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Palm makes the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus official, Verizon only, and with tethering 94

by Derek Kessler Thu, 07 Jan 2010 5:45 pm EST

Palm Pre Plus

In what comes as little surprise by now, at CES Palm has officially announced the Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi Plus smartphones. The two devices are marginal upgrades over their predecessors, with the Pre Plus having double the memory of the original Pre (16 GB vs. 8 GB) and losing the center button, while the Pixi Plus gains Wi-Fi over its Sprint counterpart and coming in multiple colors.

Both devices are exclusive to Verizon and will be launching on January 25th, pricing unknown at this time. They will come with a new app called Mobile Hotspot, otherwise known as  mobile Wi-Fi hotspot tethering. The Wi-Fi hotspot functionality can support up to five connected devices at a time. At this time, it doesn't appear that the Mobile Hotspot app will be making its way to webOS devices on other networks.

Pricing for the Pre Plus, Pixi Plus, and service on Verizon was not announced.

UPDATE: Press release after the break.

Palm webOS Arrives on Verizon Wireless' Network With a Plus

Unique 3G Mobile Hotspot Feature Lets Customers Share with Up To Five Wi-Fi-Capable Devices

LAS VEGAS, Jan 07, 2010 /PRNewswire via COMTEX News Network/ -- Today at the 2010 International Consumer Electronics Show, Verizon Wireless and Palm, Inc. (Nasdaq: PALM) announced the Jan. 25 availability of Palm® Pre Plus and Palm Pixi Plus, bringing the Palm webOS experience to customers on the nation's largest and most reliable wireless 3G network.

Palm Pre Plus has a large, vivid touch screen; high-performance processor; and slide-out keyboard. The Pre Plus keyboard makes for quick and easy typing, while the unique gesture area provides a sleek look and intuitive navigation. Pre Plus also comes with the Palm Touchstone Back Cover, making the phone compatible with the revolutionary inductive Touchstone Charging Dock (sold separately). Verizon Wireless Pre Plus customers will also get 16 GB of storage (approximately 15 GB user available) for applications and media.

Feature-rich, Pre Plus and Pixi Plus offer Verizon Wireless customers greater flexibility for access to the Internet with Wi-Fi. In addition, the all-new Palm mobile hotspot, a webOS app that can be downloaded from the Palm App Catalog, gives customers the option of creating a personal Wi-Fi cloud capable of sharing the reliability and high-speed Internet connectivity of the Verizon Wireless 3G network with up to five Wi-Fi-enabled devices such as notebooks, netbooks, cameras, gaming devices or portable media/MP3 players.

Social communicators and first-time smartphone buyers who want an affordable and customizable phone and instant access to messaging and Web content will love Pixi Plus. Customers have a host of options for personalizing their phones with the separately-sold Palm Pixi Artist Series Back Covers (www.palm.com/artistseries) and new color Pixi Touchstone Back Covers, which will be available in pink, blue, green, orange and black.

"The Palm experience is all about helping our customers stay connected so they never miss a thing," said Jon Rubinstein, Palm chairman and chief executive officer. "We're constantly enriching this experience with new features and innovations. The Verizon Wireless launch of Pre Plus and Pixi Plus is the next phase in delivering this unique Palm experience to more people."

"The Palm webOS family is a great addition to Verizon Wireless' robust line-up of smartphones," said John Stratton, executive vice president and chief marketing officer for Verizon Wireless. "The outstanding capabilities and functionalities on both Pre Plus and Pixi Plus give customers a wealth of customization options to help them manage their lives. Customers get the latest technology from Palm along with the nation's largest and most reliable 3G network for an unsurpassed mobile experience."

Following are key features and specifications available on both Pre Plus and Pixi Plus:

  • webOS - Allows customers to run multiple applications simultaneously and provides over-the-air software updates delivered automatically to their devices
  • Palm Synergy - Brings customers' information from the many places it resides into a single, more comprehensive view
  • Unobtrusive notifications and universal search
  • Palm App Catalog - Currently offers more than 1,000 webOS applications for download
  • High-speed connectivity
  • Gesture area - Enables simple, intuitive gestures for navigation
  • Full QWERTY keyboard
  • High-performance, desktop-class Web browser
  • Wi-Fi 802.11 b/g
  • Integrated GPS
  • Robust messaging support (combining IM, SMS and MMS capabilities)
  • E-mail, including EAS (for access to corporate Microsoft Exchange servers) and personal e-mail support (Google Gmail push, Yahoo!®, POP3, IMAP)
  • VZ Navigator(SM) - Allows customers to get audible turn-by-turn directions to more than 15 million points of interest and share the directions with others
  • USB mass storage mode
  • Proximity sensor - Automatically disables the touch screen and turns off the display when consumers put their phones to their ears
  • Light sensor - Reduces power usage by dimming the display if the ambient light is dark
  • Accelerometer - Automatically orients Web pages and photos
  • Ringer switch - Easily silences the device with one touch
  • Removable, rechargeable battery
  • Multimedia options, including pictures, video playback and music as well as a camera with LED flash and a standard 3.5 mm headset jack
  • Bluetooth® 2.1 + EDR with A2DP stereo Bluetooth support
  • Charger/microUSB connector with USB 2.0 Hi-Speed

Additional Palm Pre Plus Specs

  • 3.0 megapixel camera with LED flash and extended depth of field
  • Slide-out QWERTY keyboard
  • Dimensions: 2.35" x 3.96" x 0.67"
  • Weight: 4.89 ounces

Additional Palm Pixi Plus Specs

  • 2.0 megapixel camera with LED flash
  • Fixed QWERTY keyboard
  • Dimensions: 2.17" x 4.37" x 0.43"
  • Weight: 3.26 ounces

Availability:

  • Palm Pre Plus and Palm Pixi Plus will be available online at www.verizonwireless.com and in Verizon Wireless Communications Stores beginning Jan. 25. Pricing will be announced closer to launch.
  • 3G mobile hotspot is a separately-purchased feature added to a voice and data plan.
  • For additional information on Verizon Wireless products and services, visit a Verizon Wireless Communications Store, call 1-800-2 JOIN IN or go to www.verizonwireless.com.

About Verizon Wireless

Verizon Wireless operates the nation's most reliable and largest wireless voice and 3G data network, serving 89 million customers. Headquartered in Basking Ridge, N.J., with 85,000 employees nationwide, Verizon Wireless is a joint venture of Verizon Communications (NYSE: VZ) and Vodafone (NYSE and LSE: VOD). For more information, visit www.verizonwireless.com. To preview and request broadcast-quality video footage and high-resolution stills of Verizon Wireless operations, log on to the Verizon Wireless Multimedia Library at www.verizonwireless.com/multimedia.

About Palm, Inc.

Palm, Inc. creates intuitive and powerful mobile experiences that enable consumers and businesses to connect to their information in more useful and usable ways. The company's groundbreaking Palm webOS platform, designed exclusively for mobile application, introduces true multitasking and Palm Synergy, which brings your information from the many places it resides into a single, more comprehensive view of your life.

Palm products are sold through select Internet, retail, reseller and wireless operator channels, and at the Palm online store (www.palm.com/store).

More information about Palm, Inc. is available at www.palm.com.

NOTE: Email, mobile number, and related information required for setup and activation of Pre Plus and Pixi Plus.

Palm, Pixi, Pre, Synergy, Touchstone, and webOS are trademarks of Palm, Inc. All other brand and product names are or may be trademarks of, and are used to identify products or services of, their respective owners.

SOURCE Verizon Wireless

94 Comments

Does anyone else feel like Sprint is used up stepchild?

Sprint management are big boys (or girls). They got benefits just as Palm did. That's business. They knew full well Palm would eventually roll out to others. Don't feel sorry for them.

I totally agree with you. I don't feel sorry for them. I just wonder what effect this will have on them if they don't get the same equipment upgrades that Verizon does. I knew the Pre would not be exclusive to Sprint forever, but to give Verizon more than Sprint is a little douchey... Hopefully Palm will upgrade Sprint's Pre even more.

I think you're looking at this wrong. Competition is a good thing. If this causes sprint to lose customers, then sprint has to fight back with something. I'm glad that VZW has upped the game.

No. It's because Verizon WANTS you to tether your devices. Most people get a 2-6 GB a month plan on Verizon, and when you go over that limit, you get slammed by a huge bill. Tethering is a MUST HAVE for Verizon management. As for Sprint, they give you a fairly cheap unlimited plan...and they know that if they allow tethering officially, their network will get slammed PLUS they'll have a lot of other ISPs trying to bust their doors down. I know if I had Verizon DSL and unlimited Sprint with tethering, I'd just drop my DSL and tether my laptop to my phone all the time if I wanted to save a few bucks. THAT is why Sprint doesn't officially support tethering.

I'm wondering how they'll manage the tethering. I can't see it as just some ploy to grab overages, though that's clever. I'm expecting more a "pay to play" type thing where a meter runs or there's an extra monthly fee when using the app.

Palm got me to switch to Sprint. I won't be switching again for 18 months, so they did something right.

I don't understand why Sprint and Verizon both can't sell the Palm Pre and Pixi Plus?

Tell me about it. What kind of sense does it make to not release these updated phones with Sprint? MISTAKE

theire are a fuc@#$%%#$@#$kers!!!!


ihate things like this, im angry, and,,, mmmm bye

exactly

According to what was being reported live they will also be Touchstone ready out of the box and have a variety of color phones. Unsure if that was just for the Pixi or if multicolor Pres will be available as well.

Gizmodo claims that the Pre Plus will have 2x internal Ram as well as 16gbs of memory. Can anyone confirm since my usual source (precentral) said nothing in this post about the RAM?

there aren't 2 separate ram chips.

I very much doubt it's using flash as its active memory. It will have a separate 128/256/something chip.

That's not he was asking, and I also saw 2x RAM. If that's true, THAT and the 16 GB storage really makes this a Plus. It looks like, according to the bullet points, that BOTH the RAM and the internal storage have been included. 512 MB RAM. Wow. Have to wait for the official spec sheet.
Really wish I had a shot at this, although I'm sure when June rolls around we will be looking at a pre2 on sprint. Hopefully...

Oh man, I thought I signed up with Sprint years ago because that was "the Palm carrier." Guess not. :( Hopefully in six months Pre Plus will hit Sprint. I imagine Sprint is going to have a hard time marketing its webOs devices now that they are crippled in comparison to what Verizon has. This seems bad for Sprint/Palm relations...

Yeah, pretty much how I feel. I was loyal to Palm and got a Pre as soon as I could, and now I kinda feel like I got kicked in the nuts over it. I wouldn't care if it were a brand new phone or something, but now I just have a phone that is only partially as good as what it should have been from the beginning. Yes, I get to pay less per month, and yes, I've had the phone for longer than the people who will get the Verizon version, but they're essentially the same phone except mine isn't as good. Lame as hell...hope these hit Sprint in six months like you said.

I think the only people who are upset about this are Sprint fanboys. Sprint got 6 months of exclusivity, which was more than enough.

Also, the Pre Plus isn't THAT much better. Relax.

I disagree, but I suppose it depends on your definition of a fanboy. I'm a Sprint customer because the fit and the price work best for me in my area. I'll also have to admit to being annoyed by Verizon (not just Verizon Wireless, but the whole company) and how smug they appear to me. There's believing and being enthusiastic about your product, but if you go to far, I call it being smug. On the other hand, I was amused by Verizon and AT&T's little tiff recently... but now I digress.

I'm annoyed because Palm touted their new offering on Verizon as a freedom of choice, yet now that the Pre has advanced to a point where I'd consider purchasing it, I don't have the freedom to purchase that version on the carrier I've chosen.

Let me be very clear. In my area (just outside Boston, MA), you cannot beat Verizon's coverage. (Edit: I also wish Sprint went with the crowd and picked LTE... imagine if all the carriers used the same tech... I wonder if that would improve coverage overall.) However, for 99.9% of Verizon's coverage, I get a significantly better price on Sprint, and at the time I purchased my Touch Pro (just over a year ago) Verizon's smartphone prices couldn't touch Sprint's. So I don't feel like that freedom that was boasted about was offered to me... even if I were to purchase the phone unsubsidized.

Hmmm... three paragraph rant near midnight... I guess I was a bit more annoyed than I thought.

tw, I know I do. I purchased my Pre on the release day and frankly have not been all that impressed with the phone. The Pixi plus would give me the functions I have now, without the useless sliding case crap and all the issues that go with it. And yet, the only way I can get one now would be to ditch Sprint and go with Verizon. Why in the world would they make this exclusive only to Verizon when it's a natural progression of the phone's development? What's next...making the phone exclusive to AT&T they next time they upgrade some feature on the phone?

The reason it's exclusive is simple: Verizon has very specific requirements for smartphones on their network. For one, Verizon bottlenecks them. Don't believe me? Try it out. I used to work with carriers writing software that was packaged with their phones. For another, Verizon likes it when you tether, because you don't realize how much data you're transmitting, and that makes it very easy to exceed your plan and get slammed with a much bigger bill.

Most of the requirements Verizon puts on smartphones involve ways for Verizon to protect the bandwidth of their network while finding every way they can to get cash out of your wallet. Sprint's main trick is to charge late fees on your monthly bill...but you can avoid that with autopay or just paying your bill on time. Verizon lets you slip because they found other, more effective ways to rip you off. I had Verizon DSL for 5 years, and had Verizon phone service for 4 years, and both times it ended with me being extremely furious with them for trying to rip me off. More than once, over that whole time.

I hope that the mobile hotspot goes to sprint too, because if it doesn't that is a huge disappointment.

its just an app, somebody will crack it to run on all pre's

how has nobody on this thread heard of or has mentioned mytether? there are both free and paid versions of software that will do that for free without extra data charges on your bill.

Exactly. That's why I say Sprint doesn't "officially" spread the word about or support tethering. You can do it, though, they don't like to talk about it. Sprint knows that it's a side effect of supporting an open platform, and they knew that risk going in.

Ok. But as of right now, mytether doesn't work with wifi unless you apply a "patch". That patch installs the old linux kernel so that it can use the old wifi driver that enables adhoc wifi networking. The current wifi driver does not permit that. Using the old kernel breaks the camera.

I really hope that 1.4 puts back a wifi driver that allows adhoc. Because BT and USB tethering suck (IMHO).

yeah actually tethering does work...
you have to disable wifi to start the camera. I know because im posting from my laptop and playing COD4 on PS3 all online from my tethered connection from the pre :)

Before everyone starts freaking out, remember that it would make more sense for Palm to release an updated version of the Pre for Sprint in June, when all of the Pre-owning Sprint Premier customers hit their upgrade availability. Otherwise, everyone would be miffed that a new Pre is out with 6 more months to hit subsidized pricing (remember the iPhone 3G fisaco?) I'm guessing that we'll see a further updated version of the Pre (perhaps a true "Pre 2") around that time.

I think you have this right on the money. Palm will be coming out with a even better phone come June 2010 for us Sprint customers. Better then the Pre Plus. I don't think it will have the Pre name at all however. The Pre and Pixi are what they are and now it is time to move on to better hardware.

I know this sort of steps out of the game plan for Palm issuing new hardware. But I think they will find it is needed to support the up and coming webOS requirements and capabilities.

Palm has to make sure that their hardware keeps up with their software!

Sounds right to me as well. So impressed with Palm today. Damn.

Guys! Launch 25th Jan, one day before Apple! They are showing apple they know what's up. NICE JOB PALM! The bright colours is fantastic@!!!@!@!@

I actually think Palm has something for Sprint but will announce it later.

It would make sense for Palm to release a Pre with 4G on the only 4G network in the US. That would close the loop.

it's all about marketing announcing a new webOS device would just steal the thunder from VZW(Pr?+).

yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to do that whole Get Out of Jail free thing and switch to the big V.

So you're gonna pay a lot more per month just so you can get a bit more storage and lose the front button? That's seriously nuts. We got the launch, they get version 1.5, and chances are we will get version 2 of Palm's offerings when it comes out. That's how it rolls in this business.

Also, I wonder how long it will take people to port the tethering app to Sprint. It never took long to port GPS stuff from Sprint WM phones to VZW and WebOS seems a lot easier to hack.

just throwing out a joke, braddah.

I hope the hotspot app is beeing ported to all devices.... best would be a free homebrew app that can do the same and isnt locked to verizon...!

The existing homebrew tether app only costs $15.

I want a pre plus.. *tear* I don't wanna switch carriers though.. bring this to sprint!

OK, how fast can we move the Mobil Hotspot to the Sprint Pre?

According to Engadget's coverage of AT&T, (look to thier voerage page), AT&T said they will have 2 new Palm WebOS devices in the first half of 2010, but, they refused to discuss anything further, except for stating that their customers 3G experiences will be much improved by them.

:)

I sincerely doubt those devices will be anything other than the Pre and Pixi.

i can accept this being exclusive to verizon for now, but come june, i better be able to purchase an updated palm product (be it a pre 2, or pre plus, whatever)

Did you honestly think that Palm would give Verizon an 'old' phone for their premiere launch? Of course they got the updated version. I knew this would happen when I bought my Pre last June. And in a few months Sprint will have a better version that the Verizon Pre. And guess what? Verizon customers will bitch about that also.

Its technology and it always improves. I am surprised people don't know this by now.

2 new palm products...pre plus and pixi plus...

I imagine most carriers will offer an upgrade option eventually, once Verizon's exclusivity ends.

as far as the pre plus is concerned, i didn't care about the storage upgrade, nor about pixi having wifi...but this double the RAM business has me heated.

Yea that's just not cool.

No center button means no LED notifications. I really like having the notification feature!

correct me if i'm wrong, but doesn't the center bar on the pixi light up? wouldn't that be used as a notification?

yes, it does.

This is such a weird misconception, I've seen it all over the web.

THERE IS STILL AN LED.

Don't feel bad Sprint folk - VZW likes FEES - Alot - I still can't wait ...

The lack of Sprint tethering is a CARRIER issue, it's not an app. Use that well-honed skill of whining you built up on PreCentral to go after Sprint. Pick key phrases like:

- Why does Verizon let me tether and you don't?
- Why does Bell Canada let me tether and you don't?
- I want to tether but you won't let me. Do you hate America?

Give those a shot and Sprint customers might just get this.

I have a Touch Pro 2 in addition to my Pre on Sprint, and the TP2 can tether via USB or WiFi. I don't see why Sprint would have a problem with this on the Pre if it's supported on their other phones.

It will be slightly harder for sprint to get new palm pre customers however everyone who is willing to switch to sprint probably already has. I don't feel that bad having "inferior" hardware. I don't use my pre as a media player as I hate being an ipod zombie and having headphones in my ears 24/7. Though with the new games the current 7 GB that I have free might go fast.

I don't have any desire to upgrade. Remember "the perfect is the enemy of good." Until there is a "killer-ap" that requires a new phone I'll keep to my trusty Pre.

The one dissappointment I saw was that Palm did not address the business/healthcare industry. I really want a native Lexicomp/Epocrates stat and it would be nice if they said something about document support. For example, why can't the pre access shared documents (google docs, microsoft exchange etc.). Such would be an extremely useful feature.

yeah, I'm thinking I'm going to do that whole Get Out of Jail free thing and switch to the big V.

Got me considering it too on all 5 of my lines. Never know though though what might be coming to Sprint this summer. Maybe the iPhone and for sure more Android devices.

att is also getting 2 webos devices this year... I really want to go back to sprint to save money but well see what comes to ATT

I wanna see how many people leave their shit droid and move on to a palm pre in verizon

I wonder how many of Verizon's customers will even be aware of the Pre. The Droid had major marketing. Pre/Pixi + launches in under 20 days on Verizon and I haven't seen any marketing on it yet. Seems to me that V does not see the Pre as a flagship phone. Could it be that they want it simply as an option for those who would consider leaving them for Sprint as in (fine, if you really like the Pre, don't switch because we have it as well...but have you considered the Droid?) Could be why they mentioned it a few times last year. I dunno.

I do hope they market it. More sales the better.

Unless they are still with in there 30 day return period, who would drop a phone they just paid $200 for and pay full price ($500+ most likely) to switch phones. Maybe a few but come on...

Verizon is taking over the world..... now I hope they don't get the iPhone 4G. Or there will be no competition anymore....

PRICE is the competition. It would cost me twice as much to have the same family plan on Verizon, 4 phones with 3000 minutes, any cell, with unlimited everthing else. about $200 on Sprint almost $400 on verizon. Verizon may have a better service but it's not good enough to justify that kind of price differance.

verizon and at&t just finished switching to 3g about two years ago, they won't have 4g for about 5 to 6 years and it won't be complete.. Sprint has 4g now in alot of cities and it's fast... Fuck verizon...lol

I meant 4G as in the next-gen iPhone.

why did they drop the color from the number keys?

Looks like the Pre Plus has a monotone keyboard

What is the "get out of jail free" card about?

I like having a center button... I know I can use a gesture instead, but switching in and out of card view is so frequent for me that I think it deserves a hardware button.

Agreed. Plus it could be harnessed to do more (double-click, hold-down, etc.- much like the iPhone)

I also agree. I would prefer the hardware button. However..... some gestures that require a full length swipe, the center button gets in the way.

so engadget says the keys are more blackberry-like, and the slider is hugely improved. Will this be making its way to gsm I wonder?

so engadget says the keys are more blackberry-like, and the slider is hugely improved. Will this be making its way to gsm I wonder?

Finally, the best phones on the (grudgingly) best network in the US.
The only downside: The loss of the center button. I actually really like a center button. Oh well.

I find it VERY interesting that NOBODY can access the center button and make it do...SOMETHING!! If one of the amazing developers on this site can dig into the code and just make it wake up I'll be truly happy. Everyone that picks up my phone for the first time clicks that damn button...and I say, "dude it only switches to card view". No button means no possible option to wake without going for the corner.

I LOVE this phone. Feels more like a "computer" than anything else.....

The Pre is the best, and only getting better with each new update. That being said, I do like Sprint's pricing, but not their service. Dropped calls, non-existent 3G network, and Roaming that doesn't work (yes, it's turned on and the Roam Only app is installed, but still no-go). Also, there is a 300MB limit to Roaming before Sprint reserves the right to start charging, or to kick you off.

I'll post the reference in the next message, to avoid clutter here.

Question (if anyone knows): Since the backup is on palm and not on sprint.com, if I move from Sprint to Verizon at the end of the month, will all my paid apps move with the new Pre (with the ported number), or will I have to start over?

I'd like to try some of the new apps now, but to pay ~10.00 and then have to repay for it in 30 days - I could wait.

Thanks

I know, Sprint is cheaper, but so is the service (where I live).

Reference to the 300MB limit on Roaming.

"Data Usage Limitation (Mobile Broadband Cards, USB Modems, Embedded Modems and Phone-As-Modem): The amount of data transmitted over our network is measured in kilobytes (KB), megabytes (MB) or gigabytes (GB). Sprint reserves the right to limit throughput speeds or amount of data transferred; and to deny, terminate, modify, disconnect or suspend service if usage either exceeds (a.) 5GB/month in total, unless specified otherwise or (b.) 300MB/month while off-network roaming. 1024KB equal 1MB. 1024MB equal 1GB."

(http://nextelonline.nextel.com/en/legal/legal_terms_privacy_popup.shtml?...)

Off-network Roaming on Sprint Phones: Not available with single-band phones, or to customers residing outside an area covered by the Nationwide Sprint Network. Sprint may terminate service if (1) more than 800 minutes, (2) a majority of minutes or (3) a majority of data kilobytes in a given month are used while roaming. International calling, including in Canada and Mexico, is not included in plans with no roaming charges. Roaming usage may be invoiced after 30-60 days. Data services and certain calling features (Voicemail, Caller ID, Call Waiting, etc.) may not be available in all roaming areas.

This is shitty. I just switched to Sprint to get this phone... YOU SUCK PALM

Move to France and switch to SFR. They're getting it too apparently.

i think palm sucks for this move too. i cannot believe palm is screwing us sprint customers over by releasing something bigger and better for another company.WE ARE THE ONES THAT HAVE SUFFERED THROUGH THIS SUB-PAR RELEASE FOR MONTHS.you have lost an advocate:( i wish i could talk to somebody over there,face to face.dont you idiots realize that if you make us switch carriers to have the latest and greatest that alot of us are going to be pissed and choose a different/better device? who is approving these decisions over there?its so insane that palm would do this;something exclusive that the ENTIRE WebOS community would have to switch carriers to have? my god you guys are dumb.your fan base isn't big enough for this move. my 5 year old niece could come up with a better business model than this.

believe me,i have wanted to bitch and complain many, many times now but have always tried to stay positive and remember that this is a new platform and palm just needs time and support to get the bugs/features worked out.un-freaking real.what a backhanded bitch slap!YOU GUYS SUCK AND I HOPE YOU GO UNDER.

Maybe no one was listening very closely when the tethering feature was announced by the guy clearly said that you "Download the Mobile Hot Spot application from the Palm app catalog, install it on your device, ADD THE APPROPRIATE FEATURE TO YOUR VOICE AND DATA PLAN, and you'll have high speed internet connection in moments."

Sounds like Verizon is going to charge you for this feature, probably in the same way that Sprint charges to use the MiFi. Did you really think Verizon would just give away this kind of access to their network? They charge a monthly rate for their netbooks that are loaded to be Verizon Netbook ready so why wouldn't they do the same here?

As an original Pre owner, I kind of feel kicked in the balls about the 16GB version and double RAM within 7 months but hey, if Palm does that, what will they have for me in June? ;)

I know I may be biased because I probably am a Sprint fan-boy (I've had them for 8 years, only wireless carrier) but I've never had an issue they haven't made right and their prices and phones are always top notch. I wasn't very happy about having to upgrade to an Everything Data plan but I understand the cost of business and all that. Besides, I really didn't want to be a trend follower like all the iPhone users out there, and switch to a phone with more useless stuff than productive innovations. Trendy, self-conscious people buy Apple products. It's not because they are better, they just want to be "different". As the saying goes "When people are free to do what they choose, they usually choose to imitate each other."

okay i just saved up 250 dollars and i am willing to buy a palm pre and i dont know what service to get it with should i wait a couple of more weeks and get the pre plus or just go ahead and get the palm pre from sprint help me please

If you had to "save" to get $250, you might wanna look at the pricing of the plans.

Sprint's monthly plans are cheaper, over all. I've had the Pre with Sprint since day 1. My sister just got one from RadioShack.com for $79 (she had previously been with ATT).

I dislike Verizon immensely after being treated like crap, their billing constantly makes mistakes, and as a former Alltel customer who got forcibly switched to Verizon, I have no intention of ever signing with them. This is our second go round with Sprint and we are again very pleased with the plan and the excellent customer service. I do hope eventually Sprint will get the Pre Plus. To not offer that to existing Pre user Sprint customers seems insane to me. Oh and anyone who thinks that Verizon isn't going to charge out the wazoo for data transfer on the tethering, is dreaming.

Still waiting for webOS in Australia.

Something just occurred to me:

I travel to Lafayette, Louisiana frequently. Sprint does not have 3G in that area, nor is there any indication that they will any time soon (according to the local Sprint Service Center there). :(

Verizon works much better there.

If I have a friend there with a Verizon Pre Plus and "Palm mobile hotspot," I can have them turn that on, and use my Sprint Pre's WiFi to take advantage of that speed!

Funky!

I have very mixed feelings about this news.

While I'm pleased to see a 16 GB version of the Pre, I'm not happy at all that it is a Verizon exclusive.

You see, I've been waiting a long time to get a Pre.

In mid-October of 2009, my Verizon contract was finally up. I had initially planned to jump ship and move to Sprint. I couldn't wait, in fact -- I loathe Verizon. However, it was right at that point that we started hearing rumors of something new to be announced from Palm.

So, after waiting that long, I waited three more months.

And now, we get this.

I want a Pre, but I want the updated model. However, I do not want to stay with Verizon. That means either going with the outdated version on Sprint, or getting locked in to another contract with an expensive carrier that I despise.

I feel that I have no good choices, here, and I've waited about seven months already. I don't want to wait any longer.

:(

Before you all freak out dont forget the fabled palm C40 seen on sprints inventory list.... noone knows what that is yet

I agree - the PALM C40 is something HUGE coming for Sprint i bet. It doesn't even have a code name yet so I'm sure it's gonna deserve its own coming out party in Summer. I'm willing to bet it's gonna be an AWESOME phone with all the "standard" superphone features today:

1. snapdragon or faster processor
2. more ram and external storage
3. large AMOLED screen
4. etc etc

well now i wish i had verizon lol. But they have definitely turned me off from their internet services. Tennessee health insurance