HP Movie Store now available for the TouchPad 96
by Tim Stiffler-Dean Tue, 19 Jul 2011 11:21 pm EDT
Yesterday we got the Amazon Kindle Beta app for the TouchPad, and today HP has released an update to the HP Movie Store (partnered with RoxioNow) for US TouchPad owners through the Software Manager. On first look the app seems to hold most of the features that we would want in a cloud-based movie store, but we'll be giving you our full review sometime in the next day. For now, you can check out the app for yourself through the HP webOS App Catalog for free and let us know what you think about it in the comments below.
Once again, HP is building up our excitement and their momentum by releasing updates to these highly-anticipated apps and features in a quick manner. What will we see next?
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music wednesday, ota thursday?
Nice, gonna go check it out now!!
Actually there's the last.fm app that no one has mentioned at all. And its pretty nice on the touchPad.
Yeah i noticed that last night. Maybe somebody will see these comments and bust out a review.
Nice - I/ve been playing around with it for a while. The selection seems a bit thin. Hopefully Roxio/HP can provide more titles fairly quick. Good to see some progress though.
We got books, movies. Now I hope, WISH that HP brings Music synergy partner with Amazon Cloud Music or Google Music. That would be great.
Agreed...a solid cloud music service, plus the promised document editing update, would just make the Touchpad complete.
and at least one remote desktop/vnc application other than the citrix receiver as I don't have the money to purchase just for me laying around the house playing ultima.
Go talk to the nice folks at LogMeIn!
https://secure.logmein.com/contactus/
I'd pay for a document editor. I think I paid $35.00 for docks to go on my beloved Treo 650... sigh, I do miss the ruggedness of the old Treo.
Take that complainers!
Sadly, the complainers are going to look far and wide for some kind of bug and say it was "rushed" or something. Then more will chime in and draw the conversation back to the Kindle app in Beta form, then move to document editing complaints etc. You get the point I'm sure! I say keep working hard HP and don't give up. Bring webOS to the forefront where it truly belongs!
people have really just started looking for things to complain about with webOS, and this can sometimes give the OS a bad rap. i sincerely believe that most of these complainers still love webOS and are simply trying to justify their move to another OS by being bitter and constantly looking for faults with webOS.
So pathetic. You guys complain when people are being "negative" about WebOS on an article, then when no one is negative...you bait them to come in thereby making you complain more.
A crazy idea. Why not celebrate the good news of this article and comment on Tim's work....you know, what the COMMENTS section is actually for?
what i find more pathetic are those who troll the forums on a webOS site jumping at the first opportunity to berate the platform in any way possible. ring a bell?
So much better to troll the front pages and berate people, I guess? That's "positivity" for you.
Just a bit of advice for the future: If you spend your time talking about arguments and "trolls" rather than WebOS.....THE TROLLS WON.
Everyone, please, shut the **** up. Yes people are going to complain. Yes people are going to be fanboys.
Guess what? My WebOS is still my WebOS with or without them.
here you go, quoting twitter: Hmm: "com.palm.app.moviestore: PdkPlayer Log: Error : Failed to connect stream: Too large" - can't play the downloaded 2h51m movie.
So, you can watch some movies now....can you edit documents?
Built for the enterprise -- yeah, my company wants me watching movies and not editing documents.
http://twitter.com/#!/backlon
Dieter Bohn -
"HP Moviestore on TouchPad is actually Roxio; requires a separate username/password from your Palm u/p. Heckuva unified ecosystem there, HP"
I hate it when complainers are from people whose opinion i actually care about...
awesome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
danm i need to go get the touchpad already. next month:)
Don't Bother....
Why shouldn't he bother? I really love mine.
Oh HP. You will never learn. You finally release the HP Movie Store when it was promised at launch. And now the selections are limited, there are a few bugs, and the prices are too similar to Apples iTunes. This app feels rushed, you should have released it when it was fully baked... The Pre got a Spotify on launch day but there isn't one for buggy HP TouchPad that I don't own... What happened to the Hard Launch? Where's that big push? I see advertisements at stores, mailers in my inbox, emails from Amazon, bestbuy and other retailers but the TouchPad's prices have been cut so your sales are probably struggling. I've been a loyal webOS customer for the last 2yrs and all you can give me is $50 off a 32gb TouchPad that I can get for the price of a 16gb TouchPad. You call that making it right? Please.
/sarcasm
they like to make it "right" in your buttocks
/s
Good for HP. Seriously. Have no idea what the selection is like, but it's a small step in the right direction.
No doubt, its borderline impressive. If they make this a competitive alternate to netflix they may be onto some thing huge
They wouldn't have anything to do with that, hence it being powered by RoxioNow. They seem to just offer a lot of what Amazon already does. It IS, however, a small piece of what will hopefully become a large puzzle of content offered someday.
What are the prices for some of the movies? HTC's Watch service is cool but with a lot of the newer movies at $14 I think it's overpriced. Granted some 'older' films are 9 bucks but for me the value just isn't there.
It's hard to tell since every movies seems to be different but 2012: Ice Age is $15.95. The quality looks pretty good though.
One item free please! So we can check it out???
Needs search by price and Account setting for Rating limits.
There are free items in there. Not whole movies, but behind the scenes, etc...
Search on "little fockers" and you will find some.
And yet once again.... NOT FOR CANADIANS.
Nit sure what we did to get ignored like this but it's starting to piss me off.
I want to DL pandora and lastFM and I have absolutely no way to get them.
doesn't seem to be available in the UK yet either :( shame.
that aside, good move HP. haven't seen the selection or used the app but it's good news and a step in the right direction.
While I agree this sucks, we won't see anything for awhile. Its not HP's fault for not giving us the app, its the stupid CRTC. They control all media that is coming into Canada....this also includes Pandora! Why do you think it took so long for Netflix to come into Canada?
Now i'm not saying it won't come, but you'll have to have patience....a lot of it!!
Yes you do. Check out Impostah by webOSinternals!
Doesnt work with either kindle or this :(
Edit: impostah updated for enyo, now they work fine!
I am curous as to what the movie store offers? Will digital copies be unlockable on it now? Does it stream video? i want a touchpad very badly, however even when i can afford one i am skeptical of selling my ipad for it because I'll already be loosing lots of apps I like, but the core use i use my ipad for is watching movies on netflix when im inbetween classes for a couple hours, or other similar instances. Movies are like the big determining factor for webos. WebOS is very cloud oriented and I really would like to see a streaming service or something. I do realize coding is hard and it takes time so not bashing webos at all. I'd have no reason to be here if i did :) but I do love webos just need the ability to stream movies, and amazon movies will not suffice because i'm not paying for it. (students can't watch for free anymore if they ever could at all) i'd really like netflix or atleast a morre universally accepted digital store. not one that is limited to basically working on whatever you download it on like the many others. so looking forward to hearing the review.
A student here as well who is really looking for a more universal cloud streaming source for movies and tv (because we rarely can watch things when they air anymore) on mobile devices like netflix.
Course, I'm still waiting for a tablet with a stylus and Office OneNote, sooo...
Roxio probably has geo restrictions. I'm in Puerto Rico and I'm only seeing eight movies, most of them from the seventies, and under the TV tab I get:
"TV Shows are currently unavailable.
Please try again later."
The app seems pretty solid. The selection seems a little slim but I'm not sure how the Roxio service works (looks like they have partners who rebrand the service - not sure whether all partners have the same selection). This one here looks like it may have more selection based on a few quick searches. http://alphaline.roxionow.com/
Anyway, good start on HP's part. Hopefully, the movie selection will be expanded and this will help increase TouchPad sales (at least not prevent them), which is the only thing that will ultimately goad other services to get on board (Amazon, Netflix) and release dedicated apps for the webOS platform. In case folks are wondering, Amazon video on-demand works fine in a web browser window, by the way, so there is already one major cloud video service available.
It appears the videos in the HP Movie/RoxioNow service are completely downloaded to the TouchPad for offline viewing, which is a nice feature. Not clear to yet how if/when/how they are deleted (to free up space).
@Thor e
OMG!! you're a canadian and are complaining?? in mexico there's absolutely NO touchpad presence on ANY store!! and yes, we are as close to USA as you, and still no Touchpad notice on both major carriers (Telcel and IUSACell)...
It's weird because other HP pda's (rx3715 a marvel, rx3115, etc) and cellphones (mobile messeneger et al.) have been sold here with good results... (AFAIK)...
Love that new Apps are coming, and that they are wide ranging (movies, music, books etc), now if HP can get the PC WebOS software out with the ability to pickup streamed video/audio (for movies, phone calls etc), that works both ways to and from the touchpad/pre 3, that would be something to shout about (especially for all those missing HDMi)! Even better, make WebOS on the PC, remote control friendly (maybe by using a pre phone), you could have a fully integrated, mobile PVTV setup with WebOS interface that walks over all over AppleTV etc. Oh yeah, and you read it here first, if someone sends me a TouchPad, I'll forget it's my idea!
Neither Kindle nor HP Movie Store available from the App Catalog in France yet.
Are we really doing a virtual victory dance over being able to watch a movie on a pad? Good for you. (golf clap) Is it that much of a shock that HP finally delivered a standard feature that doesn't immediately suck? How is the selection and pricing compared to the competition. Will the service attract customers over what is already available elsewhere? If so, congrats. If not, what exactly is the big deal?
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sick of this guy!!!
Grats on putting the D I C K in INSON.
LOL
It is the name I was born with, but it's always been and easy target and good for a laugh or two!
I take it back, especially after reading your later response.
Dickinson is a great name btw, just type in "The Bruce Dickinson" on Google. The greatest SNL skit ever!
Funny how the major apps we're hearing about are oriented around entertainment. If HP wants to position webOS & the TouchPad for the enterprise market they need to get some business apps out there.
Personally, I'm still holding off on my TP purchase until document editing & remote desktop software is available.
I'm not knocking the availability of the movie store or Kindle apps; it's great they're here and indicate a good chance at a bright future for webOS. I'm just saying that the available apps don't yet justify a sale to me or to businesses.
They need to get the Citrix app fixed since it's useless as it is.
Citrix is not of much interest. RDP or VNC are far more useful as small businesses and even home users can take advantage of them. Citrix also seems to be falling out of favor in the enterprise market as the licensing is expensive.
My reason for wanted RDP is personal, not professional. I want to be able to access my personal desktop PC via the pad. VNC would be good since it supports many platforms but RDP is best for me personally since there's no software to add to Windows.
As Windows Server starts to handle things that previously required Citrix, it becomes hard to justify, also web apps are starting to really replace convential rich clients and make citrix less appealing compared to a much less expensive firewall/access solution
Box.net for cloud stooge and Roxio for movie streaming? Everyone else uses Netflix and Dropbox.
"Like Nothing Else" indeed.
A free 50GB of cloud storage for both your TouchPad and anything else is pretty cool. You're a troll.
Kill it with the "troll" labels. The 50GB is not box.net, and Box.net is not Dropbox (kind of the defacto standard for now). That his point, and it's a legitimate one.
And while I do applaud HP for getting SOMETHING on the video content front, they neither own the service, nor is it particularly well-priced or robust with titles right now. It's not trolling to make note of this.
Normally, I'd agree w/you, but when the poster is one who NEVER says anything positive or even acknowledges a step in the right direction (as you did), then I understand why people call it trolling. There is a way to offer constructive criticism & there is a way to just attempt to tear down--there is a difference, IMO.
Why does any of that matter when he's making a legitimate point?
Discuss the issues/content, not the people. Trying to "shoot the messenger" is a telltale sign that he's RIGHT because otherwise you'd merely debunk or dispute what he is saying.
mikah912 and untidyguy,
Dropbox is NOT a legitimate point, it's a rubbish, uninformed point driven by the need to be negative for nothing.
HP TouchPad doesn't have a Dropbox app, it has something even better. webOS Synergy. You can have 3 or 4 Dropbox accounts active on a TouchPad, all you need to do is log in and add them. This is something impossible to do natively on a PC or Mac, let alone the blessed iPad.
Netflix is coming, it will take some time, but it is coming to webOS.
Dropbox synergy is great, however, the 50GB do not APPLY to that, so his point IS legitimate.
And as for Netflix...
First, when?
Second, what does that have to do with the HP Movie Store lacking NOW?
How can free 50gb of online storage be anything other than positive?
50GB of online storage is a throw-away offer and a bluff. They know, very well, that 99% of all users will never need anywhere near that much storage so they can offer whatever size they want. I'm sure they would have offered free unlimited storage if their lawyers would have allowed them to do so. My guess is that HP was given a deal to offer this service for nothing at all in return for the promotional value.
Ok, so 50 gb of online storage is a bad thing as most people wont use that much?
Yes its a promotional thing, but whats wrong with that?
and what is your point? 50GB is a great offer for the consumer. The point that no one will use that much is not even a point.
So what if you only use 20GB of that space?
If there was no box.net, you would be complaining. If the box.net deal was for 10GB....complain....if for 50GB for 3 months....complain.....50 GB for life and you still complain.
mikah912 and UntidyGuy,
Dropbox doesn't need an app to work on webOS 3.0, it's built into Synergy, and the HP implementation is better than Apple's, because you can have multiple Dropbox accounts linked to one machine.
Android tablets have had Netflix for about 2 months now and not all of them do. Netflix will come to webOS.
Stop being negative for the sake of negativity then claiming that people are shooting the messenger.
Why complain? if 'everybody else' uses those, then buy another tablet.
No one is stopping you, whats the point of your comment?
Dropbox is not enterprise ready. What enterprise wants unencrypted data transmission and then encryption on server where a 3rd party holds the encryption keys?
I don't want that even for myself let alone any business data.
"Encryption for storage is applied after files are uploaded, and we manage the encryption keys."
from https://www.dropbox.com/security
I think HP should be given a big pat on the back so far for finally waking up and hitting deadlines. I know palm was way off on a lot of things but none of us know what truly is going on, we just hear rumors and half truths.
I for one and very pumped that HP said spring for the veer, i got the veer april in sprint (and love the device), they said summer for the touchpad, heck got the touchpad before the main swing of summer (4th of july) even started.
This month they said kindle, movie store and music store, even said the dates according to some leaks and they were all spot on. Got the kindle on the 18th, got the movie store as well last night.
They said the update will push by the end of the month, that date is coming soon. I know the titles and content might be limited a tad for the movie store, but i think they just had to get it out there first. I think that is a huge accomplishment. Now we can worry about new titles coming in which they surely will.
If HP pushes out the update before the end of the month, and gets that music store/music synergy going then im back on the kool aid hardcore and will believe anything they tell me. HP i will dump all my money into you continously without question for another year if you deliver the goods Aug 1st.
look at the movies on the picture... are those really the best movies in the catalog??? God I hope not, I think I would be happier without the app if that's the case
I think the Enterprise line was just to save face. Eliminating a rear facing camera for a Enterprise hungry tablet is so odd, but they did it. That alone eliminated our offices from purchasing them, and I was pushing hard for them to wait for the TP. As of now, they don't look like they will buy any tablets until the next generation comes to market.
I've seen some more positive reviews lately, and with the Apps showing up, maybe the TP will get a little bounce.
I downloaded the new app last night. Prices vary greatly. Most movies are rentable but some are for purchase only.
For movies that provide a trailer, the quality was excellent. I think trailers are streamed because it started playing almost instantly.
The movies themselves are downloaded to the TouchPad first. A 1.5 hr movie took 20 minutes over my 10Mbps home WiFi.
It was too late for me to start watching it, so I didn't actually play it. I didn't want the 24 hour rental time period to start. You have 30 days to start watching. After 30 days I don't know if they refund your money if unwatched or not.
I would assume either way (not watching after 30 days or 24 hours after playback starts) it would get deleted off the TouchPad so as not to take up space.
App looks nice and seems to work well, although I haven't actually tried buying anything from it yet. I'm definitely glad HP got this up and running as it does add a plus to the overall capabilities of the TouchPad.
Right now, the selection is definitely thinner than I expected, though. It looks like they only have made deals with Warner Bros and Universal so far. I don't see any titles from Fox, Disney, Paramount, Sony, MGM, or Dreamworks at this point. Hopefully HP is hard at work getting licensing deals in place with those other major studios.
I also hope they can take another look at the TV show pricing. It isn't bad if you just want to watch an individual episode (such as catching up with a show you missed seeing over the air), but they should offer some discounts on full seasons. Right now, a full season of a show would generally run $40+ which, in most cases, will be quite a bit more than just buying the DVDs.
Lots of **** Doo to entertain my kids!
Would expect the selection to get better soon. WebOS is getting better and better. Love my TouchPad and was very happt with the movie performance after download and the streaming of the trailers.
Just a point of clarification. This is RoxioNow's store, not HP. The selection will likely not be expanding much beyond new releases as they appear.
Roxio obvious provides the back-end and, most likely, handles the commerce portion of the site, but I suspect that HP is likely at least involved in the securing of rights. If you look at Best Buy's Roxio-powered CinemaNow site, it has a lot of titles that aren't available on HP's site, including many from Fox, Sony, and Paramount.
Thanks for the info. I wonder, however, if the difference has to do with them needing extra licenses to stream the content on a portable device, as opposed to just streaming on the Web. Kind of like how Hulu and Hulu Plus have very different catalogs, despite being run by the same company.
One would hope that this is a Roxio service with HP branding, only. I doubt that HP is going to be that much involved in securing distribution rights for movies. Like any purchasing channel, the best prices and selection are going to go to the market leaders like iTunes, Netflix, and Amazon. Who is HP in the content distribution business?
Let me give you a few predictions on where this is going. Apple decided to get in the content distribution business with iTunes: it changed the industry. Given Apple's 10 year head start with music (and soon after videos), HP is not going to get close to matching iTunes. But they are going to try to get something together for their customers, like Microsoft did with the Zune (failure, though a very nice service) and Google is trying as well (failure, but not a bad service). It has been reported in the news that HP is in early discussions with record labels, for example.
Prediciton 1:
1) HP is considering getting into the TV/settop business with a WebOS powered TV and/or settop box. I expect that this is one of the new products that HP has up its sleeves and may be released before we expect it. They already buy lots of LCD's and brand them as HP monitors (like Apple). Selling TV's with WebOS software built in, with a music store and a movie store (as well as Netflix), puts them into the TV consumer space, as space that Apple has desperately been trying to break into and failing (Apple TV is a terrible product). It is one of Apple's few repeated failures recently.
2) HP sells Windows PC's with touchscreens with some success. HP could offer these windows touchcreen computers with WebOS built into the monitor/touchscreen. The consumer could simply turn on the monitor which would fire up the plugged in and always powered WebOS and use the keyboard or just the touchscreen for their WebOS needs/desires. If they hit the windows button, the touchcreen/monitor changes the input to the windows computer and it becomes a windows touchscreen. One button push changes the input back to webos - still running in the background, just where you left it.
If they do this, you can see where having content to distribute becomes important. Apple realizes this and so does HP.
It is a benefit of having an integrated system like Apple. They could do this on laptops too.
mikah912 and UntidyGuy,
Dropbox doesn't need an app to work on webOS 3.0, it's built into Synergy, and the HP implementation is better than Apple's, because you can have multiple Dropbox accounts linked to one machine.
Android tablets have had Netflix for about 2 months now and not all of them do. Netflix will come to webOS.
Stop being negative for the sake of negativity then claiming that people are shooting the messenger.
It's like deja vu all over again.
...So are most of your posts. I never learn anything new from what you write.
You should be used to it seeing as how WebOS users never get anything new.
Just let me know when it is fair to compare it to the more robust offerings of the competition.
Video and TV were one of the area where Apple really had a headlock on the market. If this store can come at least close to matching the offerings at iTunes it goes a long way to making the TP as appealing as the iP.
Well iTunes has been around since 2001 so, according to the prevailing logic around here, you really shouldn't judge HP's music and video store against its contemporaries until a few years from now. After all, iTunes didn't have movies until years after it was launched. You will just have to shut up and be satisfied with whatever progress they can make.
While I understand you like to be negative, I think you need to actually understand what you are asking. You seem to want a brand new product to come out of the gate fully competitive in ALL market segments. Yes, webOS was out for a couple years before this but it did not have the ability to do many of the things the TP can do now (due to SDK restrictions, etc). Netflix is VERY stringent on what can run their software. Go look how many android devices can actually run it unrooted.
No company has ever come out with a brand new product that was competitive in all markets. Not a single one and if you think so then you need to do your research. Everyone hates the "it's a marathon, not a sprint" phrase but either way both forms begin with a step, then another, then another faster and faster. Right now HP is making those steps and, hopefully, will keep making them faster and faster. That is how Google did it with android and people like you whined about how far behind they were and the mistakes they were making.
Everyone is welcomed to their own opinions and if you do not like the product or the company behind it, then move on. Fact is, webOS has a better chance to grow now than ever before.
Your post begs the question: If the Touchpad did not come out leading in ALL segments, then what segments DID it come out leading in?
WebOS? They had that 12 months ago when they acquired Palm. Just Type was finalized last fall.
They're not leading in design, audio content, document editing, tablet Flash performance (that would be the Playbook), video content, games, or enterprise apps.
Essentially what they are leading in is a UI that they bought a little over a year ago. And Palm was "competitive" the exact same way when they launched the Pre in January of 2009. See where that got them?
The fact is, HP wasted billions and a lot of people's time if they cannot expand the advantages of this OS beyond that. Thus far, they are going in the wrong direction. Their reach/marketshare in the smartphone market has only shrunk. Carrier support is almost non-existent. Developer interest has tailed off. App momentum has slowed to a crawl.
If it's a marathon, you DO have to start running in the same direction as the others to finish.
"Everyone is welcomed to their own opinions and if you do not like the product or the company behind it, then move on."
This
I don't think anyone is expecting a brand new product to be fully competitive in all market segments but the TouchPad (and WebOS) isn't competitive in ANY market segment.
UntidyGuy, if you dislike the platform so much then move on. I really didn't like my iphone so I left and came back to Palm and since then I have not been to an ios site because I moved on and haven't looked back.
We all know webOS isn't perfect, but were (most of us, anyway) fans of the os and feel it's positives outweigh the negatives but Dude, you are only negative and it really wears on me after a while. If we were all at a party or a social gathering it wouldn't be long before you and mikah and GlennBeck were all sitting by yourselves, smoking and getting slowly drunk and grumbling about why all the chicks want nothing to do with you...
Really, you guys are just sad to listen to. Get an Iphone and an Ipad and go the hello away so the rest of us can enjoy the company of our friends.
I bought an episode of Childrens' Hospital from the store. I had problems finding it. I searched for "children's hospital", "childrens hospital", and "children hospital" and nothing came up. I browsed around the TV section and it was listed as "Childrens' Hospital" and you could only find it through search if you used that exact text (case insensitive). So it was a bit of a pain to find anything.
That said, there's quite a bit of content in there. I ended up buying an episode and it downloaded fairly quickly and I was up in running in no time. I unfortunately went to the Amazon VOD site to see what the prices are over there and felt bad as I paid $1.99 for an episode when they're $0.99 on Amazon and I could have gotten the whole season for $3.99.
It's not a bad start and I guess they have a captive audience so they can charge those prices.
Re Wade Dickinson & others. If you see them post here skip their thread, but don't whine for censorship of any kind. I know the forums have taken that turn and I find it disturbing. A lot of good can come from social discourse, and I dare say HP has paid notice and is already fixing things. This I believe in part due to the very types of people you wish to silence.
Asking someone to shut up isn't censorship, asking the forum master to shut them up certainly would be censorship, but that's not what I've ever done. I just find it so tiresome to hear these guys say the same negative things over and over and over. AND even when the news is positive these three WILL find a negative spin and I wonder to myself "Do they actually use any of these devices, or are they just here at someone's behest, maybe even getting paid to spread their negativity"
I'm here because I genuinely care about webOS and I'm curious about what's happening within it. I don't always have glowing reviews myself, and sometimes I'll vent a little frustration like the rest of us, BUT NOT EVERY SINGLE POST. It's as though these three are constantly telling the rest of us that we're stupid for our enthusiasm of webOS, which is something I would not do on an Iphone or crackberry site...
Those guys tire me, that's all. They have a perfect right to do what they are doing, and I have a perfect right to call them on it.
"I'm here because I genuinely care about webOS and I'm curious about what's happening within it."
Odd, for someone who cares about WebOS, you spend a lot of time ignoring articles concerning it and arguing with people for not being positive enough. Seems like THAT is what you genuinely care about.