Palm has next-gen devices, next-gen app frameworks in store for "early 2011" 40
We just wrapped up the keynote for Palm's Developer Day in New York City. A tag-team of Ben Galbraith, Dion Almaer, Phil McKinney, and Joe Hayashi took the stage to give an overview of where they see web and mobile development now and where they see it going in the future.
Ben and Dion noted that the web and HTML5 really are going to become a first-class app development and distribution platform - as evidenced by even Microsoft's new and surprising support for HTML5 standards.
Phil McKinney gave his 'stump speech' about the excitement within HP for webOS and reiterated that HP is looking to drive webOS to lots of form factors and devices to fill the gap between the smartphone and the PC. Phil also broke out his flexible display technology. We asked him how he's going to keep excitement up over the next few months for webOS in the consumer market and his response: it will be easier to generate excitement when you have new devices. Expect HP to bring tablets, new phones, and "really interesting new form factors" in 2011. McKinney also noted that HP controls literally 10% of the shelf space in the consumer electronics space and they plan to make Palm "to play an important part for that shelf space."
Later on, Joe Hayashi teased that HP will be moving away from the current application framework (called Mojo) to something called "Enyo" that will be faster, support multiple form factors, and work with Palm's online, drag-n-drop development Ares system. (in fact, "Enyo" is a Greek goddess of war and a companion to the war-god Ares - get it?). Hayashi notes that the Early Access Developer SDK will see support for both Enyo and tablets in early 2011. Also pegged for "Early 2011" - those slates and phones that Palm is very much aware we are all waiting on.
We'll have more on the Enyo app framework later this afternoon. Keep it locked to PreCentral!
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Yes!..This is so exciting!..Thank goodness for Precentral. Thank you HP Palm for renewing my faith in you. I had lost faith in you guys.
Early can be from Jan - June.
I know and too long to wait by then nvidia optimus will be stuff of the past
Jan-June would be more like first half of 2010...
Early is Jan-April, Mid is May-August-, Late is Sept-Dec.
You're really fast in typing! Thank you!!!
Early 2011 = June 30
thank you guys for the great news but early 2011 is just not doing it sorry
So you are going to buy a new phone over the next three months and then you are done buying phones for the rest of your life?
HP is probably in this for longer then the next year, and I think Rahul Sood and others are right when they say it's not the end of the world if people go buy Android or iPhone right now, webOS will have great products next time you are looking to buy.
Early 2011 is just around the corner, no big deal, so glad I was never tempted to jump ship, if I had then in a few months the device would be outdated.
In this market, any device is outdated in a few months, because apparently everyone has pockets deep enough to change phones that often...
See, it will take new devices to get consumers interested. Personally, I think the new API's are enough to get developers interested, at least I'm interested (particularly in Enyo). But, regular consumers don't frequent sites like these. They don't pay attention to the cutting edge of smartphone development until they see the cutting edge at the store so they can buy it. It's the simple truth: you need devices to get consumers interested.
You can either complain that a rose has thorns, or you can rejoice that thorns have roses.
Being Greek I appreciate the names =)
I remember when I was a young kid and thought six months was a long time.
Yes, unfortunately it looks like a lot of people here didn't mature past that point. Who knows, maybe their parents got them all the latest video games when they were growing up...
well no.
The problem is Palm's reputation of making promises of things being released during a certain time frame. Remember when we were told at last CES that Flash beta will be available by end of February 2010. Then it was 1st half of 2010. and now it's with webOS 2.0 which we were originally told we'll have end of November 2010 and now recently we were told "in the coming months."
And remember, only Palm has problems with slipping ship dates. No one else dose, ever.
:-D
Seriously, glad to hear some specifics (well, more> specific than what we've had) for our platform of choice.
This is great Hp can release whatever crazy form factors they want,just give me my 4+ in. Screen because I've one to realize that hardware keyboards are unnecessary, they just add bulk
would also like a 4" thin screen with a kickstand and gesture area.
The public relations people must have realized the "in coming months" comment was getting pretty stale so have switched it to "early 2011".
Just as vague, with no real info, but it seems to have placated a few people here.
It was expected. Pre users have a history of being incredibly gullible and easy to placate.
And people who have paid attention have known for a while that nothing was coming until 2011. Those who understand it are not surprised and accept it with little to no problem. Being satisfied with an answer does not mean gullible or easy to placate, and resorting to narrow minded insults of a wide range of people is ignorant and really does nothing but make yourself look bad to others.
yes times have changed. technolgy is fast paced. either keep up or get run over.
'interesting new form factors' eh? I hope we'll be seeing a palm, er, wrist watch..
Folks, unless there is a new Pre phone that is accessible through a carrier (Sprint, AT&T) people will simply not be interested in any WebOS device. Does HP honestly expect me to buy a $500 phone without any carrier support? Oh, I have Sprint so it is not even possible.
I'd love to have a WebOS tablet, but HP missed Christmas - where most of us get something called "gifts". Sorry for being heavy-handed, but checking PreCentral daily for "keep waiting" and "look at how cool is this - for the folks in Europe" is disheartening to say the least.
Last I checked, Apple released most of their iPhones in June/July, many months removed from when most of us get something called "gifts". People still seemed to buy them.
Besides, the Europeans no longer have something that we don't...
You seem like the Baghdad Bob of this forum.
And many of you guys seem like the grumpy smurf....always complaining and never satisfied
plays with your theory
Apple is reportedly prepping a thinner, second-gen iPad for an early-to-mid 2011 launch.
Haven't you heard of Christmas in July?! Geeze...
Less talking. More doing...
during the precentral liveblog, they said new devices in "2 11". Got all excited for Feb, only to realize they missed the 0 in 2011. ..
we need a walkie-talkie app.
All talk, let's see some action.
Remember the original Palm Pre was introduced at CES in January 2009, and didn't hit shelves until June 6th.
A thin 4" screen device with a physical keyboard running webOS 2.xx visual voicemail, speech to text, voice recognition, official Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, Dragon dictation, barcode scanner, shazaam, and the likes. Even one or two of the preceeding with the new hardware would be a good start. Making sure early 2011 means 3 or 4 months before june would be nice too.
A thin 4" screen device with a physical keyboard running webOS 2.xx visual voicemail, speech to text, voice recognition, official Netflix, Twitter, Facebook, Dragon dictation, barcode scanner, shazaam, and the likes. Even one or two of the preceeding with the new hardware would be a good start. Making sure early 2011 means 3 or 4 months before june would be nice too.
So much about hp & especially palm is about what they are "going to do". Then shortly after it becomes "what they should have done". I miss the palm that existed 3 years ago...
thank God,Buddha,Krishna(and so on) for the magic team HP/PALM!! Your efforts are really paying off now....and I mean RIGHT NOW! We are your BEYATCHES 4 EVER!!!! Half of us would virtually suck your big virtual d**k just to get laid with the mega-ultra-hot Pre2 device. In Palm we trust!!!!
NOT!!!!! :))