Palm Pre and Business: Upgraded, More Upgrades to Come 41
We've got two business-related stories about the Palm Pre to give to you.
First, in the dearth of Pre sales numbers, a disproportionate amount of our posts have been based on analyst conjecture -- which had led to plenty of consternation. Recently, though, Palm let us know that there's an analyst report based on fact and testing that's worth pointing out. Ken Dulaney of Gartner Research recently upgraded the company's enterprise category for the Pre from "Concierge" to "Appliance" thanks to Palm's addition of Remote Wipe and Password complexity requirements:
We have tested these policies on the device, and they have passed our tests. We will now categorize the Palm Pre, along with Research In Motion's BlackBerry, Windows Mobile devices, Nokia E-Series phones and Apple iPhones in the appliance category.
Gartner uses three levels to categorize smartphones: "Concierge" for basic business requirements, "Appliance" for heavy-duty business use (Blackberry wins out here), and "Platform" for the really hardcore stuff (Windows Mobile is the leader here). The Appliance level is the main level, so it's great to see the Pre graduate to it.
Next up, an interview with a Palm VP who talk Pre in business and hints at an upgrade to Universal Search coming down the pike.
Palm's Vice-President of Business Products, John Traynor, has taken a break from the Treo Pro to submit himself to an interview about the Pre and business. There's not much in there that devoted Pre fans don't already know, but we do like his comments on webOS being a platform that business can trust they can depend on for many years:
Those customers appreciate that kind of “future-proofing” and are telling us they are confident about seeing us deliver more updates, and more value, as the platform matures.
The oft-forgotten truth about smartphones in business is that the upgrade cycle looks nothing like the consumer upgrade cycle -- it's a much longer time between phones for these folks and so knowing that the OS will not only be around but continue to see upgrades is highly important.
Traynor also points out that the Pre is the first smartphone to support multiple Exchange accounts (ironically, he does this twice) and hints that Universal Search is due for an upgrade sometime soon:
[...] universal search goes beyond searching what’s on the device by also searching the web. There are certainly some interesting ways to extend that capability even further, and we’re thinking about things like that
We like the sound of that - currently there's a bitter taste in our mouth when we say "Universal Search," because its limitations are manifold when compared to spotlight on the iPhone.



























41 Comments
Nice. Although I hope they have universal search then in the categories have like "Emai" or "Media"...as I don't need to have a billion choices if I type something common like "John"
Agreed about Universal Search. I was on my gf's iPhone and wanted to play a song. Before I went into the iPod app and scroll through users, etc. I remembered Spotlight was implemented and I just typed in the song name and it popped right up. I was quite jealous. Would love to see more features like that implemented on the Pre's UniSearch.
Some would call it bad marketing, or misleading. When I think of Universal search I think it will look all over the phone for the word I typed in. It currently doesn't do that. Just apps and contacts.
I would really like this feature to have some extension and have it actually be a universal search.
Either way, I am glad to see Palm getting their palms in the business market a bit more.
If Palm wants to blow away both RIM and Apple for business, it will prioritize Bluetooth keyboard and other non-entertainment profile support, especially given the likely document editing software soon to come. {ProfJonathan}
Lets start with searching on the Pre THEN add more cloud integration. Mkay. Thks.
Garnet OS search still wins. :)
it works fine for me.
Wrong place bro... and you may want to tune down the Caps.
interesting...have you know how it works or do you even have one? because i used to have a blackberry the king of business phones and for me the Pre works for business and personal entertainment. so unless you really have one you need to speak quieter...or just clean shut up
could you give examples of "steps backwards?" I don't have a treo or blackberry so i'd like to know.
I for the most part agree. I can't use it for my business because I need to, you know, actually have access to data quickly (customers, appointments, phone #s). The Pre is pretty but with no search function and a terribly slow calendar, the Treo is where it's at for me.
Hmm... A lot of people are complaining about the calendar. Why do you say it's a dog?
It's terribly slow, there aren't categories, there is no search function
wrong post
I think most people are more than willing to cut Palm some slack for having a 1.0 product. But when it comes to searching the device, the comparison that is truly relevant isn't with the iPhone -- it's with the PalmPilot 1000. Palm got it right -- in 1996. Why the step backward with WebOS?
I have Palm pilot, Treo 650, Palm Centro... what Search app are you talking about on Palm OS that searches across emails/memos/tasks??? I need to add that app to my Centro.
I plan to get GSM Palm Pre next year.
It's the default search function of the device... the magnifying glass (it's not an actual app but it's a button to push). On the Treo 650 press the symbol button and then the left shift button. You can type in a word, phrase, or numbers and the entire phone will be searched and results will be returned categorically based on where that string was found... on mine the results are in "Pics&Videos" "Google Maps" "Google Web" "Contacts" "Calendar" "Memos" "Tasks" "HoliDates" "RealPlayer Songs" "VersaMail Messages" & "Notes". Extremely useful and essential for me.
The cloud can wait. Right now, we desperately need to have search upgraded to find stuff that's already on the phone. Somebody at Palm dropped the ball on this.
This is exactly what I was going to say.
The hint was to search for more things EXTERNALLY. When in reality, the Pre should be searching more things INTERNALLY.
I hope they have update plans for more than just Universal Search. :)
I agree that the Pre shouldn't be compared to an iPhone 1.0, but you still have to give it a little slack as a 1st gen device.
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There have already been a number of important updates to the Pre, and there are more in the pipes.
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The App catalog is something that comes up a lot in this discussion, for instance, but for the wrong reason. In order for a phone like this to succeed in today's market, it had to have one at launch, not a year later. But you have to give Palm a huge amount of slack here. In order to post an app cat they have to build a structure for selling the apps, get enough devices into the market that developers are interested in developing for the device, and then vet the apps so they don't put items on the store that will in some way "break" the phone. These things take time, and in all honesty Palm is flying through them.
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I think you are better off comparing the Pre to the iPhone 3g (not S) which it comes very close to in all aspects. It misses a few points that the iPhone 3g has and it has several things that the 3g doesn't.
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I would say in a year, though, Palm will need WebOS to be competing with the "iPhone 5 Jobs Edition" (or whatever they decide to call gen 5). Palm will literally have to leap frog the competition to compete in the market.
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They've looked strong so far, so as long as the market will bear it, I think they can do it. We'll see though.
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In the meantime, I'm lovin' my Pre and I can't wait to be able to search my emails...
AMEN, MAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I agree the search could and should be better.
However, some things I am shaking my head at are the idea that calenders don't have "categories" or that the pre bogs down on any app besides the music player.
For calendars just create separate google calendars for your "categories" my wife and I sync several calendars and then I have my work and personal calendar.
Overall, the device does 90% of what I need out of the box and UNLIKE MANY PEOPLE, I was NOT expecting this to be a finished product out of the box. If you want to know the truth I expected it to be buggier and less responsive and stable till major OS updates were released. Think Blackberry Storm! Instead, I had very few complaints that I don't see eventually being fixed.
Bottom line is don't buy a 1G phone on release if you want a polished product. I hope and expect by spring of 2010 (if not sooner) the WebOS, apps, and functionality will become much more polished, but I can't say the phone is awful as is, and if anything exceeded my expectations for now.