Rumor: Could HP's recent trademark filings suggest Palm device names? 45
One of the best ways to predict how a company's strategy may be evolving is to look at its trademark applications, publicly searchable via the U.S. Patent and Trademark Office. Trademarks protect brand and product names, but since they are specific to different industries and categories, the application must also include how the mark will be used. Taken as a whole, one can make some educated guesses about upcoming releases (consider the PalmPad name, which was revealed through a trademark filing in July and seemingly confirmed by HP's Todd Bradley in late September). Still, given that trademark applications are quite cheap (either $275 or $325 each when filed electronically), these applications can also be red herrings, meant to mislead competitors and analysts alike.
Given the above, we're not sure how much we should rely on a few of HP's most recent (and intriguing) trademark applications. On December 14th, HP filed applications for three trademarks that could be names for portable devices: MYTE, GYST and VEER. The descriptions for the products or services for these proposed trademarks are typically broad, covering:
Computers; computer hardware; computer software; computer peripherals; computer and communications networking hardware and software; computer hardware, namely memory cards; computer hardware for telecommunications; computer monitors; computer keyboards; mobile digital electronic devices; mobile computers; handheld computers; portable computers; tablet computers; personal digital assistants; electronic organizers, electronic notepads; computer memories; telephones; mobile telephones; pagers; smartphones, videophones; mobile and handheld communications devices for sending and receiving data, information and other digital content, including audio and video content, namely handheld computers, mobile phones and smartphones; photographic and video cameras; audio players; video players; multimedia players; computer communications software; computer software, namely, prerecorded computer programs for personal information management, database management software, character recognition software, telecommunications software, telephony management software, electronic mail and messaging software, paging software, database synchronization software, computer programs for accessing, browsing and searching online databases; computer game programs; video game software; downloadable computer and video games; downloadable music, audio, video and entertainment related content; computer carrying cases; accessories, parts and cases for all the foregoing sold as a unit; instruction manuals in electronic form supplied with the foregoing sold as a unit; apparatus for recording, transmission or reproduction of data, text, graphics, sound or images; blank magnetic data carriers; prerecorded magnetic data carriers featuring software for use in connection with handheld communications devices, namely, mobile phones and smartphones; calculating machines, data processing equipment
Yes, we see "mobile and handheld communications devices" in that list, but we also see many other terms that may not relate to smartphones or tablets. Still, HP's other trademarks don't include "smartphones" in their descriptions (besides the oddly evocative "JUST RIGHT IT" from September 2010), so these do raise some possibilities.
By the way, for those of you who may be wondering whether HP's spellchecker is on the fritz ("Myte"? "Gyst"?), keep in mind that generic and descriptive words cannot be protected as trademarks. Companies often use misspellings that resemble actual words to evoke the original words but still potentially get trademark protection. Think about "Compaq" as a brand for (in 1982) compact portable computers, and you get the idea.
Sources: USPTO.gov, Pocketnow.com; Thanks to Azthel in our forums and Steve via e-mail for the heads up!




























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Actually the "Compaq" name came from "_Compa_tibility" and
"_Q_uality". Compaq started off building IBM compatibles.
Reference: http://research.microsoft.com/en-us/um/people/gbell/digital/timeline/com...
That may be the official explanation, but I would be *stunned* if part of the thinking wasn't the evocation of the word "compact." After all, it wasn't called a Qompatible. {Jonathan}
Jonathan I Ezor says he would be "stunned" if the original Compaq name didn't refer to the word "compact." Well, put on your rubber underwear and prepare to be stunned.
Anyone who has seen the original Compaq computer (1983?) knows it was anything but compact. Portable? Yes, if you mean something that can be carried on a hand truck/dolly. It weighed about 20 pounds and was the size of a microwave oven.
I'm old enough to remember when the first Compaq came out. It was indeed very compact and portable. My office mate had one. He carried it from home to work every day.
Remember that computers required CRT monitors then. There was nothing as compact and portable as that first Compaq. Compatibility was also an important feature. It was totally IBM compatible, so I'm sure that was another association that made the name great.
But the crazy amazing thing, was how you could just snap the keyboard into the front like a lid, pick it up, and take it with you.
I owned one. Like carrying around a fifty pound suitcase. I loved the pictures of it in magazine ads where a lady had it on a plane set up on a seat-back tray. Like it ran on batteries or something, and it would fit on a seat back tray and not break it if it did. I guess maybe if you were in 1st class back in the day they had ac outlets (I don't think they did) and super-jumbo heavy-duty trays. Still, it was miraculous for its day, when people still thought of computers that took up several rooms. So, yes, it was "compact."
What would really be "stunning" would be a fanciful trademark that had MORE THAN ONE meaning to different people. "Wow! Amazing! I'm stunned! How did those word-smiths in marketing pull that off?? I thought this word, which previously had no standard meaning in the English language, meant X and my friend thought it meant Y! How could we possibly disagree on something so objective as the meaning of a freshly made-up word??"
So now that the Pre is completely irrelevant in the market, and Web OS is about to become dead as Palm; will this website become a ghost website like treocentral.com?
Back in the beginning (stone age) anything that wasn't IBM was referred to as a clone. Their goal was to let you know that any software you bought for IBM was compatible with their box.
The names could be for any number of products, features, applications or services that HP offers worldwide. I'd keep an eye out for phones that capture HP/Palm products:
Anticipation
Tardy
Archaic
Brittle
UnVolt
Perpetual Charger XT
Slider
Mystical
Palm Pipedream
NonSoon
Then I'd know a new phone device was being prepared for release, but not soon.
well that's kind of funny:
http://bit.ly/dT5fRD
Get Your Shit Together. Military acronym used when correcting someone for not following procedures or for other minor goof-ups. Occasionally used at the end of a message for more serious problems.
You better gyst or you're history.
lololol... makes sense now. so "gyst" is somewhat of a "note to self"?
My boss is ex military and he uses GYST and HTFU all the time. GYST would actually be a great name for a custom device for the military.
Another boring, purely speculative post. I've never seen so much make-work in my life.
+1, if there is a 1 in 1,000 chance they'll hit, they're going to bat... Things are really slow around here...
However apparently you guys lives are much slower because you have the time to read and post on stories like this. Just say'n...
i am very pleased that you thanked me twice but i think thats not quite necessary. ;-)
I'm not one to out folks who choose to use screen names (even if I'd realized it!). {J}
I enjoy any reading that they post on here.
we know it's slow, but thank you jonathon.
Poetry: Palm, king like a Mantaray, swift like a Stingray, Gyst (just) Myte (might) Veer down Broadway into a Mansion like the Windsors. Please Palm. Make It So.
I just hope these aren't the names of future phones/tablets. They just are not very catchy or fun to say. Please HP, don't use these!
thanks.
gyst - small pixi phone, veer - slider, myte - big mammajamma.
I was thinking the same exact thing.
Gyst- get your sh*t together cause HP will...
veer- to avoid questions dealing with new hardware because they...
myte- in the coming months
lol... This 1year delay of any news of new hardware that IS NOT a re-hashed Pre is getting booooring.
by the time new hardware comes out it will be in time for the poor people that are stuck on 2year contracts renew.... The rest of us 12month upgrade people probally did a mass exodus... There goes almost all of the biggest chunk of Palms business... The Sprint users..
actually HP don't care either.. They have new printers with Android tablets attached to have fun with right now... Just sayin.. Lol
Funny name game. I love it! Here's my similar version:
GYST, HPalm, b/c consumers are VEER'ing from feature phones into smartphones; so loosely promising to come out with new hardware in "the coming months" MYTE not cut it.
I didn't exodus (exodize?) yet. I could have, but I figured my palm pre keeps me happy enough until the next big revolution happens. That may or may not be with Spring/webOS. The "revolution" that lead me to purchase the Palm Pre was driven in 4 parts:
1--I already had a Treo 700wx and though Palm had done a great job of adding special sauce to windows mobile 5.0 (I confess I was never a fan of PalmOS);
2--webOS mutli-tasking and overall sexiness;
3--hard-keyboard;
4--the low monthly fee of Sprint compared with AT&T/Verizon.
ya I haven't made the exodus either here at Sprint.. Been in the Premier program before it was even public seeing I have been a good standing customer since 1999.. Had my chance when the EVO 4G came out then the Epic 4G.. Seeing I live in a 4G city it was extremely tempting...
but if CES comes around and nothing is set for Sprint I'll have to take a temporary Exodus seeing my upgrade is every March and either a new WebOS smartphone will be available or the mysterious PalmPad..
my Pre is on it's last legs.... Again (this is Pre #4). I need a new phone....again... I am so hoping new WebOS device or devices come to Sprint soon.. Because my other 2 options here are BlackBerry (laughing hysterically) or Evo 4G or possibly this Evo 4G slide I've heard of (Evo with a slide out keyboard.. But Android.. Thinking of that makes me throw up a little in my mouth)
crossing my fingers for a good presentation at CES..
The only thing I am interested in is which one of these is coming to MY carrier i.e. Sprint. HP can come out with a zillion phones at CES but it is no good for me if they are only available for Verizon.
I switched my entire family from Verizon to Sprint after 10 years just so we could all get the Palm Pre on launch day, and I would switch back if a compelling enough WebOS device were made available on Verizon.
Waiting on the LEAR, first phone with millimeter wave/backscatter camera.... ;)
myte is that smallest smartphone ever they were talking about which might or myte be a watch.just my guess.
Two things will either happen @ CES: (1st) HPalm will coming out with a high spec smartphone that will blow WebOS users away and potential users OR (2nd)a huge disappointment that WebOS users will decide to go to iOS or Android.
By the time they get new phones to new networks they will have WebOS 2.5 or 3.0 lol
They missed on naming definations @ HPalm...
-myte - as might come out soon.
should be
-myth- as coming soon is a myth
veer - as we might get a new phone out but veer..ing off course from printers & Toasters
should be
- voodo - like smoke & mirrors.. Announced but not delivered like flash, office, api's etc..
gyst - gyst you wait as voodo myte come soon in a few months
should be
just - just write or email for more info to:
californiaPhy-chics@hp.com c/o mike hurd......
Might as well call them Ghost, Vapor, and Absent.
Personally, I like: "The HP Absent. Flash and WebOS 2.1 powered. Available in the coming months."
Sent from my Sprint Pre-
So we have a military and football term. What the hell is MYTE?
Well, I'm not sure if those are really the origins of those "words" or not. My initial thoughts were:
myte is pronounced like "Mighty" and could be a power user phone.
gyst is pronounced like "Gist" which is defined at dictionary.com as "the main or essential part of a matter: What was the gist of his speech". So here I'm thinking solid phone with the essentials but not necessarily for the power user.
veer - heck if I know, I got nut'n on this one.
Veer also means brother in India, there are a lot of Indian engineers. So Pre's big brother is coming?
Haha just to throw that out there.
Since we're speculating, I hear HP has cafeterias on some of their campuses. Could they possibly be feeding people that are working on a new phone?
i laughed
i chuckled
When HP bought Palm, I immediately thought of a webOS powered media hub. Moving the Home Server group into Palm was a good sign that it might come to be.
This is what I envisioned - A set top cable box with a TV tuner, DVR, cloud sync, and local drives to serve up video and music, plus act as as back up & NAS for all of my devices. You could get rid of your: Tivo, Google/Apple TV, Cable box, Wifi router, NAS back up server. It would centrally hold and serve my music and video collections. It could sync those files to the cloud as a back up. Give it a browser, Netflix, YouTube, ... Put a webOS interface on it. Give me wired and wireless access to it through my TV, computers, stereo, phone and tablet. Eventually you could even add gaming.
Name it the GYST (Get Your S**t Together). I'd buy it.
Really? They picked these names? These are worse than the "Pixi" and "Windows Phone 7" (okay maybe not as bad as "Windows Phone 7").
Don't VEER off track HP/Palm, and we all GYST MYTE pick up a device or two from you.
Technically, trademarks can be registered even when "descriptive," but only when the descriptive TM has acquired distinctiveness. All one needs is evidence that "consumers in the marketplace exclusively associate the mark, as used on the identified goods or in connection with the identified services, with a particular commercial origin or source (i.e. the trademark owner)." (See Wikipedia--consider donating if you haven't.) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trademark_distinctiveness
It would be correct to say that an unused, non-consumer-associated TM cannot be registered if it is merely descriptive. Again, this is a technicality that I thought I would point out because I've been reading a lot of TM-law lately.