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Pre 2 on Verizon misses Black Friday; to be joined by Pixi 2? 113

by Dieter Bohn Mon, 29 Nov 2010 4:18 pm EST

 

Count us in with our pals at @everythingpre who wondered what happened to keep the Verizon Palm Pre 2 from landing on store shelves in time for Black Friday or Cyber Monday. Seems to us that even though Palm only promised "coming months" for the device, it would have been significantly better if they had managed to get the device released in time for the biggest shopping weekend of the entire year. Still, if you're down with AT&T, you can go on and get the unlocked Pre 2 right now.

We don't have a good bead on when exactly Palm and Verizon will be able to get their ducks in a row to launch the CDMA version of the Pre 2, but we do have another reason to keep the Pixi 2 on our radar. There hasn't been much grist for the rumor mill since we first saw the Broadway (the presumed codename for the Pixi 2) pop up in early October except the codename drop from webOS 2.0 that also included the Broadway (amongst other code names like windsor, mantaray, and stingray). However, we have recently heard that a third party is promising that both the Pre 2 and the Pixi 2 should be landing on Verizon "soon."

25 days until Christmas. Let's hope it doesn't become another arbitrary, it's-just-us-but-really-it-ought-to-happen "deadline" that gets missed.

Thanks anonymous!

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I have yet to figure out why anyone would get caught up in a new contract for a Pre2/Pixi2 and be stuck with that. I have no intentions of buying this phone. I'll wait for HP's new phone at CES.

Thank you! I thought I was the only one with the same thoughts! What are your plans if no super phone is announced at CES? My worry is that at CES they will only talk about the pre2, webos 2.0 and tablets. :(

agreed. my thought is either they announce something with the pixi form-factor at CES for Sprint, or I am getting another phone. I love my pixi, but my loyalty to an OS only lasts so long.

I'm loyal to the OS. Just not loyal to the pre or pixi hardware and form factor.
Maybe I'll get an Evo and attempt to put WebOS on it, but I'll have to have a work around for gestures and touch stone.

agreed, although I'm not concerned with what happens at CES.

I'm on Sprint. Screw all of you. Robots here I come.

LET ME GIVE YOU AN ANALOGY.

As a doctor this is a classic case of the family not letting their love one die, and keeping them alive on machines. As a medical professional we know that the best thing for this patient is to pull the plug, but the family just drags it on and on and the misery never stops.

Palm is dead. Web OS is barely holding on. Unless HP releases these phones immediately after their debute at CES it is over. There is no more reasons to NOT pull the plug.

Big fan here don't get me wrong, but it is almost painful to watch Palm die and Web OS slowly fade away.

We'll see I guess.

As a doctor (if you are one), that's quite a callus attitude. Also, your statement that "Palm is dead" directly contradicts your next statement, "unless HP releases these phones... at CES it is over." That's akin to saying, "Grandma is dead, unless she's still allive in January!" Remind me not to accept a diagnosis from you!

Or it is akin to saying "Grandma is brain dead. Unless a miracle happens it's over." It all depends on your perspective I guess. In either case, I think you post proved his point. By the way, reality is callus sometimes. That does not make it any less real.

If Palm is dead, then why are you guys coming over to P|C to keep looking at the dead body and aggravating the mourners.
You guys are one or more of the following:

*Twisted
*Bitter
*Fanboy of another OS
*Watch too many zombie movies
*Have no real family or friends

Or people read a wide range of things and post their opinions on some things some times.

Nah, that's not enough of an insult to posters. Not edgy enough. Let's go with your reasons.

+1

Because other people might like it.

it's would be nice to see something by xmas (ces is last straw make or break time to step game up)

Who cares. Another POS phone on a POS carrier.

alas, another POS comment from a POS

I don't care.

you don't are enough to take the time to register & post a comment on a site aimed solely at people who do care? That makes sense..

actually this is Pre central. Not Pre 2 central. And most registered for the site around buying a Pre. Not a Pre 2.

*sigh* Really dude? Serious?

Yes really. Because it's true. And most people didn't come to the site for the Pre 2. They came before it was even announced. They came because of the Pre. So to accuse someone of being hypocritical or whatever for signing up for a sight about the pre 2 is lame. Most people didn't sign up for that reason at all.

when was an opinion site ever directed solely at one end of the fan base?

If the complainers wanna bitch, let em bitch. They aren't insulting the blind faithul personally. They are expressing their opinion. It's a first amendment thing. :-)

which goes both ways I guess, but then it's the blind faithful that look like assholes for berating the whiners.

What was that? Pee oh es? What? Sorry man, you're breaking up. Call me when you're in an area of decent service.

Now that rumor I dont believe.. There aint no Pixi 2 and quite frankly the more and more I see HP/Palm & Verizon stall on the release of the Pre 2.. The more and more I start to believe that whatever is presented @ CES will not be coming out anytime soon either which in my opinion sucks balls!!

Rumor mongering FTL

ROFL.

Gotta keep finding a new carrot to dangle in front of the Pre faithful.

+1

I'm Plussing my Sprint Pre. Can't hold out and my Sprint Pre is dying. Not switching carriers though, so, I'm betting on CES.

I do not care, I am waiting on WP7 to hit Sprint, this is going to be my next phone unless HP launches something first.

it's would be nice to see something by xmas (ces is last straw make or break time to step game up)

another rumor? holy moly...........jus save it until we get something official...just to think about it. if we do here anything it wont be out until "coming months" anyways.. so its not looking good either way.

Verizon supposedly has a 24 days of deals thing going on, where you like them on Facebook or tweet about them and they "unwrap" a deal for you. I think today's deal is some blackberry thing, but maybe one of those deals might be a Pre 2 one of these days? Maybe...

you should send it in to this website as a tip so they can post up something for tuesday

or make up a rumored released date. then when the rumored release date is missed, make up another rumor about another release date.

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

I want one, here and now!
Much better form factor than the Pre, and I don't want a slate, either.

I know this isn't the best place to post this but I would be curious for a poll of how many people will switch to another phone if no new device is announced at CES.

I feel like this has become slow torture for people waiting on the Pre2...

You can get a Pre 2 on AT&T? Since when? I was at an AT&T store yesterday evening (to check out Windows phone for the first time) and Palm Pre 2 was nonexistent.

Dieter meant that if you buy an unlocked developer's Pre 2, you can activate it on AT&T and it'll work just fine.

Honestly i have zero interest in this phone and i'm not on AT&T so it's not really something i'm upset about but I went to the AT&T page and didn't see any way to buy a Pre 2. Apparently this is a site for developers not consumers. honestly i'm really tired of hearing developer centric stories. I know they'll post and can post what they want but, like i'm a consumer, i couldn't care in the slightest about stuff for computer programmers. developer day? yawn. dev kit? yawn. Someone made a distinction once between something you could do with an sdk app vs a pdk app. Like i or most phone buyers have any idea what the difference is or could tell when i look at the app in the catalog. they can post what they want obviously but it's not like consumers have access these phones. They shouldn't act like it's main stream in my opinion. no offense intended to the author. I'm just a consumer.

Anyone can buy the developer phone. It's not an exclusive thing.

I wouldn't say this is a developer site at all. Aside from 2 weeks ago when DEVELOPER DAY was happening NYC, they don't really post a lot of Dev-Only stuff here. It's usually new apps, tips and tricks to make using webOS easier for ALL users, and the occasional rumor.

i don't know. i hear a lot of talk of developer stuff and in the podcast too. Regardless, not saying your wrong, but it's hardly a phone that's been released to the public. If it is out unlocked it's not like many people are gonna buy that here in the states. i mean $450 for that phone is a tough sell in this country where phones are subsidized. But good luck to em.

Well, they had an Angry Birds story today. That should give you your non-dev fix, right?

No. I don't have any interest in games. I'm not looking for a fix. i'm looking for not emphasis on developer stuff i don't care about.

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

I would blame all of this on Verizon. As we know, the Pre 2 is ready in general but the Verizon version of it apparently is not. It's either a question of the business decision to focus on other devices for the holiday season or that Verizon isn't finished tinkering with the Pre 2 for their network. I wouldn't blame HP Palm too much on this. I don't believe (IMHO) that they are to blame.

I'm also waiting for CES since my Pre Plus is under contract until September of 2011.

When it's phones on a carrier, always blame the carrier. HP/Palm already released the Pre2 GSM-Unlocked for purchase on their online store, so we know a GSM phone works. Verizon, on the other hand, uses CDMA, and has to tinker with the phone (see the Pre Plus GPS).

My guess is Verizon is trying to figure out how to mess up the GPS. :-)

so the rumor I was following was that it was going to drop with rebate along with some Android phones.. did those phones drop? If not, then this story is definitely no big deal.

If they did, then ! don't freak out.
Clearly WebOS 2 is not ready, so maybe Verizon is delaying it, which, yes, would mean a major delay because if that's the reason, that means they may have not even been boxed. Somebody (or somebodies) seem to be doing something wrong, but I don't follow the release schedules/announcements/etc of most other phones, so.. hard to say.
Well! I guess with the exception of the Nexus One. I was waiting to restart my cell phone life until the Nexus One dropped on Verizon. I decided to start with the Pre+ w/o contract and wait it out, turns out this was the best move, for several reasons, but for this disc because the Nexus1 never dropped. Was that google/HTC's fault? Verizon's? (Assumingly they would have built a CDMA version, as the orig was GSM on TMo) Who knows.. blame can go everywhere, it can go nowhere.
We're all impatient, for sure. I don't plan to buy a Pre2 right away, but I am planning on waiting some months after the Pre2's release to figure out my next step..
Really I just wish for Skype and Flash on my Pre+, so unfortunately looks like I'm chompin-at-the-bit for WebOS2 like the rest. silly impatient me. Eh!

what do you mean "clearly webOS 2 isn't ready?" tell that to the French who have been able to buy Pre2's for a month. Tell that to the devs that have them.

the problem isn't webOS 2.0, it's the carriers gumming stuff up.

(as far as the pre2 is concerned, a phone I don't really care about...)

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

why wouldn't someone want a pixi 2. The reason people are mad about the pre2 is because we chose the pre because it was the higher end of the webOS phones. If you like the form factor you buy a pre2. Same with the pixi, if someone chose the pixi over the pre it's because they wanted that form factor and if you want that over the pre2 why would you want something completely different in what hp will be releasing some time. As I said before some want the new goodies hp is going to release and that's who is upset with the pre2. Anyone who loves their pixi will pick up a pixi 2, in my eyes it's a completely different situation than the pre2. My wife will not get a pre2 on verizon cause she loves her pixi. If they had a pixi2 with a better processor and camera she would scoop it up in a second.

Six duplicate posts, a NEW RECORD!!! Congrats jwinn35, you win the next webOS device to release in the U.S.!!! But, you have to wait "over the next year" to claim it...

What happened?

I'll tell you what happened- PALM HAPPENED!

Missing black Friday and cyber Monday when your product is supposed to launch int he Fall is a HUGE mistake. Whoever is responsible for the US launch should be fired, immediately.

I love my Pre but every day it seems like it's more and more certain that I'll be reading about webOS in a business school case study textbook as another "otherwise good product that failed," like betamax.

Palm messes up with every move. 1 month is a long time with smartphones. 6 months is eternity. Release a new device already.

What's with all the spam?

My upgraded Pre minus OC to 1ghz is starting to lag and stall heavily... the Epic is starting to look mighty good.... Beer goggles are becoming stronger....ewwrrr...errrww.. must resist...

palm's gonna be bankrupt before you can say palm sucks balls now.

Palm was sold to HP, and HP is not going bankrupt anytime soon...

When this all pans out, perhaps we'll see why HPalm decided to do what they did. But I have to say, come January at CES, if they don't show some good news (and by that I hope they don't tell the public who has been waiting now for quite some time for an uber-phone, to wait "a few more months" until summer for the release), then HPalm is going to be in serious trouble. Unfortunately history would have repeated itself far too many times with this company and at that point they could be read like a book. They will lose far too much.

I personally hope they don't, but I'll admit, this is my absolute last hope for HPalm. I'm growing tired as many others are. There won't be any more waiting for anything. I'll definitely be leaving for the iphone on Verizon or an Android device.

I mean seriously, things are so bad here, the topics for this site are really falling to a new low. No offense to the writers on this site, as HPalm's lack of anything is only hurting them more. For everything precentral and it's contributers have been doing to keep Palm in the news, HPalm seems to show less interest to the general public than others who are interested. If they're not going to do anything and "just wait", well, good luck. I hope it works out.

don't hold your breath. my source @ VZ says "not until 1/1/11 at the earliest"

sad

I'm starting not to believe. Holding out until CES at this point since it doesn't look like Sprint will be getting any new webOS phones until after CES, if that. If Sprint doesn't get anything then I will have a decision to make that I wish I didn't have to make.

I find the graphic quite funny. I want to believe in Santa Claus too, but I doubt he will deliver new webOS devices for Christmas.

Im so tired of waiting on palm. This is why i left and went to Blackberry after the pos Treo 755P. Now i'm leaving again for the droid 2 global 1.2 GHz. PAAAAALLLLMMMMMM

I thought HP buying Palm was going to be good news for all, but it seems like HP bought the marketing incompetence of Palm too. My list of sucky moves: 1) release a spec bump pre2 2) annoying vagueness with timelines. If I hear "in the coming months" one more time I'm gonna s*%t. 3) releasing any new hardware exclusively on Verizon. Verizon has shown that they do not care about webos... if it ain't droid or iphone (rumor of course), they don't care. 4) not having a palm pad before the android tablets.

I bought a pre minus a couple months ago hoping that HP was going to throw some serious marketing muscle and $$ on webos, but I have to admit, I am scared. Webos is on life support and 2 aspirin aren't going to help.

I hear ya; I talked my girlfriend into a Pre on Sprint in September. Had a bunch of issues with the phone, so I Doctored it last night. I was in the same boat, hoping HP would have something great to show, whether better marketing, webOS 2.0, or a timeline on new hardware. Sadly, a couple of months later, she's talking about waiting for her device to fail so she can take it in and exchange it for whatever Sprint gives her under warranty. It would be nice to hear something other than "the coming months" or "we have a roadmap" from HP. I've had the same feeling for a while, that come the middle of next year I'll be holding an obsolete phone with no ecosystem, looking to trade down to an Android phone. I think webOS is already dead, 2.0 and new hardware in 2011 will have to be approached as a Grand Re-Opening, not just a menu change.

palm's gonna be bankrupt before you can say palm sucks balls now.

i really dont see how verizon would market the pre2, CES is a month away everyone is waiting for new devices, i have a feeling Verizon would opt for the Pixi 2 instead of the pre2 and just hold out for what ever device HP is going to release come 2011.

love all this negative comments. its about the only action thats happenning with this site and webos.

how pissed would people be if the only thing announced at ces is the palm pixi 2

Ha, I think there'd be a mass suicide. Or a mass killing spree. Although given the small number of webOS faithful, it might not be that bad.

Nah. The sheep will just say "wait till the spring!" for whatever event they make up.

Starting to sound like Cubs fans: "Maybe next year..." becomes "maybe within the next 12-18 months..."

I've had an inkling of a feeling about this. I am wondering if palm is going to announce the release of the pre 2 at CES but introduce a roadmap for their "next-gen" devices during that time too. You have to think for a second; why would they release a pre 2 only a few days before, or at the same time they're going to release a "super" device? Who then, would buy the pre2?

If they do this, I'm going to be all over the verizon iphone. Sorry Palm - but I'm tired of waiting and being kept in the dark with hollow promises. That's what you get when you toy around with your loyal customers.

c-ya

um.. they did it last year. they released the pre in june. then the pixi in nov (i think) then the pre2 and pixi2 in january.

Palm, I used to visit crackberry, then I went to android central, please don't make me go back to any of those two again...

If HP/Palm shows up at CES with new products it will still take them another 3-6 months to place them in the pipeline at retail. Remember, this brand is on life support right now with a real likelihood of flat lining.

I'm giving up very soon. It sucks to be a teen. When the contract ends, I'm askin my mom for an android if they have no good palm stuff. My contract ends in 2012 so palm still has another year to attempt to impress me

sucks to be a teen? At least mommy will buy you your phone. I have to buy my own.

it would be interesting to see the poll mentioned above. I for one am waiting for CES and if nothing happens... I'm gonna cry. I don't want an Android phone, and even if I did, the only ones I'm interested in are the ones that will charge me an extra $10/mo just to have one. Add that to the fact that Sprint upgrades are more expensive than other carriers'... It's just not lookin good. If HP doesn't release anything good at CES and give us a solid timeline, I won't be happily going anywhere, I'll be unhappily trying to figure out WTF I'm gonna do.

Most likely, I'd end up with one of said android devices and hope that they eventually come up with decent multitasking.

Does the Pre 2 on AT&T support WiFI hotspot and is there an extra cost and what does it have for a Nav app and is there any cost for Navi.

Steve
a frustrated VZW users

This may be silly, but didn't Apple get sued for releasing a phone with their 5 year exclusive, trapping customers for that last year of a 2 year contract? Maybe HP/Palm is trying to avoid this? Which would make a next "real" Palm device released in June!!! ugh!

look nothing is going to happen at CES. All they are going to do is push the dreaded pre 2. We might see a tablet but it probably won't be released till june. I would suggest for people to stop hoping and wishing and just be realistic. It's time we all moved on.........

"Put your wishes in one hand and take a shit in the other and see which one gets filled up first."...Burgess Meredith (Grumpy Old Men)

last day of november. Palm still has 31 full days to release the update or else....

FYI, Betamax failed because the initial recording times were too short and tapes were more expensive; it wasn't a superior product in any sense except for image quality.

WebOS is a better mousetrap, and all of you people who are grudgingly leaving for android phones will be back when new webOS hardware comes out. If HP needs to keep it on life support in the meantime, it will (because you don't let billion dollar investments fizzle out).

And all this time I thought it was because the porn industry went with VHS

WebOS is not brain dead in need of unplugging.
The better metaphor is that it is a sick patient in need of an organ transplant. That organ will be available in probably fewer than 6 months, and there is no risk of the patient dying before then. HP is just waiting for a more perfectly matched organ instead of cramming in whatever they could get their hands on fastest. The Pre was rushed out to its detriment.

Yeah, but new organs get rejected all the time.

Any chance they are waiting for the LTE announcement and it's an LTE phone?

that will only happen after apple releases their lte version of the iphone

BTW, I use my Pre because it works for me. I'm not intimidated by my friends buying a bigger or faster smartphone. There will always be a bigger or faster smartphones and you just have to not be so insecure. If WebOS doesn't work for you, then why are you here? Go. Leave. My Pre is no slower than when I bought it, and it's no smaller than when I bought it. It still works. Why do we have so many spoiled brats whining on this site?

Irony: Whining at the fact that others are whining.

because we are all sick and tired of our old POS pre minius and the cheap build quality. All the glitches and tmc errors. Also having to download the hundreds of patches to address the everlasting issues that have been plaguing the pre since day one. Not to mention the kernells that give the phone some deacency but leaves you with 6 ours of stand-by time if you are lucky.

guys just look at the facts. Palm pre was a failure @ all it's launches. Pre 2 has been an even bigger failure......

I want to believe Sprint will have the Pre2 ASAP. No trolling, just want to believe. Till then, gonna get the GSM Pre2 and do the comm board swap. Muhahahahahaaaaaaa

yeah and when that shit breaks down on you, your gonna be stuck like chuck......

They're holding out to put 4G radios in them. If Pre 2 was Verizon's first 4G phone, that would kindle the HP Palm fire.

yeah but I have a feeling the iphone will be their first 4g phone

It loos like it will be due to hp's "work".

Verizon has 4G coming out before too long, so their (good) iPads are being delayed for this reason. Might the same be true of the next really awesome WebOS hardware?

I'm actually glad I've finally gotten to the point where I no longer get worked up about every little drib and drab of news and upgrades. I'll be plenty busy when something else rolls out and I can see what direction I want to go in...

when hp says "coming months", they mean "coming never"

LOL. It's hilarious to see all the fanboys with blinders on with that attitude of don't speak a negative word against Palm, webOS, or the Pre or else you are not welcome. Reminds me of a toddler covering their ears when they are hearing something they don't want to hear. Good thing these people aren't in power or I might be jailed for my dissent in thinking that webOS needs work and that different form factors should have already been announced and released. WP7 is going to have more apps than us in no time...they already have something like 3000 and they have more of the apps I want and use as opposed to sound boards, repackaged free books (which cost money) and reference books i'd never use. (sidenote: they should get a 'How to get over webOS' reference book in the App Catalog. Many of us will need it soon).

I'm still wondering why they toned down their 2nd webOS phone the "pixi". If they were trying to boost sales, it failed completely. They should've made the pixi and upgrade of the pre. And what's weird is that it's the only palm phone without wifi. Why palm why....

This is like watching a fatal car accident victim bleed out. Nothing you can do about it.

Yes I know that but still, if you want people to buy your products, it has to meet up to it's demands. This is a supply and demand buissness not supply people with shit and expect a higher revenue.

Yes I know that but still, if you want people to buy your products, it has to meet up to it's demands. This is a supply and demand buissness not supply people with shit and expect a higher revenue.

If you can buy the GSM version unlocked right now to use on AT&T, why doesn't Palm/HP just release the unlocked CDMA versions as well for Verizon and Sprint?

It it a technical reason, or does it have more to do with trying to get the phones into stores?

I bet it's because hp is trying to shut down palm hence the reason they bought it.

My USB area cracked (shocking) and the crack is spreading to my screen. Figuring I would fix this issue before it affected my screen, i brought it into Sprint repair. No one said a word about my weed themed patch, nor the kernel or any of the other cool patches i have going on thanks to preware. However, even though i am insured, this problem is "physical and will not be covered under my insurance". Although, for the ridiculous sum of $100 (i paid $1.00 for my pre in 2009), I can get a refurbished one which will probably have the same issue soon enough. What a deal! Good news - the Pre-loving rep said Sprint is going to carry the Pre 2 as soon as Verizon rolls it out. Wooohoooo!

Yeah, Sprint will carry the Palm Pre 2 when Verizon does. In March 2011.