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by Dieter Bohn Wed, 12 May 2010 2:12 pm EDT

 

While the most intriguing HP + Palm news is and will likely continue to be the swirling rumors of a webOS tablet, the bit that continues to have us most excited is HP's commitment to putting serious resources behind webOS. HP is repeating that message today, with Senior Vice President Michael Mendenhall saying:

When you think about the ability for us to invest in the IP (intellectual property) that Palm has and the ability to scale that IP it becomes incredibly important to our company and to consumers, [...] And I think what you will see is resources deployed to support the Palm acquisition

It's not exactly new news, of course, but it's a good reminder that while the excitement around tablets is high, the bigger deal here is that HP is deadly serious about getting into the mobile space and webOS is clearly how they intend to do it. There is a bevy of mobile operating system platforms competing right now and it seems likely that there will be a culling in the not-too-distant future - Palm's chances to make that cut are significantly better with HP behind them.

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More connection btw my phone/palm profile and tablets I hope

I own domain WebosTablet.com & WebosTablets.com - who want to buy it before the real device available? Contact me :-)

I own domain WebosTablet.com & WebosTablets.com - who want to buy it before the real device available? Contact me :-)

I just wish they would do something to create a little excitement around their upcoming devices.

Seriously, I'm dieing for at least a hint of the beast!

Yes, bring on the beast!!

HP, please walk the walk, and not just talk the talk.

Who is "they"?

The company with no money or the company with no webos to date?

One step at a time, nothing material has happened yet.

Really. Maybe they're waiting until after the iPhone release buzz dies down. Releasing the Pre a few weeks before the iPhone last year was pretty dumb.

So, they should have released it earlier when it was even less ready than it was on June 6? Or should they have waited a couple of months later and let iphone buzz die down?

I hope they focus on mobile phones too, not only tablets.

I still think HP intends to use WebOS as more than just an OS for mobile devices (phones and tablets). I believe that WebOS will be "scaled" to a product that will also compete head on with Google Chrome on desktops/netbooks.

HP is already a big player in the virtualization/cloud market. With WebOS they have an OS that theoretically can run on everything from a smartphone, up to a thin-client workstation. Having one OS running all your "cloud based" (provided by HP) corporate software (collaborative document editing, database access, email, scheduling) that is thus fully integrated would be a pretty major achievement and one that I think HP can successfully achieve/market.

I agree w/ you 100%

Well for me this good news has turn into a sad one because of a poor costumer service experience with HP these past 3 weeks, Waiting for a raid controller for a server. i hope this support experience doesn't extend to palm's service because i only have good things to say about palm support experience.

HP Japan has also made some kind tweets about how ecstatic they are about Palm and its supporters.(in Japanese) http://twitter.com/hpjapan

Its amazing how much I am dying for some rock-solid info from Palm... I'm a addict... I admit it!

http://twitter.com/mrkalel

It sure would be nice if they could flood the market with devices like android is. One or two phones a year will make u an after thought. But I love webos to leave.

Really? Between Apple and Android, who's the afterthought? The iPhone is iconic while Android phones are like popstars, all the rage until a new one comes out a couple weeks later (and the older one gets overlooked for support).

Android isn't a company, it's an o/s. So WebOS should be more like WinMo then?

And WebOS should be less like Iphone with one rock solid product?

I agree with the comments about using WebOS elsewhere besides phones and tablets. It's the only phone OS I've used that I would also be happy to use on my laptop. It does not feel limiting at all. Multitasking and task-switching are responsive. The only thing that would have to change is the ability to view more than one active card at the same time. Cards would have to take on the re-sizable nature of windows, which would allow for important things like cutting-and-pasting, side-by-side comparisons, file copying, etc.

I think they should focus on the mobile market first, but down the road, WebOS could definitely be a viable Chrome OS competitor.

I am not sure why everyone thinks these snippets of news mean anything to the smartphone market. I think it is clear their interest is in the mobile market, and they reinforce that, but they have been taking great pains, since the first announcement, to NOT say they are spending any serious resources (time or money) on phones.

I stand corrected if someone can point me to anything from HP that disputes that, but most of these news releases are pretty mealy-mouthed on the future of webOS *phones.*

I agree that HP has been hyping up other devices. However I don't think HP will abandon smart phones. I do think however that they really want to be able to offer fully integrated cloud-based solutions and plan on using WebOS in a way that google Chrome OS is being promoted. It's a pain in the butt in the corporate world to have your servers running either exchange or some flavor of unix, desktop windows, and phones anything from blackberry OS to iPhones. Having one web-centric OS running on everything, with the ability to make cross compatible apps would drastically simply an IT's department's job.

I agree that HP has been hyping up other devices. However I don't think HP will abandon smart phones. I do think however that they really want to be able to offer fully integrated cloud-based solutions and plan on using WebOS in a way that google Chrome OS is being promoted. It's a pain in the butt in the corporate world to have your servers running either exchange or some flavor of unix, desktop windows, and phones anything from blackberry OS to iPhones. Having one web-centric OS running on everything, with the ability to make cross compatible apps would drastically simply an IT's department's job.

The resources it will take to close webOS's marketshare margin are immense, so HP has no choice but to funnel immense resources into webOS.

Any other scenario spells doom.

Note to HP. First resource needed is to pay someone to port a couple of major apps from iPhone. Start with Shazzam.

Then go pay a bunch of money to Netflix and Hulu to get them to create player for WebOS. That will keep users busy for a while... I don't care about flash, I care about their content.. flash or otherwise. Get streaming video services available on the Pre before Jobs gets them on the iPad...
Then, to be safe, go over to Adobe HQ and write them a huge check to get flash finished and delivered to WebOS first, just to get that issue off the table...

Next, hire the homebrewers (as many as would take the offer) to put the majority of their patches into the next release of WebOS. No reason that a non-tech person should have to find PreCentral and figure out Preware for obvious stuff like adjusting the snooze time between alarm sounds...

Then put an 800mhz kernel in that release. I'm sure by now the CPU fabrication is stable enough to support more than the under-clocked speed you are using now... under-clocking Palm, really?

Then drop Preware into the catalog with just the "safe feeds" like themes. Huge differentiator that people can customize the phone (if you want to be you, be you...).

Finally, start leaking some info. Nature abhors a vacuum, and the forums are over run with people that are "scared" that there might not be new (fill in the blank - 4G, new hardware, whatever)... In the absence of info, they fill in that vacuum with whatever is their greatest fear and assume the sky is falling).

You don't have to leak much, just enough to assure the weak among us that you are going to deliver better/faster/more and there is no need to panic (there isn't a need to panic anyway, but you get my point).

Microsoft and Apple have made a fortune freezing markets and locking out competition with slideware and early announcements. You can be guarded in what you say, but having a reporter see you walking in to HTC headquarters or "accidentally" mentioning which quarter there will be a big announcement... Something, anything.

Other than writing a few checks, this is all stuff you could have done by the time the acquisition is complete, or within the same quarter at least.

This is easy stuff. It takes the obvious issues off the table. It will create buzz. It will create momentum. It will slow down the Android juggernaut. Please, grab the low hanging fruit so the forum members can get back to confidence and enthusiastic support. If you do these things to direct attention while you are building insane/brilliant next generation stuff in secret, you could really put the hurt on Blackberry, and scare the daylights out of Apple/Google/Microsoft. Wouldn't that be fun?

One final note. Based on how much money was raised for the homebrewers in the current "telethon" for donations, you might was to start giving away phones and asking us to "donate" money to Palm via PayPal... You might be able to flood the market, reduce inventory, and generate some serious cash....

...just sayin'

cantaffordit, I had a feeling you would have been the author of that post long before I got to the bottm and saw it was you. You drop truth bombs like it's your job, and I just wanted to say I love reading your posts. They are always well thought out and intelligent.

truth bomb... I like it.

Thanks! I wish it WAS my job. Maybe HP will read this and call me...

I normally ignore overlong posts, but that was amazing. You are correct on every point. I don't think they will be doing any of this, however. Like, absolutely none of it.

(donating money to a for-profit corporation is a bit extreme, however)

Palm had already communicated they had more devices down the pipe (CES 2010) before HP was in the picture. More than likely HP saw what Palm has coming down the road and liked what they saw. So to think that HP wont be focused on phones is just nonsense.

I think Palm is nearing the release of their new WebOS phone. It's just a matter of timing. I don't think we'll be disappointed especially if they implement TI's OMAP 4 processor.

A little patience will be well rewarded. Was giggling yesterday at EvoNation spitting angry that Clearwire didn't release firm timing or specs on their 4G phones. :)

The Evo phone hasn't even launched and some of them are mad that it might already suck!

Cantaffordit, your post is a hard act to follow... +1 on the sentiment that HP needs to really grab this bull by the horns and run with it. Go all in with WebOS as the future.

The fact is (and i'm not sure why everyone doesn't see this, plain as day) is that for the foreseeable future, smartphones are it. That's the future of computing, with everything a person needs in the palm (no pun intended, really) of their hand, attached to the cloud.

I've been saying this since the Treo 600 changed the game.

The first mobile OS that allows you to "dock" into a monitor and use a device in "desktop mode" wins the war. Just you wait and see.

DEAR HP PALM

YOU BETTER HARRY YOUR ASS UP
WE ARE GETTING BORING WITH THE PALM PRE specially the hardware BUT LOVE THE WEB OS SO IF YOU DONT HARRY YOUR ASS AND DO SOMEHING BETTER OR ABOUT THE SAME AS THE EVO 4G THEN YOU ARE NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO SURVIVE

LOTS OF US ARE WATTING FOR SOMETHING NEW BUT IF YOU GUYS DONT ANOUNCE SOMETHING GOOD BEFORE JUNE 4TH WHEN SPRINT LUCH THE EVO THEN AM NOT GONNA WAIT FOR A BETTER PRE AND JUMP TO EVO

SO YOU BETTER MAKE A REALLY EXITING NEW DEVICE OR YOU'LL NOT SURVIVE



HEY PALM GO ASK DADDY HP FOR YOUR ALLOWENCE AND MAKE IT HAPPEN

Boo to ignorance that they are not yet a merged entity and the deal could still come apart, especially if HP decides Palm supporters are rude impatient, foul mouthed simps.

garciaop

You've been nothing but a tool since you and your roommate Hondacop went on your pathetic "video released tonight" fraud. Take you and your sloppy broken english and show us an "exiting" moment by leaving now. CAN YOU HEAR ME NOW? Good.

boooo to the yelling

DEAR GARCIAOP,
First off, ask YOUR daddy to fund you going back and geting an education (YOUR GRAMMAR ABSOLUTELY SUCKS, LEARN HOW TO SPELL)! Second, just switch to the damn EVO and shut up about it, nobody here cares if YOU switch. Third, I'm pretty sure Palm is gonna survive if you and the other picky ass cry babies switch to the EVO. They do have more loyal followers and web OS lovers than you think. So go ahead and switch to the EVO, so I can laugh at you when the new palm device comes out and your android device still sucks, and does half of what the pre could do.

I have really enjoyed using the Palm Pre and the WebOS - it is indeed the most intuitive phone OS I have ever used. It is awesome to have the ability on my training rides or runs to pull up Grooveshark, Evernote (for workout details), and one of the fitness gps apps, etc.

I am, however, disenchanted with the Palm Pre's hardware. The batter life on my Pre sucks! I can't get too far from a charging source and that seems ironic being that it's a "mobile" phone. The slider and build quality are very sub-par. The apps are limited but for the most part I can live with the ones available thus far, I am not an app junky and just need to have ones that function well.

I understand this HP+Palm deal still needs time to solidify, and I am guessing Palm is anxious to get the deal nailed down so they can focus finishing any R&D and new production of devices. This unknown future and release of better hardware has really made me start wondering about other phones in particular the Evo, and I hate even the thought of it, but the new iPhone looks pretty impressive (but trust me, I am not going there - AT&T sucks). Personally I don't care about a tablet right now, I think Palm needs a better designed and structured phone.

I am curious...what can the Palm Pre do that the Evo can't do? Does anyone have any idea how the battery life will compare between these two devices?