones to tablets to PCs to potentially other large screen devices, we see an enormous opportunity, both for ourselves and for our customers, to get the best web experience, the best content experience, that they can.”
He also confirmed what we had expected since the announcement of the announcement came out: HP is done with getting lost in droning buzz of CES. They decided to go all Apple and make their announcements on their own schedule. Though there was one small line that made us raise an eyebrow, just a bit: “tablets are phenomenal for content consumption; PCs [are] great for content creation.”
Regardless, we’ve got 27 days until we find out for sure what HP’s got up their sleeve. And for the record, no, it’s not David Blaine. Video after the break.
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I see it now. Booting my pc to WebOS...
Not booting your pc to webOS but replacing touchSence with a webOS layer on your pc
I think you guys need to see the video about the context in which this question was asked. Maria was pushing him about tablets cutting into the PC market, being that HP make many of the world's PC's he deflected the question by saying the tablet is a compliment to the PC. So for the investor in HP that means tablets will be an additional growth opportunity and not just a loss of revenue from a market shift.... nothing to do about web os running your home PC. but it would be great if they created software to help your pc or mac distribute all of your content -=)
I see having a WebOS tablet that boots to a modded version of WebOS for a tablet interface, and then once you connect the bluetooth accessories(keyboard), you can boot to a more functional "desktop" OS version of WebOS. That would be sweet.
My 18 month old Pre was having battery and reception problems. I took it into a Sprint store in Los Angeles on Monday. Since I'm on a protection plan they are at least replacing it with a refurbed Pre.
I said I might want to move Android, and the service person said you might want to wait and that they have a number of webOS phones coming. That's all she would say. No confirmation. No details. In the past phone store people haven't always been realiable. But it's peaked my interest.
My post is about the protection plan. Actually my pre was 15 montsh old and I never had any insurance or protection plan. Fortunately it lasted well until 2 weeks backs. I dropped on the floor and the touchscreen stopped responding. I went to the Sprint store and bought a refurb pre for only $35.
So it is not worth paying $7 insurance on the old pre phones. You can save few dollars if you cancel the insurance on old pre phones (over 12 months). Just a thought.
Maddy
Not to mention all the other places one can buy a Pre for cheap.
The protection plan is basicly only good for if your loose your phone or someone steals it. You can get a new phone for $100.00. If you dont have insurance your out of luck. You are correct their repair or replace, if they cant repair, fee is $35.00.
It's, "...*piqued* your interest.".
" That's all she would say. No confirmation. No details."
thats what everybody in here can tell you too, just ask
Palm loves keyboards. Are we looking at a tablet with a keyboard? That is, a touchscreen laptop?
(BTW, all tablets have keyboards, IMHO...those without are slates, but I digress).
I got a friend who works for sprint and he knows absolutely nothing at all.
You could have just said "I got a friend who works for Sprint." The rest is assumed.
Zing!
LOL... Derek... that was kinda cold =)
most funniest comment ever! Hilarious & true all at the same time!
The comment that your friend who works at Sprint doesn't know anything about webOS devices is why I took the Sprint store comment with a grain of salt.
Also, I just got back from CES where I handled all the new Android phones and got to touch operate the Blackberry PlayBook. I'm still going to wait for the February 9th announcement to see what's in store for webOS.
Maybe a desktop version webOS on an HP Touch Smart? They are excited about something, plus there is no leak whatsoever.
Can a business with over 300,000 employees keep secrets for over six months about how webOS will change the industry?
Yes, and it is quite simple... tell only those who NEED to KNOW.
Not all 300000 employees know everything, in fact, none of them knows everything. Not even the CEO knows everything that goes on at HP. That's why he has department heads (i.e. Todd Bradley, EVP of PSG, or Phil McKinney, CTO of PSG) to tell him stuff.
Maybe a thousand people in HP (plus most in Palm) know what's going to be announced on Feb 9th.
The only Sprint employees that know anything about webOS read it on this or similar web sites.
Did I say anything about Sprint? If you read the thread, this discussion was wholly regarding HP.
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/06/23/technology/23apple.html
whos to say its not the same at HP?
I think you were aiming it one lower, but I think I can answer this quite simply.
Some things are similar between HP and Apple. For one, I rarely hear of HP's products leaking, same with Apple. But there is one major difference: HP embraces the tech news/blogging community. They openly speak with PreCentral writers, encourage homebrew, and they also participate on Twitter, et al. Apple refuses to do anything with Twitter, rarely sits down with large blogs like Engadget, and they lock iOS from homebrew (jailbreaking) and are trying to do the same with OS X.
You just need to see that Apple threatened the fake Steve Jobs account to see that they are not very friendly on Twitter.
The 300,000 employees was just something that crossed my mind when I was thinking about how things can be kept under wraps for so long. I kind of figured that maybe 1-2% of them know whats really going on behind the closed doors in Sunnyvale.
By the way Arthur, since you're a developer, its really great that you are here and you interact with all of us. I don't know anything about making applications or anything about programming. WebOS has really changed that about me. Also, great job on the Voice Memo app and I love using the Playstation app.
One more thing without being too personal, but what keeps you motivated as a developer for webOS when some do not come on board or just abandon the platform altogether?
I don't think HP cares much for the smartphone consumer market. The way Google let's any and every phone manufacture build with Android, HP is doomed if they think their own phones will make a dent against Google, Apple, Blackberry. I think it's too late to the samrtphone market - hope I'm wrong.
At 300,000+ employees and over $120 billion in sales, a lot of employees still don't know what Palm is or that HP acquired them - nor do they care. HP is really a bunch of isolated company's working under one brand - HP. They don't talk with each other much, let alone actually integrate and work together. Many still think the tablet is only tied to the Windows 7 device that was released a few months ago - to enterprise business.
It will be very interesting to see how HP's uses WebOS in the consumer space. I can see them in the BBerry space for enterprise business sales. A cloud of WebOS maybe???
I'm sure virtually all the employees at HP heard of Palm. At least the US ones. But they may do stuff that has nothing to do with mobile computing like support of banks or making monster servers. HP has kept Palm functioning as a division of HP and that's smart. Otherwise, you can't coordinate your efforts and political factions can form that derail your division. That's what happened to MS Kin and ended competing with window 7.
HP just wants to sells its devices and control its future. It doesn't matter so much how android device manufacturers do if HP sells lots of phones too. Motorola, Samsung and HTC are stealing business from each other because users are looking for a "google" phone and aren't loyal to the manufacturer. Plus there are few differentiator between android phones other than skins and the hardware specs like the latest processor or screen. So they end up cannibalizing each other's sales and watching their back as new manufacturers start throwing together their own android devices. The barrier to entry is so much lower when you don't have to do much OS development and it's zero cost.
Yes they do, but I believe HP's strategy is to win in the "connected devices / tablet" market initially so new people can see the beauty of webOS, then their interest will be peaked in the smartphone market and beyond such as TV's, Printers, Watches, netBooks, Computers, which are all based on this connected platform they have been hinting at for a while now.
over 300,000 employees at hp will have webos operated devices for business purposes and well as personal usages. think again!!!! it will be required!!!!
Maybe not "all" of them, but Google dogfoods devices as did Dell and Microsoft when Windows Phone 7 launched. It's a great idea to get people talking about WebOS again because I honestly believe they need a reboot to survive.
i hope that is the case. makes the most sense and will help with marketing. I hope WebOS is huge in the coming years. As mentioned above, smartphones to tablets to pcs to TV, etc... makes total sense and could really work.
Yes they can. Not all of us at HP work for Palm. In fact, out of 300,000 only a few hundred work there. Keep in mind that the Palm Business Unit also works out of a different office so they have their own little fortress and can control what gets out.
They also have employees that don't lose upcoming products at beer gardens.
Haha, awesome comment
I completely agree that for the majority of people, tablets, smartphones, and TV's are for content consumption (and minor content changes/creation). Over the years PC's (desktop and notebooks) will move further and further into the exclusive realm of content creators/businesses (hobbyists, designers, programmers, scientists, architects, etc.)
As we sit the mobile phone is the first device purchase for a new consumer (teens or developing world), but the second device purchase is still a computer (laptop or desktop). The day will soon approach where the second device is a tablet or slate or comparable (low power, use specific device) and the PC will move to the third slot & only for those involved in a career/hobby that requires high powered, broad use computing.
I agree with aewilliams. you still need a real keyboard with real apps to produce anything of significance, like Adobe Premier, Office products, etc. I like tablets as a consumption of content. If i start hooking up a btooth keyboard, external hdmi tv/monitor, etc. i might as well just use my laptop to create significant content.
The only thing that bothered me in that interview was what he said twice. We bought webos from palm. No dude, you bought Palm, you did not buy an operating system from a company. you bought the company that created the OS. That sounded strange to me. and if I was a palm/HPalm employee hearing that, I'd feel a bit PO'd
PO'd? HP saved their jobs - at least most of them and it is what it is - HP bought Palm for WebOS, not for the Pixi and Pre and Treo legacy support. This is fact.
This is where I'm scared. I hope they don't solely believe that tablets are only for consumption. As a web designer, I would love a consumption/creation device all in one. The hinted student palmPad tablet later in the year is what gets my attention.
"potentially other large screen devices" considering that tablets and PC's are listed what else is there???? WEBOS TV?? a google tv that actually works...
WEBOS SURFACE!!!
palmPad?
meet...
deskPad!
no more sliding bs... My life is hard enough to slide a damn fone on top of that... Be Simply please!
um.. what?
Thank you Markm. I agree completely. You probably made the greatest point ever with that single comment.
The answer of course is absolutely not. Apple was always secretive, but leaks always surfaced. For HP people to not be leaking info from the inside means they arent that much interested in what is in store.
You cant keep secrets THIS good on supposedly amazing tech.
you should reply directly underneath markm, if you're going to reference him in your comment.
The only leaks that came from Apple were ones from Chinese factories were parts were being made and negligent fratboys in bars.
You are ignorant to say that just because nothing is being leaked translates to no one being excited about what is being done. What kind of statement is that?
You've got to remember the original Pre and webOS, that was really amazing tech and it was super secretive for a looooongg time.
I know leaks are bad for business, so lets get a teaser from the business itself. At least its coming straight from the source and it does not hurt anyone.
This is getting more exciting. I am looking forward to see deviceS that HP is announcing. I think a tablet and new phones are given, but what else? Printer? TV? Laptop with a small screen on the back that runs WebOS when the PC part of it is off? New services?
I actually like the idea that HP pushing its brand and WebOS rather than pushing "Palm" as a brand. Palm is over, let the Pre, the struggle and bad marketing associated with Palm be forgotten. Focus solely on what WebOS can do to all the pieces HP have.
All that said, I need a phone first.
I'm reaaaaaalllyyy hoping we'll see a webos connected watch! (remember that blacked-out photo on mckinney's twitter?)
that, along with a new phone would be perfek (maybe i'll pick up that tablet eventually too, only if it's 7" tho..)
they need a superbowl commercial if they were smart, a teaser at least!
they needed something before black friday, before christmas, before the superbowl....
Missing each of these tells me they are not real focused on the consumer space.
Then you're being told the wrong thing.
They're focused on the consumer market, but they're more focused on getting it right.
If they'd released months ago, it would not have been ready. They waited for a reason, not because they're trying to stick it to the consumers, but because they're trying to ensure they have all their ducks in a row first. If they release the devices without great quality control (which HP has) or if they release subpar devices, they're not going to go very far. They obviously waited until February because they're looking for dual core phones as opposed to a single core 1GHz phone (the norm nowadays).
I, for one, always make sure my ducks are in a row.
Sorry, we spent our Super Bowl budget on 3Par. It will create more value than any commercial.
So did HP learn their lesson and start sending Bradley to talk about webOS instead of Rubinstein?
No, they want to talk with HP, not Palm Business Unit
There is no Palm business unit. Whatever Palm owned is now part of Bradley's Personal Systems Group. There is no Palm.
Again, you're saying incorrect things.
Palm does exist.. It is called the Palm Global Business Unit (PGBU).
See, it is a unit.
It's reassuring that they have "Global" in their unit name.
I hope they release webOS phones worldwide soon!
my bad. I meant no Palm company. I know they kept Palm as an intact BU under PSG. thanks.
I didn't say anything about talking with Palm Business Unit. Did you even read anything I posted, or listen to that interview? The whole time they talked about webOS, HP's integrated mobile experience, and tablets vs PCs (the last two of which will involve webOS in HP's strategy).
Do you just come to the comments to make stupid replies to things you obviously know nothing about?
Ruby is the manager of PGBU, I was stating that they probably wanted to talk to HP not a lower division.
No, you didn't say probably.
@BigBear I was told the complete opposite @ the sprint store. He said I should go to droid as pre2 was not going to be coming to Sprint. However, he did say he did get his hands on it & it was much better all around then went straight back to I should get the droid.
You know they just say that so you leave the store with a phone, right?
and on top of that reps usually get commission..
That's correct! No Pre2 for Sprint. That went to Verizon, etc. Sprint gets the first shot at the new stuff, that we will hear about on Feb. 9.
you sure you got the store right? sprint doesn't carry the droid.. and likely the rep wouldn't have handled a phone launching on another network..
In many people's minds, Droid == Android.
I think tablets and notebooks will eventually mege into the same market. Why? Because generally a notebook is used for portability. There are alot of things a tablet can't currently do, but that gap is getting smaller. What tablets will need to really dig in deep are slightly more productive apps (image designers like Photoshop, consumer home designer programs, music editing (consumer level) full office suites, ability to download things from the Internet and upload things to the Internet trough the browser, file management, video editing (consumer grade but better then IMovie on iOS), and a good book store. It also needs to dig into pc gaming. Games like wow, city of heros, aion, and other pc mmorpgs need a place on these devices as they would make an ideal game for touchscreens due to the multitude of actions and buttons that normally need to be pressed. Also pc versions of sims and strategy games like empire earth and age of empires would be awesome on these devices. I think a dual core 1.5 ghz with 2gb ram and good built in graphics could easily handle these and divide pc usage into tablet and pc. For now tablets are a better solution then a netbook or e reader, but not enough to replace the average notebook user. It needs more big software, not necessarily heavy duty, but a tablet should have more advanced apps then a phone. Mmorpgs and office suites are big ones.
I agree. I was at a tech event in November and remember telling someone that at next years show we'll see a good 25% tablets and less laptops. This number could be low.
I think they are already in the same mobile device market especially price-wise. That's what HP is doing- selling portable computer devices. If you want a keyboard because you need to create stuff with mature software then choose a laptop or netbook. If you want even more portability, instant power on, good browsing experience, get a tablet. Or even a printer with detachable tablet then go ahead. As long as it is HP's. They are covering all bases for the consumers.
OR
You could just get that device that lets you connect whatever peripheral you need, and shift to content creation or consumption on demand..
I think webOs will become the primary OS for HP computer and laptops like
Apple with MacOS x,
Microsoft with Windows
HP with webOs they have a lot catching up to do with there touchsmart line.
You mean like Apple with iOS. MacOS x is becoming more like iOS every day.
TouchSmart was another reason to buy Palm & webOS. Microsoft held back what could have been a very compelling product. You can't put together a product pipeline for something like TouchSmart unless you control the OS too. Microsoft was not going to change their product road map just so HP can got to market with a killer TouchSmart. In the end, this was a way to make better products that people would buy and control the outcome. The alternative would be to end up with a lot of inventory and wasted marketing budget.
I'm intrigued by "Large screen devices" and whether there will be an announcement on 9 Feb on this type of device. In the consumer space, you could think GoogleTV/AppleTV/Roku (or even Playstation/Xbox/Wii) competitor on TVs. However, given this is HP, I'm also guessing that videoconferencing (mainly targeted at businesses) is also in-scope (think about how Cisco is targeting tablets and TV markets).
more interesting to me are the charts. They show just how small phones are currently. they are obviously a potential growth area and tablets maybe more. but for all the people saying "hpalm" as if palm is somehow dominant over Hewlett Packard in mindshare or whatever, you can clearly see from where they get revenue that until webos blows up they make their money off of laptops, printers and it services. hell they ship 1 million printers a week. They aren't doing close to that in phones. it puts things in perspective. And Palm is a tiny sliver in the "other" in the personal systems group. That's why their booth at ces was laptops, printers, storage, and IT meetings with business clients. That's their strength. They are just hoping to add to it with webos tablets and phones.
People don't say "hpalm" because they think Palm is dominant over HP. They say it because it sounds good, and because the letter 'p' is at the end of HP and the beginning of Palm.
Also, the "dominance" all depends on how your eyes see it and/or where you capitalize...
HPalm
or
HPalm
or
hPalm
darn new commenting system. The strong tag for bolding no longer works?
is it feb 9th yet?
So HP goes whole hog and ditches Microsoft for WebOS on their tablets, laptops and PCs; adopting the Apple model of a single ecosystem across all devices but taking it a step further with printers, tvs, security systems, etc, etc.
So eventually you've got:
Google and their semi-complete ecosystem from smartphone to desktop to appliance (Android -- ChromeOS -- GoogleTV)
Apple and their semi complete ecosystem from smart(ish)phone to desktop (iXXX)
Microsoft and their semi-complete ecosystem from smartphone to desktop (Windows Phone 7 - Windows 7)
And finally you have HP/Palm and what could potentially be the most complete and seamless technology ecosystem with WebOS straddling all platforms and hardware touchpoints combined with unheard of cloud utilization to ensure that the move from touchpoint to touchpoint is totally seamless.
If it turns out even close to what I've described above HP will have substantially leap frogged the others. This could be a game changer.
HP wont ditch windows for desktops, they might make windows a layer on top of webOS with instant on, but to ditch windows is ludicrous.
ok, maybe not for enterprise customers.
The one thing that is consistant on this site is "HOPE". But more than hope, we all just want an new WebOS phone. All this talk about "possible" tablets, WebOS computers, and etc. is cool. But in the end......Everyone wants a new phone. Something I wonder about is how much of this community is Sprint, Verizon, and ATT? I assume sprint is the majority, but i could be wrong. But I think that the majority is looking to Sprint to provide that first first new thing. What if another carrier gets it? I think the first thing out of the gate will be a tablet that will be release in April. The phone won't make it to the battlefield until June. So the big announcement will be a Grand Introduction of WebOS and it's possibilities to the world with devices to come in the following 4 months. I could be wrong. But hey, it's just a guess like the rest of you....
check the video, there is no talk about "possible" tablet, but definitely coming tablets.
i hope hp doesnt make palms horrendous "exclusivity" mistake with a partner as weak as sprint
If not Spring then where? Lets be realistic here. AT&T's gig is the iphone,and Verizon's gig soon will also be the iphone. The general public going into either of those carriers will pass up the HPalm device and go straight to the iphone. Yeah I know not everyone on those carries has the fruit phone but the number of folks grabbing it up vs a webOS one will be pretty slanted. I don't see a carrier other than Sprint where an HPalm device can thrive. Public perception is a powerful thing.
I here more naysayers and putdowns on this site than hope...
The laptop, tablet and the smartphone will in one way or another compliment each other.
Laptops - for large screen, power, the DVD, video and heavy crunching.
Tablet/Netbook - for portability, presentation on the fly, adhoc stuff
smartphone - calls, check emails, calender etc..
Now what would happen if HP made the webos so thin, yet so robust that it can run as a virtual OS on a Window's environment (now we have it as a developer's envt') but this feature is enabled when you connect your webos device to it? (mobile phone). Now it's not just teethering, but more then that. The mobile device is part of the 'network' with the laptop. Practically any other webos device can be part of this including printers, cameras,fridges, tvs using some SMart UI, protected by a network VPN.
a. You can send SMS via your laptop.
b. You can send media/ docs.
c. You can stream your music from phone to your laptop or your Webos BOOMBOX...
the trick is how to do this seamlessly...and if they can beat Apple to this with a sleak, easy, and cliq^e way. It's a winner :)
i think large screen is something bigger than laptops. Bring TV's back into the mix would be cool.
First on my list:
1. Tablet
1a. New Phone on carrier other than Sprint, but can live with Sprint.
I really do hope that HP delivers. The one thing I really want, which is what i've heard from others time and time again, is for the many great apps that are found on many other os to find their way to webos. I can see webos being a major competitor to ios in the near future.
Very little commentary on the "larger screen devices" comment. Personally, this screams WebOS TElevisions. HP alreafy makes tvs and the Google TV type experience is something HP is ideally suited to take on. It can even come with a free toaster!
Why does every high level exec begin their answers with "So, ...". This guy does it, Ruby does it, hell, even MY CEO does it (and we're pretty small). Is that something they all learn at Harvard in "Answers 101"?
@Sweet Greggo: There is actually a specific answer for that question:
http://www.engadget.com/2010/06/17/so-opening-a-sentence-with-so-started...
Also, cool screen name.
-- Gregg
I know it isn't supposed to have anything to do with the Sprint/David Blaine announcement, but HP has dabbled in Magic before...
http://thetechnicist.typepad.com/.a/6a00e553766e4088340105367b1ad2970c-8...
So, Sprint has a big announcement 2 days prior. Obviously, they won't be allowed to spoil the HP thunder. Not looking too good for Palm fans. And, on February 9th historics suggest you'll be told of something coming in the months ahead.
What of the b.s. that Sprint store reps have the skinny on new webos phones and have touched the Pre2? Why is it people have the need to lie. At least no one said they could see Russia from their porch.
Right, no one did say they could see Russia from their porch. Oh wait, Tina Fey did on SNL playing Sarah Palin in a skit.
umahdbrah?
Nope. You want to add anything?
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HP will announce that they will be THE company to link all your new WebOS communication devices together via "the cloud" regardless which carrier you're with. Your smartphone will provide your everyday phone, email, txt needs AND since it's with you always, it will also serve as your personal hotsp******ot and provide wifi, bluetooth, or USB linkage between all your devices (WebOS phone, tablet and/or laptop, printer, and eventually TVs) to "the Cloud" under one wireless contract. It will be up to we consumers and businesses, to decide which carrier we want and what level of inclusion we want and are willing to pay for via 'unlimited' or various 'tiered' data levels.
This covers the, "Think small, Big, and Beyond" your run of the day Android or iOS devices and being cloud linked, accessible from any carrier. The delays have been getting the carriers onboard and geared up with faster networks capable of handling it all. And if HP is selling it right, there's enough for all carriers and they DON'T want one or two to have a monopoly and bogged down their networks!
The End
I just hope that HP/Palm licenses Swype for any devices that can use a virtual keyboard. I never thought a virtual keyboard was good enough until I started using Swype on my wife's Epic 4g.
Why raise an eyebrow? The comment is absolutely true. Tablets are the best form factor yet for consuming content in a portable format, but what can you really create with them? Maybe a super-powerful tablet with a pressure-sensitive screen would be good for artwork, but for most everything else, a tablet is missing essential components: keyboard, horsepower, large, high-resolution screen, etc.
a broad(way) set of announcements
My current webOS wishlist (listen up, HP/Palm!):
* At least 4" SAMOLED screen (at least 480x800 but preferrably 640x960 resolution) with Corning gorilla glass.
* Swype virtual keyboard! This is essential for virtual keyboards!
* MicroSD expansion (add up to 32GB more internal storage with current microSD capacity)
* At least 1GHz CPU but preferably faster and multiple cores
* 3D graphics acceleration and smooth scrolling in all apps
* 1GB RAM or more so we can have plenty of apps/cards/stacks open at the same time
* Native visual voicemail!
* Native Adobe Flash support
* Opera Mini browser for the reflow engine "mobile view" that is essential for properly displaying some desktop websites on a narrow phone screen.
* Skyfire browser
* Front-facing camera with Qik, Skype, Fring and FaceTime support
* Swipe down to minimize card stacks (keep apps running but get them out of the way)
* Faster OS boot time PLEASE! A reboot is painfully slow now (it takes 5 minutes and should take 20-30 seconds max)
* Load apps faster (as in instantly) - I don't like staring at a pulsing icon for 20 seconds while an app loads
* 8MP camera with autofocus, tap-to-focus, face/smile/blink detection, and dual LED flash. Should work well with a QR code scanner. Should include all the features of a modern touch-screen digital camera. Should also record HD video (at least 720p H.264 or even 1080p).
* Much improved battery life (at least 18 hours off the charger with heavy use) and a better battery indicator built into the system menu (shows percentage left all the time and you can touch to reveal what's been using the most battery, drain rate, remaining time, etc)
* A task manager/auto task killer that shows how much RAM, CPU and network are being used by all running processes and allows you to configure the phone to auto-kill certain tasks when they've been idle a set amount of time
* Voice search and voice command. "map", "navigate", "directions", "find Starbucks from here toward Burlington North Carolina", "call XYZ mobile", "calendar new reminder 5PM today remember to pick up bagels on the way home today"
* Don't stop loading web pages when the card loses focus!
* Email "Move to Folder" should allow you to type part of the folder name to jump to it in the list and/or navigate the list of folders quickly with the keyboard
* Auto-switch between available network connections (EVDO rev A, 802.11g, 802.11n, WiMAX, LTE). If one connection isn't working, try another one without having to disable the one that isn't working manually. Also, don't waste battery trying to constantly connect to or use connections with poor signal.
* "webtop" dock with external laptop-like display and keyboard (see the Motorola Atrix 4G)
* HD Multimedia dock with good speakers, HDMI output, and RF remote
* Vehicle dock that enables special vehicle-tailored GPS and media player modes. Pause music when using phone or if GPS voice prompts are enabled
* External bluetooth keyboard support
* Multiple home screens with widgets?
* MMS attach multiple images to a single message
* Integrate Facebook and Twitter status updates into contacts via Synergy?
* An app that can reliably back up all settings, home screens, and apps (including homebrew) to and restore from microSD or built-in storage
* An "Exhibition mode" app that can display a randomized photostream from Flickr/Photobucket/Picasa/Facebook with the option to still show the clock
* Faster transitions/loading of images when flipping through photos on the phone
* "live" wallpapers that respond to touch just for the eye-candy fun of it
You're expecting quite a lot from a company that essentially has launched two smartphones in two years.
Expecting little will get them blown away by the Android & iOS juggernauts. HP had better come ready to leapfrog them or they will go the way of Palm in this space.
Yes. A lot.
I agree with LiveFaith completely. The longer they wait, the higher the bar. HP/Palm needs to be ready to leapfrog Apple and Android (both phones and tablets) in capabilities or they'll never get any traction with webOS.
My wishlist is what they'd need to pretty much just keep up with the competition. Hopefully they can do the majority of the things I said and then surprise us with some new things we hadn't considered.
Perhaps keeping all your data in the cloud (including photos, videos, music) and having it available on all your HP/Palm devices is one way they can get ahead. I'd hope for unlimited cloud storage across your devices for $130/year or less.
So, does no one realize that Samsung owns the patent for Super AMOLED technology? I highly doubt they would license it to HP to make a competing smartphone. And, there are other high resolution/high quality display technologies out there. Using "retina display" and "SAMOLED" as generic terms for high resolution/high quality is not quite right. Besides, I doubt that HP would introduce a phone with a crap display, seeing as how high resolutions and high quality are standard on top-tier phones.
Well...I don't care what they call it but I'm counting on HP to have a high resolution/high quality display that can compete with both iPhone and the latest Android phones. I do expect them to use Corning gorilla glass as well since they're using that on Pre2 already.
i hope that HP is listening to you. Or better yet, that you were one of the HP employees whom known about the Feb 9th announcement.
sorry for my bad english I’am from germany. i had read in a german computer magazine that february 9th is the release date for the palmpad
http://www.chip.de/news/Palmpad-WebOS-Tablet-kommt-am-9.-Februar_4668603...
ok, so watched the video... there is a clip with a touchsmart PC swiping through what looks like "home screens" (6:20 into the video), I have a touchsmart, how do I get it to do this?
Oh man...the new Motorola Mobility devices are NASTY! HP/Palm I really hope you guys can keep up!
Atrix 4G:
2GHz processing (2x 1GHz cores)
1930mAh battery
10.9mm thin
1GB RAM
qHD display
fingerprint reader
16GB internal storage plus 32GB microSD (48GB)
13.9mm thin laptop dock with 11.6" display and stereo speakers and 8 hours of battery life
HD dock that supports external display, keyboard and mouse
Adobe Flash 10.1
Entertainment Center
Motorola Droid Bionic:
2GHz processing (2x 1GHz cores)
512MB RAM
4.3" qHD display (540x960) and HDMI output (1080p)
Adobe Flash 10.1 and HTML5
4G
8MP main camera
front-facing camera for Google voice video chat
QuickOffice document view and editing
Motorola Xoom:
2GHz processing (2x 1GHz cores) nVidia Tegra 2
10.1" 1080p HD 1280x800 display and HDMI output
Adobe Flash 10.1
4G
dual cameras and Google voice video chat
HD camcorder
Google Maps 5.0
Google eBooks
QuickOffice document view and editing
webOS on a PC...
Go from millions of available apps to less than 6000. Awesome.