Jon Rubenstein promises great products for 2011 205
Jon Rubenstein took the stage at the webOS 2.0 conference without his boss, Todd Bradley, for a nice conversation about his personal history in the computer industry and some high-level overviews of where webOS is and will be in 2011. Rubinstein noted that Palm is "where we've always been" in Sunnyvale and that the integration with HP is going well despite the inevitable slow-downs that come with a major acquisition.
Rubinstein noted that they expect the number of apps for webOS to grow as HP / Palm invests more resources into the App Catalog and as it becomes obvious that the pool of webOS devices to target grows dramatically over the 12 to 18 months.
Rubinstein also noted that webOS 2.0 would be rolled out to the installed webOS customer base "over the next few months," a timeframe that's a bit longer than we'd been hoping for.
webOS fanatics looking for clear-cut hints of upcoming devices will find precious little to go on. Rubinstein promised a big 2011 when they will "aggressively" roll out new devices from a "great roadmap" of smartphones, tablets, printers, and other devices they're not quite ready to talk about yet (though we'll note that Ruby has mentioned webOS-based netbooks in the past). Asked if the upcoming hardware would put "muscle" behind webOS, Rubinstein noted that he likes to do products that are on the leading-edge of technology.
His message to the "very loyal install base" of webOS users about upcoming devices: "Be patient, they're coming."
Source: Web 2.0 Summit
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hurst
You taking to me?
Hearst
"Be patient, they're coming."
WebOS 2.ohhh?
Lets all wish for new devices in one hand and crap in the other and see which one gets filled first.
LMAO!
I ain't shaking hands with you!
that poop better have WebOS 2.0
Hey HP/Palm when you are trying to figure out why you are not getting a return on your 1.2 billion dollar investment, "BE PATIENT, IT'S COMING". Your traveling in a bus while all the other smart phone makers are flying in a jet.
CES 2011 is just a month and 2 weks away, the holidays are going to fly quick so, why not wait to see what they come up with. I'm on sprint too and want a new device, been holding out to see what comes out from hp. Also, new phones with dual processors, faster processors are coming and if we jump ship now we will miss the oppurtunity to get some of those phones
agreed, thats what im wating for... these high-end phones that are coming out now are nice and all but imo they arnt that much of an upgrade from what i have now (pre-). i think i want my next phone to b duel-core cuz it will load everything instantly and will b very good on battery consumption... i think imma hold out and not jump the gun. i cant wait to show off the phone i get to the haters with evos and epics and whatnots and have them b like "wooh"
Ok.
They better bring the hardware at CES because Samsung, Google, HTC and the rest are bringing hardware that HPalm better at least match, to get anyone's interest.
yay be patient, I've been patient for the freaking year since verizon got the pre plus!
12-18 months? They will have a hard time getting back in the game with that timeframe. This market moves FAST.
OVER the next 12 months.
What he means is that OVER the next 12-18 months they have a roadmap with devices in place.
So that doesnt mean that its going to take 12 months for the first device to show up.
It means that they have planned out the next 12-18 months already, which is much more awesome than when you take it out of context like you did.
I sincerely hope that turns out to be true, but you will forgive me if I am a bit cynical about just how far I can trust such pronouncements.
I forgive you... sort of lol :)
No new devices before Christmas?! Bah humbug!!
Hey, it's only market share. And, we all know that developers don't care about such silly little things. All they want to do is to create something for praise and not money.
When not feeding no chicken heads and table scraps, you can often hear them say around Christmas, "God bless us, every one".
@Dave.m.elliot
So then WP7 should have NO developers by your statement since they have ZERO marketshare and nothing but POTENTIAL at this point. (along with hopes and dreams it will do well with that potential.
The difference being is that Microsoft actually has WP7 devices in the market.
I thought there was some special showing after the talk. Anybody knows anything?
He wouldnt say how many webOS users are there. Kept on avoiding it. Here is the answer: Less than 3 million.
I think it is because the number keeps changing so quickly - downward. Hope they have a good plan!
their plan is quite simple. waiting so we all die out and forget about webOS and palm (:
Telling these people to be patient is like telling a starving lion not to attack. People don't know the meaning of the word.
I Agree. Its Almost Pathetic
I dont see how patience is "pathetic"
Last I checked "Patience is a Virtue"
Patience makes Sprint's annual upgrade pointless.
Maybe Sprint and Palm ARE working together after all! Look at all the upgrade dollars Sprint is saving thanks to HP/Palm!
It is only pointless if you intend to purchase a new phone every year.
Thats actually a good theory :)
I've been patient since June of 2009 with my crappy hardware and amazing OS (Sprint Subscriber... sigh).
Someone asked about dual core on phones and he said we would get the latest and greatest. That was good, really good. Whenever it comes.
Sounded like a hint to me. I'm still excited and looking forward to webOS 2.0 even more. Sorli...
Come on Sorli. We've all analyzed and dissected everything from the lips of Palm over the past year looking for hints and all we have to show for it is a French Pre 2.
Even the most loyal Palm fanatics are starting to notice that the emperor is looking a little naked.
Okay, I get what you mean, but heck...at least his talk didn't make me throw-up. Sorli...
EXACTLY! He said they love to be on the leading edge of technology.So expect Dual core processors/iphone (or higher) displays/larger screens/front facing cameras/higher resolution cameras and so forth. I never expected a new device announcement or any information outside of what was said. I don't understand why everyone is mad. We've all agreed/accepted (for the most part)that the phone(s) we're really interested in won't be announced until January. So why get mad and January isn't here yet? Look at what he said; He promised a big 2011,said they will "aggressively" roll out new devices, webos would be rolled out to the current user base and they're expecting more apps as Palm/HP invest more resources. Sounds to me like they have a plan and are addressing many of the things we've been discussing in the forums.
I think I just threw up in my mouth.
Promises don't make customers or investors happy, products do. Rooting for Palm is like rooting for a sports team: Maybe next year...
be patient my ass. another several months? unbelievable... I thought 2.0 would come like mid decembre or something. what are they doing this whole time?
He said it, "since the acquisition they've been trying to figure out their vacation but NOW they are back to work". Good grief!
taken completely out of context again. They are working VERY hard and have been since the acquisition.
LOL!
Several months? Ok. "Be patient"? Sure. I haven't heard anything yet that is inspiring me to not want Android.
Pre2 on Sprint while we wait.
guys just "be patient" they are "aggressively" working on phones from a "great roadmap". You'll have an array of superphones to choose from after the merger....I mean...in September....I mean around Christmas....I mean at CES....I mean within the next 1-18 months.
Hahahahaha.....that's just silly. You can cash anything that comes out of Rubinstein's mouth like a certified check. Palm had plans to remain independent, according to him on the final earnings call, and those plans consisted of soliciting buyers. Low sales were always the result of "lack of training" of retail employees. Palm had "an aggressive roadmap" they were working on in March, and the end result was the Pre 2. He thought Apple "wouldn't mind" the iTunes spoofing, and THAT turned out well. Don't forget that Palm had a plan for "profitability" too.
Does anything this guy says ever pan out?
I think I just threw up in my mouth.
I'd have that checked out...seeing as this is the second time in the space of a few minutes
ROFL.
I can't believe how optimistic the spin is in that recap.
+1
As a tech guy Rubenstein should be well aware of the fact that patience is not generally a big part of the early adopter personality.
I've had my Pre for 15 months, the 'new and cool' has worn off. webOS is terrific, hands down the best smartphone OS, but it's not enough to offset what is now low end hardware.
Plus, as a Sprint customer, I am going to have to watch the Johnny Come Latelies over at Verizon get webOS 2.0 with not even a hint from Sprint that I can expect the upgrade before year end.
I am not feeling the love from HP and vague requests for patience are not helpful. If HP is really waiting for CES to unveil its plans they are being stupid.
"be patient".
I've been patient! My upgrade (Sprint) has been available to me since June! I keep waiting... First for the "aggressive roadmap"... Next for WebOS 2.0... Now for CES 2011! I could have had TWO devices by the time the next Palm phone will be debuted!
We all know CES will be another batch of "look what will be coming in the next few months" talk. Does anyone actually believe that there will be a new phone (other than the Pre2) before June or July?
Don't kid yourself. Waiting for HP/palm is wasting my yearly upgrade!!!!!!!!!
If HPalm comes to CES with more "In a few months" talk about what they will "eventually" bring to market, while Samsung, Google, and others bring Android super phones that show up sooner, forget it. I'll bounce to Android.
Sprint isn't going to carry any webOS products anytime soon because of the issues they are having with Clearwire. Sprint needs money and will only being go with products that are currently hot. Until HP shows proof that they have webOS products that eat green bills, we won't see any webOS devices on Sprint.
My 4th replacement Pre minus is failing. Can only hear through speakerphone or headset. Makes me wonder about some HTC build, gotta admit.
Ok, so if you can only hear out of the only two speakers on the Pre, what's the problem?
Edit: Ah, you mean the speaker on the front doesn't work and you have to CONNECT a headset. Ok, same page.
I think it's time to kiss the slider styles goodbye. They just can't compare with with slab/candybar build quality.
I think I just threw up in my mouth again.
Third times a charm.
Stop swallowing it...
..and now 3rd
If people cant be patient, they should go get an android phone or whatever to hold them over and stop complaining. Then when Palm comes out with a new phone with the "latest and greatest" technology, they can come back and get back on the band wagon. Simple as that.
Yeah! So there!
Pretty much the logical idea. Peeps can get that GalaxyS tablet in the mean time to quench the annual thirst for new tech. Phone is a phone no matter the brand.
Pretty much a dumb idea. Why would I shell out the cash for a product I only wanted b/c my first choice wasn't available? Sure, if you want to waste your money, or collect a bunch of tech to replace the friends you don't have.
and this was the highlight of the week? Ouch. Pre-holiday depression is creeping in!
"be patient"
I have been. That's why I'm still here. I'm just becoming impatient. aggravated, too! I find myself losing the passion I had for this phone and OS. I find my self liking what I read about the Pre2 and I can't look at it to decide if I want to get it because Sprint and Palm can't see eye to eye.
So a rollout of webOS 2.0 in the coming months? Hmm there's only two months before the year is over and he (and others) at Palm were quoted saying that webOS will be released before the year is over. Oh wait...the Pre 2 has webOS 2.0!
I'm excited about the roadmap for 2011 as JR is saying it will be a major time for webOS however, we (Sprint) are in definite need of something new to hold us over until then.
...if not new hardware, at least webOS 2.0!
Why I would get a Pre 2:
+ glass screen
+ 1ghz processor (more efficient)
+ webOS 2.0
+ matte finish
+ overall better build quality
It has the same form factor? So what...there are hundreds of Android phones that look identical. We overclock our Pre's to 1ghz already? The new processor is more efficient w/ power consumption, is stable @ 1ghz and is actually faster than current processor @ 1ghz OC'd.
Just give us something!!!
I'd buy a Pre 2 this week if Sprint would carry it. I think it is more Sprint's fault than HP/Palm in this case though :(
You need to stop talking out your ass, 'cause your breath stinks... J/K
When doing side by side tests, the Pre+ Overclocked was slightly better (faster) than the Pre 2.
Gotta' love the gorilla glass though...
Still a point on being more efficient. Finally started trying the 720 MHz OC and notice the difference in drain when putting it to task (browsing, Angry Birds, etc). A 1 GHz chip meant to run at that speed and use a bit less power than the old one at 500 MHz would be enough to say "Yes please!" for me.
wait so no pre 2 this year?
The Pre 2 will most likely drop on Verizon this year.
The Coming Months was for WebOS 2.0 on legacy devices.
Please don't say "legacy devices" ever again.
By "legacy devices" he actually means "orphaned flagship devices in America."
I will accept that terminology.
Does anyone else find it ironic that Rubys Palm is fuzzy in the screenshot?
that's because he works for Palm...duh.
I've had the Pre since launch day. My upgrade has been available since June when the EVO launched. I've been waiting for apps, os update, hardware. I've waited and waited and waited. I may wait until CES. If nothing is announced on Sprint (to be followed by launch within a month not 6 months later) I will no longer wait. I'm not going to wait for the two year contract I renewed in June of 2009 to be up before I get a new phone.
wait until CES. If they dont announce anything I think everyone here is splitting. I know I am.
+1
+100,000,000,000,000
+999,999,999,999,999 (10 times more than the last guy)
The way this is going now.... They might announce at CES:
we have great devices coming, stay tuned. Why can't we get any info of upcoming devices? BB announced playbook with webOS look alike and we can't even get a prototype picture of palmPAD?. Palm hoped do to hot app contest we would get more apps.... Still waiting for them... And now we might have to wait 12 to 18 months.
Palm is a huge innovator, and so is HP, they have the ability to come out with some very unique devices.
All RIM did was copy WebOS for their Playbook. If you copy someones ideas you can announce it as soon as possible, theres no fear of someone taking your IP, you already stole it from someone else.
Palm and HP are worried that other companies will see what is coming out, and then adapt their systems to catch up to what Palm/HP has innovated.
They are playing quiet because essentially, it is impossible to stop IP and ideas from being 'borrowed.'
They want to catch the competition completely off guard, so iOS and Android have a harder time playing catchup this time around.
If RIM releases the Playbook first, and it reaches a lot of people that the PalmPad could/should have reached, then the PalmPad is released, it will look like webOS is the copy-cat to those who aren't familiar with it.
And this is exactly what I'm worried about for the tablets. We already know how it hurts to love webOS and see so many phone devs on Android and iOS ignore the crap out of us.
RIM aped a lot of the things I love about webOS and dumped them into fricken Flash. Flash! Lame.
So now they're like to steal a chunk of market from webOS tablets leaving "more discerning" technophiles in the lurch once again as far as app and mind share go.
Better blow some minds at CES and onward, HPalm. As hard as you can.
You wont have to wait 12 months. That was the time that they have planned out their next offering of devices to release OVER that time.
OVER that time for fucks sakes...OVER! LISTEN TO WHAT PEOPLE ARE SAYING! Dont just hear what you wish.
I am enforcing my new rule... I will not hit the update button on my pre again until there is official word 2.0 is ready
Promises,promises, that's all we EVER GET! SHOW US SOMETHING, ANYTHING! I have been patient for 15 months so you people who say to be patient STOP!!! WE HAVE BEEN PATIENT, most of us! All we have been getting is ALL TALK and NO ACTION!!!!
Really? 15 months. . . Really? So you must have stood in line for your Pre on launch day, then gone home, taken it out of the box, and then said to yourself "I'm tired of this. Where's the Pre 2?"
With "patience" like that I don't think anything - especially a phone - is going to make you happy.
I'm pretty sure people bought the phone and were then like - where's the flash that was promised? Where is document editing that was supposed to follow? Where is mojo messaging? Oh, I have to WAIT. I could go on but I think that should clarify for you.
LOL people on here are really losing it. I can't understand why they're acting all bent out of shape. Who expected any devices of any os to be announced at a damn summit? If you want a droid or iphone you would've left by now. Its obvious why we stick around.....webos. I'm with you in the thoughts of new hardware would put webos over the top. Yes i do agree. But that's not why the iphone is successful. It's the ecosytem that they've created. Like someone above said, they want to catch the competition off guard. They WILL still your ideas if you let them. Remember how everyone stole the concept of how synergy would work? Palm doesn't want to go through that again. It took too long from the time of announcement to release and by that time companies kind of stole webos' thunder. So look at january as a time when HP/Palm will announce not only their devices, but their ecosystem with a release probably within a month. That way all the publicity will be theirs.
no biggie,,i wanted a new toy,,my evo will be here tomorrow,when ever a equal or better device is released with webos,i will be first in line.
It's just that we Sprint subscribers that got the original Pre on launch day feel like we have been royally screwed by Sprint.
We saw better hardware launch on other carriers (Pre Plus) and now are seeing that new hardware is coming out for other carriers (Pre 2), and now Sprint has EOL'd the Pre.
Sprint is making no mention of any new Web OS hardware coming out in the future.
Verizon and AT&T plans cost more and GPS is FUBAR on Verizon.
I stood by Sprint when all their phones sucked (and they were hemorrhaging subscribers) and they came out with the Pre. I don't think they are standing by me now.
What is up with this whole being "left out" view? Let me ask this. If you got a pre plus and a pre 2 came before your contract was up would you be mad? What about if the pre2 was released on sprint next month, you got it and then the "super phone" was released two months later? Would it be Sprint's or Palm's fault that you would have to wait at least another year (sprint premiere) or pay full price to upgrade? Sprint is more than likely going to be (at least one of) the first companies to carry whatever phone is announced in what, less than two months? I would rather be the first to get one of those phones instead of a rehashed pre/pixi that doesn't have much going for it.
"Now, Now, Now!" You guys sound like children. At the time you bought your Pre/Pixi, that is what you wanted at the time and got it. NOW you want something else, and Palm doesnt have it for you.....so leave! Stop acting like children, be an adult and solve your own problem of wanting a better phone by .... wait for it ... GETTING A NEW PHONE! There are plenty of options out there! If its a new WEBOS phone you want, then sit down and wait like everyone else. No sense in flooding the forums and comments with your childish bickering because it solves nothing.
Now go one, Android and Apple are waiting.
Still Here?????
Ahhh, thats right. Children need to be held by the hand.
I want a new webOS phone....now.
Now?
Yup. Now.
Right Now!, Right Now?
While I think many comments are childish I do not think frustration is childish. People have invested a lot into their phones, whether it be in the form of money (apps, accessories) or time (learning the ins and outs of an OS, it's patches etc) and have reasonable expectations that a phone revealed in January of 2009 would see an update on the same carrier. I actually find the 'love it or leave it' mentality to be more childish than those who voice displeasure.
Agreed, there is nothing wrong with voicing displeasures. But its the tone of voice that makes a difference. I too want a new phone or at least an announcement of one. But Im not going to sit here and make countless posts about how stupid Palm is or how much I think the Pre2 sucks. One valid post is all that is needed. Just like you agree with me (in a sense) but didnt like the "childish" statement. Its all about tone and even being a little educated and have valid points. Not just "This sucks! i want front facing camera now! screw palm!"
well, no. "love it or leave it".. .isn't childish. because really, at the end of the day, it's a bloody cell phone.. and if that controls or takes over emotions in someone's daily routine, then maybe some help should be sought after.
it's quite simple.. if a device leaves someone that unhappy, then go, because a) it's not doing any good for themselves b) it's doing no good for a community and c) it leaves room to worry about more important issues in life
but whatever. to each their own
Sorry dad. I thought the forums were places people could talk, vent their frustrations, get excited, get angry, and basically show their passion for the pre and webOS. I guess we're just not as mature as you are.
I just puked in my mouth. Again.
Better get you some Tums or Pepto Bismol. Might help with all of the bloating from the "hot air" we received today too! :)
Now now, don't act so childish.
I guess the whole "puked in the mouth" thing really showed me? Listen, im not here to bash anyone. I dont mind people doing a little venting. I myself just did. But how many times are people going to repeat the same thing over and over again? I agree with most of the complains ive heard, and I understand the frustrations. But comments like "you are childish" and "puking in my mouth" arent needed. If i wanted to see that kind of nonsense, I would read comments on YouTube.
Wait, I'm confused. Comments like "you are childish" aren't needed here? I thought you were the one who started in on calling the forum members here children. Remember, you were going to hold our hands? Remember?
rofl
Explain to me how having passion for webos is threatening to leave for another os everytime something you want doesn't happen? If someone's passion was basketball but they didn't care for any other sport. Would it make sense to go play/watch baseball because your team didn't win a championship? How do we know the next device announced will have everything you/me or someone else wants? What if its an all touchscreen device? What about a landscape slider and no portrait? Then what? No matter what happens someone will complain and say they're leaving. It's damn there impossible to please some of the people on here.
On the flipside, some people here are so indoctrinated into the Palm vs the World propaganda that any dissent is a sign of unacceptable disloyalty to them.
+1 Googleplex (i win! =] )
P|C has got to be one of the only forums with THIS many trolls that DON'T own or have GOTTEN RID OF their Palm device and STILL come here to bash every day.
*sigh* Mods just aren't what they used to be...
I still love my Pre minus and would be happy to keep it another year. If the battery holds up.
But as a Sprint boy, there's also the fact that the release came six months after announcement on *top* of getting put on hold for (likely) a year and a half for a refresh without any word from the mother ship.
It's easy enough to get jealous when on all the other platforms the cycles tend toward releasing a month after announcing with refreshes at least once a year.
Anyhow... my rabid "new new new" attitude died when I got my Pre. It's still nice and makes me happy. Maybe other folks just haven't learned the devil that is gadget lust yet.
Palm's corporate motto should be "Coming Soon..."
I'm surprised that one thing Rubenstein didn't learn when he was at Apple (that I think has been a big part of their success) is that they rarely announce anything until they can also announce a ship date and they rarely miss a ship date. It is hard to build hype around nebulous announcements and vague ship dates that tend to keep drifting into the future.
"Coming Soon..." would be more palatable if they've ever actually delivered on anything.
What did Rubinstein promise for 2010? I hope nothing because that's what we got.
they promised us webOS 2.0 and it's looking less and less likely that we'll be getting that by the end of the year unless we buy a pre2.
microphone API (Fall 2010)
Camera API
WEbos2.0
Flash (2009?)
I cannot think of one good reason why anyone would be patient in waiting for the webos 2.0 update to be delivered to existing (Sprint) Pre users. They went from "in the coming months" to "over the next few months." Both are meaningless, non-committal statements. Someone needs to get it together. If the update has been given to the carriers, then Palm needs to get on the ball and make sure it gets sent out to us ASAP (like today). If it has not been given to the carriers, then Palm still needs to get on the ball and get it out to them. Either way, existing customers are being short-changed. If the work is done on the 2.0 update, then why the hold-up? Are they trying to rid themselves of the base that has given webos the popularity it now has? It doesn't make any sense! All I really want is Adobe Flash on my Pre--which I should have had a long, long, long, long, long time ago. The other benefits of webos 2.0 are surely welcome as well. Come on Palm, get it together!!!
I almost added another line to my sprint account so I can get a new phone, but sitting there I realized my phone still works great. Plus the phones that are out right now doesn't really make me want to drop a couple hundred. I want this shit done right, so patience is a virtue that I will exercise. If I get tired of waiting, I'll get a new phone. By Feb. We will have even more phones from different brands to choose from. I made it this far, it's too late to turn back now. I think those can't wait really should go out and get a new phone. The complaining is getting real old.
hey HP & Palm... You be patient as I promise I will buy HP products again soon, maybe in the coming months, oh it's November... So maybe next yr like in 2011... Oh my fiscal yr is June so maybe 2012... So be patient as I have lots of cash coming soon... Really..
VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET..
same ole bull shit. We Sprint people are being screwed again.
Done, gone, bye-bye, This is pure corporate hogwash! Holding out for vapor-hardware is silly! Ruby and the rest of the HP guys had better wake up, cuz the train has left the station! If they truly had anything worth showing they would be talking it up so that the "extremely loyal user base" wouldn't be feeling like they are getting jerked around! I hate this because WebOS is hands-down the best but so was Betamax from Sony...anybody using Betamax now days? I rest my case...really looking forward to my new Epic!
All the chicken littles came out warning about the death of Palm on cue. Wow guys...
Time to go get some Android goodness and then be able to compare where Gingerbread (or likely it's 3 successors are at on quad core devices) when Palm finally does something beyond the Pre 2.
The check is in the mail. I love you. And, what was that third most common lie?
I would like to wait patiently for a new phone but the hardware on my Pre (June '09) is dying and I fear I will need a replacement soon. Since it's over a year old I no longer have a warranty. I don't think my phone will last to CES and there is no way I'm going to blow my upgrade on another Pre Minus.
I've been waiting for Palm but I don't know how much longer I can hold out.
Web 2.0 Conference, not webOS 2.0 conference.
"Be patient, they're coming."
Whatever... who cares... Does anyone else have HP/Palm fatigue? We wait forever and ever, then get a spec bump and no carrier love. So we'll wait forever until January when the super pbone is announced at CES but will take months to release. I'm tired of it all.
+1
I am tired of waiting. And in the current situation the information and communication strategy of HP Palm is not very clever. There is still no clear roll out date for the webOS 2.0 Update. No hinds no appetizers for people that wait for new hardware longer than any other smartphone user.
The unveilling of new devices on the CES does not mean that we get 'em immediately ...... In Germany we had to wait for the Pre for 10 Months after the CES!!
I agree, i am becoming frustrated. But to say webos users have been waiting the longest for new devices isn't true. Remember what windows mobile was before windows phone 7. Think about how long they had to wait. Now, (at least for the windows mobile loyalists) their patience is paying off. They've waited for years for any kind of meaningful update.
Never tell your customers to "be patient... they're coming."
What a dumb ass.
I'm sorry but we've been waiting around forever and they bring out a pre 2 with mediocre stats?
Excuse me while I don't jump for joy as they just let web OS slip through the cracks...
They best hurry up or I'm switch'n to android. Period.
I just threw up watching morr throw up. By the way thanks for the false advertisement of itunes sync and flash when I bought my phone. Nice api's too, I love the options of fart apps and spammed brighthouse. I'm buying the verizon iphone because that will be out sooner. Also steven jobs won't jew me nearly as hard as you have rubby.
Wow........
At least the Sprint customers are WAY beyond waiting now. Passed on many 4G phones just for Sprint EOLed the Pre and not a peep for it's successor. Sprint customers have long since deserve a leak or Sprint being straight on the future of webos right now, not later. Later came and gone 6 months ago cannot reasonably ask the base to wait longer for the successor for they will finally move on.
will one of them be coming to sprint
Posted: Do not feed the trolls.
That is all.
Please don't - we've been known to throw up!
What is a troll? A troll is "a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community".
Hmmm, sounds like Jon Rubenstein can be defined as being a troll too.
He should be talking about phones instead he is talking about patience. That, by definition, is inflammatory, extraneous and off-topic!!
I wonder how many rants here are Sprint customers......
Guilty.
99%
Posted: Do not feed the trolls.
That is all.
What is a troll? A troll is "a troll is someone who posts inflammatory, extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community".
Hmmm, sounds like Jon Rubenstein can be defined as being a troll too.
He should be talking about phones instead he is talking about patience. That, by definition, is inflammatory, extraneous and off-topic!!
I have been patient. I am quite content with the device palm pre GSM...but it needs improvement. webOS is cool, but it needs improvement.
Those suits are not to be taken seriously...the way this market is moving I am close to switch to the new comin' LG or HTC or Samsung with ANDROID...
I want to have the possibilities...they are available.
WHAT HAVE THESE software devs at palm done during the past year?
Nutters, original nutters so far.
I'm becoming very impatient jon!
Posted: Do not feed the trolls.
That is all.
I'm a sprint customer and I'm sick of being lied too and jerked around. That's why I'm ranting. Nobody here is trolling. It's called letting off steam.
yall doing all this complaining. and all the webOS enthusiasts have left palm... so their is no one any longer checking the forums are these post send your discontent to palm directly...
that is all.
uh, what?