Pimlical update brings Google Calendar sync to Windows 20
by Derek Kessler
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 6:14 pm EDT
Fri, 10 Sep 2010 6:14 pm EDT
The name Pimlico has long been associated with Palm OS software, and while they haven’t yet released a webOS app, they have released an update to their Pimlical calendar sync for Windows. The update brings Google Calendar sync to Windows, which you can then sync to your webOS phone. Pimlical duplicates a lot of the functionality and interface of the Palm OS classic DateBk (no coincidence, also a Pimlico product). As an added bonus, if you haven’t yet figured out a way, Pimlical gives users an upgrade path from the old school Palm Desktop calendar databases to modern ICS files which you can then get into Google Calendar.
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Oh snap!
Trying to see why anyone should care since google calendars already syncs with WebOS... And Outlook... and pretty much everything else.
This awesome. More options for webos.
I'm wondering the same, I sync Google to the Pre already, would would I want to do it in a manner that is a pain...?
Can you remind me how I get those great icons to work within Outlook :)
Actually for me it's a non starter as I now use Outlook for my 4 PIM's, but if I did not use Outlook then it would be a no brainer, I'd buy it.
There are a lot of people that don't use Outlook on their PC. This application gives them a PC based calendar program for the times they don't have a data connection to Google for their PC or laptop.
So,
My wife can use this to translate her Palm Desktop (Centro that is wearing out) to Google, and then use this as a new Palm Desktop if she gets a Pixi?
Going to the website but would appreciate someone who owns this application to comment.
Hi all,
I emailed the creator of dateBK6 and asked when he would come out with a version for webOS. This was just before HP decided to buy Palm. He told me he thought Palm would close and the name and patents MIGHT be sold for some "pocket change" for the good will use of the patents....$1.2 is some pocket change. I would love to have pockets like those!, LOL
I insisted that if Palm was purchased it would be mostly for webOS and was worth a great deal of $! In this case, I am very happy to be right!
After the buyout was announced, I wrote him again and this time I didn't get an answer.
However, This does show, that he got the message.
(I AM SO SORRY TO SHOUT, BUT THERE ISN'T A BOLD TEXT OPTION FOR ARTICLE QUOTES), LET'S PLEASE EMAILING PIMLICO AND KEEP UP THE PRESSURE FOR DIRECT USAGE OF webOS SUPPORT.
His email address is as follows: pimlicosupport@bigfoot.com
Thanks as always, Jay
I'd be surprised if pimlico made a direct native webOS calendar application. CSD is quite vocal on his disappointment for not being made aware of or consulted on webOS. I believe he said he's through with Palm. I don't know which pisses him off more, not being consulted of or not getting royalties (fyi Treo's native calendar is Datebook 3 Lite). I don't know if Palm approached him before when they start designing webOS. Palm did it to Marc Blanc on his ChatterEmail app & Marc worked for a while at Palm and laid the basic design of webOS email app.
If I were you I'd stop pestering him for webOS support & instead buy his pimlical if you believe the app is worth your money.
Totally agree with what you say. I didn't know about the background slight, but I was a long term DateBK user and miss it on the Pre.
But, at the end of the day, they do it to raise money for their charity, so I can understand them holding back while sales were relatively low. So if the HP input 'makes' webOS, then we might see a change of heart hopefully.
I was a long-term Agendus user, but its maker is nowadays too entangled with Steve Jobs to care about Palm. Getting bought by Splashdata (which are now whining that iOS kills creativity) did not help much either. So will someone (even someone with a sense of aesthetics like Pimlical...) please offer me a replacement for the crappy calendar app that shares data with it?
I've been using PIMLICAL from the day it came out, and while its ok, its still a pain in the backside to have to maintain two calendars at once. That being said it gave me back years of data in one place coupled with my Pre stuff.
PIMLICO mentioned to me at one point that DateBk was "too robust" a program to run on the WebOS. I don't know what that quite means.
They further mentioned that it was their opinion that PALM was dying, and that the financial output was not worth the effort for a "niche" OS. Lets hope the HP acquisition of PALM turns that around.
I wasn't aware of the non payment of royalties to PIMLICO by Palm, but in my opinion it was PIMLICO that made PALM the best PDA company out there in the days before "Smartphones". Lets not forget that PDA's, and PIM, was the driving force towards having a converged device.
Agree that the Palm PIM was and is still the best and the one reason I still chug along with a Centro.
For clarification, the loss of royalties refer to this:
When Palm stopped making Treos then Palm do not need to pay any royalties.
That is the gist of it.
That interface is a mess. I dont see what this product does, Google integrates really well with every desktop. As far as for when people dont hae a data connection on their desktops - when is that? After an electro-magnetic pulse?
I am sure there will be further development, but I installed the desktop client and it stalled (froze during use, had to hard stop the application) after installation on my 64bit Windows 7 machine. Not ready for prime time.
Does this happen to synch contacts w/outlook? I've been using soocial to synch outlook contacts to google & then webOS takes care of the rest. That method may be outdated if Google now offers a contact synch w/outlook. But it wasn't available this time last year. Does anyone know if they now ofer this?
Derek, anybody, care to explain exactly what this is and why we should care about it? Just looks like a client for Google Calendar with a terrible interface. Why would anyone use this when GC already syncs very well with WebOS and there are dozens of GC clients for windows, including the free Sunbird/Lightning which have excellent GC support and a great UI?
I got same feedback from pimlical datebk 6 as above emails. I cannot tollerate in my service business the bugs that were in Pre calendar for the first 6 months, the slow speed for the first 9 months...I still cannot get along w/out the good weekly view w/icons that datebk 6 has. Sooo, I currently am forced to run Datebk 6 under Pre Classic emulator. I then sink it up to Google (so it will come down into my wife's native basic Pre calendar). I use lifetime subscription to goosync to sync classic datebk 6 up to Google. I also miss some of the fancy features of datebk 6 in Pre calendar...like how I could control color coding per event & filter list view in agenda style by individually assigned icons! I own Pimlical desktop...it is not what I want in my elaborate service business. I also miss in Pre native calendar how appointments cannot be linked directly to the customer's record in the contact app. I also really miss the instant pop-up one-line summary you got in datebk 6 when you touched an appointment in weekly view. Let's face it, the native PIM apps on the Pre stink compared to the first palm I had over 12 years ago (memos on Pre are trash w/out evernote or Chapura, Contacts cannot be assigned to a category or google group or sorted by group...in fact, only name field can even be searched in Pre Contact app!)
Echo charlestwestco sentiments - and at the risk of sounding sentimental, I've got 12+ years of schedule information / business contact journalling and other diarised information that I refer to regularly (PalmIIIx, Sony Clie and now Tungsten T3 which incidentally all still work unlike mobiles I've had over the period). I still run my TungstenT3 for diary/contact management and am evaluating webos via the pre emulator in competition with android and iphone offerings for my next device.
I've registered Pimlical to preserve that data in the highly usable form I've recorded it, because the feature set is incredible and because I'd like to see it developed further for mobile platforms (ideally including webos). The offered screenshots are scary but just about everything appears to be customizable, right down to form window sizing: that's commitment right there...
I don't run a wildlife shelter but my calendar is a little more complicated than 'coffee with x at y' - multiple work calendars, home calendar each with categories (palmspeak - sub-calendars if you like). Combining all on google it turns to mush, there's just not the tools yet to discriminate what's there and present it in a usable format. I've looked at Sunbird eetc but there only as good as the functionality available in Google's calendar: not anywhere near what I'm after yet and the labs tools haven't been updated in months. Icons are from Datebk v1 and the 12 month calendar view appears to be just that - a static calendar with no events listed... what the(!?)
I sincerely hope calendar on Pre evolves - its not a complete dud and stock ios and android offerings aren't much different, but these limitations are frustrating and a deal-breaker for me at this stage. Appreciate a couple of things - that Palm is open enough to let people tinker under the hood to improve functionality, and that I could run Datebk6 pre via classic after the T3 dies (but 1. thats 320x320 vice current fullscreen 480x320, and 2. HP would have to release Pre and provide access to app catalog in Australia).
I'm watching development of Pocket Informant for ios and that looks like the pick of them so far without being perfect nor are saisuku etc: feature set for PI 1.51 read like earlier versions of datebk. E.g., customisable hires color icons assigned to categories or individual entries, filter options by word/icon or category(=calendars under google), templates for often used calendar entries. Really does look like they're re working through Datebk's change log, two steps forward then one step backward as apple gets in the way of attempts to achieve better cross app integration.
Saved customised views are really useful: I'm a pilot and set up 'flying' as a saved view in Datebk6. I'm taken straight to an agenda list view with a background color title of the block of flying (shows first repeat event only for what is a daily repeating event), then lists each flying event per line - with different selectable font sizes I can get anywhere up to a couple of dozen events per page and I can set and save a custom date range for it. I get 4-5 on pre agenda for calendar and viewing google calendar on pre is no better (mobile or normal web views). I can view same subset of calendar data by 1,2,3,5,7,14 days or 1,4/6/12 months. Two more clicks and I'm back to my normal calendar view or any other saved view.
Sentimental yes, productivity feature deprived and looking for options - definitely.