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HP to shuffle webOS group out of Palm campus, sending to Cupertino [exclusive] 27

by Derek Kessler Mon, 06 Feb 2012 12:07 pm EST

Over the past several months we've watched HP's webOS work force get chopped in half and suffer some pretty serious attrition, all thanks to HP's former lack-of-a-plan. That's now getting resolved, but what was once a thousand-plus-strong workforce at the Palm, Inc. HQ in Sunnyvale, California, has been reduced to a few hundred. As such, the three buildings that make up the Palm campus are, well, they're too much space for the webOS group. HP's been looking to consolidate their operations for some time, and the Palm campus is going to play a role in that.

In dual messages sent to HP employees by Personal Systems Group EVP Todd Bradley, webOS Software Engineering SVP Ari Jaaksi, and webOS CTO Sam Greenblatt, HP outlined its plans to move the webOS group out of Sunnyvale and into the former ArcSight building, seven miles away at 5 Results Way in Cupertino. HP purchased security firm ArcSight in 2010 and has since integrated its workforce into HP locations - the building used to house somewhere between 300 and 500 workers.

After webOS moves out of the old Palm campus, HP will be moving in with PSG employees from Cupertino, a change from mid-2010 plans to move that crew to HP's corporate headquarters in Palo Alto. Todd Bradley, formerly CEO of Palm, knows the space in Sunnyvale fairly well, telling those moving in that their "future home offers thoughtfully designed work environments and a large variety of meeting locations intended to build a sense of community. We will retain its current furniture and workplace layout. This location also provides sufficient lab and office space to meet our Bay Area needs." No word if Bradley himself will be taking his old office back, especially now that fellow former Palm CEO Jon Rubinstein has left the building.

The move from 950 W Maude Ave. will be bittersweet for the webOS group - that location has been the home of Palm for over a decade. The memo sent to the webOS group describes the rationale behind the move as getting them all into one space appropriate for their needs, instead of spreading them between the three buildings in Sunnyvale. The ArcSight building is described as having "lots of spaces designed for collaboration and working in teams—with each other and with the broader webOS community" and "a clean modern design suited for developing the future of an important technology."

The move is expected to take place in second half of this year. The memos are both in full after the break, as well as the best picture of the old ArcSight building we could find. Start saying your goodbyes to Sunnyvale, and look out Apple - somebody else is moving into Cupertino!

An Exciting New Era in the Bay Area—Message from Todd Bradley

After listening to your feedback on fostering a great work environment, my team and I are pleased to announce an exciting new era for PSG employees in the Bay Area.

Later this year, we will move our Bay Area operations from Cupertino to the former Palm campus in Sunnyvale. As a result, we are cancelling our previous plans to relocate to Palo Alto.

I am very excited about this move for several reasons.

First, as we set out to define and amplify a new product identity, our Bay Area home will serve as a well-equipped, central rallying point. With its fresh, creative, and inspirational workplace environments, the campus will be an important hub in our larger work to inspire our customers with innovation that matters to them.

Second, we made this decision with your input in mind. Through the Voice of the Workforce survey, you told us that a great workplace is critical. You told us that you want an open, fresh environment that encourages collaboration but also enables you to work alone when needed.

The Sunnyvale campus will help us realize this goal. Our future home offers thoughtfully designed work environments and a large variety of meeting locations intended to build a sense of community. We will retain its current furniture and workplace layout. This location also provides sufficient lab and office space to meet our Bay Area needs.

To ensure we realize the full potential of this opportunity, we have established a core team of PSG representatives who will work to ensure this move is made with thoughtful planning and great care. The team will be led by Emily Ketchen in Worldwide Marketing, while Dan Loos in Strategy and Planning will be the project management lead.

We expect to complete our move to Sunnyvale by the end of the fiscal fourth quarter. Before then, webOS employees currently working on the campus will relocate to the ArcSight complex in Cupertino, which boasts its own clean and modern design.

I have asked your leaders to check in with you on this matter. They are ready to listen and to share any details or perspectives they may have. Also, at 10 a.m. on 10 February, we will hold a coffee talk in Cupertino to discuss this move and take your questions (stay tuned for the invite). Until then, you may submit any questions you may have by clicking here.



The Journey to an Open webOS Continues with New Campus Plans—Message from Ari Jaaksi, Sam Greenblatt, and Martin Risau

We’re pleased to announce the next step of our journey into the future of open webOS. We’re relocating to a new facility in Cupertino that brings all our Sunnyvale employees together in a single, modern, open-design workspace.

Later this year, webOS employees currently working in the former Palm facility in Sunnyvale will relocate to this new workspace at the former ArcSight campus at 5 Results Way in Cupertino. We expect this move to take place in the last two quarters of 2012.

We’ve recently toured this facility, and we want to tell you why we’re so excited about it.

First, it brings us together. Instead of being spread out over multiple buildings, we’ll be unified by our workspace, as well as our mission. Our future home has lots of spaces designed for collaboration and working in teams—with each other and with the broader webOS community. This is in addition to a clean modern design suited for developing the future of an important technology.

Equally important, we made this decision with your input in mind. We know that a great workplace is important you. You want the kind of environment that spurs creativity and encourages open exchange. We agree, and when you see this facility, you’ll get a sense of how it will support our best ideas and achievements.

I hope you are getting as enthusiastic about these plans as we are. As we get closer to our move date over the next several months, we’ll keep you updated on new developments and details.


Ari Jaaksi
Senior Vice President, webOS Software Engineering

Sam Greenblatt
Chief Technology Officer, Enterprise Business

Martin Risau
Chief of Staff for CEO Meg Whitman


I just hope there is someone left to move in 6 months. Or that they are worth the cost of moving, in HP's mind.

"Going soon"

Maybe some one will find a secret stash of webos devices and leak the info

*pie in the sky dream

How are they supposed to see the squirrels in a building like that? Jokes aside with the shrinking staff for a large complex like that they had to have known it was going to be hard to justify staying there. This way it wont seems like working in a ghost town now and their fears of moving to the basement is no more.

For a moment when you said Cupertino, I thought it was about that other company that shall not be named...

Well, it's not out of the realm of possibility that HP could sell the whole webOS group to Apple. After all, webOS is no longer expected to generate any revenue for HP. If anyone could use the engineers it would be Apple.

Why would Apple want it?

Who knows? Whatever Apple might want it for couldn't be any more nebulous than what HP wants it for. At least Apple is profitable in the mobile space and has mobile devices in its future.

People around here are saying that HP is going to shoehorn webOS into enterprise systems, servers, medical devices, printers, or whatever which barely makes any sense. I think I could come up with better sounding projects for those teams at Apple whether or not they salvage anything from webOS.

One of these companies is struggling to communicate to shareholders the they are going to be more profitable this year. The other is struggling to figure out what to do with all of their cash to invest in the future.

Why would Apple need webOS engineers? For the same reasons they took Palm engineers in the past. They may be profitable now, but future success depends on continued innovation because tech is the one thing that is NOT written in stone. Just as Apple changed the game overnight, so too can another innovator.

""People around here are saying that HP is going to shoehorn webOS into enterprise systems, servers, medical devices, printers, or whatever which barely makes any sense.""

Would it make sense if Apple does it? Because from the look of things, they ARE in fact heading in that direction. Its the logical next step because the phone and tablet markets will plateau soon. The difference between the two companies is that Apple will invest the billions that is necessary to get there... even if it means taking all of the remaining Palm engineers.

The article is rather confusing.
In a nutshell,

The webOS group aka ex.Palm staff will be kicked out of their Palm office in Sunnyvale to a new place in Cupertino.

Rest of the HP PSG group will occupy the erstwhile Palm campus in Sunnyvale.


@gbp office(s), the Palm campus is a 3 building complex from my understanding.

@oldskool, yup.
I should have wrote the campus.

Finally we get answer to what Mark Hurd meant with:
"We didn't buy Palm to be in the smartphone business."

It must have been
"...we bought them to get hold of their nice office building".

and knowing HP, that was likely the real reason.

This is an injustice though. The two photos are worlds apart - how does one even compare? I imagine the poor engineers being finally drained of whatever dignity they still had.

The only good thing about this move is the word 'Results'.

I highly doubt that complex is worth anywhere near 1.8 billion.

For a company that should be worried about their talent getting taken this seems like a great spot to help it happen.

Be wary of anybody taking a lot of "personal appointments" or long lunches. They probably won't be around much longer! LOL.

This is typical corporate maneuvering for a SpinOff. First flight of key personnel, then consolidate(isolate) whats left in a central location.

The most important take away from this shuffle is webOS team is small , and they move to a smaller building. This will help them work like a start up.

Which they kind of are again.

Better a move to another burb than not have a job.

This whole saga would have been an incredible TV reality show.

Although they might have had a problem with believability.

typo: "going to play a roll in that." You meant "role".

The picture accompanying this article should have been a stock photo of the Beverly Hilbillies riding on the old pickup truck piled up with their wordily belongings.

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