Palm Pre Flash Still on Track 36
Palm has previously said that we could expect Flash on the Palm Pre and webOS by year's end and to tell the truth, "End of the Year" is still the date we're keeping in mind. This despite Adobe's recent earnings call [via WMExperts] where they revealed that Flash Player 10 for mobile devices will be released in beta form in October:
We are bringing Flash Player 10 to smartphone class devices to enable the latest web browsing experience. Multiple partners have already received early version of this release and we expect to release a beta version for developers at our Max conference in October. Google’s Android, Nokia’s Symbian OS, Windows Mobile and the new Palm Web OS will be the first devices to support web browsing with the new Flash player…
Not that we'd complain if the October Beta found its way on to our devices right away, because we have a few ideas about what it would be good for.
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Wish they would bring it MUCH sooner !! Any news on when this phone will do video ? Still cant believe Palm allowed this phone out without it knowing the Iphone would do video ??
coming soon: palm pr0n
I just hope there will be a way to turn Flash - and its security loopholes - on and OFF !!
Anyone noticed one particular fruity smartphone not being mentioned as part of the first group of mobile devices to get this?
Just saw on G4TV that it WILL NOT be for the Iphone, but apps can be developed for it with flash based SDK's. See the link below, video will be up soon to view.
http://g4tv.com/attackoftheshow/thefeed/68609/The-Daily-Feed-with-Blair-...
Glaring omission, no?
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You have to love it when people blame the technology for the developer incompetence.
OMG, please make sure that if Flash is added that we can TURN IT OFF BY DEFAULT. Additionally, rending the page with placeholders and a gesture or option to turn it on each time we want to download and see the stuff.
Otherwise we are going to have Pre's that:
1) Take 20 min to load a page
2) Annoy the CRAP out of us with animation
3) Crash the phone constantly
4) Eat up all available RAM
5) Cause scrolling and zooming to be so slow as to be unusable
6) Reduce the battery life to 20 min
R u kidding? How do you surf the web, view youtube, view the majority of multimedia content out there without flash? Flash is the reason I rarely use my phone as a browser, because without it, the web is boring, and I can't view the majority of multimedia content or sites I want without it! I'd never think of turning flash off on my desktop (or have to worry about it) and all I want is to be able to use my phone's browser to view identical content exactly as I view it on my desktop..
Not to mention, as soon as flash is available - instantly have access to 1,000's of applications, and as a developer I can make one app and it works and looks the same way on PRE, Linux, Windows, Mac, etc...
-D2G
Not kidding at all! I won't deny that Flash can be very useful. And for certain sites (like Youtube) it is essential. But far too many sites are littered with just plain JUNK. There are sites that won't work correctly without Flash- which is just horrible design. And others are just extremely annoying (I can't stand animation when I am trying to read an article).
I guarantee if you add Flash to a tight browser like WebKit, it will be much, much, much slower to load pages, use much more memory, eat up battery life like no tomorrow, and possibly make the phone unstable. It is bad enough with a full, modern, powerful desktop- but we are talking a PHONE! There just isn't that much memory, CPU, power, and bandwidth.
I would *love* to have the option of using Flash on the Pre. It could be extremely useful and entertaining. But *ONLY* if *I* can control if, when, and where it is used. If it is just "turned on" with no control, we are screwed. Besides, the control I am asking for is something we can do already on our desktops with Firefox + Flashblock or Flashkill.
What part of Flash-'mobile'-edition you don't get?
This guy is talking like they are going to release desktop flash for mobile devices...dude get a clue
OK, so regular desktop Flash wastes 20% of my bandwidth, loading time by 25%, and annoys me 50% of the time. So perhaps the mobile edition is scaled back to be much, much, much more efficient on mobile platforms so it can keep those same desktop ratios on a machine with 1/8th the memory and 1/8th the CPU? We will be fortunate... :)
Maybe we can somehow use the Mobile edition on desktops then?
Today is the Adobe Max, I hope I can get my hands on the beta today. I also hope that the API can get into the GPS too.
Promises... Promises... October? Funny, yeah, I'm not laughing. Come on Adobe... This is December 1 already! You showed us how cool the flash is working on the pre already. Well guess what, Pixi second generation WebOS is out too now. Where is the promised flash? If it is not working as well on the other platforms yet then leave them be for now and give us our beta a.s.a.p. Please? Broken promises only makes you look incompetent.
flash player. Why would you want it? To view flash-based web pages be and/or your favorite porn site? Get a computer then. Sure flash will eventually come to the pre and pixi but will it really be worthwhile? Flash as stated above makes everything slower and more frustrating because there are idiots out there who think putting up moving advertisements on a webpage isn't annoying. Newflash (no pun intended) it is. Webkit is an excellent browser sans-flash, but if you want to waste your time and possibly money on adobe's latest creation, go ahead.
besides, read closely, on the 'general user guide: important safety and legal information' document (handed out with every palm pre/pixi, past all the orange and plastic) you'll find it says that 'occasionally you may be asked if you'd like to accept a paid software update.'
now do you honestly think that adobe and palm'd really just give us a free flashplayer software update for webOS as a newyears gift? Don't think so. As blunt as I sound, I'm telling what seems to be the truth. Adobe will release flash, and palm will push a software update, and it will be assigned to your palm product, whether you accept it and risk your device crashing is up to you.
but atleast you can rest assured that your palm profile will always be intact.
and uhmm get a camcorder. Why didn't you do your homework on the pre? Your complaints on buy a video-recordingless device is your own fault. So STOP complaining. I think it'd be best for you to just wait for the update. And btw I'm sure you were aware of your wife/fiance
You are completely retarded, and your post goes to show you that you don't know that Flash can be programmed using opensource software, free software, used for education, CBT courses, showing examples, demonstrations, animation, UI entries. Movies in HTML 5 do not have the flexibility of decision based animations or paths.
Regardless of what you think about Flash, at least hate it for all the right reasons like CPU load, memory consumption, not lame old flash 'only used for movie' marketing which doesn't fly.
More kids benefit from flash education than people think.
PBS anyone?
http://pbskids.org/games/
flash player. Why would you want it? To view flash-based web pages be and/or your favorite porn site? Get a computer then. Sure flash will eventually come to the pre and pixi but will it really be worthwhile? Flash as stated above makes everything slower and more frustrating because there are idiots out there who think putting up moving advertisements on a webpage isn't annoying. Newflash (no pun intended) it is. Webkit is an excellent browser sans-flash, but if you want to waste your time and possibly money on adobe's latest creation, go ahead.
besides, read closely, on the 'general user guide: important safety and legal information' document (handed out with every palm pre/pixi, past all the orange and plastic) you'll find it says that 'occasionally you may be asked if you'd like to accept a paid software update.'
now do you honestly think that adobe and palm'd really just give us a free flashplayer software update for webOS as a newyears gift? Don't think so. As blunt as I sound, I'm telling what seems to be the truth. Adobe will release flash, and palm will push a software update, and it will be assigned to your palm product, whether you accept it and risk your device crashing is up to you.
but atleast you can rest assured that your palm profile will always be intact.
and uhmm get a camcorder. Why didn't you do your homework on the pre? Your complaints on buy a video-recordingless device is your own fault. So STOP complaining. I think it'd be best for you to just wait for the update. And btw I'm sure you were aware of your wife/fiance
I believe that flash is done. HTML5 well replace it. Hope they are still working on it. Not sure if HTML5 is compatible with Pre.
Posted on Pre :)
where is the flash?
where the f is my flash player! lol
yes some flash will do the pre much justice
Why does the Nexus one have Flash and the Pre still doesn't?
Was that the Gregorian calender in which they referred to?
http://developer.palm.com/appredirect/?packageid=com.pos.webosw
Easter Egg App. Beta But Might Be Pulled Soon, Flash Player Installer
*sigh*
http://www.adobe.com/flashplatform/supported_devices/smartphones.html
They don't even list it any more. I'm at the end of my contract so I have to put this down to a Palm Fail.
Andriod it is then.
Is Flash still on track? End of year?
Which year?
What the **** palm,HP, and Adobe. I got my Pre more than a year ago and it seems that flash on the palm has digressed. Im really disappointed in you. You had so much potential.