Job postings reinforce HP's plans to continue webOS development 33
HP might have decided to "off" the TouchPad and all other webOS devices recently, but if anything is a sign that the webOS GBU is going to remain active, it would be all of the recent activity going on at Monster.com to fill positions at Palm, Inc.. Tim Carmody from Wired just happened to receive a tip about the new webOS-related job listings at Monster.com, which include positions for Managers, Lawyers, Engineers, Designers and a whole lot more (35 in total were just added today).
Of course, the problem that is readily apparent in every one of the 110 job listings is that they are all for the company Palm, Inc., which technically doesn't exist anymore. With several references throughout the postings for jobs that will be working directly on the TouchPad and other webOS devices, it's easy to wonder if these listings are legitemately from HP's webOS Global Business Unit. It's likely that at least some of these are old posts that haven't been removed due to everything else that's currently going on with the Sunnyvale-based team.
But if HP is looking to hire new people onto their webOS team, it is a good sign that work will continue to move forward with the platform. Especially with positions open like that for a Touchpad Regional Product Manager in the EMEA (Europe, Middle-East and Africa), which would fit perfectly with the statement from HP's Todd Bradley that they may resurrect the TouchPad in the near future due to high demand. Or, you know, it could be a job listing that needs to be taken down and given a proper burial.
To be honest, we still very little idea what exactly HP is planning on doing with webOS (and that includes software as well as hardware). They've certainly made stranger decisions recently than hiring on new webOS engineers and designers, and with the drastic changes that have already been made, it's hard to say whether webOS will stick around past next week or even if HP will sell off their printing business, too. For now, we can look on these job listings with hope that there is still some life left in the webOS GBU and that HP isn't killing the platform off completely. If you're interested in working at HP with the webOS team (and don't mind the small chance that you could be laid off with little-to-no warning), hit the source link below to see what job opportunities are available, and let us know in the comments how everything goes.
Source: Monster.com; Via: Wired; Thanks, webosencastella!
33 Comments
Supply Chain Lawyer for webOS GBU will be needed now more than ever having in mind all recent cancellations.
This is exactly what I was thinking.
yep, P|C guys, you are contradicting yourself - one article earlier, you wrote that Bradley confirms that there will be "last final run" of TouchPads manufactured, then you are saying they are actually resurrecting it...
Guys. As you have also clearly wrote in the article, these postings relate to _TouchPad_, eg. a HARDWARE, that according to geniuses in HP, will NO LONGER BE pursued by HP to manufacture.
Clearly, these are not new postings, if they decided to shut off webOS hardware division before year's end, for god's sake...
Last one: even if these WERE new postings, can you just imagine that loooong line of top-of-the-crop tech professionals forming hastily, to apply? Yep, I cannot imagine it myself, too.
My gosh.
Keep in mind that many of these job boards have listings that are automatically renewed. So "posted today" does not always mean the job post was actually "created today".
these are old job postings that no one took off
I was like... why on earth do they need a Product Manager when they don't have any product to sell?
Patently obvious, but here we are running it as a story anyway. Sigh....
You knew it had to be Tim.
I don't understand the rush to put up content on this site without basic proofreading or fact-checking. Most tech sites simply just reprint the WebOS coverage here, so it's not like they're going to be scooped.
Because Tim is an idiot/fanboy. Follow some of his 'insights' which are usually very wrong, and you learn to ignore pretty much anything he posts. I wish Derek would get someone on staff with a clue. Then again Derek thought charging $500/$600 for the TouchPad was a good idea. I miss Dieter. The site is going downhill along with HP.
Thanks.
Now, you might also notice throughout this news (read non-editorial/opinion) article I use phrases like 'But if' and "it's likely that... these are old posts that haven't been removed". IMO these listings are not going to be honored by HP, but until I hear otherwise, the fact that they are listed publicly *is* news that should be shared and there is a chance that HP is still hiring.
If you want to attack me personally about an opinion of mine on a news story that is being run in other major online publications, not just PreCentral, then ask what that opinion is before calling names. I'd appreciate it. Question: Have you ever stated your opinion about something and found out later you were wrong? It happens.
Lastly, if I'm a fanboy, it is as a fan of the community, not the devices. I'm currently running a WP7 Dell Venue Pro and getting a Nexus S next week. Phones are material objects used to help me communicate with other people- not because I love my devices, but because I love people.
If I'm an idiot fanboy because of these things, I'd hate to see how real "idiots" and "fanboys" would act.
Tim, all of that is meaningless in light of the fact that SEVERAL HOURS after it's been brought to your attention, you still defiantly refuse to correct the title of the article to an interrogative sentence (e.g. Job postings reinforce HP's plans to continue webOS development?) instead of the declarative one it currently is.
This is 101 stuff. You're misrepresenting the speculative article, and devaluing the (minimal) credibility of this site.
I would hope you wouldn't leave a steady job to take one of these listings. With HP's track record, I would call ahead every day before beginning my commute.
Well, one sure way to find out -- someone needs to send a resume in and see what kind of response you get.
But, I agree -- these are all old, the fact that they say "Palm" is very indicative of this.
It just absolutely amazes me at how people grasp at straws to try to hold onto hope.
+1 petbull.
I was just about to say the same thing. What kind of talent do they expect to obtain? I mean, all this unsertanty of the fate of gbu and webos and hardware. Who in their right mind would walk into this willingly? I know I wouldn't leave a job for this......
Especially a listing on monster.com. But remember, HP had hundreds of employees working on this. http://www.businessinsider.com/hp-has-600-employees-working-on-webos-201...
...500 of these employees is formed from low/mid/higher level "management" and "stakeholders" of all sorts, so that lefts 100 engineers, who have to bee shifted from Veer to TP to Pre 3, because there's not enough of them to work on all three of them in parallel.
Quoting Tim's "Of course, the problem that is readily apparent in every one of the 110 job listings is that they are all for the company Palm, Inc., which technically doesn't exist anymore"....
HP always advertised webOS jobs as for "Palm Inc". You can look back on some of the 50+ new requirements they posted on several job boards soon after the touchPad was released. they all said "Palm Inc". It doesnt mean Palm is a separate company now.
i think hp has a master plan, but obviously it isn't going the way they wanted it too... maybe they are just too stuborn to realize that they screwed up and pride is making them move forward to attempt to accomplish that original plan or they honestly don't know what their next step is. from the outside looking in, they are doing terrible, but as large of a company as they are, they must have some type of strategy to make them money, right? lol
this is how HP works: the public hears about major decisions at HP before any employee below executive level. To avoid stagnation, the universal message from the top on down is to continue "business as usual"... no matter how silly it is... until further details are provided. This ALWAYS takes several months time. So in the meantime, nobody is taking down webos or touchpad job postings, they might even post new ones that were already prepared, **** .. they might even interview. But one thing for sure is a hiring freeze always goes into effect while those bafoons are sitting in conference rooms, trying to figure out what to do.
Palm stopped posting jobs on their own site (palm.com/careers) back on the 15th of August.
These are all job postings and likely automatically renewed/reposted on Monster since they were not manually removed.
I doubt anyone would get a response since Palm is probably on a hiring freeze now. I have heard some Palm GBU employees are already starting to be let go.
I would think they need a lawyer to two after the shareholder lawsuits that may come their way. I surprised that noone has started a "Fire Leo" petition by now.
This is monster.x
One of my friends lost his job last month and he spent August applying for jobs that were listed on Monster as "today" and "last week", only to learn that they hired already last week or even last month.
My Boss once put an offer to them and after we found the right guy for the job, he wanted to take it down, again. The offer was still listed after one week.
This is some sort of "We have the most and best job offers on our site" thing.
yep. most online job sites i've seen especially the big ones are full of fake postings and posting that are from search firms. There may be some industries that have real jobs but not mine. I long ago quit looking there.
"To be honest, we still very little idea what exactly HP is planning on doing with webOS"
I imagine they'll tell us after they figure it out themselves. Currently - pretty sure they also have no clue.
sorry but monster.com is full of fake jobs, outdated jobs, especially anything the huge majority of the attorney jobs. Maybe it's great for other industries but in mine online websites are basically just temp firms posting fake jobs.
interestingly, at least the webos lawyer job is not posted on HP's website either.
here ya go. It's old. It's on the HPwebos site BUT POSTED JULY 25, 2011 http://recruit.trovix.com/jobhostmaster/jobhost/ViewJobPostDetails.do?ti...
or go here http://www.hpwebos.com/us/company/careers.html and search under legal and United States. the above link will appear. What was found was likely just an automatic reposting buy Monster.
Good luck to HP and WebOS. I will be switching to Android. I'm overwhelmed at how much better hardware is out there than my crappy pre. The Samsung Galaxy S II or the HTC EVO 3D? Having choices like this is much better than sitting around with my 2 year old crappy pre, which keeps failing me, searching the net for "Any news on Sprint getting the Pre 3 yet?"
As much as I love webOS, I am very anxious and excited to be switching to newer hardware with Android.
I will miss inductive charging, synergy & just type.
This news means absolutely nothing to the Mobile Device enthusiasts in this forum. Who are you trying to fool?
As for most online job bulletins being full of out dated or bogus postings it's most likely just that. I just hope that webos doesn't go down in history as being another one of those proprietary OS, of wich the proprietor won't release the source code for unknown reasons. I hope possibly that if hp ends up not using webos that they will release the source code for community developers. I think it would be a great os for tablets and netbooks. Maybe even getting a debian package manager. Hopefully webos doesn't end up becoming like HPUX, something Hp offers as proprietary, closed and not developed by the community to make it better. Sad to say as much as I enjoyed my pre, virgin had a better deal than sprint for unlimted data: $25 mo. Lg optimus does more than the pre on android, no flash though, o'well. Might not have switched if that pre3 had ever come out for sprint.
I realy enjoyed webos before Hp, time to move on.
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I really think the new Amazon tablet might be running WebOS... Maybe HP stopped the Touchpad to get out of the way before Amazon launches a very cheap WebOS tablet? At least HP's decision would make a little bit of sense if they made a WebOS deal with Amazon.