HP can't help but tease after slate leak: "Think again." 100
Tue, 18 Jan 2011 8:05 pm EST
First HP told us to “Think big. Think small. Think beyond.” for their upcoming February 9th event. And while we’re doing just that, we’re also getting some pretty juicy leaks about the slate future of webOS. You know, that whole render thing with a 9-inch Topaz and 7-inch Opal due later in 2011? Yeah, that thing.
Well, HP couldn’t help but drop another teaser in our inbox: “Think you saw the latest on Engadget? Think again.” Considering that the tablets basically fit our expectations for “think big,” this makes sense - there’s still “think small” and “think beyond” to take care of. But that slide with the Opal release dates, it gave us a pretty good idea of what we might be able to expect from “beyond.” Either way, it seems that HP is excited, which in turn is getting us a little excited. 21 days, 18 hours.
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These are the kind of things that make me excited: Palm's great personal relation skills with HP's power.
They can take the time to knock down a rumor but cant take the time (before 2/9) to get out any information?? Hmmm...
LOL. Go HP! Wow no more Go Palm. I can get use to Go HP. I need new Sprint HP hardward.
Well, it still says: "Palm" on the back, and HP seems to have people employed in the Palm division, so I'm not so sure Palm is "no more"
... and, as for the WiFi slate, who cares if ANY carrier sells it or not? if you're not buying a data plan, you don't need to buy it from a carrier. I hope to buy it directly from HP ...screw the carriers and their crappy (and expensive), data plans. I'll go WiFi.
...and my Sprint Pre suddenly will be so much nicer, when synced to a HP/Palm Topaz slate.
I will be first in line to upgrade my Pre if the new smartphone is good.
Tablet, that depends, I need firefox and a fully MS office compatible office suite before I would consider it.
Just in time for my tax refund! :)
that's what I wanted to hear.
Hey HP - I thought about it again but you didn't give me anything additional to think about.
I love this. It just shows that HP gets it and isn't afraid to acknowledge (and engage) the community.
That being said, the tablet renders that hit Engadget today were pretty damn sexy.
exactlyyyyy! whereas apple would be getting their swat-lawyer squad ready to sue the internet. really cool that hp would just brush it off in such a manner.
this leak & their reaction were really the last straws in completely winning me over, the buyout is the best thing that could have happened to palm.
I was doubtful at first, but they seem to be a perfect match.
"I love this. It just shows that HP gets it and isn't afraid to acknowledge (and engage) the community."
How is this bold? If it were "engaging" we would not be getting our information from third party sources. It's cute, it's creative, like a sassy fifth grade girl. Two things I dont want from a company that is terribly behind and falling further behind every day. It would play, if they were on top of their game, but they're becoming the joke of the industry.
Would it kill them to make a deep cycle battery and updated touchstone back? Would it kill them to explain the delays on the announced deliveries?
And I coined the phrase "think again" the day they sent out their invitations, so maybe they are not so creative afterall.
2 things dude:
1. lighten up
2. seriously? get over yourself
LOL, it's cute to see the johnny-come-lately think I'm worked up over this. We've had two years of underperformance, nondeliveries and largely silence and now poems and puzzles are supposed to excite the masses?
Get over yourself, are you King of "a island"?
who's to say HP didn't actually leak the pics themselves! Simmer down man, we're all frustrated & anxious...but at least they are saying something back!
I'd rather them do their own full release than have shared it at CES...
Um.. you coined the phrase "think again" you must be pretty old then.
Your obsession with sassy 5th grade girls disturbs me.
Dude! You're such a buzz-kill. The company actually has a sense of humor! Remember that Apple stuff? C'mmon!
while i do have to agree with the other repliers, i do see your point. and i admire that you're saying exactly how you view it...kudos
so the leaks were in fact true I am guessing from what this statement from HP said...
Or maybe its that the "think again" part meant that the renditions of the slabs were outdated or fake??...hhmm...
my bet is outdated, hopefully the timeline is too
hp isn't dumb. they know how the market works. they will do what apple does (because they know it works) and release very shortly after announcement. im assuming thats why they held off from annoucning at CES becuase they weren't quite ready for launch yet. March is going to b an expensive month for me :D
I suspect it was a well orchestrated PR stunt, they leak it to Engadget, get the press talking about it then 5 hours later get more press by sending out their teaser.
i was just thinkin right along those lines
I'm also waitin for a new device for Sprint. If they don't get something soon, I may be forced to go Android!
LOL, that may be what they mean by "Think again".
people are STILL writing this stuff on this site even after they announced an announcement date of what we have been waiting for for months!?!? dude, we dont care go to android! im getting the next thing from palm. iv waited this long. it be an ass to switch now
easy solution!!! Go to Android now and then return your Android in 29 days when the new WebOS stuff comes out!! I just got an Android a week ago after my 18 month old Sprint Pre quit working and I'm READY to GO BACK on 09FEB!!!
think small=phones
think beyond=cloud services. where ever you are your data is.
i like the way HP/Palm handled this. if it was apple, someone would be calling a lawyer now.
apple : "You're holding the renders wrong."
call me the cynic but cloud services only mean more $ on your bill. Someone's got to store the data and data cost $, so expect your monthly rates to go up using HPalm devices.
that's why you go with sprint(in the US)... or wifi.
now if sprint stops offering WebOS, we're screwed...
Yeah. because that new $10 data tariff on ALL smartphones (not just 4G) really shows "why" you go with Sprint... Uggh.
I think Sprint just hates us. Yeah. That must be it.
Sweet!
Phones, HP, like Q12011 plzkthx.
I'm echoing a couple of folks in saying that I hope Sprint will still be in the picture when it's all said and done.
HP - I now like you.
hahahaha this just put the icing on the cake, I dig hp's attitude, glad to see that palm spirit still alive & kickin
engadget's (somewhat terse) response is priceless
HaHaHa, I Am LOVING The Mind Games! Keep Them Coming!
in line with most other comments, i love this. maybe i will like the HP Palm team up =P . great way of handling the engadget stunt. i am on the edge of my seat, tasting success, and oh does it taste delicious.
i cant wait to see this site explode on feb 9th :) will b a good day my friends
HP --- nice. No doubt your marketing has been well thought out . . . hurry~
Wow! Exciting! They are creating a boat-load of hype. Hope it is backed up!
The message is actually quite straightforward: what you just saw on engadget is a work-in-progress mockup. It's not "the latest", and as such, the final product won't look (100%) like that.
yeah i figured. perhaps the hardware will b mostly like that, but i bet the interface will b quite different. the main perk to webos is that is is easily scalable on many screen sizes. im sure they will make the interface more bigscreen friendly (as in taking advantage of it more). i bet we will beable to fit multiple full-sized cards on the screen an any orientation that we want and move then around... damn its going to b nice. so much for banking my refund check haha
I'm glad to see this!
Off in the distance..
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Can you hear it?
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It's like some sort of..
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buzzing sound..
this is great news, but please god make the Q3 and Q4 rollout rumors be bullshit.
This response is great.
But, if I were a little more cynical, I would suggest that the leak of the Topaz and Opal renders and info was intentional misinformation so as to get some press and then so as to issue this reminder of the event.
Good thing I'm not cynical.
I had the same thought but either way I love this all. Also throwing my two cents in that I hope Sprint is in the mix.
I wonder if HP checks precentral.net as much as we do.. lol
im sure they have a pr/marketing team alllll over the internet. they know what is said here
I hope by think again, HP meant this is an old render. The real thing has a better screen, better cameras, and a non-glossy black finish.
I can't wait to see what is coming in a few weeks!
I thought the whole ''think again'' thing meant it wasn't correct or that the pics were outdated?
no, I think it meant that what you saw on Engadget was not "all there was"....
they will also talk about the "smallest smartphone ever", and, as Steve would say, "one more thing...."
I think HP/Palm leaked everything. This is all part of the PR plan.
Way too much thinking for today.
think small,
think big,
think beyond...
now, think again! :-p
I love it!
GO HPALM GO!!
Looks like I'll be coming back to WebOs this year. I left last year, joing the HTC EVO crowd, and have always kept my eyes on the developments of HP/Palm. Glad to see things are seemingly on the rise.
Im not sure how most peoPle are taking this, but to me its not refering to just more great devices, but, i think they are refering to this being old. Which makes sense as it doesnt look rendered with webos 2.0. I think we should beleive nothing untill the 9th but i know itll be good :)
I think we should believe nothing until the 9th. I 2nd that motion.
Sounds great, but can't help but think about the jab or at least homage to Apple's legendary "Think Different" campaign.
I agree with everyone else saying that I'll be first in line for the new phone and/or tablet if they hit Sprint early.
I hope these things are on sprit for the people sticking with sprint, but i honestly hope tmobile picks up some webos because id love some 4g that works in may area for slighyly less then what sprint will soon be charging without it in my area.
Welcome to the teaser/leak game HP. Now back it up with devices sooner rather than later.
Nice! Damn glad to see HP/Palm getting back into the thick of things. IT'S ABOUT TIME!
deja vu all over again
Palm would successfully keep my interest between now and the 9th if sprint released 2.0
Think Big - 4 inch screen webos phone. Think small - price wise about $199 after rebate. Think beyong - OMG all my favorite apps banks, insurance, school, dvr, my car yes yes yes more more more
I just hope they don't announce something that is phenomenal in February, but not so phenomenal in late Summer or Fall. The Pre had so much hype and momentum and it took 5 months for it to hit the shelves. Technology moves too fast to have a big announcement followed by that much time before actually putting the goods in the hands of your consumer.
Finally!! some concrete info we can work with! im so excited im gunna lose my mind!! im so excited! thank u palm!! thank u hp!! thank u tom cruise!! ahaha
2012 for at&t opal release? isn't the world supposed to come to an end before then?
the world is going to come to an end then BECAUSE so many people are too busy playing with their new hpalms devices that nothing will get done. that, and Blizzard Entertainment is going to be releasing Diablo 3. 2012, the year of zero productivity
Off topic, but I've heard from a couple of comments that there will be a sprint data charge increase. I haven't heard anything about this. Care to elaborate? Is this different from the $10 upcharge for 4G (like the evo)?
Thanks!
If you scroll further down on the front page, you'll see this:
http://www.precentral.net/sprint-adding-10-month-charge-data-new-smartph...
Could it be that all of the Q3 and Q4 launch rumors are just to deter the competition from thinking that HPalm is a real threat?
not hating but that glossy back cover looks like a big 1st gen iphone.
Wait, the first iPhone had a slab of metal on the back, this on the other hand...does not.
How about this:
Think Big- webOS Tablet
Think Small- webOS Watch
Think Beyond- A way to have these 2 communicate with your phone, printer, PC
Anyone remember the patent for a phone that connects to a tablet? How about your watch is the Cellular radio that connects via bluetooth to the tablet, which can handle text messaging? You could connect all three to a Headset. That would allow you to take your watch and headset for portability and keep the tablet for media. I would be all about that.
can't wait!
HP....will....bring....the....ruckus!!!
Feb 2010 show down feat. Todd "Hypeman" Bradley and Jon "Da boss" Rubi...
HP. Settin' things off in O-eleven! :D
Are you sure it isn't:
Think Big -- 9 inch.
Think Small -- 7 inch.
Think Beyond -- who knows...
i'll be honest i'm unlikely to buy another palm phone but i love that at least HP seems ambitious in a way i don't think palm was able to be. Now Palm was ambitious will all it's itunes stuff but in the end it did nothing so maybe it's all bluster but i hope not.
The shiny back looks super scratchable :(
i agree and fingerprint magnet
let the leaking continue...how about a new phone? Let's leak a little of that too by week's end!!
I need a phone and I need it now!! My original pre- is falling apart. It won't last another 2,3 MO.
"That's all folks!"
@YOUR STATEMENT IS VERIFIABLY INCORRECT.
I think what really happened to Steve Jobs was that he had an inside source that told him everything HP was about to release and he passed out realizing the foundation of his empire was about to crumble ;o) jk... get better mr jobs!
This makes my brain smile. I am often pessimistic when it comes to these things, but lately I've become more patient. I am glad that HP will give a day to the people who help make them rich (the consumers)
Our buzz about what Think Big/Small/Beyond means cryptically bounce between us and only gain momentum. We get excited the more we talk about this, and HP gives us bits that feed our fires. When Feb 9th rolls onto us we will be expecting a satisfying climax.
I have tissue ready.
Makes me feel bad for harboring ill thoughts of WebOS' future, but we must all take the good news with a grain of salt (as we've all learned by now).
I still hold on to my prediction of how this year will play out for these corporate giants, generally speaking.
I'm very excited, I love new technologies and new gadgets!
HP = Hooray Palm!
Fantastic communication from HP to the community...that is outstanding.
A webOS watch is such a stupid idea! You all whine we want a seven inch scren, now We want a quarter inch screen that we can wear on our wrists! LOL. That's just stupid. Go get a wristband and put your phone on it. Damn toaster would be more productive than a stuid rinky dinky useless watch.just stupid
useless for you maybe, but for me a tablet is useless, I'd MUCH rather have a watch. It's just a matter of preference..
with a watch you'd have at a glance notifications (without even having to take my phone out), vibration alarm clock, wireless media control, maybe even bt headset support/a2dp, there are just lots of desirable applications. It's not meant to be productive, just convenient & slightly augmentative.
with a tablet the only advantage it has for me is a larger screen than my phone. I've never been a virtual keyboard person, and if I really want to use the internet or watch a video I've already got a convertible netbook and a pandora. I don't really need one more thing with the same functionality that's too big for a pocket to carry around..
having said that - just because I prefer one over the other doesn't mean that I think the other isn't worth it for some or that it shouldn't exist, it's just a matter of what an individual finds useful
yeah a wifi/bt webos watch would b sooo sweet to compliment the phone and/or tablet. it could control the media player, show texts, show notifications and do many other things im sure i cant think of. i just hope it wont b ugly. i doubt it will b cuz i think the pre looks really nice (granted its new cuz it gets the crap scratched outta it)
march is the sweat spot for topaz(9 inch slate). I just think that's a good tome for it to come out.
I think its pretty clear when they said "do you think you saw the latest on Engadget? Think again".
That information is outdated, some or all of it.
It could be that the leaked PalmPad renderings were preliminary versions from last year, or that the release dates were wrong, or the specs were preliminary and have been updated, or...
All of the above.
What I do know is that HP Palm are certainly teasing us because they feel that what they are about to do will really change things.
FWIW, I'm really of the mind that they deliberately leaked the renderings, just to keep our anticipation high - and that they have been listening, even saw our Mockup contest, and know what we are all looking for.
IMHO, of course!
i completely agree. HP is on TOP of what we are talking about on here. they would b foolish to not take into consideration what we say.
Dude, can't wait on the topaz. That dishwasher app is gonna rock on a screen that size!....
Anyway, lets see what the phones do. For my cash sprint has to be dealt in (if sprint even wants in........)
I'm glad to hear this. Hopefully that render was just a joke. I dont think it would have done well.
Hmm. "Think Again" is a trademarked term. Trademarked by Schafer Condon Carter, Inc of Illinois.
The bar:
Atrix 4G
http://www.engadget.com/2011/01/28/motorola-lifts-our-spirits-with-new-a...
Beat it. Otherwise go home.