InterfaceLIFT update inadvertently reveals TouchPad version 50
Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:32 am EDT 
When HP took down their open App Catalog feeds, part of the reasoning given was that they needed to prepare the store for TouchPad apps. Well, it looks like that preparation is underway, and we have an updated Mojo app to blame. PreCentral reader Dan noted yesterday morning that his phone was trying to update to a new version of the wallpaper suite InterfaceLIFT, but it kept failing (there have been plenty of other failed updates on 2.1, but mostly on pre-Pre 2 devices). Curious about what he was missing in the new version, Dan went and checked out the online listing for the app and found that it had been updated to a TouchPad app, complete with a minimum OS requirement of webOS 3.0.0 and three big 1024x768 screenshots.
The update shows a TouchPad-friendly interface, complete with sliding Enyo panes. The new tablet version of InterfaceLIFT looks to take full advantage of the larger screen, with more details in list views, enhanced search options, and more. With HP now accepting applications for TouchPad apps, we imagine there are plenty more hidden in the recesses of the online listings… if only we had a centralized place where we could see a list of what’s new. Either way, the cat’s out of the bag on this one – only a few more weeks until we get to see all the rest of those apps! All three screenshots after the break.
Update: richardfrank in the comments found another TouchPad app: an image search app called Pix, by Inglorious Apps. More screenshots after the break.
Update 2: And another: WebMyth2, for managing your open source Linux-based WebMyth DVR. Screenshots after the break.
InteraceLIFT:
Pix:
WebMyth2:
Source: HP; Thanks to Dan for the tip!
50 Comments
Wow looks great. Good work Dan and Derek in sniffing this one out!
By krische on Sun, 12 Jun 2011 10:25 pm EDT new
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For those needing the old version of InterfaceLIFT, I uploaded it as a homebrew app: http://www.precentral.net/interfacelift-webos
I'm contacting HP to see if they can roll the App Catalog one back to the old version so that it works for everyone.
I like the layout, very clean.
Here's another one - I followed a link from ingloriousapps twitter feed and then a link from their website to view a new app just for the touchpad, called simply 'pix':
https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.ingloriousapps.pix
Shows "Requires webOS 3.0.0" and three screenshots...
Coming soon!
Glad to see IngloriousApps deving for WebOS/TP. I love Notes.
Does this mean that you can't provide two versions of your app? One mojo/phones, and another enyo/touchpad?
I had no idea there was an interfacelift app and it looks like I can't download now. And, until every phone supports enyo I would expect developers to want to still provide old versions of apps as well as the newer ones.
I am guessing this is related to the other app catalog glitches we have been seeing.
I wouldn't worry about this too much once everything gets hammered out and finalized.
The bummer is it seems they overwrote the old version with this new version and its still not corrected. It did update on my device and I now can't load the app, and can't seem to go back to the old version with a delete/reinstall. :(
yeah, same here... mine updated a day or two ago, now it doesn't work and I can't find it in the app catalog either.
looks like HP has some bugs to sort out.
Dude, you should check the source of the app on your phone. It updated for me too, and it's not running for me either, so after reading this article, I took a look at the app source and what do you know, I have a whole lot of Enyo code on my phone now. Of course, it's useless without actually having Enyo, but Enyo code is still there!
Same happened to me, i updated it right out of the grasp of my Sprint Pre running 1.4.5 :( I deleted it, since it seemed to be useless for my "legacy" device :(
It's a glitch that will be fixed.
Note: Tried this google search, which should show the apps that are min. 3.0 compatible:
http://www.google.com/search?q=site%3Adeveloper.palm.com%2Fappredirect#s...
Or type this query into Google:
site:developer.palm.com/appredirect "Requires: webOS 3.0"
The only result that came up was the Pix app.
Could this be a marketing strategy? Make everything bugged, so when( and IF ) they ever fix any of those issues, we are all amazed how it feels not to use outdated, bugdet type phones
Hopefully I didn't **** it up. Interfacelift is my app. Sorry to everyone that can't use the mojo version. Hopefully HP fixes the issue.
It's easy to see the developer issue that HP is trying to resolve with this change. I bet they've discovered a bunch of unexpected ripple effects that must be dealt with to make this big change work, and the platform will be better for it overall. Better to discover this now than after July.
All these things are probably happening because they didn't plan this out and they weren't thinking when they rushed to roll out these changes. They definitely were not thinking when they closed the catalog feeds.
As this article and others have shown, there was a very real need to close the catalog feeds at least for the time being.
Or I guess HP could have rolled out the TP without any apps in the catalog, or they could have delayed the release of the TP so they could spend time hammering out the app catalog while keeping the feeds open.
I am thinking for the majority of current and future users, HP made the correct decision in closing the feeds as they start loading the TP apps.
Ok, I can see the reason for doing so for the time being, but that's not what they said. They said the feeds are closed for good. Those feeds are not coming back, which is a huge disappointment.
From the statement below in the original P|C article, it looks to me like they are looking at a different iteration of web database. My guess is there will be a computer based WebOS app store that will include mobile apps (look at the people that were still able to find 3.0 information in this post alone).
HP VP of Worldwide Developer Relations Richard Kerris chimed in in the comments of this very article, and is asking for patience from the community (whose passion continues to surprise him). He states that instead of addressing security concerns by "building a bunch of custom stores for each and every Enterprise customer," HP instead is taking "the stance of investing in our developers in a new and unique store approach that brings app discovery to a whole new level, which we think customers will really enjoy."
Well, it doesn't work on my webOS 2.1 Pre+ any more :-(
But ok, I'am already getting prepared for my Pre 3 (pre-ordered it :) ) and the Touchpad anyways.
Where did you pre-order a Pre3??
most likely an EU user
Does the "older" webOS 2.* Mojo version still exist somewhere? The 2.0 version doesn't wok anymore (obviously), and after having installed and removed it, it no longer appears in the catalog (thanks HP...).
I tried to use Impostah to get it, after finding the App ID on the Internet, and it still only gave me the 2.0 Enyo version which clearly won't work on my Pre- webOS2.1.
Please, is there somewhere you can post the older version?
Please?
M.
Sweet. Pix is the successor to PictureIt! That was one of my favorite apps.
for those of you who want to see the actual page for the interfacelift app here it is...
https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.krischeonline.webo...
Already linked as source. ;)
Vito how did you pre-order of Pre3? That's great. I would like to as well!
That's no problem if you live in Europe.
http://www.computeruniverse.net/products/90415876/hp-pre3-8gb-webos.asp
I guess the big problem when you live in the USA is, that you are bound to your carriers. I simply can buy any phone and use it with any carrier. That's probably why it is already on pre-order here.
The retailer told me that he is going to have his Pre 3s in stock on June the 17th. Like all the other retailers selling the Pre 3 it's only the 8 GB version for now. I guess the 16 GB will come a bit later.
PS: Here is a screenshot of it.
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/1623/pre3preorder.png
Wareneingang bei uns voraussichtlich erwartet am 17.06.2011 = Expecting arrival of goods at us on June the 17th 2011 (The price showing is not the actual price, it's still showing the price that it had when I pre-ordered it^^).
One of the few things you Europeans are doing better than us... :P
I'm inclined to think it will be more like Late July/Early August.
I think that it actually will ship in late June or early July. It's probably just, that HP has some agreement with some carrier to not announce anything until X days before it gets shipped.
Maybe the 16 GB version will ship later in July or something like this.
The device that everybody says that is coming at around autumn probably will be that slab-webOS phone for Sprint (and hopefully everybody else in the world).
That is at least what I'am hoping for... Am really pumped for my new phone already :)
I will keep you updated.
Gorgeous wallpaper on TouchPad will now just be a few taps away! Awesome!
I am liking everything I see about TP
I notice Sprint is included in the supported carriers on the Pix app. Since webOS 3.0 is required, does that mean....?
Along with O2 Germany, O2 Ireland, O2 UK, Rogers Wireless, SFR, Sprint, Verizon Wireless - none of whom have any announced webOS 3.0 devices.
That's just for the 'send to my phone' function. I don't think it's related to what phones a carrier supports. I presume it wouldn't work with a unlocked phone on T-Mobile for instance.
Well, thanks for p*ssing on my fish, Derek!
Why plastic why? I don't understand! Can someone please explain me?
Also, Why hp hasn't show any flagship application? Something like a beats audio music creation that goes head to head with garage band.
Why?
something like this happened with Sporting News App a few weeks ago. it let me update the app but it was a webos2.0 version. I couldn't run it and can't find an alternative 1.4.5 version.
HMMMM, the app cat shouldn't have allowed you to download a 2.0 version. So this isn't something specific to Enyo apps.
I wonder if they messed something up trying to fix the WebOS 2.0 apps on devices prior to Pre2/Veer.
Damn I used to have the sporting news app, but think I deleted it when I was cleaning up my launchers.
Sporting News isn't showing up in my app cat on 1.4.5
Any retailer who promises Pre3 in June or July is lying to you.
For those needing the old version of InterfaceLIFT, I uploaded it as a homebrew app: http://www.precentral.net/interfacelift-webos
I'm contacting HP to see if they can roll the App Catalog one back to the old version so that it works for everyone.
Thank you! :)
Might be that you will have to add a higher version number to it, so that it gets updated automatically.
I imagine Sprint is supported for TouchPad because HP struck that deal with Sprint to use its service on demand for laptops so perhaps a customer could buy on demand for a TouchPad also, not sure if it means anything about the Pre3
The name of the Linux based DVR is MythTV and not WebMyth. The client is named WebMyth2 though.
Enyo is just soooo sweet.
Now if HP saw fit to give the UI transparency and gradients, I could see people flock over from IOS to webOS. As it is, i've heard people point out that webOS is outdated because it's UI 'doesn't look like glass'.
I really wish I could afford a TouchPad at launch :( I'm sorry HP but this poor student will have to wait a few months...
Found another...TorrentTouch
https://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.rjamdev.torrenttouch
i agree and i have argued that point to. the ui looks old and out dated. there are few well designed apps for webOS graphically. phnx is beautiful though. but if transparencies and gradients were in the UI more apps would look nice.
how long will the touchpad battery last?