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by Derek Kessler Tue, 20 Mar 2012 8:32 pm EDT

HP reportedly to merge printing group into Personal Systems Group, webOS printer

HP CEO Meg Whitman's crusade to right the plundered ship Packard is poised to really shake things up at the Silicon Valley giant: according to a report today from AllThingsD, the Imaging and Printing Group is set to be merged into the Personal Systems Group. That'll put HP's still-profitable-but-not-as-much-as-before printers group under EVP Todd Bradley and his computers-and-tablets division.

The move would address cost-cutting and simplification to an extreme degree, especially on the marketing front. If you stop and think about it, both the IPG and PSG largely target the same set of customers: businesses and consumers, often shopping for both printer and computer at the same time. There would also be significant cost savings from combining the redundant human resources and finance operations under each group, plus having one fewer division to manage up top. It also gives Bradley some more to do, perhaps as compensation for having been passed over for the CEO job twice in less than a year, despite his extensive executive experience (once even serving as the CEO of Palm).

Ironically, this consolidation comes just seven months after former HP CEO Leo Apotheker announced plans to split the Personal Systems Group off as a separate company and refocus HP proper on enterprise services and printers. Just half a year later we've seen HP's printing division start to falter as businesses and consumers alike dramatically cut back on their printing (and thus purchases of high-margin ink cartridges). That said, the Personal Systems Group has faltered recently as well, though that can be chalked up to the damage done by the uncertainty of the spin-off and what that would mean for the future of whatever company(s) resulted.

Amusingly, this also puts together two divisions that HP desperately wanted to work together right after their purchase of Palm. You'll recall that the Palm Global Business Unit was slotted in under the Personal Systems Group and Bradley, with the goal of making webOS smartphones and tablets, as well as getting the operating system onto desktop computers and printers - of which HP expected to sell several million. Even then when HP was trying (unsuccessfully) to sell webOS to the highest bidder, they were still running into the sticking point of webOS on printers. Fast forward to today and HP's now in the process of open sourcing webOS with little public thought being paid towards the webOS printer. Maybe in 2013.

Update: HP has announced their plans to merge the Printing and Imaging Group into the Personal Systems Group, giving birth to the Printing and Personal Systems Group, headed by Todd Bradley. Press release is after the break.

HP Announces Organizational Realignment

PALO ALTO, Calif., March 21, 2012

HP today announced an organizational realignment to improve performance and drive profitable growth across the entire HP portfolio.

As part of this realignment, HP’s Imaging and Printing Group (IPG) and its Personal Systems Group (PSG) are joining forces to create the Printing and Personal Systems Group. The combined entity will be led by Todd Bradley, who has served as the executive vice president of PSG since 2005.

Vyomesh Joshi, executive vice president of IPG, is retiring after a highly accomplished 31-year career at HP. Under Joshi’s leadership, IPG has grown revenue from $19 billion to $26 billion, and doubled its operating profit to approximately $4 billion.

“VJ embodies the spirit of HP and his impact on the company has been tremendous,” said Meg Whitman, president and chief executive officer, HP. “Under his leadership, IPG accelerated innovation and pioneered solutions that transformed the printing market. We wish him the very best as he embarks on a new chapter in his life.”

Combining these two entities will rationalize HP’s go-to-market strategy, branding, supply chain and customer support worldwide. This will lead to a better customer experience and drive innovation across personal computing and printing. This realignment is expected to provide opportunities for cost savings and accelerate HP’s ability to pursue profitable growth and reinvest in the business.

“This combination will bring together two businesses where HP has established global leadership,” said Whitman. “By providing the best in customer-focused innovation and operational efficiency, we believe we will create a winning scenario for customers, partners and shareholders.”

In addition to combining PSG and IPG, HP also is taking steps to unify and streamline certain key business functions. 

The Global Accounts Sales organization will join the newly named HP Enterprise Group. This group will be led by David Donatelli and includes Enterprise Servers, Storage, Networking and Technology Services.

The new structure is expected to speed decision making, increase productivity and improve efficiency, while providing a simplified customer experience. A new role for Jan Zadak, executive vice president for Global Sales, will be announced at a later date. Zadak will work with Donatelli to ensure an orderly transition.

HP also announced that it will unify its Marketing functions across business units under Marty Homlish, executive vice president and chief marketing officer, HP. This will allow for even more effective brand-building and marketing activities, and will create efficiencies across the business units.

HP’s Communications employees worldwide also will be similarly unified under Henry Gomez, executive vice president and chief communications officer, HP. Together these two moves will create a more powerful voice to demonstrate the power of “One HP.”

Finally, HP is moving the Global Real Estate function from Finance into Global Technology and Business Processes to address real estate consolidation and improve the workplace experience for HP employees.

“Ensuring we have the right organizational structure in place is a critical first step in driving improved execution, and increasing effectiveness and efficiency,” added Whitman. “The result will be a faster, more streamlined, performance-driven HP that is customer focused and poised to capitalize on rapidly shifting industry trends.”

About HP
HP creates new possibilities for technology to have a meaningful impact on people, businesses, governments and society. The world’s largest technology company, HP brings together a portfolio that spans printing, personal computing, software, services and IT infrastructure to solve customer problems. More information about HP (NYSE: HPQ) is available at http://www.hp.com.

This news release contains forward-looking statements that involve risks, uncertainties and assumptions. If such risks or uncertainties materialize or such assumptions prove incorrect, the results of HP and its consolidated subsidiaries could differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements and assumptions. All statements other than statements of historical fact are statements that could be deemed forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements of the plans, strategies and objectives of management for future operations, including execution of realignment, efficiency and cost reduction programs; statements or projections of cost savings, growth rates, profitability, investment levels or other financial items; statements concerning expected development, performance or market share relating to products and services; statements regarding anticipated operational and financial results, including improving execution and capitalizing on industry trends; any statements of expectation or belief; and any statements of assumptions underlying any of the foregoing. Risks, uncertainties and assumptions include macroeconomic and geopolitical trends and events; the competitive pressures faced by HP’s businesses; the development and transition of new products and services (and the enhancement of existing products and services) to meet customer needs and respond to emerging technological trends; the execution and performance of contracts by HP and its customers, suppliers and partners; the protection of HP’s intellectual property assets, including intellectual property licensed from third parties; integration and other risks associated with business combination and investment transactions; the hiring and retention of key employees; expectations and assumptions relating to the execution and timing of cost reduction programs and restructuring and integration plans; the resolution of pending investigations, claims and disputes; and other risks that are described in HP’s Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q for the fiscal quarter ended January 31, 2012 and HP’s other filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, including HP’s Annual Report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended October 31, 2011. HP assumes no obligation and does not intend to update these forward-looking statements.

© 2012 Hewlett-Packard Development Company, L.P. The information contained herein is subject to change without notice. HP shall not be liable for technical or editorial errors or omissions contained herein.

Source: AllThingsD, HP


I have never wanted a company to be taken out by a competitor as badly as HP. So detached from their customers and business collaborators. So detached from their fantasies to actual product deliveries. So full of promise while devoid of execution. Reality is, the wireless device they gave up on so quickly, are the replacements for PC printers. Slash management is just speeding up the process. It's a trainwreck that just wont end.

Oh, putz... Appleboys are soooo boring... :-/

Best Regards... B)

Doubleputz, if you think anti-HP means Apple lover, it's time to go outside and see the real world. HP destroyed WebOS, if you want to talk about Apple, head to iMore.com

WebOS printers? About the worse thing that could be done with webOS.

ERROR: Too many pages. Please delete some pages and attempt to reprint. It may be necessary to reboot your printer.

I think this is a good move by HP. The PC and printer market is shrinking and there is no reason for redundant organization and sales staff since they are selling to same customers.R&D probably can be consolidated as well. Unfortunately that will mean layoffs especially in sales but will make HP leaner and more profitable.
HP was/is a bloated organization that doesn't communicate with itself or deliver in a timely fashion and needs to be streamlined especially with shrinking margins. I don't see much innovation in printers left- resolution is good already, wireless is well-implemented, all-in-ones have built in faxes, scanners. What's left? PCs are all depending on windows to ignite interest again.
I get why some webos fans hate HP but all pc companies are faltering. (except apple) HP just has been worse because of leadership and identity crises.

Swipe area on a printer? Hell yes!!

I like it.. I know a lot of people don't see potential in this, but I see this as just another way to expand peoples experience using WebOS.. and they won't even realize it! :) so Hopefully this idea does some good things.

Yes. Because people remember the OS used on their printers when shopping for other devices. /sarcasm

no, but it may look similar and the feel of things MIGHT inspire them to buy it.

same reason people stick w/ certain brands, its familiarity and feel of menus and buttons or drop certain brands when they changed something that you had grown to love

You can make up reasons all you want but the fact remains people don't think about printers to that degree. In fact, the common usecase for a printer is to initiate the print job from your computer (or computing device) and then pick up the paper copies at the printer. People usually don't stand there interacting with the printer's interface.

But hey, keep hope alive.

putting webOS on a printer could change everything about printing as we know it today :)

Agreed. But I don't believe that it would be HP that would change the face of printing. If webOS on printers show some promise then I would bet it would be another company who would take the lead with their own OS.

We might even see Apple move into the printer market with their own touch-touch to share iPrint?

Could you imagine that? We would finally have a printer so sexy that you would give it its own place in your living room. Hmmmmm Printers ;)

Printers? Who uses those any more? And modern convention is to move the interface to the controlling device (pc, phone, tablet) so no matter how good this could be (and we are talking about HP), it's akin to putting a touch display on a jug of milk.

You would like to pour some milk? If yes, press HERE, lift handle A and tilt jug towards the receiving glass.

I agree that HP should put webOS on printers. That way, when if it fails again, this community can blame it on the fact that the printer market has been declining for quite some time. Maybe they can do webOS Typewriters while they are at it.

Pfffft. Don't be silly. The future is touchscreen graphing calculators. HP will own this market with webOS as Apple owns the tablet market with the iPad.

pretty much any workplace, places with workorders, journalists, lawyers, judges. People in a home may use them much less then before but many many work places still need paper. Still need hard copies of things.

webos on a printer is still a strange idea. I don't know why anyone would want it. even my home printer i just hit print from my laptop in whatever software i'm using then walk over to the printer and get the paper. I don't touch the printer or want to.

Printers don't take the printout off the computer, the computer puts the output on the printer.

I want my document, not two conversations. The computer knows what I want, let the printer be the slave and simply deliver the goods. If HP want innovation in printing, make something that doesn't eat $40 of consumables every month.

Sexy printer? Ever heard of the HP Envy 110? Now that's a sexy printer. Big Touchscreen, swipe funktionality, apps. The people love it. I know it, because I sell that stuff. Envy 110, Photosmart EStation or Photosmart 7510. These are very cool aand sexy printers. I loke the idea of webos on 'em. The more devices the better. F*** Apple with their sh***y Devices.

Odd that HP's Envy (irony) design team doesn't feel the same way. Nor the execs putting together Touchpad. Nor the geniuses that wanted to leach off iTunes. Nor.....

Taharka, Jessicaplatey and Predogs... three Apple fighters always in his white ihorses against the webOS.

The Macmagazine is soooo boring, that they coming disturb here... :-P

Best Regards... B)

Which of the things I said was untrue?

Or does REALITY ITSELF have an Apple bias?

I have a feeling they love webOS more than the regulars here. Not sure what their problem is they keep digging dirt for every article. Their postings are valid but are obvious. The thing now with webOS future is its a known "UNKNOWN". Todd was a fan of webOS in the past. Not sure if he still supports it. Personally I am curious to know how this change will play out.

ignore them

I repeat...name one thing I said that was untrue. Last time I checked, pointing out facts is neither positive nor negative.


You must be new around here, you don't have to make it show.

Have no use for Apple, never did.

Gave HP preferred status when they bought Palm. Desktops, Laptops, Printers, I even have an HP camera, HP mp3 player, calculator and flat bed scanner. Well, actually, HAD. Shortly after "Think Beyond" I returned what I could for refund, and decommissioned the rest, with extreme prejudice.

You want to keep calling me some sort of apple fan, go ahead. I love misguided critics. I'm not gonna get mad and tell you to meet me behind the science building during recess so I can knock the battery out of your Franke-Pre for calling me names.

This puts WebOS into more hands! If only for the time it is being used as a GUI on a printer. This could bring in new users whenever new hardware is released. Bottom line: it's being used for something. One step at a time. Cleaning up the aftermath of one of Satan's Minions is a tremendous undertaking.

I can only imagine a more miserable place for an operating system, and it's serving the "user interface" of a microwave oven.

Come on! People don't want user interface in a printer: It's usually connected to a computer which provides the user interface. If I have to fiddle with controls on a printer - BAD. All I want from it is spitting a sheet of paper with whatever I have onscreen.

Don't take this "announcement" as more than it is: Yet another cut in HPs dementially branched business. It's mere common sense, come on, how on earth you want to sustain a whole independant infraestructure for such a vanishing business as printing? If only they made cameras still, it would have more sense. But I'd say that they should have noticed THIRTY years ago: Those things with screens that we produce will some day make paper dissapear.

Not quite the hardware I was hoping for, but at this point...

maybe now my wireless HP printer will stay connected to my HP laptop after a router reboot or printer power-down, lol!

now what about the toaster :)

I can't wait for the future to get here. I will print artist renderings of non existent 2012 webOS phones and tablets from my webOS printer, and stare at them forlornly. :D

obviously the worst thing for webOS , but if it's what I can get , I'll take it :(

The most important thing about this announcement is that it has nothing at all to do with webOS.

What?! Stop actually reading this news, and let us project our fantasies, willya?

Don't you know that if HP decides to build a new restroom in their building, it must have something to do with the future of webOS? People here would claim that since they spend time thinking while on the can, this new restroom will enable R&D to come up with new ideas for webOS. Perhaps HP could set it up so that you touched your Pre on the toilets to flush (TTF).

I bought a new HP Officejet Pro 8600 Plus printer on Black Friday. It has a touch screen larger than a Pre. And webOS with multitasking would be fantastic on a wireless printer. It is just begging for webOS. I could print a grocery list from a webOS refrigerator when I am out of milk and butter. I wouldn't have to worry about the all the menus for print, fax, scan. Printing with my Touchpad is a piece of cake now with this new printer, but webOS would be more intuitive and would allow bundling OCR software right into the all in one, perhaps.

But HP is going to have trouble with webOS on any new phones. Sprint is going to have the HTC One X in June. What incredible hardware! Tempting me from my Pre- which is eligible for an upgrade.

Imagine... Scanning in a all-in-one hp printer and having the ability to switch into card view search the e-mail app and send it right there, any where! Or just making a memo to it! Multitasking and notifications could make a real good asset.
@jjacobs "swipe area on a printer? Hell yes!!!" HI-LA-RIOUS!!!

Maybe I could use my Pre 2 to print some files through this printer.

Maybe I could print a Pre3 for Sprint.

webOS on more devices is a good thing. Here's to hoping!

This can be a good strategy: less cost and more chance to integrate the ecossystem...

Best Regards... B)

Abhey Lamba, an analyst with Mizuho Securities USA In New York, said the mistake HP made was trying to sell devices running on Palm's WebOS when it was clear that it could not be a viable alternative to Apple's iOS and Google's Android.

Can we have some new phones and tablets PLEASE ????

its nice to have this on printers. at least they kept their promise with this...poo wheres my envy tablet with open webOS?

Kept? As in past tense?

its nice to have this on printers. at least they kept their promise with this...poo wheres my envy tablet with open webOS?

Things being what they are today, HP's trying to right the errors of the past. Whatever the future of webOS, it's nice to see Todd Bradley doing well. He always seemed to be a stright shooter and stand up guy. Who knows, because of his past relationship with Palm, he may have a secret plan for webOS tablets.

WebOS may hold some promise as an embedded OS, but HP's printer designs for the most part may look sexy, but the interfaces underneath are currently so far in the past from what the bigger players in the market (at least in the business side) are doing. The biggest failing for HP in the printer market is the fact that they've moved away from long term business class devices to the consumer market and disposable inkjet units. Even for most of HP's 'business class' devices, the interfaces are nothing more than a prettier version of the consumer product with the same kind of bloatware installed that most business users can't use (who in the corporate world still has admin rights on their computer?).

Hopefully embedded webOS can match the speed and quality of a Canon, Ricoh, or Xerox embedded netBSD. HP doesn't need to re-invent the printer, just make it more manageable by requiring less software on the workstation side.

HP has made their printers excessively over complex in some circumstances.

So long as webOS is being used in new hardware at HP, it is good... It means, more dev work, more tidy work, & more uses... HP still has the tablets in it's long term plans... PCs & Printers will be around for a long time, despite what some seem to think...
As stated above, most institutions, businesses, & All Governmental Agencies in the US require "hard copies".. aka literal paper trails for just about everything...

From business solutions to home-based printing, & the relatively newer realm of mobile printing... A lot of folks need printers & will, long into the foreseeable future... Provided we survive the Mayan Calendar. LOL!..

Some need typical basic stuff, but not every PC/laptop/printer is capable of printing the more complex things that are needed for certain types of business or specialized work. A compact "To-Go" Printer with webOS interfacing/processing/memory is a fantastic idea for mobile users & wireless/mobile printing devices too...
"I need a copy of a regularly used document sent asap to my worksite... Open my webOS Printer-To-Go... access the cloud via the printer interface, set it up, & print out 10 copies... No need to use someone else's stuff or put your data at risk via someone else's gear..."
I'd buy it in a heartbeat & I'm sure this was/is still part of the plan... I remember a Palm guy stating that they had an interest in the idea of "business-to-go products" during the early stages of webOS development at Palm (this was long before HP bought them folks).

This easily leads back to the coming future in tablets & wireless communications. (phones)... Whether webOS remains as HP's OS for these is anyone's guess, & I doubt Meg would likely put all of HP's eggs in one basket... But they own it & Meg is not a fool.

PS... Anyone else using ebay with a webOS device notice that it now kicks you to "hp.mobileweb.ebay.com"?

I totally agree! worldwide hp is selling two printers a second. Imagine the amount of printers that will be sold with webos on them. think about the future, when everybody knows webos from their printers. then you can bring out hot stuff (phones, tablets) with webos and the people will feel like home ;). with this spread, it will be much more attractive for hardware producers to build phones oder tablets for our beloved os.

Yeah WebOS!!!

Almost there. I cant wait to have a unit ( http://www.spectra.com/emc/ ) such like this one.