HP touts webOS in a connected world 61
by Dieter Bohn Thu, 17 Mar 2011 3:03 pm EDT
HP has posted a brief interview with SVP and GM of HP Personal Systems Group, Stephen DeWitt. In it, DeWitt touts the "pervasive" concept of webOS. HP sees every device from your alarm clock to your tablet as connected (no mention of toasters) and that webOS can be a part of all of those devices. The goal is to show how webOS can be appealing to developers - an issue we've been thinking about ourselves here at PreCentral.
Source: YouTube; Thanks sk8erbassman!
61 Comments
I like that guy. He kind of reminds me of Kevin Spacey ;)
"Spacey" indeed. The real issue with this pipe dream is that it is doubtful people will buy all these devices from a single brand. HP phone, HP toaster, HP alarm clock, HP home security system, HP car? Really? The dream would stand a chance if webOS were licensed out...maybe. Until that happens, this dream is nothing more than hot air...which is also pervasive.
world wide webOS
The webOS
I can't believe how annoying that is, especially that it's coming from someone who is so high up.
You don't call it "The Windows." You don't call it "The Snow Leopard." Nor is it "The Android."
Blech.
And really, HP is making in-car devices, now? I don't think so. Try getting a phone out first. Then maybe a tablet.
If this guy is serious, he's thinking 20 year plan. Which is just non-existent in tech.
-How did you get your phone to do that?
-It's just part of the Android OS.
As far as The webOS, it's been more then just this guy lately. Seems like a lot of HP people are saying it that way. My guess, they have a reason for it (make it stand out in some way?) and have been doing it on purpose. Could be wrong, but it's more then just this guy.
Last but not least, you really think they should plan ahead? They shouldn't look at new avenues and products for their business? So they should cut R&D even more then Hurd did? A phone and tablet are planned, in production most likely at this point, they would be the worst company in the world if they didn't think beyond that.
typo...a should was meant to be a shouldn't. One day we can edit our comments....
since you brought up typos...you misused the word then. I see this ALL the time. Use then when referring to a sequence or order of events. Use than when comparing or contrasting events.
Word to your mother. Good point, will watch that I don't repeat the one, but it happens from time to time.
The webOS as described by The Stephen DeWitt. Ugg.
Kinda reminds me of The "Quantitative Easing Explained" (the video not the princple)
This reminds me of the mode switcher app in Preware. Your webOS connected alarm clock wakes you up. 5 minutes after you wake up, as you're on your way to the kitchen, another webOS connected device displays the news, weather, and anything on your agenda for the day. As you get into your car, your webOS smartphone automatically connects via bluetooth. Your webOS connected vehicle also displays the route you need to take for work, allowing you to modify it depending on your wants and needs. When you get to work, you turn on your HP computer w/ webOS which allows you to pull spreadsheets and other documents you worked on at home from the cloud automatically.
I get the concept. I applaud the concept. But it is hard to envision completely when there are no devices out to work with.
They (HP) should have waited until they solved this SDK and NDA issue before posting this video...
It's almost solved. See this article:
http://www.precentral.net/richard-kerris-lifts-veil-dev-relations-and-nd...
I don't know if I trust this guy. He calls it "the webOS" He probably calls Facebook, "the Facebook."
I rather like it when they call it "the webOS". There are many Web OS's out there, add a 'the' before the name implies that it is the best one of the bunch. :)
Its like saying "The Florida State University" as opposed to "Florida State University".
Just places a unique emphasis on "The webOS" that others are trying to duplicate.
Haha. The Ohio State University Medical Center insists on being referred to as The Ohio State University Medical Center. Some exec's get quite upset if someone leaves off the The. Maybe he is from The Ohio.
Should I take offense to that? Lol
Touting is great and all but doesnt exactly mean squat until you can back it up...
touting, or doubting?
all good with real imaginary devices...
WebOS in toasters?!:
http://en.battlestarwiki.org/wiki/Toaster
"Soon enough, you will have apps like the shazam"
Make it so! Especially in my vroom-vroom. Tap to share from my Pre3 to my in-dash console, please. I envisioned this back when THE webOS first went live....
Perhaps your webOS alarm clock can look at your schedule and wake you up at the right time. Then your webOS smartphone will use GPS input to know whether you are falling behind and send a message to others if you are going to be late.
Then again maybe two years later from now it won't do anything of the sort.
Where are you Roger McNamee? Oh, here you are:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=maz563wY-Xg
"Our product is going to run rings around [Apple] on the web...The Pre is the next generation...we think that women are going to find it particularly attractive...it's aimed at people who are really busy...this product will do a lot of automation...it will appear to think for you."
I'm sorry, I don't have time to watch THE youtube. Also, this won't work if THE Verizon kills the GPS for devices based on THE webOS. :-)
There you have it folks, "the concept of webOS is pervasive and that provides a very attractive platform for developers."
Silly me for thinking things like a high number of devices in the hands of consumers, available APIs, etc. are what provides a very attractive platform for developers. /smh
sounds like a good starting point :)
NIce to see that after two years, we're finally getting around to a good starting point. /sarcasm
love how all these people talkin about more than just a phone... Yet, haven't seen a damn new phone in two yrs let alone anything else! All talk! Get lost all you sorry pathetic waste of air!!
Talk about putting the cart before the horse. Why don't you just focus on getting a product to market.
So out of thousands of employees, not one should be thinking beyond the already in production hardware? Cool, you would be a good CEO for a company looking to nosedive into oblivion.
My company would sell things though. We would announce products and then bring them to market in a reasonable period of time. We wouldn't boast about lofty plans with no timetable for implementation and without any current generation products at market. We would always be "thinking beyond", but not at the expense of the "now".
How does that sound?
I'm already sick of the "touting".
Really need to see some hard implementation before they are going to make me a believer again.
Guess I'm too jaded to enjoy the build-up toward release. I just can't get excited about the Veer being the first device they let out. I do not see that as a high-demand or mainstream device at all.
*yawn*
Ya know...at this point I might actually get excited if I saw WebOS on a printer, a toaster, or god-forbid, a honest to goodness SMARTPHONE OR TABLET!
I just talked to a buddy (trust me, this guy is high up) of mine at sprint and he said sprint would NOT carry the WebOS alarm clock ;-)
AWWW reallly?! i am jumping ship, that put me over the edge
This guy seems like his name is Steven DeNitwit.
Oh.My.God! That is freakin' hilarious! Seriously! If you do stand-up, let me know where I can see you.
wow once again the positivity in here is stifling. i think it is a great vision. if consumers are ready for it is the big question. reminds me of the concept in movies like 'minority report.' you talk to what appears to be just a transparent pane of glass that doubles as television, clock etc. finally to live in the sci-fi world minus scorching deserts. it is great we have the kind of tech today that make these distant visions possible in our lifetimes.
Spend 8 hours trying to focus on the displayed image while you are constantly distracted by the movement you see through the display. It may look "cool" in a stupid film, but reality is much harsher. Also, hold your arms up like that for 8 hours and let me know how you feel. Do you REALLY want everything to identify you and spam you with ads????
I'm looking forward to tap to share at the gas pump to get the volume, price, and cost, and tap to share the car to get the number of miles - among other great conveniences
i would be impressed if hp puts forth the effort to write a webos app
Man can those The HP people talk..... They should start a radio station called The KHPP with "all the talk, all the time" as tag line.
HP, quit The Talk, time for Walk the Walk.
you guys buying that another waffle, tell me please, HOW on earth HP will make WebOS "pervasive" in that world, where "the" Android is put on EVERYTHING - phones, tablets, eBook readers, TVs, home entertainment systems, media players, in-car infotainments... And EVERYONE can get it for free, & put it on their piece of hardware? What, they woke up and say "hey,we have that great vision of one system being implemented on different hardware!". No, REALLY??? You have a VISION? That is a pity, because that other big company that starts with G and ends with E have already delivered & implemented that vision, and unlike WebOS, the whole professional IT world actually DO care in this case.
Jaysus, another half-brain manager farting around from the wrong end... Keep them shut, HP, their stupidity & ignorance only makes things worse.
Talk Talk Talk Talk Talk! Prove it and actually SELL a DEVICE not another ANNOUNCEMENT. There's a big difference between sell, announce, and release.
Lighten up Nancy.
you guys kill me... HP can't win no matter what they do. Would you rather that they don't describe ANY vision?? What's wrong with a vision for webOS connected world. Newsflash....it takes time to build this out.
look... The first tablet is took longer to get out than anyone preferred....so... You can't turn back the clock... Let's look ahead and I like the fact that hp is envsioning a huge role for webOS...THAT's good! Would you rather that they didn't have a vision?
honestly... Stop complaining about things that aren't going to change....or just go buy an ipad2 and annoy people on their forum.
there... Now I feel better
Hmm, I think there are a couple of other pervasive plaforms for communication between devices such as email, Twitter, etc. If you want your alarm clock to do something via the Internet, there are a lot easier ways to accomplish this other than webOS.
HP seems to like to put people out there to say things most often when they have absolutely nothing to say.
well it's nice to dream. I think they fail to realise that right now webos is irrelevant. As of right they aren't doing anything to change that. Yeah they're releasing a touchpad and the veer and the pre 3, but where are the apps? This is so frustrating......
I'd welcomed some vision, if it really was a vision, and not a half-assed blabber on rehash of something that is already well established in the industry,and NO WAY they will be able to even make the slightest dent in "the" Android being de facto standard for a mobile OS on extremely diverse hardware platforms. That was a design goal & vision behind Android since day 0,vision that has been delivered already. Anyone babbling otherwise is a lunatic, and aparently HP has a lot of lunatics within their management ranks.
Here's a vision for you,HP: stay focused, release phones & tablets, sustain the uniform OS base (by updates, and not like recently,by cancelling promised ones - 2.0), focus on outstanding PIM functionality, let me export/import my data out of the box, keep the userbase happy, provide fully capable APIs for developers. And stop farting around the place with some incoherent Sci-Fi, that is only a "vision" in your own ill-informed world - since others are already delivering that.
You need to focus, you need the sense of purpose, you need to stop the bullshit coming out your way constantly, because it irks & freaks proffessionals out, and start to deliver, one solid step after another.
how's that for a vision?
HP is doing exactly the right thing. It's a great vision and I look forward to buy the products interacting in the new ecosystem. You guys chasing specs and product right now should go buy and Android and enjoy yourself.
Agreed. Nothing worse than an out of touch higher-up.
When this vision starts to catch on, will you be saying you knew it all along?
You know those annoying Apple videos where Johnny Ive and Phil Schiller et al wax poetic about their products? They suddenly seem quite concrete and reasonable compared to this guy's video.
Kind of hard to be "connected" when your (latest) hardware isn't on a single carrier anywhere in the world ....
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Agreed, Android is on a many different types of equipment.
The point that seems to be missed in all of this is if any of them can provide a seamless interconnected experience with each other, either inside or outside of their respective suite of equipment. (e.g., Android app content on TV enabled device talking to and handing over to tablets and/or to media players etc. as you move throughout your day.)
Maybe they can, but I haven't seen or heard of it being capable on Android devices.
So, with this in mind, how off is HP in sharing their vision for a connected experience for the consumer?
I bet an HP branded toaster gets WebOS 2 before my Sprint Pre. Hey HP how about having a vision to support your customers???
HP is doing much better supporting their customers than Palm did. They just made a big bet on the webOS platform with resources Palm could only dream about. If you consider pushing webOS 2.x to older Pre devices "support", think again. I've got a VZW Pre 2 ( the hardware rocks) and I wish I could install webOS 1.4.5 on it. I don't intend to throw a "gimmie, gimmie" tantrum.
> They just made a big bet on the webOS platform with resources Palm could only dream about.
Yea, that's why they've fallen through on promise after promise. How many Verizon stores can you actually buy a Pre2 at? I know of one independent retailer who ordered 10 at launch, and just returned them all. Inside VZW rumor has National Pre 2 sales at 379 units sold. That's "resources" for you, huh?
Resources would have had upgrade paths announced for first gen users who got shafted the DAY the non-announcement was made. We're on a month plus now and nothing. I don't doubt the Pre2 is working out great for you, but you are certainly a very small minority even owning one. HP just doesn't get it, and they never will. It's genuinely too bad as webOS had great potential, and many genuine fans are upset and frustrated with this situation.
HP made enemies of some of it's biggest allies, never a good business move especially when in last place in the phone OS race.
That he thinks that first thing I look at in the morning is my "alarm clock" tells me how clueless The HP really is. Who the **** has an alarm clock anymore?
Also, I find the concept of my toaster knowing when I get out of the shower more than a little creepy.
I don't know about pencil sharpeners, alarm clocks and toasters, but I think we will see plenty of WebOS powered door stoppers and paper weights from HP :-)