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How To: Dispose of an old Pre or Pixi 72

by Nathan Mylott Fri, 10 Dec 2010 5:43 am EST

palm pre with recycle tag

With the holidays over and new devices coming from Palm next year, there are going to be a lot of homeless Palm Pre and Pixi phones out there. There are probably also a lot of old phones already retired to boxes in the closet and dresser drawers. So how do you dispose of them?

First and foremost, do not ever throw them in the garbage. There are toxic chemicals and heavy metals like mercury in phone components that can seep into the ground water and the public water supply. Being made out of bits like glass, metal, and plastic, they would probably also stay in the landfill until future generations of archaeologists unearth them.

The first thing most people think to do is sell them on Ebay. However it is most likely going to be difficult to sell an outdated, used phone to anyone. Many have an aversion to purchasing used phones, even refurbished devices. Auction sites like Ebay stand to cost you just to find out if there's a buyer, and after factoring in shipping you're looking at more time and money invested than the phone is potentially even worth.

Instead, you could try giving it away to someone who genuinely needs it and there are several ways to do that. Head on past the break to find out how.

Give it away:

First up is Freecycle, in which case you simply give it away to a needy person in your area. You post an offer in the group for your city and in return, you can later post a wanted ad for something you need.

Then there is Listia, which is an auction site but all the items are free-ish. You earn credits for giving things away and then those credits are the currency with which you bid on items you want. You can also just buy the credits. Included with this scenario is also the shipping costs so keep that in mind.

If your old phone is a Wi-Fi enabled smartphone (like every webOS phone but the Sprint Pixi), you could simply use it as a PDA. As long as you are attached to a Wi-Fi network (there are more around than you might suspect), you can do everything with it that you could before, with the exception of placing phone calls. Though, with a Google Voice client like Voogle installed, you could still manage text messages and voicemail. If you are upgrading to a new Palm device, you should keep in mind that you can only have your Palm Profile on one device at a time, so bequeathing your smartphone-turn-Wi-Fi-PDA to a loved one would require a start from scratch either for you or the new owner. That said, there are all sorts of handy uses for the phone off-network: you could give it to a child to use for school work or just to play games, or you could give it to your grandmother to use as a music player (if you have the patience to teach her how to use it).

Give it to charity:

You can also give your old phone to charity. Battered women shelters and senior citizen centers are always willing to accept cell phones for use as emergency phones. This works because even if a cell phone has no associated service plan; by law cell phone carriers are required to carry 9-1-1 calls, even on devices without service.

You could also give it to your child for an emergency phone. This way help is always a phone call away and you will not have to worry about them running up a ridiculous cell phone bill. If it is a phone with a camera, that also allows your child to snap a picture of someone that tries to hurt them. Your child’s school might even have a collection drive to gather old cell phones for charity.

Another worthy charity is Cellphones For Soldiers. They have collection boxes in lots of public buildings. They take the old phones and send them to a company called ReCellular, who recycles them. For every phone collected, ReCellular will donate an hour of prepaid minutes to soldiers serving overseas. Having the chance to talk their families is probably the only way to cope with the separation of long deployments. That seemingly trivial one hour of time is of immeasurable value to the spirits of the men and women who fight for us.

Recycle it:

Aside from giving it away, there are also lots of places online to send your phone for recycling. Many of them will even pay to take your phone. A good place to start might be a new site called SellCell. They partner with recycling companies to get you the best price for your old phone, even if it is broken.

The Environmental Protection Agency has information on recycling centers on its website.

The US Postal Service has a “Mail Back” program which you can use to mail small electronics for recycling with free postage. There are around 1,500 post offices that have free postage paid envelopes for you to mail out things like your old phone, camera, empty inkjet printer cartridges, and more.

Some of the cellular carriers will also give you money back for trading your old phone back in when getting a new one. Check with your carrier to see if they do this and make sure to ask if it is money they send you, credit to your account, or a discount on a future phone purchase.

What to do before it leaves your possession:

Before you get into the giving spirit and send your Pre or Pixi to a new home, there are some things you need to do. You need to securely erase the data it holds. With modern smartphones, chances are there is a lot of personal information in it that is more damaging than your drunk texts, bathroom camera snaps, and fart recordings (don't pretend you haven't). Many users have apps for securely storing passwords, online banking history in the browser, home network settings, and even personal information stored in simple memos for easy reference. And that's not even mentioning all of your contacts and your personal calendar.

The Federal Trade Commission recommends you delete the following information: contacts, call logs, voicemail, text messages, file folders, photos, and web search history. On top of that you may also want to delete your web bookmarks, any audio recordings you may have made, and all of your apps and app data.
To find the best way of deleting all this information, look at your phone’s instruction manual. Since you probably no longer have the manual, you can check the manufacturer’s website for a PDF of the manual. ReCellular has a website set up to provide you specific instructions for your phone on how to securely delete the data.

If you are worried about someone finding the data, you might want to test it before you send it. Let someone else, preferably not someone tech savvy, play around with your phone and see if they stumble upon anything. This blogger has received phones on a warranty exchange that still the former owner's pictures on it; several in the PreCentral forums have shared similar experiences. So even when you believe you have completely deleted everything, you may not have.

Thankfully, Palm made it all sorts of easy to wipe your webOS device. Open the Device Info preferences app, swipe to the bottom and select reset options, and then tap on Full Erase to wipe app apps, settings, data, and personal files. Tada, magically like-new webOS.

So there you have it: your options for taking care of your former device. We know a lot of you are looking at moving on to a new device either now or (hopefully) in the near future, so now you know what you can do with that old Pre or Pixi when the day comes.

72 Comments

Sprint has a buyback program. The Pre used to be worth 100 dollars credit on your account:
https://secure.sprintbuyback.com/

The Pre is now worth $20.16 (better than zero I guess)

You know you can sell it for more as spares...

I did that and recovered my cost of my Pre Plus conversion.

I sold mine for $120 with the touchstone on craigslist 2 months ago.

You should note, that any patches, such as the 'Slide Open to Lock Orientation' will still be installed.

You should Doctor anyway, as it's the most secure form of cleaning out your device.

Its becoming incredibly hard to resist upgrading my phone to something with better hardware. This guide should be handy for many out there. You forgot one thing though: you could meta-doctor it and use it as a ipod touch like device... basically re-purposing it.

Ugh...

That how I'm using mine right now. My phone service is off. I did mention using it as a wifi pda in my post.

I tried to keep mine as a PDA but after I wiped out the device to clear all my data, it would not accept my Palm Profile password because it no longer had Sprint service. Without that, I can't get passed the sign in screen.

What do I do now?

Dispose ??? I'm your better choise. Give me your phone. I will dispose it for you ;)

I have all my old phones. When this one is replaced, it will probably join the others in the retirement drawer.

I have that same drawer - the only phone that won't fit is the Moto bag phone, it's in the closet...

I gave my Pre to my 13 year old son to upgrade form my old Treo 755p. He likes to play angry birds and text his friendson it and he feels really cool to have it.

NPR aired a piece on electronic "recycling" a week ago. It's a really good listen here: http://www.npr.org/2010/12/21/132204954/after-dump-what-happens-to-elect...

My girlfriend is interested in a palm pre + ATT so if anyone out there has one that is in good working order. Please pm me. Shes not rich and a single mom so any charity would be appreciated. Thanks Im posting this in the GSM forum too.

get a job and buy her a new one
i bet she deservs it

Me too.

Enjoyable article, except for the Grandma part... Having my Tenth Grandbaby on the way I think I qualify, and I had so much fun teaching others how to install & use patches.
That said, Thankyou for the info & I'll be passing it along!

That's great I'm glad to hear it! When I worked in a phone store years ago, no one over the age of 20 could figure out how do anything but dial a phone number. My own mother and my grandmother in law can barely plug it in. It frustrates the hell out of me. It's refreshing to see somebody that isn't like that. This stuff isn't complicated. Anyone can handle it. They're just intimidated by new tech I think.

But for the record, I didn't make the grandmother comment.

I think that by the time HP/Plam actually comes out with a phone we'll most likely forget this tip *sigh* lol I seriously hope that I'm wrong =/

When I get another phone eventually (not planned for another year) I will use my Pre as if it is an iPod touch, or a really tiny palmpad.

...will it blend? ;-)

Nice.

I'm holding on to my Pre Plus simply because it will be my test device for the platform. I won't be shelling out a sizable chunk of money on another HP/Palm product until i'm assured i won't go through this hell again.

When; the app store comes up to snuff, there are true high end devices available and i see that they crank out updates regularly like the other 3 or 4 giants...then you can talk to me about trading up.

Gazelle will buy a pristine used Sprint Pre with everything it came with for $40. Or, if it's not worth anything, it will still responsibly recycle it for you.

Is there even such a thing as a pristine used Pre?

Why not? My Pre always lives in it's pouch, has a screen protector, has never been dropped, has no oreo, the original back cover has been sitting in a box since new.. if I peel off the screen protector, clean it off and replace the back cover I'd call it pristine..

But still, Gazelle will give you $34 for a gently used Sprint Pre with only it's charger and battery.

I have an extra line so I will be keeping this as an emergency hotspot. One of the best patches/hack for the palm pre OG.

got a better idea take i for a ride and drop it on the street wait until a bunch of cars pass by on it then call assurion pay 100 they'll send you a refurbish pre tell them you dont like it cause its refurbished and its not working well then they'll let you choose from another brand new phone

Sad to say I had to leave my little pre- behind after the holidays after getting a new Evo. The phone is bad a**. Way faster over same wifi connection.(eventhough I had my pre- overclocked to 1ghz) I well miss the simplicity of webOS but I feel I have waited long enough for a big screened keyboardless(not sure if thats a word) phone. I am loosing a whole lot of paid apps but on the other hand many of the patches I had are native to the OS so that is nice. And the Android market though it's messy to use and navigate there are tons of free apps to replace the ones I had, even though I think webOS had way more games. Not sure if I well be getting the new webOS phone unless it's big, keyboardless and more customizable. I well still be back daily to ready the news. P.S I think it would be funny if someone made precentral app for Android because I looked! :)

is there a precentral app for webos?

There is an unofficial app. It's excellent. It's called Precentral News (unoffical). You can find it here: http://www.precentral.net/precentral-news-unofficial.

You can access the forums in this app but there is an even better app just for the forums, simply called Forums Beta: http://www.precentral.net/forums-beta

Also I gave my older brother my pre- to have because he is still using old flip phone so I know it got a good home. But it's mine should I ever meed it. Like if my evo breaks and for some under holly reason insurance well not cover a new one.

Sell your webos devices in the marketplace on the forums here. There is always a buyer that laughed at the insurance co-payment or developers need a cheap testing phone there.

Trick is it does have to be for the right price... Actually im gonna be in the market for a Sprint Pre very soon, have one that is all cracked up all the sudden :(

ya this site is getting worse and worse, and they are anti sprint and they can't stop blowing verizons dick..haha

You can't blame them. There hasn't been a new release, rumor or phone to talk about. They've been as positive and effective as I can imagine, given the circumstances.

just sold my girlfriends old phone for 120 bucks, selling it on ebay is way better than giving it away! If I can't sell it on ebay I burn along with my old car tires...haha

A lot of Chinese people appreciate webOS devices just like you do. Since the only three carriers here never carry a decent phone (except iphone4),these people have to buy their pres on ebay ,through friends in US, Germany , France```It's ok.These Pres may crash several times a day bcz of the Chinese input . thsese fanboys just run the reinstallation again and again! trust me , if you sell or exchange it with these people, they'll totally agree.just have a look.:) http://aiiwebos.com/ http://www.treo8.com/ss/html/33/forumdisplay-fid-33.html

I'm sure I'm not the only user here who could use a replacement Pre - to hold them over until new hardware is released on Sprint. That translates into more webOS users when the new line of phones is released, and better chance for the coming WebOS revival! We should start a list, after all, we gotta support our own community!

How does customers who already have webOS devices waiting to upgrade translate into "more webOS users when the new line of phones are released"? Doesn't that translate into the same number of users?

stop trying to use logic and stuff. lol.

LOL, sorry. :-)

I commend Precentral for promoting the "responsible" disposal of phones. The devices do have toxic chemicals and should be disposed of properly. But, I resent the implication that the Pre and Pixi are obsolete devices, especially at this website that is supposed to be in support of the WebOS devices. I would have expected the site to be supporting the utility of these devices instead of promoting their obsolescence. Or, maybe the "retail" sales side of this site has been won over by the introduction and sales of other competing phones. Maybe the self-interest of sales at this site is smothering the "help the WebOS users'". I feel like I'm witnessing the burial of the living!

You are kidding, right?

I don't think he is.

My opening line is,"with the holidays over and new Palm devices coming next year." That means people getting new Palm devices so they have an old one. It's not beyond the realm of possibility that somebody could have gotten an unlocked Pre 2 for Christmas or somebody on one of the carriers where it has already been released could've gotten one for Christmas. Nor is it crazy to think that some of us may get the new Palm phones when they come out next year. No phone will ever be good enough to keep forever. It's absurd to think that no one will ever want to replace their Pre or Pixi with something new.

New Palm devices? Where!? Where!? ohhh the Pre 2. The near pointless upgrade. ... meh. I got excited for a thin 3.5" high res screen with dual auto focus camera.
sigh... Although i was going to jump to the EVO I'll keep waiting for the next webos device because I learned this past weekend that Android apps have viruses that will Spam your contacts with viagra email.

No they have a 5 inch no keyboard phone coming. They said they have 5 devices coming out next year. One of course is the Palmpad. Let's just hope it's not the 3 versions of the Palmpad, a Pixi 2 and the Pre 2.

I just sold 5 phones on craigslist 3 Sprint phones sold for 60 and two Verizon phones i sold for 40 so 100 bucks from old outdated phones im happy.As far as my pre goes its been retired as a phone since June but its new job is to jailbreak my ps3 so its not going anywhere its also got some great 3d games on it so its my mini game/media player

I've been follow this site for a long time now. And I think the "topic of discussion" is just a waste of time. We've been hearing that there is another pre/webOS device coming out since the summer. It's all a bunch of bs. I got my pre the day it launched. So I'm basically at 18.5 months with the same f'kn phone. I've had it. I almost jumped ship when the EVO hit the market in the summer. But I've been hanging around, clinging to false hope....just like the rest of you. I love the WebOS but the approach that HPalm is taking to just bad business and it's leading to alot of conflicting stories. You hear, "palm is coming out with other devices in Q1". This may be true. But from what I've seen, it would be a safe bet to think that they will arrive in markets that are outside the U.S. first. Along with that, the thing is probably going to have so many kinks in it that you probably don't want to purchase one for at least 2 months after the release date. By that time they will have or should have worked out the kinks. So this is the way I see it. Sprint (because that's who i'm with) will get a device (phone) at the end of Q1, which will probably be somewhere around March 18. I really think that HPalm is going to attack the tablet arean first. So the first device that they will release will be a tablet on Sprint as well as others that you can just use on Wi-Fi. From a marketing standpoint this is the best route because a nice tablet can draw more attention to your (Palm's) platform than a phone. Too many people were disappointed in the last phone. So they've gotta come out big now. So if the next phone can't compete with the EVO, it's a wrap. Speaking of EVO, I finally jumped ship the other day and upgraded to an EVO. My pre is becoming non-responsive to touch, freezing, screen going dark, and just the normal inconsistancies that go along with it. So instead of paying $99 for a refurbished piece of crap, I gave that $99 to Radio Shack and got an EVO. Hell, there's no telling when a new phone is coming out. Until then I might as well be 4g capable (they are still running the special on www.radioshack.com if any of you have had it too). If HPalm release something that's off the chart, I'll pay the non-contract price for it. But for now, my patience reached an expiration date. Let's see how long it takes for a new device to be release on Spring. I guessing March-May at the eariest. To sum it up, everything i've typed is just to say that the topic for this post is a waste. Ok. I'm off the soapbox. Just kinda tired of the waiting....

WOW. My sentiments EXACTLY. I'm actually on my 4th Pre and It's so decrepit, I ordered an EVO last night from newegg.com for $199 (cancelling NOW and ordering thru Radio Shack. I've had a Pre since launch day. In fact, I purchased 1 for each member in my immediate family. Collectively, we've all been holding out for what seems like an eternity, following HP/Palm news, watching Rubenstein interviews, hoping for SOMETHING SIGNIFICANT. Nothing, just selling us dreams that may or may not become a reality... but we hope. And I'm not sure who to blame, but we were LET DOWN. I mean, they MADE me do it-- I don't even LIKE the EVO. We've moved on to an EVO, 2 Blackberry Styles, a LG dumbphone and 1 Pre is brand new. I will still keep my Pre to try 2.0 when it rolls out, but I'll die if I hold my breath any longer.

I thought I was the only one that was living with this horrible nightmare, wanting t change but not wanting to at the same time. June of 2009 me and my wife got Palm Pre's. We love them and now well we hate the situation they put us in... We have been looking to upgrade and have been holding out on a dream for what seems like way too long. For X-Mas I almost did it, I was in the sprint store and almost got an EVO. Now with your post I couldnt pass it up again. 200 bucks later I now have 2 EVO's on their way. Its Sad really. I used to defend WebOS to everyone I saw. My 2 year old kid knows how to swipe. I am going to miss the OS but not the hardware. If anyone is listening. YOU ARE LOOSING CUSTOMERS. Maybe we will meet again when a tablet comes out.

hpalm & mike singletary should work together, they remind me of each other ! LOUD but cant deliver ! wasted my time/$ on both...

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The first thing most people think to do is sell them on Ebay
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Yes!! And is the BEST option, because the Palm is not selling the Palm and Pixi in all countries!

Here; in Brazil, we no have Web OS option and; if do you go to http://www.palm.com/br/ , do you gonna see our sad reality...

So, it's serious: if someone wanna to sell your old GSM Pre or Pixi, here can be a good option.

I would like to buy and resell here, because if is not good for some places, can to be interesting in other markets...

Best Regards...

O me da um toque se quiser eu tenho 2 CDMA.

Quanto?

Abraços...

An option is to keep it in that drawer, in case the lure of your new phone wears off and you want to return to WebOS.

Article is a bit presumptuous, no?

I love how rumors become fact. How about changing the first line of the article to "...with RUMORED devices coming out next year..."?

But, meh, forget it, P|C is quickly becoming the National Enquirerer of tech sites as almost every article is filled with gossip and rumor.

You really honestly believe HP spent billions of dollars to buy Palm just to cash in on a nearly two year old device? You don't think they'll use webOS in anything new? As for rumors, what else is Palm giving anyone to talk about? I'm open to suggestions if you have them, I always need new things to write about. There's a link at the top of the page to tip a story.

They aren't rumors. HP has outright said there will be 5 new devices in 2011. Just because they haven't announced the specs yet doesn't mean they don't exist. There's good reason to keep things like this under wraps.

I just upgraded to the evo thru radioshack online and I am impressed by how well everything just works like uploading photos and video to facebook, where on the pre it would often fail. 4g is nice when im in nyc. I do miss cards, but the availability and variety of apps on android make up for, it. It was a tough choice to upgrade but I couldn't pass up the 100 dollar price tag. Hope to see a webos device 10x better on sprint by next year so I can switch back. Made by htc, they do make a solid device

I'd be interested in buying and old a pre plus/minus/pixi (except that no-wifi sprint monstrosity) for my girlfriend. It needs to be in remotely good condition, i.e no severe hardware faults. If anyone is willing to help a fellow weboser from a third world conutry PM me, i am would probably pay whatever.

i also want to add that usually my english is better than opera's spellcheck and me watching TV while posting this :)

man I wonder how much longer this site is going to last with the way things have been going?

It doesn't cost anything to find out how much you can sell an item for on ebay.

Log into your account. Search out your device. On the left side of the results, click "Completed listings." If you haven't logged in, it will ask you to log in to see them.

Look at devices in the results most similar to yours. Were they auctions or buy-it-now? Did they sell at all? For how much?

This will work for a Palm device or anything else you're selling. I always use this to get a feel for whether to sell something at all and for how much.

Not find out how much it will sell for, find out IF it will sell.

Here is a tip. Don't get rid of it. Continue to use it as you normally do. It has a great camera. Works great as a podcast catcher. Post to facebook. email. surf the web. With wifi you can (or someone can) do a great deal with it for years to come!

That's how I'm using mine. The only thing I can't do with it is make calls but I have a prepaid phone for that and I don't get many calls anyway. My Pre is with me just as often as it was when I was still using it as a phone.

How do you do all of this without it being activated? Doesn't have to be activated on someone's celluar network?

You can use an application called the MetaDoctor to bypass the activation and use your device without being on a network.

My wife, daughter, and I still use the Pre (minus) and still love them.
I have another orphan Pre from grandson; is there a way to use it as a test machine? I plan to try my hand at developing an app for Pre. I have the SDK, virtual box & everything ready to start installed on PC & if there is a way to USB it to my PC to test on, I would like to try that. Links?
thanks,
GPS