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by Dieter Bohn Fri, 01 Jan 2010 9:01 pm EST

We're not expecting the huge, game-changing, brand-new mobile operating system and phone that we got last year at the Consumer Electronics Show. You know, the gigantic unveiling of webOS and the Pre.

Still: good to know that Palm has something planned for CES. We hope it's pretty big. We'll be there, stay tuned.

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pre 2

The only way Pre2 gets announced is if that is what they are releasing on Verizon. No way would they announce the next gen webOS device and sell Big Red an obsolete model....

webOS device without a keyboard
one about the size of the droid/ifone just without all the apps

i been a loyal pre owner since 6-6-09 and been drooling over the damn fone since last February...i am gettting annoyed with this fone the only way to make it a decent fone is to load up on homebrews and patches which has my device sloooowwwwww

there is a sprint loop hole about getting outta contract on janurary 10th 2010 im gonna do it and re-sign a contract and get the hero or moment or any other fone that comes out with android on it

the pre could have been great but the wont open up the sdk or wutever to allow the great hombrew developers and developers to make great games which the pre i heard is capable of yea i love yahtzee and connect four when i was a kid not NOW GET IT RIGHT PALM....palm what a great name cause the been jerking me off for a lmost a year now

Since you had drooled over the Pre for so long, you should have been aware that Palm was, for all intents and purposes, an upstart company, and that you were an early adopter of their product. The apps will come and they will improve. You should stick around. Exciting changes coming up.

P.S. I've gone patchless, doctored my Pre, then did a full erase. My Pre is much faster now, but I'm still looking forward to 1.3.5 and beyond.

You realize it's not really much harder to spell out "phone" and it makes you look like less of an illiterate retard...

As long as you're willing to lose your phone number, sounds like a plan!

No way they would slight Sprint in launching the next generation Pre on Verizon when Sprint's amazingly fast 4G coverage is on the verge of being nationwide! I hope that the big news is the announcement of a new 4G/3G Pre on Sprint and Verizon!


Sprint's amazingly fast 4G coverage is on the verge of being nationwide

By "on the verge" do you mean within several years?

No, I mean in 2010. It's already in 27 major markets, including Chicago, covering over 30 million people. It will hit New York, LA, and many more next year!

I guess I'm a little jaded since Sprint turned on EVDO in my area only about two months ago :)

Sometimes I forget that people actually live in these places called "major cities".

Sprint's 4G network has nothing to do with the Pre. The Palm Pre is only a 3G device and does not have a 4G radio in it.

maybe you need to take reading comprehension lessons! Nobody said that the current model of the Pre is 4G capable! I said that with 4G hitting the main stream in 2010 it would stupid for Palm to forgoe a 4G/3G version of the Pre for it's second generation model and only launch on VZ, which only has 3G

Verizon's rollout is supposed to be faster and it's coming out next year. It's also based on LTE.

It has to be a new webOS phone with Toshiba's newly launched 64GB flash memory! That would be sweet.

webOS device without a keyboard
one about the size of the droid/ifone just without all the apps

i been a loyal pre owner since 6-6-09 and been drooling over the damn fone since last February...i am gettting annoyed with this fone the only way to make it a decent fone is to load up on homebrews and patches which has my device sloooowwwwww

there is a sprint loop hole about getting outta contract on janurary 10th 2010 im gonna do it and re-sign a contract and get the hero or moment or any other fone that comes out with android on it

the pre could have been great but the wont open up the sdk or wutever to allow the great hombrew developers and developers to make great games which the pre i heard is capable of yea i love yahtzee and connect four when i was a kid not NOW GET IT RIGHT PALM....palm what a great name cause the been jerking me off for a lmost a year now

Since you had drooled over the Pre for so long, you should have been aware that Palm was, for all intents and purposes, an upstart company, and that you were an early adopter of their product. The apps will come and they will improve. You should stick around. Exciting changes coming up.

P.S. I've gone patchless, doctored my Pre, then did a full erase. My Pre is much faster now, but I'm still looking forward to 1.3.5 and beyond.

I am hoping new SDK and GPU support. A beautiful new device like the nexus one would also be acceptable.

I am absolutely NOT hoping for a new device. I *am* hoping for webOS 2.0 with GPU, Flash, and more APIs for the developers. Heck - I'm hoping all that stuff doesn't have to wait until January...

Why not hope for both? After all, we can hope as much as we want!

Would be a let down going from that big show last year back to a small booth.

Maybe its webos 2.0 on the Pre2 :)

Step by step they are moving in the right direction. They have the software to compete with the iPhone and with Android, now they just need the user base. I really like the way Palm has been shaping up as a company, with new faces, a new image, and having laid completely new groundwork. Lets hope that CES brings some news of the fruits of labor of Palm's new employees.

I am so NOT IMPRESSED with the Droid! I went to check it out at Best Buy Mobile today and it doesn't even have pinch to zoom! Nor does it multitask, it only runs multiple widgets, and only a set amount on three Android 2.0 home screens. The commercials are SOOOO misleading!

And I am so NOT impressed with your knee-jerk uninformed first impressions. If you actually OWNED a Droid you'd know that although the stock browser may not have pinch zoom yet, the alternate Dolphin browswer has it. (No big deal anyway.)

Let me know when your PREcious can instantly translate English voice to Spanish, German, French or Italian voice with appropriate regional accents.

Let me know when your PREcious can even do plain English Voice Dictation to Text entry into any web-form

Let me know when your PREcious gets an SD card to save your half-baked 2 minute homebrewed videos or an app like Qik to instantly upload them to the web.

Let me know when your PREcious gets Google Sky Maps or Celeste.

Let me know when your PREcious gets free Google Navigation with Street View and Street Name directions.

Maybe then I'll be impressed.

well, as long as you're being a prick, i'll inform you that sprint has a built in navigation app with voice thus making your comment about the google nav irrelevant. the other things would be nice to have on the pre, and will most likely be added at some point through updates and app development. even so, none of these advantages out way the pre's multitaking ability and elegance of the webOS. don't get me wrong though, i think the droid is fantastic and would happy with either phone.

Yes I know all about Sprint Navigation. Does it name the streets? Does it give you Street View? Does it have any kind of voice input? No, I didn't think so.

wow you are an annoying dick

"Annoying"? You mean like that annoying lag so many Pre owners are complaining about? "Dick"? You mean like those DICtation for text entry apps that the Iphone and Android have but the Pre totally lacks because the Mojo SDK doesn't have any microphone support?


If the Pre was the phone it should have been by now, you all wouldn't be so worked up over Palm's intentionally vague CES teaser. And you wouldn't be drooling about your imaginary Pre 2.

wow you are an annoying dick

Personally, I find it more annoying when people either downplay or flat-out lie about the features of competing platforms (Android doesn't multitask?) to make WebOS seem superior -- something that isn't supported by sales, specifications, system architecture, or carrier support.

Yes it does name the streets and it talks to you. Who cares about voice control when you already have your destination and route to where you are going?! At least I don't have to turn my phone on it's side to use the keyboard on my non-oversized phone!

i don't know where you get your info but yes, it does name the streets.

Yes it does have street names and says them, you can say the address and it will put in sprint nav. Why are you trolling a Palm site get out of here, and go enjoy paying an ass ton for cell service with your piece of shit droid. Douch bag

It does text to speech and reads out the street names which is really nice compared to most phone-based GPS apps. No street view or voice input yet which would be nice but since Google Street View is...uh...Google, it probably won't show up in Telenav anytime soon. Either way, not sure why it has to be a pissing war. Up until the Droid came out there weren't really any decent Android phones with hard keyboards or modern processors so I got a Pre. Even with the Droid I would still have to switch to Verizon and pay a lot more. I like lots of things about Android but I probably won't get an Android phone until maybe the Nexus One-class phones start coming out. I might do without a hard QWERTY since the screen is so big and high res but I'm not paying for Verizon or ATT and I'm not going back to some slow last-gen processor. For now the Pre is a perfectly capable communications, web, and navigation device.

Android OS is just inferior to WebOS at this point. My main dislike is Having a phone and OS from different companies. Your just asking for trouble. Good luck when they upgrade the OS and your device is no longer supported. Now if Google would release there own SUPER phone, I would definitely think about buying a android phone. I already use Google Voice, address book, and calendar on my Palm. By the way, using Google voice will translate your phone calls, just saying.

Its also worth mentioning to the original annoying dick that the translation just plain sucks. It translates your call into unintelligible nonesense in another language, good job!!!!

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Knee jerk reaction my ass!! The associate even gave me a thorough demo comparing it to a stock Pre, and even he said that he would stick with the Pre and wait until the Pre 2 to get your "precious" voice control that nobody cares about! And who the phuck doesn't have street name turn by turn directions?! And who the phuck really cares about street view when I am driving?!!

Let me know when the Droid gets Flash on it's browser and pinch to zoom and CAN ACTUALLY MULTITASK!!!

P.S. Thank God I don't to use the jaws of life to slide the keyboard open on my Pre!

I could give 2 sh*tz about every "advantage" you mentioned. None of those things impress me at all. OMG WE DONT HAVE VOICE TRANSLATIONS?!?! Cause I obviously send lots of texts and emails in Spanish, German, French, and Italian. LOL

actually there is an app that lets you translate then send it via email or txt, i was trying to get on this french chick at UCincinnati and she was so impressed i sent her a txt in french

Go Bearcats!

Sorry, just don't see many UC references...

I like how they blurred out the location, but Engadget, who had the article online first, didnt censor it at all :P
http://www.engadget.com/2009/12/15/palm-invites-us-to-see-and-hear-whats...

Venetian Hotel
San Polo Ballroom #3403, 3rd Floor

There.. that's the blurred text. :P

Does knowing anything about this room tell us anything at all about what we could possibly see at CES?

You can try to sneak in on that date. ;)

Updated Pre or Pre 2 on Vzw.....then Pixi w/Wifi on Vzw

I also hope they sprinkle some GSM Pixi dust into the air

All I want is a WebOS device on Verizon available by end of Jan 2010

If there is a Pre2, I hope it will be on Sprint.
I hate when companies jump carriers like that, especially when Sprint has been doing better advertising for the Pre than Palm has...

It will either be the new Palm Extreme, a 6" smartphone/tablet convergence device with WiMax available coincident with their announcement at CES via Sprint for $199 on contract

OR

WebOS 1.3.5 with video recording!!!

1.3.5 will be releasing this month from what we hear.

Wow. A webOS tablet is actually pretty compelling, even if only 3G. In for 3!

Unlocked GSM versions... please!

Eh, that might only warrant the conference room at the Toledo Holiday Inn.

I will be there.. hope to see something big!

They are going to show Ares I'll bet. and flash.

I'm sure you're right, Ares will be a big part of this presentation.

good point. Ares will likely play a big role.

annonce the pre 2 coming for sprint and verizon in the summer and pixi for veriozn now

A Known thing will be the additional carriers

an unknown thing. . . my vote is for native apps

Long Live Mytreo.net!!!!!!

I'd like to hear WebOS 2.0 with GPU support and thus much faster on current Pre hardware.

I'd hate to see another device though, not yet. They need to focus on making the software better. I'm getting to a point of frustration with the choppy random speed performance issues.

whatever they do, they can't afford another "announce now, release 6-7 months later." I feel that hurt them quite a bit as they are trailing pretty far behind android 2/iphone right now. 2.0 needs to be almost perfect.

I say they are going to announce a slab device like the iPhone. They already have the Candybar and Slider. That would complete the lineup. That and WebOS 2.0!

maybe a slab with a keyboard... they have stated their angle is keyboards

They need to stick with the keyboard IMO. They don't even have a virtual one on the phone without a patch, so until they release that and work out all of the kinks, they shouldn't have a phone where a buggy/hard to use virtual keyboard is the only option.

Yeah. That would be very nice. Hopefully the hardware will be much more solid then the Pre's.

I hope not. I don't like slab phones. Theres nothing like clipping a tablet PC on your belt and doing business. I don't like large phones. Keep it small.

my friend who works for palm said they're going to announce GPU support

When does it launch? January?

First half of 2010? lol

Going beyond possible falsehood, it would make sense that games have to be "seen and heard".

All this talk about the pre2 - how about provide me with the features we are all missing. It has been over 6 months still no document editng, video recording, flash support, and some of the other things we were told would happen before the years end. Come on Palm - let's get going. Android starts to look more compelling everyday with the changes and options they are offering with their phones. I would prefer the WebOS, but seriously let's get some development going here.

From the info on another site, looks like that room could seat up to 1600 people theatre style, pretty big! http://www.palazzolasvegas.com/MIMC/L3.html Click on the San Polo room for details!

NICE, the bigger the room the bigger the presentation right?

I want fireworks!

MEGATON!!

honestly, all I need is GPU drivers working to fix the random stuttering and a quality Flash implementation to be happy. More services available to SDK programmers would help, too.

I don't think that they need a new device since they already have a pretty damn good device now that has yet to be fully utilized 100%.

Gotta say, this is pretty exciting!

There would be no need for a Pre2 anytime soon if they enable the GPU on the current Pre. A third device, yes maybe, but not a Pre2. We have pretty darn good hardware specs as of now, Palm just needs to put it to good use. Hopefully by WebOS 2.0 they'll flip the switch on the GPU, throw in some API's and a couple of new Bluetooth Profiles.

The hardware in the pre is great, but the build quality is well...crappy. I love how the pre feels, but the slider mech is sloppy, the power button has all sorts of problems, etc.

I would love to just see a Pre revision, where they basically cleaned up the build.

Agreed. I was referring to the performance specs. Build quality certainly needs to be taken up a few notches. Are you listening Palm? ;-)

The CES website shows palm at a few booths. May not be concrete info in the link though.

http://myces.bdmetrics.com/CDT-6657998/Palm-Inc-/Details.aspx

if you look on the CES web site, and go to exhibits/facility details/floor plans. Type in palm in the exhibitor search, and you will find 2 rather large booths for palm. Its not proof of something big, but its interesting.

Oh-please-oh-please-oh-please, let it be either a new, top-end device, or an updated Pre with a sturdier case!

I would expect a big update for WebOS. There is still quite a few items in the pipeline. This combined with the App Catalog coming out of beta together with the presentation of some 'serious' apps like DocsToGo and other partners.
I don't expect any new devices, Pixi just landed... I think an update for the Pre to be announced in a couple of months and to be launched in June with sturdier build quality and more storage (like 16 or 32GB) but nothing spectacular (same as iPhone updates usually are...).

what ever they announce, they must called it webos 2.0, it has a good sound to it, as if it's not in infancy anymore. It's interesting to note jan. 7 is they day their exclusivity with sprint ends.

there is also the business oriented treo pro that hopefully will some be replace by a business oriented webos device.

Wow, that year went by pretty quick. Even thou the 1st 6 months was long waiting for the Pre to launch.

It's almost the end of the year! Where's video recording? I thought a camcorder was coming by year's end? Sorry, Palm, but I'm not waiting until June.

They might surprise everyone and come out with a PDA or tablet running WebOS

In the gadget world, alot of people are wishing for the apple tablet. It would be nice to see WebOS on a palm tablet or netbook. Foleo?

Foleo 2.xx makes a return! I remember Ed Colligan, when he canceled the Foleo, say that they would bring it back after they had their act together. And Apple's rumored to launch a tablet...Palm might launch their own tablet right before Apple.

WebOS Foleo! With its own Touchpad(tm), 8-hour battery life, capacitive touchscreen, swivel screen for tablet option, and gpu. :)

Guys, Khronos today released the WebGL draft spec

http://arstechnica.com/open-source/news/2009/12/webgl-draft-published-kh...

I think there's a good chance we'll see beta WebGL working on pre-like hardware at CES.

sweeeeeeeet

palm, a robust set off pim AND office apps would be nice.

1. availability of pre and pixi on V.
2. WebOS 1.3.5, or 2.0, with enhanced access of GPU for apps. supper fast speed.

You guys are all ignoring the "hear" part of the tease.
I'm guessing Slingplayer is finally ready for the PRE with video and audio streaming.

I think we will see full integration of all WebOs function by next summer, the a Pre2 by the end of the year.

Sideways slider please...

I just realized how far away january 7th is...

Ain't it great? Christmas then a week or so later Christmas again

webOS on desktop

Oh yes a tablet computer along the lines of the Joojoo (www.thejoojoo.com formerly CrunchPad). Please, please pretty please. I could use it evenings and weekend for pleasure then leave it hung on the wall calendar open so the wall so the family know how to track me down when I'm out a clients.

how about an all touch screen webos device?

That's what I'm hoping for. I can do with out the physical keyboard. WebOS and Palm is all I care about. Multitasking makes life so much easier.

Binary apps.

I believe Palm will integrate the GPU function that will really make the Pre a lot faster and with some really cool games like what the Iphone has. I guest we have to be patient and find out. But like I tell everybody, Palm is a startup company and is really doing a fantastic job with staying close with the big boys. Just wait and be patient because the best is yet to come from Palm.

If Your comfidence is lost in webos and the pre, Just Wikapedia Jon Rubinstein the man behind getting all this done. He's the right guy. He the one to bring us the original Ipod. I lost hope in just how slow the pre switches from phone to call history.and not displaying the right # of phone messages. simple stuff. Forget the rest of the issues.
Anyways I have new hope after reading his Bio.