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SlingPlayer to be Flash based, Will Work With webOS 1.4 140

by Robert Werlinger Fri, 08 Jan 2010 8:57 pm EST

When Adobe Flash 10.1 comes the way of webOS in February, a whole new world of interactive content is going to be opened up to Pre and Pixi users.  Fierce Wireless is reporting that Sling Media, the company behind SlingPlayer, has announced a collaboration with Adobe to support the Flash streaming protocols for the "smooth streaming of H.264 audio and video", meaning that any device supporting Flash 10.1 (that'll be you webOS users out there soon enough) will be able to run the full SlingPlayer application. 

Now we wait for 1.4 and the Flash Player Beta to land in the App Catalog. We'll be playing some Need for Speed while we wait. You?

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Too bad us pixi owners won't get this. hugh. maybe next year.

Pixi = webOS entry level device

When you only get a new phone every two years, should anything be "Entry level?"

You get a new upgrade every 10 months.

Every 12 months

Looks like no flash for pixi. Jon only mentioned the Pre.

It's actually 22 months, at least on sprint.

I was assuming that we were not including sprint premier.

You automatically become a Sprint Premiere customer after 3 months of being on a Pre with 2 year contract.

no it's 10 months or less, I got the Samsung Instinct back in March 2009 and I just upgraded to the Palm Pr? on Black Friday at Best Buy for $79.99 with a new two year contract. A bunch of you Pixi owners could have done the same thing, unless of course you could not of upgraded at that time.

Also if Flash is going to be an app how will it not appear to download for Pixi users?
it has to be released for the Pixi, that would be a no brainer move for Palm.

12 months for us Sprint Premier customers. Should be exciting to see what phone I will go with come June

is that confirmed that the flash beta is going to the app catalog? A while back I signed up to be part of the pre beta of that on the adobe site.

It was announced yesterday at CES. Flash 10.1 bete will be available to us through the app catalog.

Wow. It might finally be time for me to get a SlingPlayer.

My thoughts exactly.

This is FANTASTIC news for us SlingPlayer owners!

I paid $35 just to have SlingPlayer Mobile on my old Treo700w. Now I'll have it again on my Pre for free!

I have to ask this question. How is it free? Even with flash, don't you still have to buy an app?

The app is nothing, you need the device to have a signal to pull down with the phone.

So how would you open the slingmobile player?

Either they will make a sling mobile app and/or they will use a Flash-based plug-in via a web page.

For the desktop you just go to... http://www.sling.com/sling_player

It installs a plug-in for your specific device.

It could work the same way for mobile devices.

What he is saying is that he bought the player previously for a different phone. So, hopefully, when slingplayer is available on WebOS all he has to do is a license key transfer to the Pre. That is allowable.

Per Slingbox.com website: "For Keys purchased from the Sling Media store:

Your SlingPlayer Mobile Registration Key is only good on one device at a time but you can transfer your original registration Key and email address combination to your new device, as long as SlingPlayer Mobile is available for that device in the Sling Media store. When you register your new device using your old Key, we'll automatically unregister your old device. We'll also send you an email verifying this change."

I think it is free because, you will be watching from the web (Sling.com) and there no more need for a specific app for each device. He said at CES this is a full Flash version not a 'Lite' version.

Even when you watch from sling.com you must first install the plug-in. It is the plug-in that contains the device specific code that Sling must write and support.

By swapping this plug-in for the Adobe Flash plug-in they effectively switch the burden to Adobe. Since Adobe is agressively focusing on getting their player onto virtually every device imaginable, we all benefit.

Who said it was free? SPM is $29.99 on all other available mobile OSes, I don't see why it would be any different from webOS.

Thats what I was thinking, but post above was at least interesting.

Actually, I was assuming it will be free because SlingMedia is moving towards supporting Flash. By leveraging the Flash player they offload all of that effort of supporting all the different devices to Adobe. Hence, no more need to charge the end user. The concept of a mobile version of the SlingPlayer goes away. All platforms use the same player. Adobe has taken care of the platform differences now.

Of course, they could still put something in place to get additional revenue out of mobile users, but even so, it should cost way less.

Currently they have to build a proprietary sling player plug-in for each platform/browser combination they want to support (IE, FireFox, Chrome, Safari, Webkit on their respective OS's, i.e., XP, Vista, Win7, OS X, Blackberry OS, iPhone OS, Symbian, WebOS, etc). That is a very expensive proposition for SlingMedia.

A Sling Player is one of my criteria for a new phone. Android is getting a client, and I expect WebOS will also (later), but the flash player would probably hold me over. WebOS is looking much better to me. I was all set on Android before CES, but now I'm leaning toward WebOS. If only they would introduced a new device with Nexus One type specs...

I'm currently a WinMo 6.1 user.

John

Even though the reviews of the Nexus One say there is very little difference in performance overall between it and the lower spec'd Droid? Not too mention a phone with specs like the Nexus One would mean low internal memory which means very little room for apps.

The internal app space on Android is being overblown. The executable itself needs to be stored in that memory (512K on the Nexus One, 256K on the Droid), but assets (textures, images, data, etc...) can be stored on the SD Card.

Google has also stated that they will be allowing for installs on the SD Card (like WinMo allows) at some point.

The biggest problem with the Nexus One right now is that is needs T-Mobile in the US for 3G. I'm currently on AT&T and would consider Verizon, but not Sprint or T-Mobile (coverage problems for me). WebOS happens to be coming to both ATT&T and Verizon... :)

Palm has made it much harder to go Android, which is a good thing. The iPhone isn't for me and WinMo is stale right now.

John

Nexus One was announced for VZ.

Coverage for Sprint s/b no issue, just enable roaming. Another free service of low cost Sprint. Any mobile, anytime.

I think he is referring to data coverage. Doesn't roaming only apply to voice coverage?

On Sprint it does -- you can not roam onto Verizon 3G if Sprint 3G in unavailable, only Verizon voice network if Sprint voice network is unavailable.

you can data roam on sprint I do it all the time

How can you tell when you are data roaming? When I am voice roaming on Verizon I see the letter "R" instead of Ev.

However, when this happens I can no longer use data, i.e., connect to the internet.

I roam on VZ EVDO all the time when we go to our lake house in rural Texas. I've looked at the cell tower maps for the area and there are two VZ towers barely withing range (1-2 bars) and the nearest Sprint (or any other carrier) tower is 30+ miles away. But while I'm there I jump on the my Pre and it comes up EV mostly. Only way that is possible is through VZ towers. Check out the towers in your area here: http://www.cellreception.com/towers/

I enabled Data Roam on my phone. I've never been dropped during a session (try that with GSM). At my office, most of the day I'm on Verizon data. At home I'm always sprint.

Data roaming is disabled by default. To enable it, launch the Phone app, select Preferences from the menu, scroll down to the Data Roaming setting, tap on it and select Enabled.

This should also help if you need to use Sprint Navigation in an area with Verizon coverage but no Sprint coverage.

Make sure you have enabled Data Roaming in the settings (in the Phone App, I believe.) This is off by default.

I was a Winmo 6.1 user with the motorola phone. I did not realize how bad it was until I got the Palm Pre. The browwser was utter garbage and it always became so slow because application ran in the background without me knowing.

ok people with a pixi stop bitching. It's your fault for getting a pixi, it's not like you couldn't get a pr?.

couldnt have said it better. I just ordered my Pre earlier today after seeing all the stuff at CES. And i saw a guy who is still using winmo 6.1 dear lord dude, jump ship to anything other than windows. I did. And i doubt i'll ever look back.

hey now

I still use a tytnII :(

be nice

some of us can't have the pre

And I wish you would shut the fuck up. And alot of us couldn't get the pre. You don't know what nobody situation is. It's amazing how much of an ass people can be.

Like you? Not amazing at all. You sound like you've perfected the art kid.

The biggest shame of WebOS has gone from the app limit to the low-class vocabulary of the combatants in the room. Very Springer-esque. If you can't make your point without sound like a Joisey Shore wanker, please go buy a Tracfone.

really just shut up. Since you don't have a pixi you wouldn't understand. We are getting shafted. You know and we all know that Pixi can handle flash and 3D. No wonder analyst predict palms death soon.

Its an ENTRY LEVEL PHONE.

But it's still possible for flash and 3d games on the phone. What they could have done was at least say it wasn't coming to the phone or give a time table for it to be available on the phone. Instead of not mentioning it at all.

Again, it's an entry level phone. Do you think Palm is going to place Flash and 3D gaming at equal priority with their current flagship phone, the Pre? No. Most likely, support will come later once they get the Pre down.

The issue on the Pixi might simply be one of screen resolution. (From what I've read, the processor speeds aren't that different.) If you've got a Pixi, have patience. As others have said, Pre is the flagship phone right now, so the Pixi will get some advances after the Pre.

Actually, resolution is probably not the reason. The real reason is that specific code must be written for each GPU. The Pixi has a different GPU than the Pre.

Support will eventually come, no doubt.

The 3D games and Flash have to be written for each GPU? I didn't realize that. I thought it just had to be ported to the ARM processor...

No, but you are on right track. The 3D games do have to be recompiled for the target processor, not rewritten. That's not the hard part. It's the OpenGL layer that the games depend upon that has to be written for each GPU. That is Palm's job. Palm has to implement OpenGL once for the Pre and once again for the Pixi. They chose to do the Pre first.

Flash 10.1 also depends on OpenGL. So Adobe can't implement Flash on the Pixi until Palm implements OpenGL first.

It may also have to do with RAM. Sim3 seems to take about all the Ram that the Sprint Pre has to give. I thought the Pixi with half the RAM as the Pre. This will be a factor for big games.

I don't get the hostility and the need for you to curse. It's not like the price of the Pixi is all that different to the pre. The pixi is entry level if you did some research you would have known what you were getting.

What is with all this hostility between people with Pre's and people with Pixi's. Is it a "who has the bigger dick" contest? The Pre and the Pixi are really similar in hardware and software. Almost Identical in fact. The difference is NOT that it is an entry level phone in terms of how advanced it is...but rather that it is an entry level phone made for first time users who want the smart phone experience. That being said, i reiterate...THEY ARE VERY FREAKIN SIMILAR. Palm just holds the Pre as their flagship phone. Think of the Pre as the Pixi's big brother. The pixi WILL eventually get 3D games and whatever else...it will just take more time because the Pixi isnt exactly made to be super duper amazing...even though it is. The Pixi is made to have enough functionality that it pleases the first time smart phone user like my Girlfriend...who loves her phone. So put away your shwartz's people...this is not a contest!

I agree

this is how I think of the pre/pixi

Pre is a flagship device. It made webOS for what it is today, and everyone should be thankful for this. It is a top end device that is going after the big market share (iPhone & Android devices)

Pixi has 2 angles. It is attacking RIM's market share as a power business user that adds the elegance that RIM cannot contend with (please keep in mind Palm was a straight up business platform in their early days). But, Palm is sending the message as capturing market share for people who do not own a smartphone yet, and it's giving consumers more choice.

Palm has a strategy. They are executing it, and, quite well.

Do you watch sports? If you do, you would know how the system works - you can't rebuild a failing team over night. It takes a strategy to rebuild, and in sports, it averages at least 3 years. The cell market is quick. You have at most 1 year. Palm has done well.

whoa man
calm down

I'm sorry if you read what I wrote in the wrong context

I honestly don't understand why a simple joke playing along with old school windows mobile 6.1 offended you that much

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!

This is fantastic news!

I'm a bit confused. I remember it being announced that the Flash beta plug-in would be released "soon," not that it was tied to 1.4. Is there something that specifies that the beta won't release _until_ 1.4? Rather, I remember seeing that it would be released as a plug-in "soon," and will be a part of 1.4--which I took to mean that it will be incorporated into it, not just available via a plug-in in the App Catalog.

He said 1.4 would be out in February. He said flash would run on devices with 1.4. He then said flash beta would be out 'soon'. A bit misleading with his last comment re: beta release but I'm going to assume 1.4 is a requirement thus no flash (beta or otherwise) until 1.4 lands.

I thought pixi would get flash also.

THAT IS THE BEST NEWS IVE HEARD YET. ALL I WANT PALM TO DO NOW IS ADVERTISE THE SH*T OUT OF IT. I MEAN DOING COMMERCIALS THAT WOULD WANT TO MAKE PEOPLE REWIND IT OVER, AND OVER AGAIN. ICRAP YOU BETTER WATCH OUT. ITS PALMS YEAR.

so, let me get this straight. YOU purchased a pre for YOURSELF and YOU are the one that uses it everyday, yet somehow, YOU can't be happy with YOUR phone which works miracles for YOU until Palm spends tons of money that they don't have on advertising. Advertising costs millions to do it well, which might explain Palms low budget scary girl commercials! This is a marathon not a sprint! Our WebOs devices will do great if we show and tell our phones. Palm will become a big hitter again if yall stop whining and complaining and push the great experience we are having watching our platform take root and grow right before our eyes! Show your peeps how excited you are with Palm and WebOs and they will want to join you!!!!!!!

I can personally say I got 3 soon to be 4 people to upgrade to a Pre. This really is an amazing device. And now with what was announced at CES all I can say is bring it!

No doubt! now thats what I'm talking about! I've brought 3 new folks already to my Preland and one of them switched out an Iphone! Go Figure!!....All I did was let him use my Pre for a few days and he quickly realized how old the Iphone UI felt. What made him listen to me in the first place was when he let me use the Iphone for a few days. We promised to give each other's phone a fair chance and so we switched. I gave his Iphone back to him and told him I felt like when I used it I was using an old 10-key calculator, especially after whisking and swiping around on the Pre with its multitasking and Synergy! He agreed! combine that with Sprint's more "Bang for the Buck" plans and Voila! Presto! Chango! Iphone be gone!! LOL!

True Story! So, F**@ some advertising, your friends will trust you way more than they trust ABC, NBC, and CBS!

Let other people know on Amazon what you think about your Pre. It is a great site to share your experience. Tens of millions of customers use the site. There are people who do not use the product that write bad reviews about it - which is terrible and dishonest. It is good that those who use the product also share their experience.

It is a little more complex than that. One of the big publicity sites is Amazon. There are people who are bashing the Palm Pre on Amazon, and that can affect sales. I submitted my review, but I am just one person.

so, let me get this straight. YOU purchased a pre for YOURSELF and YOU are the one that uses it everyday, yet somehow, YOU can't be happy with YOUR phone which works miracles for YOU until Palm spends tons of money that they don't have on advertising. Advertising costs millions to do it well, which might explain Palms low budget scary girl commercials! This is a marathon not a sprint! Our WebOs devices will do great if we show and tell our phones. Palm will become a big hitter again if yall stop whining and complaining and push the great experience we are having watching our platform take root and grow right before our eyes! Show your peeps how excited you are with Palm and WebOs and they will want to join you!!!!!!!

I wonder if we'll be able get a watchable stream over EVDO or will we need wifi sized bandwidth?

My assumption is that any internet connection will do on the WebOS (Wifi, EVDO, and 1x). I mean internet is internet, right?

I was thinking more it terms of the required bandwidth needed to get smooth frame rates.

slingplayer is pretty good at dumbing down a signal based on your connection. I can stream full 1080p with my slingbox on a LAN, but at work i get about 400k, and still get a watchable quality on a 52in sony LCD (hooked up through my laptop). I would assume with our screen size, even a basic connection would be plenty fast. I wouldnt be surprised to see an EVDO or wifi requirement (similar to directvs supercast) just to avoid people complaining about quality.

A few years back when I had SlingMobile app installed on my Treo 700w on the Verizon's older data network it was acceptable (~200-300kbps).

It must be way better today using today's 3G network with today's devices.

If I use my Dell mini 9 netbook with a tethered Pre on Sprint it looks pretty good. It should look even better on a lower resolution device such as the Pre.

I can't wait. My wife is able to upgrade 02/01 and we were leading towards HTC Android or just waiting til June to see what happens this summer but, now maybe not.

I thought that the Pixi was getting Flash too though.

" 2/01 " She has 90 years left on her contract. I guess what they say about women not knowing how to negotiate is true...JK :0)

LMFAO.... Jab

Um -- you are not making us men look too bright either.

2/01 to me means February 1st.

o-O

Im curious people...I THOUGHT the Pixi and the Pre were close to identical in specs...so why is the Pixi not getting some of the upgrades that the Pre will be getting?

Rubinstein said on "All Things D" that Verizon would be advertising the crap out of it.

Awesome!! I've been wanting SlingPlayer for my Pre since it's release!!

Where does it say that it's available ONLY for the Pre??? The article says all WebOS devices.

Agree. "... a whole new world of interactive content is going to be opened up to Pre and Pixi users".

This is VERY good news! Pleased.

Finally, the end is near for tethering my iPod Touch to my Pre via MyTether WiFi just so I can use the SlingPlayer app on my Touch. =) Now, we just gotta get video out from the Pre so I can plug that bad boy into the van's DVD system for rear seat enjoyment of DirecTV. I'm not holding my breath, however.

Almost all my palm related dreams are coming true! If only we had an ORB app though. Using the website sucks.

everybody talkin about whether or not the pixi is getting flash. well it is gettin flash. But do you guys understand that along with flash, we are getting sling player media. do u all know what that means. this bring your cable network to you or your computer to you. THIS IS EXCELLENTE'

GO PALM!!!!!!!

4G on sprint is coming which should be way faster than 3G(almost broadband like). I Hope this translates to seemless video playback.

I hope the good people over at My Tether can adapt to the 4G network and the WebOS update coming...I paid 15 good bucks to be able to Tether my phone....

but now imagine the possibilities....being able to Tether a 4G network and NOT have to pay for cable internet or DSL or whatever you have EVER AGAIN!

But poor poor verizon customers will still have to....HAHAHA

Sorry the pre does not have a 4G radio maybe the pre 2

Sorry, but the Pre/Pixi does not have a WiMAX (4G) radio.

And besides, if you were to use tethering on your Pre/Pixi as your primary internet connection, I am sure Sprint would notice.

Sweet..

alright, help me out here. I noticed a comment above that said "now I can enjoy my slingbox on my pre for free." How is this? Even with flash, don't you still have to purchase and app?

Maybe, maybe not. You can get to your slingbox via your browser at sling.com. Once you go there you have to download a device/browser specific plug-in. The theory is that with Adobe doing all the heavy lifting (writing device specific code) Sling would no longer need to charge for their mobile player to offset their developmnt costs.

It is in Sling's interest not to charge for a player since it would encourage the purchase of more of their hardware (Slingboxes).

I am sorry for people with pixis... good thing I don't have one.

Flash is coming to the Pixi but not some of the 3d games

To bad the slingbox costs so much

My Slingbox has been gathering dust (I'm not kidding) since I gave up my Treo 700p for my Pre.
Slowly but surely, the Pre has been able to do the things my Treo used to do (streaming radio, crossword puzzle app), Sling is the last thing.
Bring on that Flash baby!

Slingbox works fine on EVDO... Have used it first on a PPC 6700 years ago when it was EVDO rev 0... I now use it on my Blackberry tour 9630. Hope they dont make me watch it in wifi...

F*&%*# AWESOME!!!!!

woah....calm down with the "joisey shore reference"....
i was totally agreeing with the comment about how the forums are getting a little immature, then the guy makes a comment downing people from jersey over a stupid show that's stars people at a jersey shore point (one of many) but half of them are from new york.
also, north jersey and south jersey are like two different states with two different metro influences.
south jersey is more of a philly influence, north jersey is nyc influence....and you'll never hear anybody say "joisey" from either side.... jusss' saying

In palm news...i'm loving the promise of more high end games and applications and right now the sky is the limit for this phone company and i'm hoping i'll have another webos option when this summer rolls around and i'm eligible for an upgrade with my sprint carrier.
right now..i'm eternally blissful with my palm pre
thanks Palm

It sounds like it might be a good option for some people and to bring the Pre on the same laying field as compared to others. I'm not a Sling user myself, been using Orb for my remote media access needs.
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well I wish one of the bloggers here would discuss whether flash and/or 3D gaming is anticipated for the Pixi. My son has a couple weeks left on his initial 30 days and would like to keep the phone if it is eventually coming, or at least know if its not so can switch to a Pre.

My friend is sayin the same thing. Anyone who knows better than us?

If it were me, I would return the Pixi and get the Pre. So much more to gain having a Pre over the Pixi. Good thing is they are both webOS so he will already know how to use the phone and it is easy to move all your stuff over with using Google.

IVE TRANSFORMED 4 PEOPLE TO PALM PRE/SPRINT..TWO OF WHOM USED TO BE iPHONE USERS!..YEA! SPRINT SHOULD PAY ME! :) CANT WAIT TO UNITE WITH MY SLINGBOX...LONG DAYS AT WORK WOULD BE A BREEZE..NO MORE MISSING THE GAMES - RIGHT ON TIME FOR WORLD CUP!

Um. you know. Sprint DOES offer rewards (money) if you recommend them to someone, and they succesfully get a contract with them. I guess you don't read anything at their website xD

to all of you who say the pixi in an "entry level device" please grow up and try to learn a little about it. if you would read both the pixi and pre will be getting the final flash version next month. the pre only gets the beta right now. all 3d games and this sling player will come to the pixi in time. the pixi is no slower than the pre and it can do the same things. as a matter a fact it's actually faster at loading everything than the bulky pre is. ive owned both and i now hands on.

I don't disagree that 3d games will come to the pixi in time, but was that officially announced? (I didn't catch all the fine details of flash/ gpu across both models).

the thing about this whole pixi/pre debate is that it was known from the start that the pixi wasn't meant to appease serious smartphone users. So it doesn't make sense to get upset that your device is getting the short end of the stick when it comes to updates and functionality.

I just can't show sympathy to someone who knowingly purchases and inferior device, then complains about its inherent inferiority. Especially when $50 more could have gotten you a device you'd ultimately be satisfied with.

And if the extra $50 is what held you back, perhaps the world of high tech gadgets, and data plans isn't for you at the time...

Yeah lets not bitch about the pixi on this thread.. instead lets channel our energy into something positive.. talk about how we soon can watch some skinemax (cinemax) on the crapper now. Wew! i can see them bouncin now ;)

of course sling will be available for the PIXI, however, since the sprint version doesn't have WIFI, it will use EVDO, not a big deal at all.......

I doubt anyone is worrying long term about the cost of the Pixi vs the Pre. Both my wife and son prefer the form factor vs my Pre. I have to say I would as well if the Pixi had the same size screen as the Pre. I have used both handsets extensively. Honestly, there's nothing 'entry level' about the Pixi.

everybody needs to stop pickin on the pixi and stop hating on people that are on VZ that will be gettin the new pre plus because, we need palm to keep growing so that more and more people can share there experience by having the pre. more net works, more population of pre owners, more developers, more apps with 3d effects. mand if this keeps multiplying, then we will have the world of high tech in the PALM of our hands!!!! we need to embrace new owners that have pres from everywhere. and by doing that, we will get more.

With flash, games, and all the other stuff, I hope that opera mobile/mini comes to webos.

and why the hell would you want an opera browser for the current WebOS one?

I was thinking the same thing....Opera mini was great on an old phone with a crappy browser....but with webOS who needs it!

guys, don't want to sour this great news, but please note that slingplayer through flash will only work on boxes that can support the h.264 codec. that means that ONLY the slingbox Pro-HD and Slingbox SOLO will be able to use flash to stream. legacy slingboxes, including the Slingbox Pro will be out of luck. hopefully sling decides to build a native webOS app that will include the older boxes, but knowing their track record, even if it does happen, id be surprised if we saw anything before Q3 2011.

What is your source for this info (please post URL)?

Is it possible a firmware upgrade can add the codec to the slingboxes or are you saying the hardware itself in these older boxes isn't capable of supporting the h.264 codec?

Slingbox Solo and Slingbox PRO HD it is.

http://www.fiercewireless.com/press-releases/sling-media-announces-suppo...

It's in the first paragraph of the article. I'm glad that I have a Slingbox Pro HD. Maybe Sling will come out with a firmware upgrade though for the older units.

Ok, I just read the article. It doesn't say which Slingboxes it won't support, just that it will support the Solo and Pro-HD. But they may only be mentioning those two models because they are the only ones they sell now. Unless they explicitly state no support for the older models I wouldn't assume so. They have been really good with their firmware upgrades over the years.

FYI - the Pixi actually does have a slower processor than the Pre. Just sayin'.

Hello from the UK!

I read that that the Slingbox was only able to work over WIFI only. Only a Jailbroken iPhone could do it over Edge or 3G.

I hope Palm or O2 over here makes it possible to be used over 3G or Edge, because I travel alot and I am not paying the Hotel's WIFI use!

Also, if I used an app via the Homebrew folks, would that void my Contract/Insurance with O2, like it would do if I Jailbroked the iPhone?

Cheers

James

A few years ago when I had SlingPlayer mobile on my Treo700w with Verizon, I was able to use it on either WiFi or Verizon's data network. It depends on the carrier. Some carriers may not want video streaming over their network. AT&T has enough trouble with the data demands the iPhone has put on their network as is, so I wouldn't be surprised if they did that.

However, with competition today coupled with the advent of faster networks and more efficient video compression, I doubt that restriction would be in place for WebOS devices on any network.

And so i heard now that the Pre plus will have an upgraded processor -.-

Just great. And to think i was really pissed with the RAM thing.... Now i do not have words to describe my anger.

Woopiee for day1 adopters

that is so untrue. stop allowing others to tease u.
i know u don't truly believe that.

actually it's news from Phonedog.com. they where actually there. So...

Of course, there's the good side.. yay.. palm growing...

but the side that is heavier on me. I'm fucked

I could find no such claim on Phonedog.
URL please.

Looks like Sprint is getting a new Palm phone this year:

http://nexus404.com/Blog/2010/01/09/htc-wimax-and-palm-c40-phones-get-le...

Maybe it will be the Pre2, although based on the way the Pre and Pixi showed up Sprint's inventory it would lead me to believe it's something else.

Question (and please don't hurt me): Do I have to purchase the SlingBox to use SlingPlayer or can I just pay the $30 for SlingPlayer mobile?

You need a SlingBox to connect to your cabletv box and/or DVR at home so you can watch it from anywhere.

I guess if you knew someone who had a SlingBox and they gave you their password you could watch their TV. But you effectively take over their TV when you do that, so it would have to be a very good friend!

Okay Pre/Pixi owners with Sprint, please calm down. I heard that Palm will release a brand new device,code name C40, with Sprint in 2010. Heard on Yahoo-finance board for Palm. A link is there also. And i could be a Sprint 4G device. So be happy and buy Palm products and shares. All could be rich.



i = it , a typo

ok so since flash will be working on pre, and and comments are that sling box will work does. And (and I am not to versed in software) when will netflix work on pre. ( really can't wait for that)

Netflix uses Microsoft Silverlight instead of Adobe Flash. :-(

what about Netflix?! I would love to be able to stream netflix on my pre :D

Betting that's the basket iPhone's putting their eggs in?
Nah, what was I thinking. Apple & Microsoft?

I, along with my European brethren, will be sitting twiddling my thumbs waiting for 1.3.5 to land... no Need For Speed yet for us...