Pre Plus and Pixi Plus getting SFR sneak preview April 27th. Launch soon thereafter? 32

Woah you're first!

What will be the monthly contract cost of the Pixi Plus? Would love to see if there is a difference.

French palm fan with name "Prefrog".... That's classic!

bring on the c40!

why are we still touting these same old devices? Is it because they're coming to new carriers? Is it because we hope that they have had some revisions made to them? The truth is, these are the same old Palm Pixi & Palm Pre albeit with more memory, other than that NOTHING has changed from the Verizon versions of these phones. I honestly could care less about which carriers they're coming to, because in all reality it has meant NOTHING in terms of new hardware, more stable software or a better selection of applications in the catalog.

I appreciate you posting the news on this site, and I understand that you must do so for every news bit, big & small, but really...if we have to see every single carrier that the Pixi Plus and Pre Plus go to then the news will just be cluttered.

Palm, if you're reading this...focus on your priorities! Push out a new, updated device that is built properly and has the "wow" factor that you need to win this race. You need to do this very soon or most of your current fans will jump ship to bigger, better built devices. Second you need to open this phone up for new apps to evolve, quit locking down the microphone already. If you want people to flock, then they need to know that they're coming to a device that can give them what they want. Your OS may provide nice colors and the UI may be simple but your build quality is crap, your app catalog lacking and every single time you release an update things fail to work properly afterwards.

So Palm, it's time to man up or give up. Especially you Jon Rubenstein, quit jerking off already and make Palm rise from the ashes already, right now youre just dripping water on a roaring campfire of discontent. If you can't do it then maybe your board of directors and investors should find somebody who can! And quickly.

more carriers do equal more units moved, but lets be serious here, in reality only a handful of those 1.5M units will move. The reason Palm has a stockpile of these phones is because the desire for them is NOT there. From the build quality through the marketing Palm has not only dropped the ball but they have jumped on it and deflated it afterwards.

the reason why Android has succeeded is easy to peg, they have managed to infiltrate every single carrier and every single cell phone design available. Palm needs to do the same exact thing, as many have said before. License the OS to as many avenues as possible, and maybe eventually make enough $ to design and build their own high quality device.

To be honest I love my Pre. It does everything I need: email, sms, mms, msn, facebook, general browsing, music the odd time, and a few useful apps. Apps, however, are of little concern to me - at least in the gaming sense. They are nice for the first time you play it and after that it just fills a slot in my launcher.

I love my Pre's form factor, I love the fact it has a touch screen AND a keyboard - something Blackberry has yet to produce (which gives Palm an edge), I love every little thing about it tbh. The only let downs are maybe battery life and speed slightly - although every update so far has made small changes to the speed. They may be small, and obviously an instant solution would be nice but it's still nice to see the OS becoming that little bit smoother slowly but surely.

As far as a new handset goes I don't really care that much. I'd rather see the speed and battery life cured, along with some useful apps - skype, doc editing etc. A new handset will give Palm a new form, but the same issues - apart from maybe a wiggling slider..

Can't wait for the Pixi to hit the Europe though. I'm hoping they jump a bit quicker off the shelf than the Pre. It will, however, take a fairly priced monthly contract to achieve this. Sorry for the essay but after reading so many depressing comments I had to let some feelings out myself lol.

Facebook Beta app is unreal.

Why is this all moving so slow? come on France, Italy, Netherlands, Belgium, Denmark, Sweden, Norway, Poland, Japan, China, whatever country...Australia not to forget. Why does this all take so long to get carriers on board?

It cannot be that hard to do?

DO YOU ALL TRULY THINK THAT THOSE OTHER OPERATING SYSTEMS OUT THERE ARE TRULY BETTER THAN THE WEBOS OR THE PRE? AND HOW GREAT THEY WERE WHEN THE IPHONE, THE ANDROID, THE BLACKBERRY AND THE WINDOWS MOBILE OS CAME OUT? WERE THEY FLAWLESS WHEN THEY FIRST CAME OUT? AND IF SO, TELL ME WHICH ONES WERE THEY?

WOAH CALM DOWN THE CAPS! lmfao. I can't tell if you're arguing with us..or agreeing :O

WebOS is a great thing, but it's still in it's infancy and it shows. Android, Symbian, WinMo, Blackberry and the iPhone OS's have all been refined over & over again. Now, saying that I will say that WebOS is the best at multitasking out there, but it has so many shortcomings sometimes that it doesn't shine like it should. Examples of this are the speed of the UI, the lack of full customization and certain applications that would propel this OS into the big leagues.

I saw this phone when it was first announced and saved and saved to buy one off contract after they dropped. Picked one up in July and loved it coming from a BlackBerry and the Samsung Instinct. But to be honest within the first two months the phone grew old, and I was frustrated with having to wait to get core features I had been used to having before. I used to be in the "Pre fan boat", but that changed when I picked up a Sprint Hero and saw all the things that Android could do. I just couldn't get used to the touch screen. So I came back to the Pre (during 1.3.5) and that was a frickin' joke!

Went back to the Hero, and still loved the features, waited til the Pre got video camera...then went back to the Pre, only to be dissapointed by my pictures being overwritten and bogged by the same issues as before.

The truth is this, you can love this company, these phones, the OS all you want, but one day Palm will falter, either through a buyout or on their own and all this that you ideolize and worship will fall from the pedestal you've placed it on. Palm is the only one who can save themselves, but if they continue to make blunder after blunder in marketing and building their phones and OS then they're as good as dead.

Palm has over a MILLION units collecting dust in a warehouse, supposing they launch on other carriers BEFORE those carriers get the new smartphone offerings from competitors, do you really think there's going to be a MILLION buyers? If you do then you're the one who is ignorant and naive. I've said it before the reason people aren't flocking to this phone is because the build quality is shit, the OS is buggy and the marketing is non-existent! Couple that with un-knowledgeable salespeople, and carriers who are hyping competing products and Palm's Pre & Pixi (Plus or not) don't stand a chance.

I hold out hope that come June Palm will have finally worked out it's issues, at least short term and will release a new, stellar high end device with an updated OS, but in my heart of hearts I know it won't happen. Time will tell though.

@Hecho I was tellin these fools tha same thing. None wants to listen. They try to defend a crumblin wall. Palm was great wen it first came out but update afta update it went to shit. Palm had tha lead wit multitaskin then Iphone came n stole tha game frm Palm SMH. We hav a bunch of spam apps that are worthless. Patches that destroys tha phone as a whole n no memory. I'm really upset at sprint due to tha fact that their one of the largest carriers but we still hav a 8GB of memory. Other carriers I haven't heard of are gettin tha 16GB wat tha FUCK.

If it goes as badly in France as it has in the UK and places then Palm are in trouble.

They need to license the OS and do it quick.

@dmiller The memory never really bothered me, only when it came to the "too many cards" issue. What bothers me besides what I've mentioned above is that we have to patch/Homebrew our phones just to get full functionality. It's my firm belief that Palm pushed this phone out half baked and have continued to play catch up in the world of smartphones. They have made great strides no doubt but they needed to come out with a knockout punch to begin with.

The average consumer doesn't see Palm advertised like iPhone and Android, and probably doesn't name recognize it like Blackberry and WinMo, so when they walk into their Verizon/Sprint/Bell/etc. Store and see the Pre or Pixi then there's no connection, no push from the salespeople, no nothing.

I have my issues w/ Jon Rubenstein running this company, he has brought Palm back into the fray sure enough, but does he have the testicular fortitude to take the company where it needs to go? Over and over he touts WebOS as being the end all save all of the smartphone OS market, but his guidance has also witnessed the nightmarish crash of the Pre/Pixi launches on Sprint, the lackluster performance on Verizon, not to mention the hardware deficiencies, the update issues, the crappy (and at times goofy) marketing as well as the decline of Palms stock.

That to me spells out a resounding NO! He should be replaced by someone who had a vision for this company and is not just basing their ideas on the same batch of kool aid that has been dished to consumers.

Will Palm be able to move those 1M (+/-) units? Maybe. But being a realist, those units are old news, that's like trying to market a 2008 Honda Accord as a new shiny top of the line model today, people may buy it, but not as many as if it were actually top of the line.

Maybe these extra carriers will help Palms bottom line, but not if Palm is unwilling to help themselves first!