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Jon Rubinstein moves to SVP of Product Innovation role, Stephen DeWitt takes over webOS GBU 95

by Derek Kessler Mon, 11 Jul 2011 4:43 pm EDT

Things are shaking up at the HP Palm Global Business Unit: SVP and PGBU General Manager Jon Rubinstein has been moved to a new role – SVP of Product Innovation in the HP Personal Systems Group – and Stephen DeWitt is taking over. DeWitt comes in from leading HP’s Personal Systems Group Americas region and will fill the SVP and General Manager roles of the webOS (no longer Palm) Global Business Unit in place of Rubinstein.

Rubinstein, if you’ll recall, was brought on to Palm back in 2007 and guided the company during the development of webOS. He later became CEO of Palm, and then helped the company towards its acquisition by HP. His new role is somewhat vaguely titled, likely on purpose. “With the launch of webOS 3.0, our team has delivered a world-class platform for HP to leverage going forward, and it is now time to take things to the next level,” said Rubinstein. “With webOS under Stephen DeWitt’s proven leadership, I’m looking forward to my new role and driving further innovation for webOS and other PSG products.”

One can’t help but wonder if the shuffling is part of HP’s getting better control over webOS. While Palm lost many senior executives during the acquisition process, Rubinstein and many Palm employees remained in place during the past year. Rubinstein’s new role could potentially have him working with the PGBU, but he’ll be working across the entire Personal Systems group (HP’s personal computers division).

DeWitt brings a track record of success with him to the webOS division. While leading Personal Systems Americas, DeWitt was responsible for rising profits and share position. Before that he led a Java development house Azul, Sun, and Cisco. HP Executive Vice President, Personal Systems Group, Todd Bradley (the guy who oversees all things HP personal computing, including PGBU) had glowing words for DeWitt:

"Stephen DeWitt has a proven ability to build and scale organizations into global, multibillion dollar operations, and I am confident that he will take webOS to the next level. At the same time, we continue to leverage the core strengths of Silicon Valley icon Jon Rubinstein to apply his considerable talents across the PSG portfolio."

Welcome to the Palm Global Business Unit, Mr. DeWitt. You're coming in at a time of great transition and potential, and it's clear HP has a lot of faith in you. This is a bit different than running the hardware division for a hemisphere - the software here is just as - if not more - important as the hardware. Good luck!

Full press release after the break.

HP to Drive Innovation, Scale and Growth of webOS  

Stephen DeWitt to lead HP’s webOS global business unit; Jon Rubinstein named senior vice president of product innovation for PSG

PALO ALTO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Building on the successful launch of HP webOS 3.0, HP (NYSE: HPQ) today announced it is accelerating the global expansion of webOS.

To support this next phase of growth, HP has appointed Stephen DeWitt as senior vice president and general manager of its webOS global business unit. Jon Rubinstein, the visionary behind webOS, will assume a product innovation role within the Personal Systems Group (PSG) at HP.

This announcement underscores HP’s strategy to provide a seamless, secure, context-aware experience across HP’s product portfolio, and to deliver innovation at unmatched scale.

“With the successful debut of our first wave of webOS-based products, we are drawing on our deep executive bench to position the right leaders in the right roles to accelerate the long-term growth of webOS,” said Todd Bradley, executive vice president, Personal Systems Group, and member of the Executive Board, HP. “Stephen DeWitt has a proven ability to build and scale organizations into global, multibillion dollar operations, and I am confident that he will take webOS to the next level. At the same time, we continue to leverage the core strengths of Silicon Valley icon Jon Rubinstein to apply his considerable talents across the PSG portfolio.”

DeWitt, who has been leading the PSG Americas region at HP, will be responsible for all aspects of the webOS business, including engineering, research and development, sales, marketing and go-to-market support. In his new role, DeWitt will spearhead the creation of a fully integrated, global developer and independent software vendor program to deliver new consumer and business applications. DeWitt’s team also will create a dedicated mobility practice with HP’s partner community, with the goal of delivering consumer and enterprise solutions globally.

DeWitt has dramatically improved PSG’s profitability and share position in the America’s region since his arrival to HP in 2008. He is succeeded by Stephen DiFranco, head of the Solutions Partners Organization for the Americas region at HP.

“Innovation is at the core of webOS, and I look forward to working with our talented team of engineers as we strive to develop the industry’s most compelling set of products, solutions and services in markets around the world,” said DeWitt. “As part of our investment in the future of webOS, we are working in lock step with the developer community, our channel partners and the start-up community to create an application ecosystem that delivers on HP’s mobile connectivity strategy.”

Jon Rubinstein has been named senior vice president for Product Innovation in the Personal Systems Group at HP. He will continue to report to Todd Bradley in this role, helping to propel innovation across product lines. HP will leverage Rubinstein’s passion for building exceptional consumer products and his long history of driving game changing innovation, such as webOS.

“With the launch of webOS 3.0, our team has delivered a world-class platform for HP to leverage going forward, and it is now time to take things to the next level,” said Rubinstein. “With webOS under Stephen DeWitt’s proven leadership, I’m looking forward to my new role and driving further innovation for webOS and other PSG products.”

Source: BusinessWire

95 Comments

Thank god they're taking the reigns away from Jon. Let's hope we get an actually competitive product refresh cycle now.

I feel bad for the guy, but he was not pulling it off and I wish him the best in his next role. Here is to hoping this is the first step in the right direction.

Well I don't think that Jon is "incompetent". It just wasn't the right position for him. He is better suited more towards the engineering part (what he apparently is going to do now).

If it wasn't the right position for him, then he certainly was incompetent at that position.

Thank goodness. Now we can get past his giant ego and get the hardware and apps we need.

Put him to work making ANY update for the Pre legacy devices. And don't let his work PC have Flash or write access to Office. And for f***ing out loud, make him use an Iphone for two weeks!

Sorry, he's incompetent. He's proud of the fact he's never used an iPhone.

Sorry, when you are the head of a tech company, you HAVE to look at what the competition is doing to evaluate your own product on the market. To know what it's real strengths and weaknesses are, and where the market is going.

If you have one or two kooky GUI designers who don't want to 'contaminate' themselves with others ides, that's great. But the top guy has to know what's going on. He doesn't. He's incompetent. Thinking the Pre3 will be anywhere near parity with new phones coming out by the time it will show's he's completely out of touch.

When they made this press release, Jon Rubenstein's quote should have been, "You'll be hearing more about the great innovations I'll bring to this position in coming months, stay tuned."

Then Stephen DeWitt's quote should have been, "We're gonna be releasing five phones by the end of the year, one device every month. Don't worry guys, 'in the coming months' is in the past now."

Good riddance.

Good bye Jon, and your smug interviews. Now HP cycle starts again, with new leadership and vision, make good use of webOS which Mateas Duarte created, not Ruby. By the time they get this in order I will be buying an iPhone 6 (not a typo). Fare thee well. Way to mess up a good thing.

So Ruby got promoted right?

I actually liked Ruby, I have been following Palm since its Treo days and when it almost collapsed, Jon did bring it back up.

this is a demotion.

He did save Palm back then, but it's clear now HP should have replaced him last year. This is now 2 years wasted in a row. Not sure how you recover from that.

It was clear back then as well.

Crystal. But I guess HP finally learned what "the definition of insanity" was, and decided to try for a different result.

lmao, can't believe ruby was alowed to make 3 of the same devices in a row and get away with it.

I don't think so. i think he got demoted. It says they'll essentially swap roles and Jon will report to Dewitt.

It says "He will continue to report to Todd Bradley in this role" Todd Bradley is DeWitt's boss as well

Ok. i must have misread it.

this is a demotion/kick sideways. And as Derek pointed out, Ruby's title is vague so his work can be unstructured and he can leave HP whenever he wants.

Should be interesting to see how the "WebOS" GBU moves forward. Palm was essentially a startup when Ruby took over and ran like one. A lot of innovation but not much structure so a lot of things got dropped. With an HP guy in charge, expect a lot more structure. But this may drive away the last of the innovators (most have left already). It remains to be seen if execution improves.

The last person to hold this position in HP quickly moved on to another company. See ya Jon, don't let the door hit you on the rear.

He'll be leaving, in coming months.

Good news to get some new blood in there. Unfortunately happening too late for many webOS fans who are jumping ship already. Will take Stephen a year to put his stamp on things.....far too long for most of us to hold out.

Still, hoping that DeWitt can engineer a fast turnaround and instill some confidence in webOS for the user base, carriers, and developers. I feel like the whole system is foundering with the soft Veer launch, tepid Touchpad reviews, Pre3 limbo release date (which should have integrated with the Touchpad launch), and lack of carrier support in general.

i think webos lovers should really hope Dewitt, unlike, ruby has actually used a iphone and an ipad 2 so they know what the competition is and what they are competing against. like i heard in the this is mynext podcast sometimes you just want these guys to pick up an iphone so they have a clue what the competition is actually offering.

Agree. All HP execs need to test and understand the competition and understand how quickly they are moving. HP has some great ideas, its the speed of execution (and quality of it) that has the issue.

i just thought that when Ruby said such things it was just naive and needlessly arrogant. Like i'm sure Mercedes has some BMWs around just to see what the competition is up to.

Even Samsung, in public mind you, fondled the ipad 2, and publically said we need to go back to the drawing board. So even they are using the competition. And amazingly they did go back to the drawing board and got a product to market faster. which still amazes me.

Well, it took them almost 6 months (which still is FAST) to actually ship that product in higher numbers.

But Samsung can do that, as most of their process is in-house, unlike HP who has to contract a company for each part of their hardware and first build a production cycle before they can start. Also of course Samsung has a bit more expertise in these kind of things.

i think it was actually less then 6. I think it was just over 3 months, but i may be wrong. I thought the ipad 2 was announced march 2 and the 10.1 was officially hit u.s. soil on june 8th and was widely available june 10th. Either way that's fricken amazing. That's literally not settling.

The other thing is samsung produces tons of it's components like memory, chips, possibly even the glass but i don't remember. But when you also build skycrapers, supertankers, and oil platforms along with consumer electronics i think they pretty much have a lot of belief that they can just change things up like that.

Actually, Samsung doesn't necessarily uses parts made in-house. Their division need to play the same game as any other vendor.

I like Ruby and I hate for this to happen to him, but he did fail in delivery products to consumers. Launching the pixi was a mistake, and so was the pre+. The advertising was horrible and innovation made by Palm quickly vanished as products weren't delivered on time.

don't think it's too late. a good foundation has been laid, now it's all about executing the plan and dewitt seems to be the right guy to get the rubber hit the road, in the next 6 months latest.

Alright, thanks you two. Sucks that it happened but I guess it was inevitable. It runs in the game

Anyways, probably not that hard for a former CEO to find a new job if he wanted to, right?

Ruby's Resume

Palm Phones = Fail

HP Veer = Fail

Touchpad = Fail

Pre3 = We may never know????? Probably a Fail.

Not sure we are going to miss him. Maybe someone there will be able to get a real phone made with a large screen and virtual keyboard.

And this is why the comments section has become so depressing

No, this is why the state of WebOS has become so depressing. The comments reflect that, not the other way around.

+1000...man, they do have fun over here, don't they?

a couple of ppl, not palm fan boys have mention recently that the veer is a surprise hit.

one of these is apple fan boy andy anatko (sp) of the chicago sun times.

The Veer is ranked #45 on Amazon, and it's selling for ONE PENNY. Not a surprise, and not a hit either.

$.01 on Amazon, FREE at Best Buy.

Whatever journalist says it's a hit, stop reading his columns, they are worthless.

you are a fool if you listen to andy anatko. the guy sounds like he did too many drugs in the 70s

Why do you come here? Please, oh please, go away.

I wouldn't say a fail on the Palm phones. The initial build quality of the Sprint Palm Pre wasn't good, but the Pre Plus was decent, and if it had been released with good marketing, it would have sold fairly well.

Here's the thing, the Blackberry Torch had a lot of advertising behind it by AT&T, and even though it was fairly close to the Pre Plus, it came out months after the Pre Plus, yet had NOTHING going for it in terms of the OS. The Torch got a fair amount of attention from customers as a result. If the Pre Plus got even half of the marketing push that the Torch had, it would have sold VERY well, especially with the Touchstone. 500-600MHz with 512MB of RAM was right up there with the iPhone 3GS in terms of specs, and when the Pre Plus first came out, that was the current iPhone. So, marketing fail, not phone fail.

The Veer....tiny phone, clearly a niche device. If it were sold at the same time as the Pre 3 and Touchpad as a part of a full set of products, it would have worked better. Still, 800MHz in such a tiny device is decent, and some would like it.

Touchpad is still a case of "we need the Pre 3 to go along with it." With the Pre 3 and Touch to Share, there should have been big sales of the Touchpad. As it stands now, people are waiting on the Pre 3, and won't bother with the Touchpad until they have their Pre 3.

The really big fail is letting the carriers decide if/when an update can come out, and this has caused all the fragmentation issues out there. If they had done an over the air update to WebOS 2.x from 1.4.5, or even a system where the user has to do a device backup to a computer ala the iPhone to do an OS update to WebOS 2, that would have allowed the ecosystem to avoid the fragmentation that is keeping SOME developers away. Even now, I have my WebOS 2.1 on the original Pre Plus, and the only real issue is that text messaging causes the entire device to pause when a new message comes in. I cranked the speed to 1GHz, but it was fine at 500/600MHz on the Pre Plus, except for the text messaging causing that pause. That could be fixed since it's the only real problem I have encountered.

As a CEO? iffy. He could probably parlay his pioneering work on the iPod into a engineering role somewhere though.

When the TouchPad reviews hit, I began a count down to this announcement. WebOS is too critical to HP's strategy to endure that kind of beating and not make a public statement as to how they intend to get the train back on the tracks. In the end, Ruby was probably more of a visionary and less of an operator and what's needed right now is a flawless operator who can crank out the TouchPad 2 in the next 9 or so months. Here's hoping Stephen's the guy.

9? I am hoping for 6, and the opal in 3-4.

I'm hoping for Opal next month, and Touchpad 2 by Christmas.

This is fantastic news!

Ruby is a good champion of WebOS, but there was definitely a need for change. I'm crossing my fingers, again.

I know we have all but established that a Sprint Pre 3 is dead, but could this not be hastened by Sprint who would not consider WebOS with Ruby in place?

I doubt this change will sway Sprint either way, but we can hope that it will at least get Sprint back to the negotiating table with HP, or give Sprint more confidence in HP/webOS.

I'm wondering if Dewitt will even allow the Pre 3 as we know it to launch in the US. Would anybody release a 720P tv today? Three months from now?

good move HP...im thinking the veer did him in...veer was a huge strategic blunder thinking the world wanted a mini smartphone...probably Rubys obsession with miniaturization from his ipod days where 'smaller = better' got the best of him...

If they had just held the press conference in February and then been able to say "All three of these devices are on sale tomorrow at stores near you," then you would feel very differently about the Veer. The Veer is not a fail because of its size. That is the best thing it has going for it other than its OS. The Veer launch was lackluster because there was no ecosystem.

Ruby has been put out to pasture... Saw that one coming. Maybe they will hit a home run and get more of a business mind behind all WebOS needs. Here's hoping!

No way! The size was not the issue at all. In fact, the Veer's size is its strongsuit and I would love to have one for that reason alone. (Bulky phone in a suit coat sux.)

The Veer was just out on its own with zero ecosystem behind it! They needed to launch all three devices the day after their February press conference. And if Rubenstein had anything to do with their inability to do that, then this demotion was deserved.

Sorry if this double-posts. Having trouble with my iPad.

Exactly, this.

I actually have the Veer and I like it. I just would like to also have that Pre 3 too and use the Veer only for "going out"...

Two friends of mine also bought the Veer (one for his wife, the other one for himself) only BECAUSE it is an incredibly small and complete Smartphone. Another friend would have bought it, if it would just have an 3.5mm headphone jack ;)

The vast, vast, vast majority of people only have 1 smartphone. They want a big screen on it so they can... use it to do lots of stuff.

The market for people who want a second smartphone to fit in their dinner jacket when they go out is... miniscule.

Not the way to build a customer base, developer base, or any base at all.

Yep, I wonder if the Veer will sell better now that the Touchpad is out. I've definitely been seeing a greater advertising push for the Veer since the Touchpad's launch.

Dewitt wasn't the one in charge of turning hp's computer business from making innovative well built machines into making cheap **** peices of **** that have higher margins and made the stockholders happy, is he?

A lot of their new baseline comps look like Envys now. Go check them out before you bash them. Now if you want to talk about **** customer service and overheating then you can call HP out.

the best news i have read all day

I have no doubt Ruby is smart as a tack but he is NOT a salesman, which is what you have to have up front. Rubes has all the charisma of wet cardboard and his smugness made it worse. He wrote checks with his mouth and attitude that he couldn't cash with his words. Every time he opened his mouth I just wanted to hit him.

Is he to blame for the STILL slow trickle of products? Is he to blame for the relationship fiasco between HP and Sprint? Who knows. What's certain is he gave investors ZERO confidence every time he took the stage and every time he did an interview.

I say good riddance. Anyone is better than him.

The Envy team + this change might be the right formula. NO MORE PLASTIC

Hopefully when I revisit webos in two years (I'm moving to a Samsung Focus running wp7 on Friday, no way I'm waiting for a "fall" release of the Pre 3) the hardware section of webos will have it's act together.

Great move HP. I hope Jon actually stays around. He appeared to be a great idea man and good team builder just not good enough at implementation. I hope they have a bunch of creative guys still at the old Palm GBU.

The difference in Jon working at Palm was that he never took the time to see what we wanted or our ideas for webOS. Aren't you supposed to read what the community has to say? Aren't they the ones who buy your products and advertise them through word of mouth?

All that was said about the Pre, Pre +, Pixi, Sprint, build issues, update issues, catalog restrictions and the list goes on and on. Jon ignored all of that and sat behind closed doors with his engineering degree from the 70s or 80s thinking that his way is the only way. Yes, he worked with Apple to create the Mac OS X, Ipod, and maybe the Iphone, but times are changing. Products are coming out faster than usual. You used to be able buy something and use it for a few years before something new comes out.

Here is where HP is making a difference. They actually sent employees to read blogs and to websites to see whats going on and what we are all talking about. The bad reviews mixed with how much we love webOS was the last straw. They are not going to let their $1.2 billion acquisition of Palm go down the drain. HP knows there are a lot of people who love webOS, but want quality hardware and for it to be optimized like the competition. We also would like to upgrade sooner than two years and two months. HP can not reject money from people because they have no product to sell. HP pumps out hardware like no other company. They are not used to having no product available for potential customers to buy. The last thing they want to hear is that "I jumped ship".

HP is in a position that all of the other OS companies are not in. They need to deliver as quick as possible with the least amount of delays. Deliver quickly and your scale will rise. Create killer hardware and apps will flood the App Catalog. Take care of developers and they will keep coming back to make new applications. Listen to your customers when they have suggestions or ideas.

In the end, its us who spend our hard earned money on products we love. We love webOS, but at this rate we are either saving our money or going to another platform that has product on shelves to sell. Generation Y are not faithful to any company or organization. They will buy your product if its good. It doesn't have to be Apple or Android to succeed. Never throw a bone with no meat on it to a hungry pack of webOS wolves. As for now, I'm all for webOS and I will be sticking around.

Jon ignored everything until the end. Even in that email that went out he pretty much told everyone to ignore the reviews and remember what happened when OSX came out.

OSX survived because OS9 ran the show until it was debugged and fully functional. Jon killed PalmOS, didn't build an emulator and took down the safety nets that would have allowed a viable analogy to OS-X.

One obstacle less in path of unconditional webOS licensing to interested companies. One obstacle less in introduction of fresh ideas to webOS. It's a happy day for webOS.
As SVP at HP, Jon certainly keeps fat paycheck, so there is no reason to feel sorry for him.

So we smell a WebOS re-re-launch coming? I can see the banner, "WEBOS, NOW JON-FREE".

Fresh ideas for WebOS are not what has been needed, but what HAS been needed is to really push for that WebOS 2.1 update that WAS authorized on O2 in Europe to be allowed on ALL older devices. We are not suffering from the OS feeling outdated, we are suffering from having no devices with a larger screen and faster processor, which the Pre 3 was going to solve. Not TALKING to the WebOS user base directly and saying, "We have the phone ready, but AT&T, Verizon, and Sprint are delaying the release".

HP suffers from a lack of communication with their customers when it comes to new devices, and THAT is what bothers people.

Finally they've demoted Jon Rubenstein!!!
He has made so many mistakes and he got what he deserves: A KICK IN THE AS*!!!

Best news of the year and a new hope for WebOS.

Big surprise. Like this wasn't expected.

For years I have been asking Palm for a TX with cell radio, i.e. a large screen slate device with onscreen keyboard. Now all the biggest sellers have that form factor.

Why in the world did Jon try to push the idea that smaller is better, that small plastic keyboards are what people really want? These are internet communication devices, not just phones!

The Pre 3 is nice hardware, but years behind the curve. A 3.6" widescreen? This is even less surface area than the iPhone (with has a 3:2 screen ration, hence much wider in portrait mode), which makes reading websites a pain. If you have reformatted websites in the form of apps like Apple, this may still be fine, but for webOS, this won't fly.

The moment they stop trying to be original, produce a 4" slab with virtual keyboard, take it easy on the plastic, they will double their marketshare.

The people who designed the OS are Skiller (now at Nokia) and Matias Duarte (now at Google.) What in the world did Jon do? Attract investors? We all saw what that led to.

Overall, this replacement might be a good thing in the end. Stop the originality contest, just deliver what the market wants (i.e. a slab) and put the best mobile OS on the planet on it.

Complicated? Sure ain't. Now just get going.

A well made slab with WebOS will do very well, and more important, it does not need an ecosystem, just a great phone with WebOS and it will kick start the next generation of devices. The Veer nonsense and the poor TP build could be forgotten memories if they get handsets out that meet and exceed expectations.

The sad thing is this is just another dangling carrot to add to the "just wait until AT&T/Verizon//Pixi/C40/PDK/Flash/Acquisition/Veer/TouchPad/Pre 3" pile of false hope precentral members cling on to.

Good-bye Ruby Monday.

Great, get Rubinstein as far away from webOS as possible. Hopefully Stephen DeWitt will actually be able to get stuff done, instead of the vague timelines that are a carryover from Jon's Palm days.

Best comment so far.

Maybe the Pre3 will be further delayed now?

Doesn't surprise me at all given the Touchpad reviews and I predicted heads would role, including Jon's.
However, July 1, 2011 was the one year anniversary of the completion of the Palm sale. Many purchase agreements have the core executives from the purchased company staying for one year after purchase, so it could have just been that Jon agreed to stay on for one year during the transition and then wanted out of that position himself.

I agree with most of the sentiments above. Ruby championed and helped to make real the OS that we all love, but was unable to make it any real commercial success. He probably should have left a lot sooner after the HP takeover to get some new blood in. I lost a lot of confidence in him after his performance on the Engadget show in.. March? He didn't even know the specs of the upcoming devices by heart, and while anyone can get nervous, this has been Palm's most visible public face, and should have had a much more polished performance. Really he seemed like a befuddled amateur. :( I'm sure he's a capable guy in many ways and he'll probably end up at some other start up or large company doing something interesting, so I don't feel sorry for him, just feel sorry for the state of things at HP/Palm, but this action is perhaps the one bright side (other than the launch of the Touchpad) that I've seen in the last year+. Who's to know whether this will have any major effect and if so how long it will take to happen, let's just hope it is big and fast :)

FINALLY.
It was just so sad when he was on stage and when he pulled out the Veer there was no applause so he had to say "Huh? yeah! Comon!" just to start the low applause going.

he is the man who killed Pixi, Pre and almost webOS. He is the guy for whom form is more important than performance.

Ruby partially falling on his sword is long overdue, but why do Apotheker, Kerris, McArthur and the rest of these clowns get a pass when they've been making comparably false and silly statements?

They certainly had their fair share of input regarding both the TouchPad launch, customer expectations and the WebOS app ecosystem....neither of which is in an acceptable state at present.

The problems seem systemic to me, not limited to Ruby.

Not limited at all to Ruby. BTW, it's kind of interesting how most of the webOS faithful are cheering this move on now when the mods banned a few of us months ago who saw this coming. It's happened time and again.

In my case, I've always wanted webOS to succeed as i was a huge Palm fan. There isn't one thing you can point to and say they should have done this. There's a whole buffet of problems of which people still debate about. I understand the mods, some of which are zealots, didn't want to hear about them but how exactly is HP/Palm going to get better if we don't talk about it even if you have to deal with a few ignorant webOS zealots?

Instead we get listed as trolls or iphans and told to go away. Problem is, people do go away and they don't exactly spread the webOS cheer when they do. I use iOS because it's the best offering currently but it could be much better...webOS better if HP would wake up.

It's also hard to be a fan of a webOS community whose writers have dropped the ball and where the mods, many that seem ignorant of webOS and other platforms, were quick to ban those wanting webOS to succeed and unable to correctly determine if they were in fact trolling or sincere with their criticism. Even Dieter hardly seemed to be much of a webOS fan but now that he's gone, Precentral lacks even that voice. There's been no strong webOS advocate even in the newest Mobile Nation concept. Who exactly represents Precentral? Does this person really know the other platforms so he or she can contrast/compare? Does anyone at mobile nations know webOS well enough? I haven't seen such a writer here.

I can't believe all the negative comments about Jon. His problem was that Palm did not have the bucks to do marketing. Sprint agreed to do the marketing and proved beyond a doubt that they can't market their way out of a wet paper bag. Sprint managed to spend tons of money on an ad campaign whose main legacy the legend of the Borg Queen. Not a very good effort by Sprint.

I say thank Jon for getting webOS started and hand it off to Stephen to invoke the HP scale. We'll see if he can Git R Done.

Here's the thing, we got a lot of promises about new devices for over a year now, yet we have not seen any true flagship device that can really compete with the flagship devices from other carriers.

If the Pre 3 was ready in February, which it SHOULD have been, then it should have launched THEN. On Feb 9th, 1.4GHz single-core was a solid product that would have sold well on the specs. Now, we have the iPhone 5 expected in the next few months, and other phones come with dual-core processors. So, a single-core 1.4GHz will seem nice and fast compared to what WE have had, but it's not really cutting edge anymore.

If the whole Touch to Share was not ready, it could have been released back in February since the Touchpad was not out yet, and things STILL would have been solid and sales would have been better.

So, we wait, and they talk about the Touchpad, but...where's the Pre 3? Give it to us with WebOS 2.1, many of us wouldn't mind not having the very latest OS version if we had a new phone...but, we still wait, and we get no official word on what is going on. The specs were removed from the web page, hopefully because they are being upgraded, but why is it taking so long, and why can't we get any word saying, "There were some problems with the OS development that delayed the release. As a result, we have decided to update the specs so when it comes out, it really will be a cutting edge phone." That would be the sort of communication that would make me and probably most of the WebOS fan base understand and accept the delay.

I see this as a win for all. Jon will "innovate" more than just mobile devices, but also laptops & PC's. He can have a larger role of webOS on PCs. And now webOS GBU has a proven winner in charge. Now we can all laugh at the naysayers who said HP wasn't behind webOS.

ruby just wasn't getting the job done. Time to get someone new. Ruby was a nice guy, but nice doesn't cut it.

Bottom line, the TP is seen in the market place as a crappy device. Its really very simple, until HP decides to build quality products that are superior to the competition nothing will change. Do you think Steve Jobs would have put out a product like the touchpad? I don't.

Ummmm, the Touchpad is far from being a crappy device that lacks in the quality department. There are some flaws, but seriously, Apple has had a LOT of flaws in iDevices.

Remember the lack of copy/paste on the iDevices for HOW LONG? How about the iPhone 4 antenna issue that in no way was caused by service quality issues, and how that was handled(you are holding it wrong)?

HP could easily have said, "Over 800 apps on the iDevices are there because the iDevices do not support Flash, so you need a dedicated app to make up for that, and every one of those apps takes away from your available storage. The Touchpad does not suffer from needing to compensate for a fundamental flaw in not allowing Flash".

Jon Rubinstein is simply paying the price for the flop that is the Veer and the less than stellar release of the TouchPad. Expect him to announce his exit from HP at some point in the near future.

Unfortunately the webOS unit just lost a bit of their identity - I hope they don't also lost their freedom to innovate and create.

Stephen DeWitt is no doubt a 'safe pair of hands' parachuted in to manage the unit - but I doubt he'll be particularly inspiring.

Who do you think Ruby inspired? I hate to beat a dead horse, but he pushed devices no one was asking for and barely knew his own devices on live tv spots. If i were an employee I would have been embarrassed. Especially if it was work I was proud of that he was supposed to be pushing. I understand Duarte leaving. If I had a bad as OS that they kept putting on **** I would have bailed to.

true to the bone! He was just TERRIBLE as a webOS spoke person. It was just awkward to look at him trying.

Hallelujah! Could not be soon enough for that.

Too bad it is sooo late. I am not sure if already not too little, TOO late. Hopefully, other significant changes in how you deal with things are coming, and FAST.

Mr Rubinstein, sir, it was truly embarrassing to watch you trying to convince everyone around about your "visionary" status, when you are clearly but one of corporate climbers, trying to get to the top on the backs of other truly talented, innovative, hard working people.

Bon voyage with your new "challenges", as a JuniorAssosciatedUndersecretaryRegardingVagueThingsHavingBigNames, Dream Team, Vision Division. I hope everyone will "stay tuned" to your invaluable output, and "in the coming months" we will hear many other wonderful figures of speech and "visions" of yours.

Or not.

First move that demonstrates that HP actually HAS some brains (better late than never), and balls to execute what is good for webOS.

Good riddance, Rubinstein is not a hardware guy, this is the third major product launch (Treo Pro, Pre, TP) since he oversaw this at Palm and they've all had unnecessary issues. The plastic casing of the treo pro would crack spontaneously yet it was reused in the Pre. The TP has inexcusable bugs for a launch product, has unsuitable glossy casing ( I'm afraid it will slip out of my hands at any minute, my kid was using it in the car to type a project and he complained that it was sliding from left to right across his lap whenever I took a turn). Two years on and the OS is still laggy, compare that to iOS which has taken leaps and bounds in performance and polish in the same time frame.
For WebOS users this is good news, Over the last few yrs HP PC product quality has improved substantially. My sister who lives oversees specifically requested an HP laptop! Having this guy in charge of WebOS should translate to better products hopefully.

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