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by Derek Kessler Thu, 15 Mar 2012 10:14 pm EDT

Palm veteran Fred Patton takes the reins of webOS Developer Relations

Nearly five months ago HP VP of webOS Developer Relations Richard Kerris vacated his post for a new job at Nokia, just eight months after he was trotted out before the world at Think Beyond. Granted, a lot went down in those eight months at HP, so we can't blame him for looking to the greener pastures of Nokia's Sunnyvale office. But it's been nearly half a year since Kerris left, with nobody stepping in to fill the void. Until now - today the HP webOS Developer Center made the stealth announcement of Palm veteran Fred Patton as the new head of Developer Relations.

Patton came to Palm in early 2010, tasked with running the developer website - yes, we're now to the point where two years qualifies one as a veteran at webOS. With all of the departures and layoffs that have hit the Developer Relations team in the past few months, two years later he's now "managing day-to-day operations" of the department, as he put it in the "about me" blog post that went up this evening.

An impressive resume is part of what Patton brings to the table here, having developed command and control software for Air Force and NASA satellites and been the Director of Engineering and Quality at Innovative Robotics (where he wrote user and developer documentation and optimized customer setups - good skills for leading a software developer relations team).

So congratulations on the new gig, Fred, and good luck. We'll be watching. And waiting (save us some cake).

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This might actually be good. Because all I have is hope for webOS. Nothing is really concrete.

...and with an article that starts with this:

"I chat with myself. Meet Fred Patton"

It's very, very hard to swallow that. Introduce yourself speaking in third person? Sure they didn't have another way to put that together? Because Patton can play an important role, or will he be just "developer.palm.com" webmaster?

Or perhaps he has a sense of humor?

Perhaps OP prefers someone with a tie and shining references like CEO of a global enterprise software company.

At least hold off your indignation until you take the time to read his developer blog posts since March 2010.

http://developer.palm.com/blog/author/fred/page/6/

@jcmarcos

"It's very, very hard to swallow that. Introduce yourself speaking in third person? "

Jimmy doens't like crappy apps. Crappy apps make Jimmy cry.

@jcmarcos

"It's very, very hard to swallow that. Introduce yourself speaking in third person? "

Jimmy doens't like crappy apps. Crappy apps make Jimmy cry.

Now hopefully , Open webOS will have a healthy amount of apps .

How are you going to convince anyone but the hobby developer to develop for webOS? Seems like a lost cause. Palm couldn't get developers when they were making devices. How are they going to get them when pulled the plug on hardware.

Really, this is THE question to answer.
I hope Fred is really creative and finds a way to make it happen.

You don't convince them to develop for webOS, you convince them to develop using Enyo, a framework that's already been deployed to many platforms and which has native support in webOS.

question: isn't the enyo framework just the sliding panes? what makes it so special (other than it is cross platform)?

I have been wondering the same thing. Just some laggy sliding panels with apps that lack in content. What is so special about them because I don't get it.

Posted by jakko on Fri, 16 Mar 2012 12:27 am EDT
I have been wondering the same thing. Just some laggy sliding panels with apps that lack in content. What is so special about them because I don't get it.

>>>Who is to say they would be ‘laggy’ sliding panels on other platforms, or even in the Chrome browser (not to mention, I disagree with you on this with regard to the TouchPad)? From what I continue to learn about EnyoJS, the basics are pretty simple to execute. It is a powerful framework, but still evolving. I’m not saying it’s the best, but that comment shows you’ve done very little investigation of this topic on your own.

I have repeatedly noted my active use of iOS. For many (not all) of the Enyo versions of the apps that I use, I much prefer those to the iOS versions. Likewise I find the same is true vs. the ICS versions. Wordpress, Khan Academy, email, Glimpse, TED, and quite a few others come to mind. They are cleaner & in many cases much more user friendly with far fewer taps. Wordpress with very quick webOS app switching & access to multiple open emails is an incredibly better experience on actual webOS devices, than when I’m stuck at work with only the iOS version.

> what makes it so special?

There are many, many HTML app frameworks. What makes ours stand above the rest? Easy: It's the only one in the world that has a mobile platform tu run on. Oh, wait...

Seems like the plan is to popularize enyo which can create apps on all moble oses and pc browsers. Then developers can release a webos version without much time and effort. We're seeing webos developers release ios and blackberry and android apps right now.That's smart since going head-to-head against ios and android led no where. Also it will help break up the mindshare among developers that ios and android have. Not guaranteed to work but its a low cost plan that meg whitman can back with a weakened hp.
A better browser is in the works which is great because that also lessens the impact of webos anemic app selection. If I can access important websites with my browser, then I don't need a native app so much. Examples, I can't use mint.com, ameritrade effectively with tp browser or pre 2 browser.
if these efforts lead somewhere then Hp can potentially release a tablet itself (or dualboot windows and webos) and attract a smartphone manufacturer to release an opensource webos phone. Its a smart plan which hopefully will work.

A better browser doesn't really do anything to mitigate the "need" for apps.

People who use large app ecosystems often get used to an exclusive, yet obscure app that keeps them tethered to that platform. For example, I was reading The Verge's regular "What's In Your Bag" feature, and one of the photographers who had a Macbook, iPad, and iPhone said he wasn't going anywhere until Android had an equivalent of Daijirin, a comprehensive touch Japanese dictionary.

For other people, it's Instagram....or Hipstamatic...or whatever game is coded to take advantage of all of the iOS graphical firepower. But a browser isn't a solution. Android has a couple of great browsers, and will get yet another one with Chrome. But it still lags and will continue to lag iOS in perceived app quality.

"Write once, run anywhere" does help increase developer reach, to be sure, but those aren't the apps that make platforms succeed. And it certainly isn't relevant to a manufacturer.

Posted by jessicatapley on Fri, 16 Mar 2012 9:57 am EDT
A better browser doesn't really do anything to mitigate the "need" for apps.

>>>It doesn’t? I wouldn’t consider any of the mobile browsers top notch, but there are very few enterprise useful tools that are only in mobile ‘app’ form, or ever require an app for the full experience. There may be a few niche services like that, but it’s a very poor argument against working towards a desktop class browser experience. Which will happen with one of the other players, and hopefully webOS someday too (optimism).

This is what I was talking about btw. You aren’t really open for discussion of the issues, your statement is constructed as a matter of fact, and implies there is nothing to discuss, because your opinion has become fact. It’s the way it was written. Please try and understand that.

And this is what I'm talking about. I didn't say that was "fact". It's understood it's my opinion until I say something is a fact. It's a discussion board, not an encyclopedia.

You're clearly not open to me being anything other than "negative", taking your ridiculous prejudices from thread to thread. You clearly don't understand that.

Again...if you want positivity and neutral discussion of the subjects of the front page, PRACTICE WHAT YOU PREACH.

So you're not going to comment on my return that achieving a desktop class mobile browser isn't a compelling reason to not worry about apps? There are a lot of companies that would much rather invest in a cross platform alternative, than there are that want to spend millions or more changing out all of their hardware. This is a good move by HP (EnyoJS).

I never said pushing Enyo isn't a good move. But the companies that want cross-platform are already using Sencha Touch and jQuery frameworks. What's the incentive for them to switch? Generally, companies dont dump development resources unless they suck, and mobile developers hardly think en masse that either of those frameworks are lacking.

I can see that. I think Sencha Touch 2 and jQuery already have quite a few fans for the same purpose, and I hardly think there will be one framework to rule them all, but who knows?

Yep, Sencha Touch and jqTouch have become the de facto standards for the mobile web. Our shop uses Sencha Touch for all clients that want either a pure HTML5 mobile web presence and Sencha Touch + PhoneGap for those that want hybrid (app store/market delivered, html5-based) apps. For those needing the benefits of "native", we use Appcelerator mostly and for very few we go raw native.

We use these tools because we can write a single app that targets multiple platforms. There are some cool little things in Enyo but we've found nothing that warrants a switch from Sencha Touch. We'd surely use it if a client demands it, but clients tend to care more about performance and platform compatibility then they do about the specific technology used to achieve those goals.

so when someone develops an app on Enyo , it's automatically goes to webOS & all the other platforms ?

Linux started as a hobby. Personally I prefer software coming from hobbyists vs. big corporations. People who write for the love of it create better software. Especially when it's shared. Look at Apache vs. IIS. Linux vs. Windows. Zimbra/Roundcube/Sendmail/Postfix vs. Exchange/Outlook. MediaWiki vs. Sharepoint. Compiz vs. .... well, nothing compares there :-)

Clean and elegant vs. bloated and retarded. Don't we want WebOS to remain clean an elegant? If so, hobbyists are the way to go. You know, the people who have to actually USE the crap they write vs. for-profit feature wars.

Linux started as a hobby. Personally I prefer software coming from hobbyists vs. big corporations. People who write for the love of it create better software. Especially when it's shared. Look at Apache vs. IIS. Linux vs. Windows. Zimbra/Roundcube/Sendmail/Postfix vs. Exchange/Outlook. MediaWiki vs. Sharepoint. Compiz vs. .... well, nothing compares there :-)

Clean and elegant vs. bloated and retarded. Don't we want WebOS to remain clean an elegant? If so, hobbyists are the way to go. You know, the people who have to actually USE the crap they write vs. for-profit feature wars.

I'm curious as to how you pitch developers to come onboard a platform with no hardware plans and nonexistent (and dwindling, as Pre and Pixi devices die with no replacement in sight) marketshare.

How are people supposed to buy a new app?

Great... each moment that you have no more argument, change the subject trying to find something do attack webOS, and now repeating the SAME HISTORY again, and again, and again.

Wow! That is so boring...

Forget the hardware! The hardware isfinished, okay, Sinsin? You don't need stay here now...

(..)How are people supposed to buy a new app?(...)

Using the Palm Pré Classic, that still is working...

You don't like the Palms, webOS or something more related. Why still lose your time here?

Best Regards... B)

^^^ couldn't agree more . This "jessica" is ALWAYS trying to find something to attack webOS with. Okay "Jessica" , we get it . You obviously have issues with Palm & webOS , but don't bring the Pre & Pixi devices into it . I am a PROUD owner of a Pixi Plus (which the device I'm typing on now) , & I love this phone no matter how underpowered it is & I'm sure that's how everyone feels about there Pres & Pixis. & this is APPS & DEVELOPERS not HARDWARE . You've already fuled enough arguments on the comments so just be positive towards webOS . . . PLEASE

^^^ couldn't agree more . This "jessica" is ALWAYS trying to find something to attack webOS with. Okay "Jessica" , we get it . You obviously have issues with Palm & webOS , but don't bring the Pre & Pixi devices into it . I am a PROUD owner of a Pixi Plus (which the device I'm typing on now) , & I love this phone no matter how underpowered it is & I'm sure that's how everyone feels about there Pres & Pixis. & this is APPS & DEVELOPERS not HARDWARE . You've already fuled enough arguments on the comments so just be positive towards webOS . . . PLEASE

I'll express myself the way I deem appropriate. Thanks.

Posted by jessicatapley on Thu, 15 Mar 2012 11:48 pm EDT
I'm curious as to how you pitch developers to come onboard a platform with no hardware plans and nonexistent (and dwindling, as Pre and Pixi devices die with no replacement in sight) marketshare.
How are people supposed to buy a new app?

>>>If you’ve paid any attention, apps developed in EnyoJS can very easily be submitted to the Chrome app store. Many did so during the recent hackathon (of which I organized a site specific meetup for). The apps can also be submitted to multiple platforms. There are absolutely other options out there, but it’s not like there’s any compelling reason not to use EnyoJS, even if webOS somehow vanished.

I read that to mean "how do you buy these new apps...for webOS". Personally I thought it was a valid question. If HP is trying to bring in developers (for webOS), it is perfectly valid to ask how they are going to do it without current hardware. Since most webOS hardware is no longer sold, won't developers have to consider the consequences of developing for a group of customers that is no longer growing (and in fact is shrinking)? When we talk to clients about the platforms they would like to support, there is ALWAYS a part of the conversation dedicated to whether it makes sense to invest app development and support costs in those platforms.

For iOS it is pretty much always worth it for the client. Android is worth it in most cases but not always. BBOS (and it's variants) is almost always a no. webOS, Symbian, WP7, etc. are almost never considered by the clients because they simply don't see any value in them.

Specifically about Enyo...
Sure, it's another way to make cross-platform apps, but there are many ways out there and many of them are very mature frameworks. You say there isn't any compelling reason not to use Enyo but that's not true. Development costs money, real money (redundant, I know). While some developers don't mind playing around with new technology (I'm one of those), a lot has to be considered before you simply adopt the new kid on the block. This is especially true if the adoption of said new kid has a direct effect (positive or negative) on meeting your client's deadlines. The thing is, while you say there is no compelling reason NOT to use Enyo, I'm having a hard time finding a compelling reason TO use it. I have not found that it does anything significantly better than the competing HTML5-based cross-platform tools/frameworks (Sencha Touch, for example). It certainly is not in the same class as (and thus we never compare it to) something like Appcelerator in terms of native cross-platform functionality.

My question though (if anyone has read this far) is this. How does an Enyo-based app running on Android (or pick your competing OS) help webOS? Honestly, if a client someday comes to us and demand that we use Enyo for their app (and they are willing to pay the right price considering it's not a regular in our toolbox), we'd probably do it. But if they never ask (or pay) for that app be made available for webOS, how does webOS benefit? Honest question.

Valid points. Yup developers of the other platforms don't need Enyo.
Given the situation with Android being ported on most of the Touchpads I see no demand for the official webOS app store.

The only positive is few developers are still making apps for Touchpad. I believe its the third popular tablet platform, thanks to the fire sale. I am waiting for September time to see if there is any news on OEM thing.

Exactly! Taharka, you understood exactly what I was saying. Most companies - especially small development shops - do constantly change the tools their developers work with. If Sencha Touch is modern, light, reduces work, and works just fine....there's no reason to switch to a different framework.

If Enyo was filling a huge hole that had been missing from cross-platform development, I could see that. But as it stands now, Enyo is like webOS: a nice choice among a bunch of others, except the others already have a lot of momentum and users.

Yes, your comments make sense for app developers that do contract work. A client may not care enough to do a webOS version even if if it is only slightly higher cost than doing the iOS or Android version alone. If the additional cost of writing a webOS version is very low, a smart client may just take a chance on webOS. At least Enyo may be a good option for webOS developers who want to support webOS but also make more income off more popular platforms. In any case, it's back to this: HP has a limited budget to try to keep webOS alive and if they're very lucky and don't make any mistakes and attract the right hardware companies, webOS could have some sort of device in the future. This is a reasonable way to achieve this.

Yes, your comments make sense for app developers that do contract work. A client may not care enough to do a webOS version even if if it is only slightly higher cost than doing the iOS or Android version alone. If the additional cost of writing a webOS version is very low, a smart client may just take a chance on webOS. At least Enyo may be a good option for webOS developers who want to support webOS but also make more income off more popular platforms. In any case, it's back to this: HP has a limited budget to try to keep webOS alive and if they're very lucky and don't make any mistakes and attract the right hardware companies, webOS could have some sort of device in the future. This is a reasonable way to achieve this.

I plan to do more webOS apps because Ares is easy, and Enyo looks easy, and then I have what I want for tools for my phone.

Hobby? Maybe, but my apps are for my medical practice, and they work, and don't crash the phone like a lot of the medical apps on Android. Palmdoc apps are great tools, too.

my point is that some quality apps can make a useful phone, compared to shovelfuls of junk on Android ( which I have one of for big-name apps that are no longer on webOS)

today in clinic after I set and splinted a broken arm, I wanted to show the girl what the bone looked like, with xrays already gone. Couldn't get the fancy Android app to work. Pre3 to the rescue with reliable non-crashing MediPedia!

BBooDoc
- Bishop Scores, EquiSteroidia, EquiAnalgesia

Awesome, now we have someone who has been wtih webOS for a while, someone who knows what the devs want/need, and someone who didn't flake out when the webOS ship hit stormy waters. Glad to know we won't have someone completely inept in charge now.

What's he actually in charge of? From the description of his duties, they have downgraded this role from that of a VP to some nebulous 'head' role run by the webmaster of the website.

How many people are actually *in* this team?

Good question. It's not like he's managing the developer hardware program since there is no hardware.

The other day I was thinking, "what if Meg/HP is secretly making some hardware for webOS?". Wouldn't that be awesome?!?!/

Maybe not necessarily to get general consumers and beat other mobile OS's but more of to show off the new and improved webOS on new hardware. Also to show off the capabilities of Enyo.

HP was planning on moving the webOS tablet engineering to the laptop engineers anyways so they don't need hardware engineers at the Palm offices.

I'm just hoping... That's what webOS has been about since it was announced... hoping... sadly...

Alas, they have no reason to "secretly" do anything regarding webOS. This platform needs every bit of public momentum it can get, so they should be issuing press releases if the company bowling team wins a local tourney.

Maybe you really should apply for a position of webOS marketing manager then; at least you seem to know all the relevant / hip industry buzzwords.

"Momentum" is a buzzword?

Dude, the biggest "story" run on the biggest webOS site in this past few weeks was an ex-employee crying "We coulda been a conteda!"

Before that, the biggest story was maybe being able to run Android apps.

Doesn't that tell you something?

Sure, and ???? webosnation is going to pick the person for presenting the award.

Now start another chain of comments on how this is not important news. How HP/Palm/webOS ...... failed and how iOS is superior.

Have a good day.

Now start another chain of comments on how this is not important news. How HP/Palm/webOS ...... failed and how iOS is superior...in an effort to balance out all of the webOS is vastly superior to everything out there and has never failed at anything except that companies are too inept to manage it correctly and consumers are too brainwashed to buy it rhetoric.

There, fixed it for ya. :-)

Like I said in the other thread, we get called bots and trolls, yet it's always the "upstart defenders" who sink to trolling and name-calling. I'm not following any of those guys around, yet they lie in wait for me to say anything that doesn't praise webOS.

on pain of repeating myself, I think
there are two types of people here:
the niche people, and the mainstream
people. And they don't want the same
things

What about the people that actually want to discuss the articles...which is what this page is for!?

I've discussed Enyo, rival frameworks, and how developers get paid. All GBP has done is attack me and ignore the subject at hand.

Which one of us is supposed to be the troll again?

Which one of us is bringing discussion on this site down again?

Who's the disruptive presence?

(...)Which one of us is supposed to be the troll again?(...)

Hundred messages with you attacking webOS in webOS Nation... and you still ask this?

Háháháháháháháhá...

Best Regards... B)

(...)Which one of us is supposed to be the troll again?(...)

Hundred messages with you attacking webOS in webOS Nation... and you still ask this?

Háháháháháháháhá...

Best Regards... B)

JT, first, I'm not here to flame you. But you need to understand that most of us here aren't blind to the problems webOS is facing & has faced. I have been very critical of HP & Palm in the past & even in the present, and I understand the climb(s) they face to remain & become relevant. But to come on a fan site & comment negative on every post, and never back down from 'my opinion is right', is incredibly inflamatory & the very definition of what you self righteously claim not to be.

It's even more insulting to those of us who use just about every mobile platform under the sun, yet still find webOS to be the most compelling. Who is anyone to tell someone they are wrong for having a particular product preference? Or why is someone out of line to be happy that HP has at least put SOMEONE in charge of developer relations?

Are you evangelizing all of the other options out of the kindness of your heart, in fear that we will all be lost in this world without jumping ship for a number 1 or 2 platform? Most of us are all well aware of those options, and we've had ample time & reason to leave webOS forever. So if that's the goal, you're wasting your breath & you're not telling anyone anything they don't already know.

I have been around here for a long time now, and I've had my share good & bad posts, and I rarely see a reason to respond to anyone like this. I respect a great number of posts & posters that point out the flaws of webOS while maintaining the presence of a constructive opinion here. This is a pretty amazing & resilient community, and there are never a shortage of people to help with anything. That's what makes it a fan 'community'.

Some of what you write is absolutely correct, but, at least in my opinion, most of it's written in an extremely passive agressive manner, which will get people calling 'troll' whether you are or not. When it comes across that way, it doesn't matter the content. Perhaps the authors of such posts don't realize how their comments are interpreted, I'll get to that shortly....

What I want to know is, what do you hope to gain? This is largely a fan site, and those of us who have stuck around this long have heard it all & survived it all. We're here because we enjoy webOS. Whether it's more productive for us, or offers a more realistic development future, offers a cleaner user experience, or maybe someone just prefers a physical keyboard & basic smartphone functions....doesn't really matter, because that's why we're here & that's why we continue to work with & use this platform. Whether this platform ever takes off, or stays a niche forever, what do you hope to gain by repeatedly putting down webOS & people who post positive about it? Do you genuinely have distaste for underdog optimism?

Perhaps if that is understood, people are much more likely to engage in a useful dialogue with you. But until then, perception is reality, and in this case you're judged by the perception of a fan site, not some neutral playground of tech discussion. Have a great weekend. Going to be a great one for people to enjoy for most of the country. Cheers.

And this has ZERO to do with what I have written on this article. You guys carry grudges from post to post, and take everything immediately personal. I'm not "evangelizing" any other platform here. Didn't do it elsewhere. Didn't tell anyone they shouldn't be "happy" about this news. Didn't call anyone out personally AT ALL.

So the question is...what do YOU ALL hope to gain by attacking me? All you do is distract from the author's article and ruin discussion of the tiny bit of happenings in the world of webOS by arguing about who is positive, negative, trolling or whatever. We could be discussing frameworks as me and Taharka have tried to do. We could have a substantive discussion of whether Enyo Widgets make it more aesthetically-pleasing or developer friendly than Sencha Touch templates. We could talk about a number of "positive" things, but you guys wanna follow and harass people.

I truly don't get it why you would come to this site if you have so low an opinion and care so little about what's happening in the world of webOS. You guys have become exactly what you rail against.

Oh, C'mon, sinsin...

(...)I'm not "evangelizing" any other platform here. (...)

No, but is trying! :-))))

Always the same "bla, bla, bla"... always the same stories, always the same arguments... and; now, is trying to use the Taharka arguments because is different of "no hardware, no hardware, no hardware"...

Be honest: you *never* gonna talk something "positive", and is here only to try demotivate everybody, calling to use Apple Products.

Let me leave everything clear:

"-Hey, everybody!
JessicaTapley is an Apple Fan User that comes here only to attack the webOS system."

Best Regards... B)

Always the same gibberish trolling. Never merits more than a sentence or two of confusion.

"Always the same gibberish trolling..." Hmmmm what do you think you're doing ? Always posting something negative about webOS is what you're doing . You post something negative on a site full of devotees of webOS & you're surprised that we are rather aggravated by your comments ? Come on now . We take webOS about as seriously as sports fans take there sports so posting negative things is OBVIOUSLY going to get a negative reaction . And NO we don't attack you because we post (usually) positive things about webOS , but no of course you have to put negative things about webOS . You always post how webOS is a "major failure" & how palm & HP constantly failed . But to us , webOS is one of the best technologies ever conceived so to us , Palm succeeded in creating a wonderful OS.

Number of replies to my positive comment about seeing the benefit of HP pushing this as the preferred framework for PhoneGap and other cross-platform development tools: 0.

You want positivity, try practicing what you preach.

You wrote: "Write once, run anywhere" does help increase developer reach, to be sure, but those aren't the apps that make platforms succeed. And it certainly isn't relevant to a manufacturer."

Is that what you refer to as positive? Where on this page do you mention PhoneGap anywhere? How do you not realize that is not only passive aggressive, but fits the 'Concerned Trolling' definition perfectly. That's when you make the appearance of topic positivity, but then quickly dismiss it. Aka, disingenuous.

I'll go back to supporting my local webOS community by educating community members on how to get the most out of their devices, EnyoJS, and the future with HP. I'm going to guess you don't organize tech meetups to improve webOS & get the developer community excited about the possibilities that do exist in webOS. If we all followed your approach, we'd pretty much just tell everyone to take a hike & stop wasting a ridiculous amount of personal time, energy, & money organizing the events that we do. I practice what I preach. Enough said.

Okay,
I did not attack you, I attacked the rhetoric against webOS.
Now, Let us be clear, webOS failed. Allright. Thats old news. No point talking about it.

Here are few things we can do as webOS enthusiasts. Cheer up when any positive news comes out from HP. If you think its too much of a fan thing to cheer all the time then post something constructive. Don't go back and talk why the platform failed. We all know why it failed. Assume that I (we) are ignorant about other frameworks and tell us how they are different or better.

Irrespective of the irrelevance of the platform (is it?) there are apps still being created for Touchpad. Its a surprise to me that there are people (hobbyists they may be) making apps for this dead platform. Hence the decision to appoint Fred to look after the developers.

I hope you understand that HP is not going to spend any more money than paying the remaining webOS team. So next time when you post a comment think about HP not spending any money. Who knows what is inside Meg's brain, but until September we will not see any movement on webOS being a mobile consumer platform.

Trying to talk about the subject of the article. Guess what trolls here want to talk about instead?

Exactly ,
I guess "company bowling team wins a local tourney" will fall under the subject of this article, yeah right.

Like I said. You are laser-focused on the negative. You are EXACTLY what you accuse me of being.

That looks good. Thanks a bunch.
And BTW, you know that HP is not going to do anything but pay the salaries of the remaining webOS team. So the best you do is to hope that webOS gets somewhere.

You are most welcome.

Posted by jessicatapley on Fri, 16 Mar 2012 9:18 am EDT
Alas, they have no reason to "secretly" do anything regarding webOS. This platform needs every bit of public momentum it can get, so they should be issuing press releases if the company bowling team wins a local tourney.

>>>So how has early communication of their plans worked out for them in the past 3 years? I don’t believe they are working on hardware, but if they were, why would they tell anyone? So they can release another unfinished product because of investor outcry, mismanaged timelines, and unclear expectations. Under promise & over deliver with webOS from here on out. IMO.

You realize that they publicly released a detailed timetable and release date for open webOS for roughly 6 months later, right?

They're not the type of company that just magically shows up with products.

Woo! We gotz a new devrel 'boss'! *high fives developers*

Whoosh! [the sound of a lone hand sailing through the air]

.....I think this one is going to stick! I really do wish better documentations, tutorials and supporting resource (hand holding if you may) to make things a lot more clear.

Peterdev