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by Derek Kessler Fri, 29 Jun 2012 1:22 pm EDT

HP going with Intel for first Windows 8 tablet

HP's getting back into the tablet game, albeit somewhat tepidly after the debacle of the TouchPad launch and cancellation and Microsoft's recent unveiling of their own Surface tablets. The news comes today that HP's planning to move forward with at least one Windows 8 tablet, though they'll be going with their long-time processor partner Intel for the tablet instead the mobile-oriented ARM chips.

We wondered earlier this month when Microsoft unveiled Surface what affect that would have on their OEM partners, and if SemiAccurate is, well, accurate, it seems that Surface might be making those OEMs nervous. HP, Microsoft's single biggest customer, apparently has decided against producing an ARM-based Windows RT tablet in protest of both Surface and the licensing charges Microsoft wants in exchange for the slightly-hamstrung version of the Windows OS. Of course, it's also worth noting that HP burned some bridges with ARM partners after their cancellation of the TouchPad and Pre3 - both ran ARM chips from Qualcomm.

HP told The Verge that their plans for going with Intel chips thanks to feedback from customers: "The decision to go with x86 was influenced by input from our customers. The robust and established ecosystem of x86 applications provides the best customer experience at this time and in the immediate future." With HP being a huge enterprise provider, we're not surprised at all by the decision to go Intel-first, and ARM-later-maybe. But we also won't be surprised to see Microsoft pushing hard to get the ARM-happy Windows RT onto more devices moving forward.

How does this matter to us at webOS Nation? Really, it doesn't matter what HP decides to go with for their tablets, as the Linux Standard Kernel that's going to be used in Open webOS will run on all variety of hardware, including x86- and ARM-based chipsets. When exactly we can expect to see those tablets, well, that's still up in the air.

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Great...good luck to you HP....you will need it...

I would really look forward to an AMD fusion tablet using something cost effective like the e2-1800.

Great battery and could be around $400 like the dm1z.

One tablet with the choice of either windows 8, linux, or an x86 webOS? Add to cart!

I read though that part of the requirements MS is putting on its partners making Windows 8 tablets is the bootloader has to be locked down so you can't put another OS on it...

No, what Microsoft is doing is requiring something called Secure Boot on ARM-based Windows RT devices: in order to install other operating systems, the other OS must have an SSL certificate.

What has me puzzling is do we think HP might rethink it's tablet choices since the announcement of the surfaces? Sounds like they are not to pleased with M$'s plans for RT and those tablets. I would hope that someone at HP is seriously trying to resurrect WebOS. I know I know but I can hope.

"IN PROTEST of both Surface and the licensing charges Microsoft "

Just a journalistic point. I know this is a fan site and you report all kinds of junk but i just have to point out that that line, that it's in protest very well may be true but right now it's just rumor. That's an explanation of why they won't produce ARM tablets. But even the SemiAccurate site labels this a "rumor." And coming the site is called only "semiaccurate." How can you expect them to be fully accurate. But i wouldn't jump to conclusions just yet based on the way this is written. It's like a rumor three or four people removed. I'd take it for what it is which is not verified.

Actually, SnotBoogie has a great point.

Publically, HP is saying that is not the case:

http://news.cnet.com/8301-10805_3-57464000-75/hp-wont-offer-an-arm-based...

HP: Hmm, Windows RT gives us the option to produce ARM tablets, assuming Apple lets us have parts again.

Intel: Hey, HP, you know those Itaniums your enterprise business depends on, that we wanted to dump?

HP: Yeah?

Intel: Make a Windows RT tablet, and those might become "too expensive to continue to produce at current rates". It'd be a shame if something happened to that production, wouldn't it?

HP: Introducing the HP Slate 8, running on Intel x86 processors!

I'd say that the comment from Charlie in the article about "Microsoft strong arming of Palm's demise, and other things we can't talk about" was probably the most interesting part of the article, and someone really needs to get him to talk about that.
Ray Lane - HP's Chairman of the Board - wants to use Google for tablets. Not surprisingly Microsoft was upset with WebOS. Now, not surpisingly MS is making their own phones and tablets.
What a debacle. Like an all time one of the great tech level debalcles.

Hmm....I wonder how well Open webOS would run on those Intel based HP tablets, since it's going to be using the standard Linux kernel?

So I say we hack the heck out of whatever table HP comes out with with webOS just for kicks and a backhand smack on HP!!

+ 1, 2 and 3 here!

Sorry, repeated. ;-)

Hum! Again?! That's rare... I promise I haven't done this on purpose. Don't know why it keeps "re-commenting" itself again and again.

What's wrong with this?! Each time I enter the article, a new "+ 1, 2 and 3 here!" comment appears again! Darn it! Sorry guys. :'(

hey if HP can make money it just helps them support they foster child webOS

just saying

HP struggles to make money on original hardware. Their profits come from enterprise software and gouging us on ink and toner refills.

here we go again, its dumb management going to put out another tablet that will compete with a OS ur trying to bring back. That means people will invest an I say a few very will buy it an accessoies. You think people gonna trust hp again with a different tablet..NOPEJ just wait til you get open webos complete then support it, reconnect with ur burnt bridges show ur behind webOS then build a tablet with ur own os. You have the base people out there ol webOS users are here an dropper would come. Just wish you would stick to it...

here we go again, its dumb management going to put out another tablet that will compete with a OS ur trying to bring back. That means people will invest an I say a few very will buy it an accessoies. You think people gonna trust hp again with a different tablet..NOPEJ just wait til you get open webos complete then support it, reconnect with ur burnt bridges show ur behind webOS then build a tablet with ur own os. You have the base people out there ol webOS users are here an dropper would come. Just wish you would stick to it...

I might be a bit off, but here's a strategy for HP: Windows 8 Slate tablets on Intel to satisfy MS and those liking legacy apps, and ARM TouchPads that run webOS Community Edition and Open webOS, with some Open Mobile tossed in for access to Android apps. The TouchPad now becomes Hewlett-Packard's very own "Nexus" tablet. And Slates become whatever enterprise or other MS-loving customer likes. A flexible TouchPad for consumers, and a rigid Slaye for the enterprise. If the products happen to compete with each other, so what. HP makes $ either way. And BTW, HP should also give a proper intro to an Open Mobile/Open webOS-powered TouchPad Go and Pre brick phone w/o physical keyboard.