Hey Jim Cramer, Let Us Google That For You 35

According to a leading internet poll, the trend of citing an internet poll, discounting it for its unreliability and then using this poll as a basis for giving investment or electoral decisions, is a growing problem among bloggers and forums readers polled.

Ever heard of sampling error, pundits? That's another good subject to google: http://www.pollster.com/blogs/internet_polls/

P.S. Stop being a Google-fanboy, Dieter. Cramer can google this in Bing, or google it in Yahoo if he wants. Sheesh.

Cramer is damn near insane if you ask me lol,

But your second poll actually shows a return rate of about 40%.

1733 Pre's fine, never returned

496 Pre's returned once

262 Pre's returned more than once, lets say those multiple exchanges were only 2 Pre's each even those many claim more returns than that. So under that catagory theres really atleast 524 Pre's returned.

So thats 2491 total Pre's in that poll with 1020 returned, which i believe is about 40% not 30%. Your poll was getting a % of people not the actual phone returns.

and why you have a I don't have a pre to even mess up the numbers worse, you were trying to get was just stupid.

oy, this guy is a douche. I agree with "ananymous" up there that he is basing this all of hearsay, and is comparing two companies that are not in the same stages. Instead of trying to destroy Palms stock, why is he not saying that the OS has a ton of potential and once exclusivity at Sprint is gone, the stock could rise again. The phone has been released ONLY in the US under one of the lowest rated carriers here. Apple is on AT&T which is rated one of the highest. He said it himself, it's like comparing real apples to fake. I guess he's right in that maybe Apple is the better choice at this moment and time, but will that be the case in the future? Apple is going to lose its steam also when people jump ship, realize it's not ALL THAT AMAZING (not to mention very unbusiness friendly) and shoot back to what they are accustomed to or is a better option.

That guy is SUCH a douchebag. I wanted to smack him when he started talking. He tries to put a comical spin on his presentation, but when in reality he looks like a straight ASS.

The poll in the forum is not scientific, and even blatantly UNscientific; that's for sure.

First, polls created by users tend to be flawed and poorly worded.

Second, people may communicate agreement or disagreement with their vote, whether the vote is accurate or not. For example, a person who dislikes the Pre could cast the most negative vote possible, even though that person never owned a Pre.

Third, people tend to flock to message boards to voice frustration, while people who are satisfied tend to remain silent. That is, the poll not based on a random subset of the population, but is based on a predictable subset of a community of users who are more likely to voice frustration. For example, if I see a thread about the oreo effect, I tend to skip it whether it is a poll or not, because I never had the oreo effect and I am not interested in discussing that topic. If the thread is a poll, you won't get my vote.

Also, the poll in this article should have been worded differently. The choices should be "competent financial analyst" and "reactionary goober who should do a little research before opening his big mouth." Then, when the poll turns out the way it did, someone could write an article about how reasearch shows that 97% of people in the world think that Jim Cramer is an incompetent financial analyst who is a reactionary goober who should do a little research before opening his big mouth.

So I tried to make the jump to Pre and went through 3 devices (which ironically were all fine) confirming that while my office is in a Sprint coverage area, its walls are apparently made out of CDMA kryptonite (AT&T GSM gets through no problem but Sprint and Verizon stop at the door). So my return rate was 100%. However, when I asked the guy at the Sprint store about Pre returns, he said the rate was about 15% and that 15% was the normal return rate for all of their smartphones.

Its all anecdotal unless someone actually publishes real data, but it sure seems to me that the Pre return rates are pretty consistent with other phones and nowhere near 40% overall.

I watched the mad money clip and it began to piss me off so I stopped watching. The Jon Stewart interview was hilarious though. It really put Cramer in perspective for me. Thanks for Including that in the post :)

I don't know how anyone can say that the Pre isn't a vast improvement over the Treo line. I had a 700p that I loved, but it certainly wasn't very sleek or svelte. It was rugged and was built like a tank, but until it got sorted, it crashed repeatedly. My Pre has crashed one time, on June 6th, the day it came out, and hasn't crashed since. The Pre is far superior to the 700p in all respects. It certainly isn't a downgrade, that's for sure.

I am no Pre fanboy, and recognize that it does have some flaws. Many of those flaws have been addressed, or our being addressed by the updates (emoticons for one). At the rate Palm is updating the phone, I am confident that all the issues that have been pointed with the Pre will be rectified.

sent this to Dieter now there's a report that Palm is doing fine.

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10552563/1/tech-rumor-of-the-day-p...

hilariously it's on thestreet.com, Cramer's own site.

This article is from an interview directly w/Sprint CEO:

http://eresearch.fidelity.com/eresearch/goto/evaluate/news/basicNewsStor...

These are just a couple of comments for those that won't read the entire article:

-The top executive of the No. 3 U.S. mobile service said the high-profile Pre's June launch went very well, but initial supply constraints made it harder to declare Pre a big success yet.

-Hesse said in response to a question that Sprint (S), the exclusive U.S. provider for Pre, has NOT SEEN A LOT OF RETURNS of the device from customers who bought it.

From the horse's mouth.

Proof is in the stock. Went from a low of 13.62 today to close at 14.47.. What a tool

Jim Cramer has been a joke since john stewart interviewed him and ripped him a new one.

I think something people are missing about Cramer is that he has an AGENDA. He's not an idiot. He uses real and phony numbers, information and misinformation to accomplish goals for the people who pay him above and under the table to talk up or down particular stocks, which those people stand to make a profit on.