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HP launches "webOS Certified Developers Program" to promote talent 13

by Jonathan I Ezor#IM Mon, 08 Aug 2011 7:08 am EDT

As a follow-up to the tiered webOS developer program we reported on last month, which focused largely on the relationship between developers and the Developer Relations team, HP also announced its "webOS Certified Developers Program." This initiative is designed to help developers market themselves to potential consumers of their services. As the description states:

"HP is significantly expanding its third-party developer program by offering certification to developers who would like to make their services available to firms looking for webOS development expertise. Developers will initially be certified on the basis of quantity and quality of apps developed, as well as relevant experience and training."

As with the overall developer program, developers can qualify for different levels of certification (regular or "Gold") based upon the number of "qualifying" apps in the Catalog, development experience, completing formal webOS or similar developer training and submitting and executing a "webOS business plan." Certification brings with it a number of specific benefits:

"Certified developers will enjoy significant promotional and referral opportunities from HP, helping to expand their webOS markets. Certified developers will be listed on the "Third Party Developers" page on the Developer Portal and receive "webOS Certified Developer" graphic assets for use in marketing. Depending on certification level, developers may also enjoy priority support access and a highlight page on the Developer Portal."

The complete details can be found in the webOS Developer Center.

This new effort could give the many solo or small group webOS developers an entry (with HP's blessing and recommendation) into projects for larger companies which want to add webOS to their offerings but would find it more expensive to train or hire someone internally. It also nicely complements HP's own development assistance "SWAT teams" that Richard Kerris mentioned in his interview with PreCentral. We are very interested in seeing how this evolves, and in learning whether and how certification makes a real difference for the webOS developer community.



They should really stop making number of apps a requirement for these things.

Yes. It can take more effort to make one incredible app than to make 10 mediocre ones.


Our shop looks at one thing, and one thing only, when it comes to supporting other platforms.

That one thing is "Are our clients requesting support for said platform."

The number of apps we've done on a single platform is not nearly as important to our clients as the number of apps we've done in general.

Still, you can't fault HP for making this contingent upon the number of webOS apps a developer has since the main point is to grow the app catalog.

Well, they have to have some measure of how well you know Mojo and Enyo. Number of apps on Android or iOS mean nothing for that measure.

Except clients aren't targeting webOS for the most part. They come to us for "mobile apps" and want to see our portfolio. They then choose how many platforms they want the app on based on their needs and the cost per platform.

Like I said, I don't really fault them for trying to grow the webOS catalog. Just pointing out the reality beyond webOS (from one development shop's perspective).

You understand that this is a WebOS Certification, right? How can you be certified in WebOS if YOU HAVEN'T MADE ANYTHING IN WEBOS?

My post is calling into question the usefulness of a webOS-only certification in a world that does not yet recognize webOS. Surely you see that.

I've also stated in both my previous posts that this is not a bad thing "as it relates to webOS specifically" but that it currently does not matter beyond webOS. In other words, I question whether it will do what webOS badly needs right now -- attract a high number of developers.

"My post is calling into question the usefulness of a webOS-only certification in a world that does not yet recognize webOS. "

...exactly! Wouldn't you like to certify as Certified Ion Beam Thruster Operator? Would be cool, huh? Trouble is, the demand for this skill would be on par with demand for webOS Certified Developers, UNTIL HP manages to increase their mindshare. So the right order is, FIRST, focus on increasing mindshare, SECOND, focus on stabilizing your ecosystem with certifications, Gold Partners etc. NOT the other way around!

HP, why you need to do EVERYTHING backwards? You don't believe in cause-effect, or what?

They can easily do that by padding the numbers with f-a-r-t (wow, censors are a little weird) apps or AppBookShop apps. To me, this just encourages developers to write for quantity instead of quality. Then, instead of iOS-quality apps we'll be stuck with Android-quality apps.

"(...)for larger companies which WANT TO ADD WEBOS TO THEIR offerings but (...)"
Emphasis mine. Need not to comment anything more on that.

HP, you are soooooo Enterprise in all your webOS efforts, yet blundering sooo blindly around, as a wounded rhino...

Haven't you noticed, that Apple is anything BUT Enterprise, yet enterprises are begging them in line to show some more Enterprise love? It is called outside pressure on IT departments...

I was trying to extort some _inside_ pressure in my IT department regarding webOS, when I have seen it really fit to our business/support case: a monitoring/dashboard type of mobile application.

You know what reaction did I get from all my colleagues/bosses, after lecturing them about advantages that webOS would have for us in this case?

"webOS? webOS? HP? TouchPad? Right, that is indeed very interesting what you are saying about the system and HP's full commitment to it. Now, going back to iPad/iOS (which, by the way, we know is faaar from perfect, but alas, nothing IS perfect...) (...)"

You just aren't taken into consideration. With webOS, you are just a non-player in professional IT circles/tech geeks, currently.

You can't fight that with "certified developer" programs (for crying out loud, you need to establish some presence first, generate SOME interest and confidence, and create an impression, that you really ARE in it for a long haul (just repeating it does not work, especially when you have a track record of broken promises or talking irrelevant nonsense), otherwise - who'd bother getting through your certification programs? Developers, who'd never been asked by anyone, to develop for webOS, or maybe customers, who don't give a **** about webOS in general, let alone "webOS certified"? For customers (enterprise), certification programs are interesting only when there ARE customers interested in hiring developers with proven skills (like Microsoft certification programs/Golden Partners etc., you should know a thing or two about it). So, that would work for Apple/Google, because those ARE the platforms that customers actually WANT their applications to be created for.
For developers, it is only interesting when they want to stand out from the crowds of other "guns for hire", that are shooting an app after an app for your platform of choice. But this is not the case either. Simply because NO ONE is asking NOBODY: "can you develop my company's webOS application? Where can I find professionals that would deliver, or that I can at least talk to?". And it is, because you have ZERO mindshare with webOS, as it is (and decreasing). And yet again, you are trying to approach this problem from completely wrong angle (we have quite explicit saying in my home country, depicting this kind of approach: "you are approaching it from arse's side"), wasting time, resources, and proving to the world AGAIN, that you don't have a clue how to steer webOS clear off the rocks it is currently sitting firmly on.

You can't fight it by releasing marginally interesting hardware (Veer, TP), and God forbid, overpricing it dearly. You can't fight it by delaying the only hardware that people are actually BEGGING you for: Pre 3. You can't fight it without creating buzz, excitement in the tech/gadget industry - and you will NOT create a buzz without going full-on, and releasing some monster hardware. You can't fight it with your "soft launches", paired with half-baked software - negative reviews are in the wild, and how many reviewers you think will bother to update their initial damning reviews with the "latest OTA update goodies & achievements?" (I'll tell you, how many: two - Precentral & webOS Roundup). You can't make it pricing your half - **** hardware, running half - **** software on par with the market leader, or above runner-ups, and then playing some cat & mouse game with "discount firesales"

And finally, you can't make it moving slowly as molasses, with your ever self-content attitude, and constantly talking high (& mostly nonsense)

But whatever.

I can't remember the last time I bought or downloaded an app. Not investing deeper into webOS until I know that I can get a new phone on Sprint.

Actually, scratch that. Not buying more apps period. Once my upgrade is available, 1 Sept, I am moving on to Android. Probably, the SGSII or wait for Nexus Prime, both of which should be coming to Sprint.

cool story bro

Android Central link is up top.