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Rumor: GSM Palm Pre won't get 1.2 until November 15

by Dieter Bohn Fri, 02 Oct 2009 3:53 pm EDT

We're afraid we may have to throw some cold water on everybody waiting in line for the October 13/16th launch of the GSM Palm Pre on O2's networks in Germany, Ireland, and the UK. That cold water is a big old bucket of webOS 1.1.3 - which is likely to be the newest version of the OS that Europeans will be able to use. 1.2 may not hit until November.

The info comes courtesy of Gizmo21, who points us to heise online, who suggest that the UMTS Pre will start out with 1.1.3 and won't get the update until November. This forum post at ppc-welt (we know it's just a forum post, but seems accurate) backs that up, adding that the Pre may even come out of the box rocking webOS 1.1.2 and require a software update for 1.1.3 action.

If this is true and Palm can't get 1.2 GSM-ready in time for the pending European launch, it stacks all kinds of bummerage on the webOS platform - paid apps won't hit Europe for who knows how long (no surprise, since even Canada can't get 'em) and Europeans won't get all the benefits in 1.2 right away.

What is really troubling, though, is the fear that Palm might be hitting a point where they're overextended and unable to release the webOS on multiple versions of the same device at the same time -- much less on multiple devices at the same time. That's nothing new in the smartphone world (cf. BlackBerry and Windows Mobile), but we were holding out hope that Palm had a bag of fairy dust that made the subtle differences between carriers, GSM, and CDMA magically disappear.



Does that mean we'll be waiting a while for webOS 1.3 or are the two systems so different that it's a non issue for us?

my guess is that it is more likely an issue with the operators demanding time to test the different OS.

They have probably had 1.1.3 for a while now and finally got it tested. Palm will go with that for the launch, rather than delay while the operator takes a couple of months to test 1.2

We kept seeing delays in releasing different firmwares on the treo as the various carriers insisted on their own very special customised versions and lengthy testing...

I'm sure europeans are more worried about getting their Pres than which webos version include.

You, people who has insiders, when the spanish Pre will be out???

you are sooooo right :D
But of course I hope that for the next updates there will be no time difference.

This is a major pain in the nether regions; I've been patiently waiting the UK release for what is starting to seem like too long and when I finally get my hands on it, it will not only be missing all the bug fixes in 1.2 but won't include any of the updated features carelessly left out of the original release.

Does it also mean that I'm going to have problems with Homebrews that are as I write being updated for 1.2?

Seriously doubt I'll be rushing to the shops on 16th October

Well I was 70/30 over getting one on the 16th, or waiting a week or so to see if there were any problems. If this is true about 1.2, then I'm 100% not getting one until November at the earliest, treating it like an early Xmas gift. By November it may even come with 1.3+ :-)

I think you're probably right, which is disappointing as I really, really want to get my hands on one!

Perhaps its good news, now I don't have to struggle and try to get hold of a german or english phone, instead I can wait for release in my own country and by the time its available all the little faults are hopefully sorted.

"What is really troubling, though, is the fear that Palm might be hitting a point where they're overextended"

What?? Palm has been overextended since they started working on webOS. It is just becoming more and more visible.

I guess the good news is at least our friends in Europe will still be able to access their Exchange accounts :)

Unless you know exactly what Webos 1.1.3 contains, you can't say that it is worse than Webos 1.2.0. It likely is the last 1.1 we had in the US plus the email security patch. WebOS 1.1 is certainly functional enough for a launch. It just means that the Europeans will get a free app catalog for a while (which is not a bad thing in itself). I agree that 1.2's better memory and battery management would be better. (I don't really know how GSM battery life will compare with CDMA, but my guess is that the carriers know and that they and Palm feel this will be acceptable for the launch.)

i want that wallpaper NOWWWWW :P

What's a couple of weeks when you've waited months. I think 1.2 is a significant upgrade. I'd wait if I am in Europe.

Palm needs to leverage the community and encourage development that furthers the platform. I'm honestly burned out from my day job but the idea of contributing to this excites me tons (it's just hard to find the time lately)

I think fears that palm can

hi guys,

I am from germany and just to ask you, if I have to wait for the 1.2.1 version of webos till I can start using the WebOSQuickInstal and tweak my phone?