The HP Pre3 has not gone dual core, we can assure you of that 116
Fri, 15 Jul 2011 11:20 am EDT 
There's a new story circulating around this morning that we're going to step up and put the kibosh on right now: the HP Pre3 is not being upgraded to a dual core processor. The story rose from a spec sheet on HP's UK website that lists the Pre3 as having a "Qualcomm Snapdragon dual-CPU APQ8060 1.2GHz", which has been taken by some to mean that the Pre3's processor has been swapped from the single-core 1.4GHz Qualcomm chip. That same spec sheet also lists the Pre3 as having "Internal stereo speakers and Beats Audio."
We have a Pre3 in our hands (a prerelease unit bound for European release that HP gave us to review with the HP TouchPad's touch-to-share feature). We can assure you that this phone has neither stereo speakers nor a dual-core CPU. The chip listed is the processor from the TouchPad, which tells us that somebody did a sloppy copy/edit job when making the Pre3 page from the template of the TouchPad page.
We don't know exactly what's taking the Pre3 so long to get released, but we can assure you that it will not be packing a dual-core chip when it is.
Source: HP UK; Via: Phone Arena, Clove
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What will follow is a series of "epic fail" posts. Brace yourself.
EPIC FAIL!!!!
I really don't think they care very much.
Final product will speak for itself.
GlennBeck and msesha will love this! I wonder if those guys will turn to stone in the daylight...
Eh, anyone that's not a webOS fan boy would say pretty much Palm and HP has been failing so far.
The Pre2... either you can consider it a decent upgrade that came out 3-6 months too late or you can consider it just an under performing device. Knowing HP/Palm I think it's was the former.
The Veer was a terrible idea. A small smart phone is a fine idea but not if it's supposed to be a touch based media consumption device.
The Pre3 looks like it's going the way of the Pre2. A very good device... if it was released in February. Since it's going to be released in August or the fall, it's a "meh" device. Course we'll have to see it to judge it, but it just doesn't seem good.
just bc.... SPRINT
SPRINT, Epic Fail, OTA UPDATE!!!
The Dual-core model is for the mythical Sprint Pre4 which will be released "soon" (i.e. After HP kindly waits for its competition to surpass it).
{Notice: there is no rumored Sprint Pre4 device! I just made that up!}
i heard there is a Sprint Pre4 in the works, and the volume rocker goes to 11! a lot of people are waiting for that one to come out....
Yep, and it comes out less than a month after the Pre 3 comes out
oh well... HP has already failed and taken way too long to release this device or even announce pricing, carriers and a real release date.
so.. after 2 years of sticking with webOS I'm switching over to android. with a nexus S.
hope webOS can make it with all these stupid delays and unkept promises..
if it survives I will most likely switch back because I do love the OS.
I really think Android is a cheap iPhone impersonation...
I'm waiting on webOS, but if it takes too long and dies, hopefully Windows Phone 7 Mango Juice Tropicana will be out, be great, and be on Sprint
I tried Android on sprint ...
honestly... mleh.
the entire OS feels like polished windows98 to me
The elephant in the room however, is:
If you are sticking with sprint, and your Pre is dying, what else are you going to do? B;ackberry? I think not. It sucks, but there isn't much else to do when you have a compelling resons to stick with Sprint.
Sucks, yes, but "Thems da breaks" as they say.
Polished windows98? Good lord, what phone were you using?!!? I switched to an Evo 4G after they announced the Pre3. And while Android is certainly not as elegant as webOS (I don't think anything is), its a pretty damn good OS. You can customize the bejeebus out of it, its fast, and it has apps. I miss webOS, but even if they licensed it out to a company that actually makes decent phones, until the developer support is there, I'm not coming back. And I have a feeling if the Pre 3 flops or gets the reception the Touchpad did, the webOS party will be over pretty quick.
Wait wait wait... Windows 98 or Windows 98 SE?
Cause Windows 98 SE was awesome!
Who's going to buy an already outdated phone WHEN it gets finally released (Sept).
..because it will be top of the line
I'll tell you who else won't be buying it, a couple of thousand webOS users on Sprint (getting smaller each day). I myself was one.
Agreed. I still use my POS pre on its last legs. I really dont' know what to switch to...Android? BB? W7? Help me choose! In other words, which one's most like webOS?
If your on Sprint, I'd go with Android. If you are with Verizon or AT&T go with iphone. You know all this debate as to who's OS is more superior than others is just like the old PC vs Mac (Apple) debate. Both do everything the other one can essentially but in different ways. Everyone get accustomed to what they use. I used palm forever and got used to them, switched to Android and got used to them. Yeah, I'd say webOS was a littler easier to use but hey I'm not going to be fooled twice waiting to see if the Pre3 is going to be on Sprint. I was already fooled getting a Pre and thinking I was going to get 2.0, flash, etc. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me.
Android. Once you get past not having gestures, and get used to their implementation of multi-tasking, you won't be missing much else. All the differences will nag at you, but you'll soon realize you can actually USE the phone - ie: apps are actually available that you want, flash works without killing performance entirely, there is no scratch-happy plastic screen, and the virtual keyboard isn't perfect, but at least the auto-correct isn't half-baked, and works in both orientations of the phone. Not to mention auto-focus cameras on most models.
The things you'll miss? Having one integrated messenger app, and integrated email. Annoying, yes - deal breaker? Not in my book. I do miss gestures, and the simplicity of the system. I just couldn't see through my cracked/scratched screen anymore, and the fac that my speaker died.. again.. for the 7th time.. made me finally switch. So far, the speaker on my evo 3d has outlived any of my pre speakers.
not all people look at the specs. at the end of the day, it will be the user experience. i remember when my wife and sister were looking for a new android phone a while back. it was a choice between the moto droid and the lower-spec'd htc eris...both of them picked the eris. the htc sense made it seem smoother and more refined to them.
People won't look at it at all. The Pre is a failed brand or at the very least carries a lot of negative baggage. Perhaps the form factor has a chance, but HP needed to rebrand it, make it look a bit different and try again.
It won't matter for the loyal webOS base, but it will matter trying to have success with the mainstream.
i'm not sure about the negative baggage. i think if you ask 10 people today what the pre is, 9 won't know what it is. i don't think it reached enough people the first time it launched. so i'm not worried about the rebranding it because it never really bacame a brand **** like, say, droid or what sprint is trying to do with the evo.
HP just needs to get more awareness. maybe make webOS the brand and not necessarily tie to a particular phone. i'm sure they're training the sales people. the operative word there is people; and most people people try to do as little as possible :). in other words, they won't invest too much time into training on products that customers aren't asking about. but if enough people come into the stores asking about it, then you won't have to force the sales folks to sit through the traininig.
Even if you accept that most don't know the Pre brand, you can bet the ones who sell it do. Those salesmen and devs are the first ones you have to appeal to. This is your target market.
But why try to figure out who knows and who doesn't or trying to guess how many associate something negative with it. Better safe than sorry, rebrand.
Here's the thing, if a dual-core 1.2GHz is going for $200 with two year contract, and the Pre 3 is going for $200 with two year contract but it only has a 1.4GHz single-core processor, I would be inclined to wait for the inevitable price drop to $50 with two year contract that will happen within two months.
This is what HP is doing with this delay, causing people to assess the cost of their new "flagship" phone when it comes out, and since low sales will cause a quick price drop, people will just wait for the price drop if the regular price is too high.
I'm still on my two year contract, but I CAN update without penalty to a new WebOS phone on AT&T...why would I pay the $200 at launch, knowing others will see it as being overpriced and will just wait?
I am not saying the phone is bad, but Feb 9th was a LONG time ago in this industry, and keeping the same specs that sounded good six months earlier is a formula for failure.
This is why I have left WebOS and HPworld!
They fail on EVERY release and the hardware is so far behind. This is sad because I LOVE WebOS it self. Its just HP is a giant failure like Palm was in the end....sad part is HP doesn't have money problems...So there is NO reason for this. FACT!
HELLO HTC EVO 3D! AND I LOVE IT!
Is the Evo 3D worth $200 to you?
I'm trying to decide if I should dump my pre minus for an EVO 4G for $100 or EVO 3D for $200
I think a few people might disagree with this statement, but I just got a Nexus S for the second time after waiting for the 3d to release. There are signal issues (google it), but they're mostly visual and deceiving, but an update is on the way.
Anyway, the Nexus is a bajillion times smoother than both evo and evo 3d. Stock Android is really the only way I'd ever use another Android device. The phone isn't as heavy, the screen is much more responsive and bright, and it's easy to hold because of the contours. Dual core as I've experienced does not make the phone even close to twice as fast. If anything, the Nexus seems faster than evo in every side by side I've done so far.
I didn't try the Nexus S but I jumped on the EVO 3D. I like it. The dual core possessor is fast and it does everything I want it to do. I miss the multitasking of my Pre but the phone was about to fall apart and you can't multitask on a broken phone. I did think about the Nexus S but I do like Sense UI and some of the stuff HTC brought to the phone.
Fair enough. I miss my pre as well :( Android is sloppy in my opinion. Sense 3.0 is truly impressive, just not for me. I'd rather have snappy and smooth than have all of those extra graphics and features.
Can we also kill the rumor about the Pre3 being delayed because they are re-tooling to add wimax so that Sprint will accept it? We all know that they are re-tooling it to work with lightsquared because *that* was the only way Sprint would accept it!
(oh how I wish that last bit of sarcasm would take off as a real rumor... it would be fun to watch :-) )
Thanks for clearing it up, It didn't make much sense to me when I saw it, especially only on the UK HP site.
It's pretty sad really. If HP had released the Pre at any time before June, it would have been one of the hottest phones of the summer. Instead, it will be relegated to mid-range status because of HP's delays. It will probably take HP a couple of years to get their act together on webOS. I just hope that it still matters at that point.
Even if they had released in June, it's a phone with a buggy, laggy OS and few apps with devs having no incentive to currently develop for it. Read that TIMN interview with dumb and dumber, and you'll see they didn't want to go anywhere near answering when it or any webOS phone would get webOS 3.x.
...TIMN: Okay, let’s move on. You have a new smartphone coming, I know you have printers and other stuff, but you’ve got the Pre 3 coming. It’s running a different version of webOS than the tablet. There are pretty major differences between those OSs. You’re encouraging people to develop for webOS 3. Is this going to hurt the Pre 3? A device running an older version of the OS? Do you expect to get them to parity quickly? What is the phone outlook?
Jon: I wouldn’t say it’s an older OS. It’s certainly a different OS. We didn’t want to do a tablet where we just took the phone OS and scaled it up. We talked about this before. We went back to the drawing board and said ‘how do we take webOS and deliver that elegant experience but optimize for the larger form factor,’ and because of that we had to split the effort. You can assume that sometime in the future will converge again, but not anytime soon. So you’re right, the Pre 3 has a different version of the OS. It runs phone optimized applications, it’s not going to run the tablet apps. That’s how it works on every other phone that’s out there.
TIMN: Will they (TP & Pre)hit parity soon though? Before the end of the year?
Jon: We’re not giving any timeline on that.
TIMN: But it will happen?
Jon: No, I haven’t even said it’s going to happen (???). I chose my words very carefully. Sometime in the future we will re-converge these, but right now that’s not the plan....
How encouraging...
With regards to webos, it appears that Rubi has adopted the "if I can't have you, no one will!!" mentality. He's turning into one fine saboteur.
This is Why the moved Rubi!! Definitely the bottleneck.
So HP doesn't even know when or if the Pre3 will every be updated to webOS 3.0 and have access to apps written in Enyo? So the Pre3 will only have access to apps written in their discarded Mojo language for the foreseeable future? No wonder why devs don't want to build apps for webOS.
I've been waiting and I was looking forward to the Pre3 because I like the form factor and wanted a larger screen with webOS but not now. My 2 year contract since I got the Palm Pre was up over a month ago...looks like my field of options has narrowed significantly.
Yes, right now it is the epitome of fragmentation. To think of the constant griping that Google gets over Android's alleged fragmentation problem, they do not have anywhere near the issues that webOS has. Granted they have phones running Android 2.x and tablets running 3.x but at least they have a roadmap to Android 4 in the autumn, which will run on all devices.
This just isn't good news for devs - it's beyond me that HP expects devs coming to the platform for the first time to develop apps in BOTH mojo and enyo.
They will develop for webOS 3 and there will be no new apps for the Pre3.
Apple don't have as much of an issue as IOS is the same on both the phone and the tablet, a screen full of icons and that's it. Apple got the developers to do the heavy lifting there - which they didn't mind obviously because they know it's a platform they can make money on.
I hate being under NDA and not getting to correct stuff. :(
I had to move to Android (EVO Shift) and the Hardware is awesome, but I sure miss WebOS. I'm hoping that HP will release the OS to other partners like HTC, but more importantly that they do so in a strict way, meaning no overlays. The worst part of Android is the overlays like sense and motoblur. These overlays would fragment WebOS just like android, especially from companies like Samsung. WebOS doesn't need overlays, just some awesome hardware. I will be tossing my EVO Shift to a family member uber quick once I see some great hardware. HTC slab with WebOS is my dream device!
By the time it is finally released it will be competing with quad core phone
s...
I'm afraid that WebOS is DEAD in 2011. The hardware is dated and HP can't even get them out the door in a decent amount of time. Not to mention very poor APP support. So sad because I really believe in the OS. Right now I have a pixi with Verizon and I went by the store to upgrade to the Pre2 and they laughed at me. Said they have never sold one. I ended up not buying it when I found out that the free mobile hotspot was no longer included. Then last night I went by two WalMart stores (wife was looking for something) and both had not sold one TouchPad. I managed to speak with one associate about it and he told me that because the ASUS pad was $479 and it looked more high-tech that they were selling those. Hopefully HP will get their act together and start fresh next year.
In the UK I can get a ASUS EEE Pad Transformer *INCLUDING* the Keyboard docking station plus a 16Gb SD Card to bring it up to 32Gb - and it's still £50 less than the price of a 32Gb TouchPad. That's the market reality for HP - I don't think people will pay the premium price that HP are asking for. That ASUS tablet has HDMI output built right in too, sensational value.
I know HP didn't want to price lower than the iPad to avoid giving the perception that it was lower quality - however, when you price the same it makes people think *harder* about why they should buy the TP instead of the iPad, and once you start to list pros and cons then nobody will be buying the TP (especially when you also have high quality tablets from the likes of ASUS for less price with more bang for the buck).
Good Grief, Charlie Brown!
LMAO @ you guys for already having Govnah loaded on to this demo device!!! Gotta love you guys!!
lol we knew the pre 3 wouldn't be dual core.
It's just sad to see that the pre 3 will be another fail for many reasons.
1) The people still stuck on a pre minus that want to stay with sprint won't be able to get this phone.
2) I'm sure they will charge $200 for this phone wheras at the time you'll be able to get the iphone 5 for the same price. Heck you can get an HTC Evo 4G for $100 and that is a year old and looks like it outperforms the pre 3.
3) They probably still won't offer a "Make it right" for those still using a pre minus.
HP your clock is ticking for my business. My 2 year contract is up in September. Give me a webos phone to jump onto by then.
so.. evo 4g "looks like it outperforms the pre3", really? I really doubt that
The year old HTC EVO 4G has a bigger battery than the pre 3 and a GPU. I haven't heard any mention of a GPU on the pre 3.
I just watched a video of EVO 4G vs. pre.
I'm a fool... I should have jumped switch to the HTC EVO before Sprint got rid of the 1 year upgrade :(
The pre3 has a GPU that's the same as the Sony Xperia Play. So...it's not bad...
the pre3 doesn't even exist!
Yep. That photo up there is completely Photoshop. *rolls eyes*
Hardware will always outperform Vaporware.
Amen!
September 1st is the day I'll walk into a Bestbuy store(no mail-in rebates) and buy the best phone Sprint has to offer price and power wise. My options, Evo 3D, Photon 4G and Nexus S.
I have an Evo 4G and my wife got the Nexus S, we both switched from Pre-'2. I really like the Nexus, its light and stock android is pretty good. I travel a lot though, and for me, the Evo is a better fit. HDMI out is a lifesaver, I am always streaming Netflix through my phone to hotel room TV's, and I think that's pretty damn cool. More of a niche feature, I know. But yeah, the Nexus S is really, really good. Don't know much about the Photon yet, but I love the design.
Hey Derek, it must be nice having a Pre 3 with Govnah running on it already. I know you can't talk about it, but I have a question that you can probably answer.
How does it feel in your hand compared to the Pre 2? Is it comfortable?
Qualcomm's Snapdragon detail page lists the APQ8060 as being "... targeted for tablets and large display devices without the need for a WWAN modem."
The MSM8260 and MSM8660 have the HSPA+/CDMA EvDO radios... So even though they did the whole copy/paste thing, the APQ is definitely not a smartphone proc.
I'm loving all these hiccups in the launch of new devices, I can see HPs "massive scale" and "strong retail relationships" being put to good use... /sarcasm
By the time this comes out, my Veer will be 6 months old already. I'm waiting for the VEER 2 baby yeah!
Veer 2 baby?
Can they get any smaller?
The Veer should be dropped. The phone is way too small to compete with other phone.
They probably do have the dual core but waiting till 10 days after release kinda like how they did us on the TP. You know "cause they can "
Thanks for sharing - hope you guys don't get in trouble for releasing this info given there's no doubt a news blackout for press folks who have Pre3s.
Once Pre3 releases, the HP roadmap is largely unknown. I've seen reports that there's the Opal 7" tablet coming in the fall, a spec-bump to 64GB storage on the Touchpad 10", a grainy photo of an unnamed slab phone and... nothing else.
Yes - very cool having Govnah on a demo device... :)
Dual core Pre 3? That's at least two months away. It's the HP way - undifferentiated hardware with no particular model being anything worth anticipating. Whenever it shows up, the new one goes on the shelf at Best Buy and the old one gets a $50 instant rebate. You see it all the time with HP products.
I'm not sure who we can expect to buy these things. They will be on AT&T, I guess, along with a ton of other smartphone choices with better specs and a much better lineage.
Um, a single core Pre 3 is at least two months away.
I disagree with its the HP way. It is the RUBI way!!! I am really starting to not like him!! HP Needs to put him in the mail room and then they will see that the mail will start getting distributed slower also....lol
NOT A FAN OF RUBI!!!
I hope HP will do something better than 50 buck for the long time users of Palm products!
The Pre3 looks like its going to be realeased around the same time of the Iphone 5. Come on HP, you're killing me
That would just be stupif of HP. The iphone 5 would embarrass the pre3 launch.
I wish they forget this obsession with tablets and release a new phone with a decent design and specs. Besides when Windows 8 tablets arrive next year they want be able give Touchpads away.
Increase mind-share of webOS with the Touchpad then throw the phones out. It will work out.
I really want to know... does anyone at HP know what they are doing or does the company pretty much run itself at this point.
Imagine paying 1.2 billion dollars for something and having no clue what it is you just bought.
HP Get your heads out of your AS*es!
You have to be kidding. Go back to when Palm went on the block and look at which companies were acquiring Palm and WebOs, none of them would have accomplished more to keep WebOs alive then HP. Did you see the commercials on the ESPY's the other night. WebOs has money, power and muscle behind it.
It is a long distance marathon and WebOS will be right there until the end.
Yes, HP the same one whos CEO promised devices weeks after announcement, or even a device that would be perfect. Or what about Mr. Eric Cador who claimed Touchpad would be number 1 plus. Or maybe Mr. Kerris who promised thousands of apps at launch and also essential apps at launch. WebOs has been living off "potiental" for 3 years now. Its time to deliver or get swept up by the competition.(Yes RIM I'm also looking at you!)
Leo? is that you?
"It is a long distance marathon and WebOS will be right there until the end. "
Blah blah blah...HP just left the starting line. The rest are in mile 13.
But I'm sure you'll keep spouting this drivel years from now. Or maybe tell us that "HP just bought Palm 1 yr, 2 yrs, 10 yrs ago. Acquisitions take time." Keep that positive attitude man. Ignorance is bliss.
What are you, with all your wisdom, doing here again?
morrison has got a point. We are all here because we like webOS, but from reading the comments, a good portion of us have moved on to something else already. After getting used to new platforms with really, really good hardware and apps (you know, those things that webOS STILL has a pitiful amount of?), it's going to be hard to go back to webOS. I agree with morrison, it feels like HP kept people looking forward to the infamous "months ahead" for too damn long, and now they have a TON of catching up to do. I don't think it's possible.
Good thing my evo 3D has gone dual core, being ahead of the game with hardware feels good for a change. As does a 15 second boot up time, usable screen, apps galore, good cameras..... the list goes on and on. Seriously anyone trying to deny that android is awesome is just delusional.
15 seconds???!!! seriously? I was impressed with my pre2 bootup taking about an minute vs my pre- 4 minute affair...but 15 seconds? It takes me that long to wake up my pre- (exaggeration obviously, but it takes forever to wake up too).
From hitting the 'restart' on the screen, to being 'useable' it took my phone 1:50 to fully restart. Took 1:30 to get to the 'home screen' (but it was prepping SD card, loading icons, etc).
Took :15 seconds to shutdown, and 5 seconds to begin 'booting'.
Turn-off took :15 seconds. Turn-on took :15 seconds.
No idea why restart takes longer... I didn't know that until I just tried this.
HTC has this "fast boot" option on some of their high end phones where the phone doesn't fully shut off when you turn it off. It significantly decreases boot time though.
I'M TIRED. TIRED TIRED TIRED. TIRED OF BEING LAUGHED AT EVERYTIME I PULL OUT THIS PHONE AND PEOPLE ASK WHAT KIND OF PHONE IS THAT? TIRED OF BEING LEFT OUT OF PLAYING "WORD" WITH FRIENDS, TIRED OF BEING LEFT OUT AND LEFT BEHIND, PERIOD.
WHEN THE IPHONE COMES TO SPRINT, I'M GAME. HP KEEPS MIND **** US ALL. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.
AND LASTLY ANDRIOD SUCKS BALLS.
AND WE HEAR YOU LOUDLY AND CLEARLY. AND WE GET IT, YOU'RE AN ATTENTION **** EVERYBODY NEEDS TO KNOW WHAT PHONE YOU USE AND HOW BIG YOUR **** IS.
I think you need to get out and get a hobby like play some soccer or basketball. Learn to skateboard or something other then worring about how other people view your cell phone choice.
i'm not saying don't get an iphone. I'm just saying your cell phone shouldn't drive you to an all caps freakout.
LOL!
Don't place your self worth onto a phone. Seriously, it's not worth it.
C'mon. He's 15...
YOU'RE ALL LOSERS OBVIOUSLY. WHEN DID I INDICATE THAT I PLACE MY SELF WORTH ON A PHONE. WHY DONT U LOSERS GET A LIFE AND STOP TELLING ME WHAT TO DO. OLD FOOLS
Lol! I'm going to laugh when your contract is up, there is still no iPhone on Sprint, so you get an Android phone, and you realize... it's really good! Can't wait for an all caps, brain **** post from you then!
Who really thought the Pre 3 was going to magically receive a CPU upgrade? I mean, other than the same lunatics who believed the TouchPad was going to be thinner and have a rear camera at launch.
With HP not saying anything, and I mean NOTHING about the Pre 3 for months now, rumors and random thoughts are the only thing people can do to entertain themselves these days. Seriously, Feb 9th....five months now, and no word, or even a hint that the Pre 3 is ready for launch when "summer" was the target? HP could have just thrown WebOS 1.4.5 on it and people would have bought it for the larger size and better hardware specs.
So, no one knows why the Pre 3 isn't out yet, no one knows about a real launch date. No one at HP is talking...and HP is losing customers who have been loyal as a result of this idiotic silence.
Derek,
How much do you want for that Pre3?
I'm Jones'n for an upgrade.
+ 1000...but seriously i'll double whatever he's offering.
Why is it showing so little RAM?
I would reckon that the the pre 3 starts off with a paltry 512 mb of RAM and bloated webos takes up a lot of the available space.
sick burn
and it is showing swap space being used.
so so very sad. They should release it with 768 or 1GB of ram.
At this point, what can it matter? The marketing of the pre3 has to be most bungled strategy in the history of the phone. Maybe if they made it a wind up phone?
What marketing?
Single core...dual core...Whatever! Release the sh** already!!
I have no clue why release dates and carriers have not been announced. Pathetic!! First it was set for "sometime in the summer" ..now it's sometime in the fall? And now it's not coming to Sprint?! IMO, destined to fail before it comes out.
WTF is HP thinking. They should've looked at how Palm F'd up things with the Pre and said "well, as long as we do the opposite of what they did, we should be ok" (think GConstanza = ))
I have a feeling that HP never really thought about going into the phone market. I think they acquired palm only for their tablets and eco-system building sh*%. Anyways, **** it, I'm jumpin ship as soon as I'm able.
The real question is where the Pre 3 is in the development cycle...right now, it just seems like HP is sitting on a device that for all we know has been ready for several months.
This phone better be $100 or less with a 2 year contract. Otherwise i'm going to be pissed and not buy it. ... oh wait I'm on Sprint, i might not be able to anyway :(
your memory is mad low son. get your game up. get an iphone 4
What you have their could be an old pre 3 it could happen.
I didn't think it was possible.... but I think the Pre 3 is going to be an even bigger failure than the Pre 2. It's way too late and the specs are underwhelming. WebOS is dying fast. I can't wait for my contact to end in October. Can finally ditch my legacy Pre Plus with an unsupported OS (2.1). Looks like I have no choice but to go Android at this point. Sorry HP and PreCentral. I just don't want to get burned again for another 2 years.
be careful what you wish for...i had to ditch my pre- because my 1 yr old son dropped it one too many times...and got an evo to replace it. that was 6 months ago, and i'm still swiping up to get to get to the home screen :). webOS has that kind of effect--it's so intuitive that you start thinking everything should work like it.
So true. I still find myself squinting to read webpages or login fields! I forget I don't have to do that anymore, what with a bigger screen and all. I also find myself hearing about all these new apps, and instantly assuming I won't be able to get it - then I realize, that yes, yes I can.
I see a long road of smart(er)phone re-training ahead of me.
LOL
true. true. i do like the big screen for when i'm browsing the web. although i think i overcompensated a bit by opting for the 4.3-inch screen. i think a 4-inch screen would've been a sweet spot for me but there was no good alternative in the size when i was looking. i'll probably also miss the google nav. i'm not much of an app person...just need a single email client that's intuitive and just works and a nice nav software.
i'm hoping the bing maps in the pre3 will be sufficient...can't wait to demo it.
Hard to sell a phone w/o a carrier... Betting the carriers told HP to pound sand and come back with some better game before they'll take another chance with a portrait slider designed by the same clowns who built the pre~
I'm a newer member of this community so forgive me if I offend any of the veteran folks. Here's my take as someone who wants dearly to get a Pre 3 as I currently have a dumbphone. I've been out of contract almost a year waiting for the "latest" webOS phone.
1. Announce whatever there is to announce as of today within next 7 days including carriers, pricing and the ever-elusive release date. HP needs to stick to the latter no matter what. HP...we in this community are wise to you when you don't mention a specific release date and then delay the ambiguous "planned availability in summer" that has somehow morphed into "fall" nonsense.
2. Offer 50GB box.net lifetime storage as was done with the TP for the Pre 3 (not sure if that's possible but cloud storage is a definite plus since everything is going that way anyway).
3. Provide a prepaid debit card to anyone who buys the Pre 3 (e.g. $75-$100). Those who have waited long enough and want to try their hand elsewhere at android or iOS should also get a prepaid card of some lesser value (e.g. $50). This would at least demonstrate that HP acknowledges their "growing pains" in their acquisition and subsequent product creation, distribution and execution strategies (or the lack thereof).
4. Never again have an official launch for any product (i.e. July 17th launch for TP) combined with a soft launch (i.e. July 1st). I'm not sure whose idea that was but the person(s) in charge of orchestrating that should be fired. All or nothing!
5. Enlist the support of members of this and other webOS communities to train/sell or whatever has to be done to raise understanding of how webOS functions and how it benefits the end user. By enlisting, I'm talking about paying them either in greenbacks or webOS products. Of course, this must include that nifty HP webOS polo that I keep hearing about.
I really want the Pre 3. Just yesterday I stepped into an AT&T store to look at some older WP7 handsets. I feel like I'm cheating...it'll be even more difficult to be faithful when mango arrives along with other handsets.
HP - please deliver soon on what this community has hoped for a long time.
They don't want to release it now. they're trying to compete with iphone 5 release date.
Why would they try to compete with the iPhone 5 release date? They would FAIL!
I just want the stupid thing to come out. I'm sick of having a dumbphone (had an iPhone for a while... liked it for a few months, thank God it fell in the toilet), and I'm almost at the point where I would be willing to look at other phones.
Our hamster died in her sleep last night, and I think it's quite symbolic that my little boy chose to use the box to my old Pre- as a coffin. I wonder what you could bury in a Pre 3 box, if it ever shows up? Maybe a Pre 3, because by the time it comes to market it'll be DOA.
Are you guys still here? Honestly nothing can surprise me anymore. My phone has a dual core Snapdragon. I gave up 3 weeks ago and bought an EVO 3D. I love it! I finally have apps that I use daily to make my life easier. The Android UI isn't the best but Sense makes it better. I miss webOS, but the continual stumbles by HP to get the Pre3 out just isn't worth it.
Actually, to use dual core efficiently, you have to develop for a dual core. I am very certain that android or WebOs is not designed to used that power. Even less for indie developers that make most apps.
However, WebOs is a very system heavy OS, so it should have been 1.8ghz and like a gig ram, to even start competing with other platforms.
The fact is, ull be a sucker if you ignore much better alternatives atm and in the "coming month"