Not So Fast? Mobile Hotspot on Verizon 59
| Pre/Pixi Plus | MiFi |
| jkOnTheRun | |
| 153k down 258k up |
900k down 456k up |
| PreCentral | |
| 936k down 132k up |
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Over at jkOnTheRun, James Kendrick has posted up results comparing the Mobile Hotspot feature on his Palm Pre Plus to the MiFi Mobile Hotspot device. His results are pretty disheartening: speeds on the Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi Plus are noticeably slower than on the dedicated MiFi hotspot. I don't have a Verizon MiFi to test against, but I have gotten faster download speeds than James did, however my upload speeds are lackluster to say the least. At right, the results of both of our tests, averaged over multiple attempts at Speakeasy (2 for James, 3 for me).
Update: I just realized that I had the "Unthrottle Download Manager" patch installed. I just removed that and ran another battery of tests and am getting slightly slower speeds, but not enough for me to think that this patch affects data speed - 3G is often wildly different from test to test, even from the exact same location.
After the break we've posted two polls that we're asking only Verizon users to fill out: if you're using Mobile Hotspot, what kind of data download and upload speeds are you getting? People using Mobile Hotspot on Sprint via 'nefarious' methods and people using other methods of tethering webOS, please sit this poll out and instead post your results in the comments.
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59 Comments
Technically what is the difference between the transmitter/router used in MIFI vs used in pre plus? If MIFI is so better is it possible to get the same transmitter in pre or it is way too big for pre?
I download from 160 to 200kb/sec and up load 50 to 100kb/sec but I only have 2 bars most the time I use tethering.
i used on my sprint phone tried it on my laptop with utorrent had speeds just over 100kbs up loads were around 50kbs.just did as test to see if it worked faster then the hotels wifi i normally get on road trips.and on sprint its free love the pre and sprint
Torrents probably aren't your best use of tethering if you are at all concerned of not getting caught. :)
I agree. I just received a letter from the motion picture industry to cease and desist uploading torrents.
Not nice to get such a letter.
News flash: Torrents are not only used to download illegally pirated content.
http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/download
...Or maybe just read this article: http://practical-tech.com/entertainment/bittorrent-jumps-into-drmed-vide...
I agree. I use torrents all the time for Linux distributions and the like. Just not over my cell data plan. :)
> News flash: Torrents are not only used to download illegally pirated content.
True, but it is still not the best use of tethering because the data use is typically VERY high.
lol, wow yea that sucks! That means they got a subpoena and got your info from your ISP.
IF I were you I would change my name to Vegeta and switch ISPs ...lol
double post, woops
Sprint user here: I don't remember the upload speeds, but my download was 1.5Mbps.
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I am on sprint, using the verizon app for tethering I got about 1Mb/s which ain't too shabby. I have the unthrottling patch installed and haven't tested without it.
You think? Back when myTether was working (oh the good old 1.2.x days) I was getting 2Mb/s down and 345k/s up. With one or two tests that were higher.
I wonder what Mobile Hot Spot is doing. I wonder how much of the WAP functionality it has to implement in software that might otherwise have been done by the card itself (directed by the driver). The reason I speculate this is that the most recent versions of the linux driver have disabled some of the functionality (e.g. AdHoc WIFI). This is what broke myTether in the first place.
those speeds you mentioned I also got with myTether, but only as a USB tether.
with my tether wifi I actually never got as fast as I do with the newer mobile hotspot app.
fastest tethering though for me so far has definitely been the USB tethering with myTether..
I could never get USB tethering to work right. It had a *lot* of problems. This may have been related to the poor drivers available for Vista.
In any case, I got those speeds over wifi tethering.
I'm not sure why you say when myTether was working. I am on here using myTether and I just tested my speed. 1.16 Mb/s download and 0.35Mb/s upload. Not too bad and that's about all I've gotten on Sprint where I live.
I probably should have said "when myTether was working w/out patching the OS so that it broke other applications..." But I just shortcut it. It's true that myTether works, but by breaking other applications, and requireing a reboot before & after each patch, I consider it to be broken. IMHO.
If you actually paid for myTether, you should definitely check out the forums over at mytether.net. Aonic has released a beta version of myTether that uses the new Hotspot stuff that works great on sprint. It doesnt need a patch/restart and it doesn't break the camera or 3D games. i haven't tried installing the hacked Verizon hotspot program, but the new myTether is awesome. it has a graph of your current network usage, and shows you a list of connected devices (which you can disconnect!).
testing the new myTether (wifi) on speedtest:
around 150 ms ping
1.0 Mbps down, 0.43 Mbps up
not the best score and not good enough for gaming, but you can watch streaming video or surf the web well enough. btw, i have the unlock speeds patch (installed via Preware).
it drinks the battery to run myTether w/ WIFI, but i have an extend life battery and i usually only run it when the pre is plugged into my usb port (charging). also, i can run myTether when i am in 1x or Roaming, Data Roaming Plan = 1x (thanks verizon/t-mobile/gay t&t), and still have internet access.
One problem i have encountered, which has nothing to do with the phone or myTether, is that when i get a call, data drops.
texting is fine though.
the best part is that i don't have to pay extra for the same function as a smartphone and a mobile hotspot (yet). my dad has a palm 700w and sprint's mobile hotspot device. he is paying 2x as much for same functionality (plus i have games).
Thanks, I didn't realize there was a beta. I got it and its' working nicely so far.
Sweet!
how are you guys downloading 1.5mb/sec that's 1500kb/sec how?? I think your testing your connection not your download speed
Well first: I did the test near downtown Los Angeles - so I'm probably not going to get any possible better connection, right? Second, to answer your question, I tethered, connected my laptop to it, and then went to www.2wire.com and ran their speed meter on my laptop. I've always used that and find that it's always very very close to the other speed measuring sites that you can go to (DSL Reports, etc).
As far as the experience goes, I would have to say that web pages were loading comparably or faster than they do normally on my laptop over my work connection.
EDIT: ...And I don't have the unthrottle patch.
I have the unthrotle patch, when I test my connection I have 1.5mb.... But when I actually download a real file it's at 160 to 200kb/sec.... I doubt you download stuff at 1500kb/sec
Well this article is polling for results from going to a speed metering site. So you are asking questions about something different than the content of this article...
Basically the speed metering sites download a file that gets immediately thrown away, and then do a calculation based off of the time spent to download that file. So I believe them to be a valid test. When downloading an actual file from another site, there are many more factors involved there.
if you don't have the patch than your stuck with 64kb/sec, so now I know your lying...sad
lol I'm telling you what the results were from the test.
Hahahaha "lying"? You must be assuming that I care what you think... But I don't. I was merely posting the information that I have so that it can be taken into context with the rest of data in the pool.
Calm down. :)
1.5mb/s MEGABYTES per second? It isn't 1500kb/s its actually like 160-170kb/s. I think they really mean 1.5mbps (megabitspersecond)
how are you guys downloading 1.5mb/sec that's 1500kb/sec how?? I think your testing your connection not your download speed
They aren't lying. I can get OVER 2Mb/s on Sprint + Pre. It is going to depend tremendously on your location, signal strength, network congestions, etc.
Pretty certain these peeps need to install the unthrottle patch. However it will prolly dropp the battery life on the device and prolly why palm throttled it in the first place.
I doubt it. The Unthrottle DOWNLOAD MANAGER patch only affects applications downloading files on the Pre that use the download manager... such as the web browser.
It does nothing for general web browsing speed, nor streaming. And it will affect nothing (the speed tests like speedtest.net) when tethered.
Sprint user here, and yesterday I went into a Verizon store because I wanted to run a speedtest on their Pre Plus on their network. I ran about 5 tests, between 500k and 2mb packet size, and got between 800k-1200k everytime.
On my Pre on sprint, my speeds vary between 100k and 500k. Looks like Verizon is faster in San Antonio, TX.
Also, I have fixed my home agent on my phone, which boosted my average speed about 100k. I wonder what a Verizon Pre Plus would do with the correct home agent?
I have gotten great speeds via the hotspot app on the Pixi plus. Over 2000k download speeds. Up load speeds are less than stellar, but acceptable.
I've been testing it via Speedtest.net.
A lesson in networking to all who seem not to know... :D
Your bandwidth is measured in BITS not BYTES.
So, to find out your download speeds in BYTES, you divide the megabits/8.
This will give you your speed in bytes.
Hence, why 1.2 Mbs equates to a 200 KBs download speed.
thank u for clearing that up
lol - Thanx for clarifying here. Mbps is the bigger number - that's why it's marketed to us this way when we sign up for service.
Why are TV screens measured diagonally? Simply because it's the bigger number.
I mistyped, i meant 1.6 Mbs.
LOL, I was just going to point that out ;-) I'm glad you did.
What did you expect? it's EVDO...
This may be a dumb question but what site do you all use to test? I have never figured that out.
www.speedtest.net
Thanks. That is the site I have been using but didn't know if it was accurate or not.
I use speedtest.net from my computer. It requires flash.
I use testmy.net directly from my sprint palm pre. It doesn't require flash.
Sprint user, live in AZ. I used the HotSpot and went to speakeasy.net, chose LA as the server, the speed was:
1139 down
327 Up
I have a question though. does any of you have to drop the IP address using ipconfig /release after you connect the tethering WiFi network? If I don't do that my laptop does not obtain the IP from the phone.
Win7?
Vista home edition
Sprint. Using Mobile Hotspot. 5 bars of service in Miami (using Atlanta server on Speakeasy)
Test1 713k down 212k up
Test2 751k down 134k up
@htab im on win 7 and i renewed my ip thruw cmd and it worked fine thanks for that info helped me greatly
sprint bay area south bay 140k down and 39k up
maybe should try changing our home adresses to the clossest server or w.e i did it with my insticnt and i also icreased the amount of pacages id get
What is the likely hood of Sprint catching wind of this and throwing you all under the proverbial bus?
verizon pre + user in the middle of a relatively rural area, sitting in a basement, and im consistently getting DL of 550-575 down, and 100 up. I'll take that. The connection with my pre+ is much more stable and consistent than my prior wifi hotspot, and its a little cheaper too
just as a follow-up, my connection is rarely showing more than 2 "bars" on my phone.
Well,i saw this article way back about Pre2,& Iphone 4G,having the same processor in late 2010. Here is the link: http://www.brightsideofnews.com/news/2009/6/17/iphone-4g2c-pre-2---all-g...
Well that wudd b just grand to have a quad core proccessor on my phone :) imagine the applications engineers could use autocad on your phone ?
using My Tether on Sprint I got 809 down and 137 up with one try on Speakeasy.net.
Upload is pretty shabby...good thing I do more downloading than up!
Another Sprint user here. I tested the mobile hotspot on my Pre and got the following speeds:
Test 1 - 1289kbps 111kbps
Test 2 - 1636kbps 329kbps
Sprint ain't so bad in some places. :-)
Woo Hoo
SpeakEASY
Download Speed: 1732 kbps (216.5 KB/sec transfer rate)
Upload Speed: 264 kbps (33 KB/sec transfer rate)
Performance.Toast.net
1667 Kb on the 755K test
SpeedTest.net
2.02MB/s Download
.23MB/s Upload
424 Ping test
(Unthrottle Patch enabled, Wifi Connection to Pre; please note that Bluetooth connection to Pre Via Access Point is MUCH slower)
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