Unlocked Pre 2 available across Europe for 499€ 43
by Derek Kessler
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 5:49 pm EST
Tue, 16 Nov 2010 5:49 pm EST 
We’ve already noted how the unlocked Palm Pre 2 is available for order in the United Kingdom and Germany, but there’s something we didn’t notice until now: that same unlocked Pre 2 also shows up in the European Palm online store (eurostore.palm.com) for France, Ireland, Italy, The Netherlands, Spain, and even Russia. Asking price: 499.00€.
You might be thinking that this is the first time any webOS device has been available in Italy, Russia, or The Netherlands, and you’d be correct. Now if only we could get it in the US... or for that matter, the rest of the world.
Source: Palm Store (France, Ireland, Italy, The Netherlands, Spain, Russia); Via: webOS en Castellano; Thanks to hgc2002 for the tip!
43 Comments
great joke....a Pre with a qwerty keyboard for Germany/Austria/Switzerland....and this price
I think HPalm are just trying to get a feel of how much of us in the states actually want the Pre 2 and how much of us are extremely eager for webOS 2.0! Yes it's kind of a cruel way to go about it...but it's working, true? Look @ Sprint's FB page. Look @ HP's FB page. Look @ the Sprint Poll. Look @ those on AT&T and Verizon who are throwing a fit because they want an exact date. This is good. However, the GOOD will only last for so long until it turns BAD. That is what HPalm need to avoid. It's already hyped...now release it soon. For us stuck w/ the Pre, just give us webOS 2.0!
$673 US for this phone is a bit high!
You do know how much phones cost without the carrier contract subsidy, right?
I proudly give you:
Palm Pre: EUR 190
Palm Pre Plus: EUR 240
HTC Desire: EUR 390
Samsung Galaxy i9000 (EU version): EUR 440
Wellwell. Had the Pre Plus been that low a few weeks back, I might have not jumped to Android.(Back then they charged EUR 340 for the Pre Plus).
Also, the euro to dollar calca is a bit misleading due to VAT and other things. I am actually expecting unlocked stateside as low as $299 with a mail in rebate. This is becasue I see the Pre 2 as the new entry level and the Pixi, if it survives at all as the free with contract phone. The announced phone at CES will be the new flag ship phone. I also expect the PalmPad to announce at CES and ship no later than 30 days if not sooner. I would not be suprised to see a PalmPad/Pre2 bundle offer as well with tight intergration adn teathering.
All that said, if that does not happen, Rudy will likely be heading back to the beach house sson thereafter.
it's is simply too much!
Perhaps my wife will pick me up a Russian Pre 2. Would be cool.
I would expect to see some sort of rebate and promotion starting soon. Maybe even a monthly payment plan.
This is what HP always does, they sell it extremely expensively as they know there are some people out there that are willing to buy it at that price, then they slash the heck out of the cost a month after.
yeah thats what apple did when they released the first iphone. it was $600 with a contract! then like a month and a half later they dropped it to $300 on contract. i knew some1 who got it the day it came out and he was sooo upset when that happened... these days u gotta pay to b an early adopter
Gang it's an unbranded phone and they are naturally up there. This is actually prices for all phones before subsidizations.
Unbranded Pre2 in the US will NEVER happen until ATT gets its share first.
i'm getting the sense that we, as a community, are starting to run out of gas. Not happy about it, but the lack of new product information is slowly draining the positive energy I used to feel here.
Yeah, but when you add almost no value to your platform for a year that happens. A pre 2 and webos 2.0 don't make the apps suck less, just make them suck faster. I'm basically stuck with my Pre Plus until sometime next year at which point I think I can switch to something else for a higher price. Palm just isn't executing and HP isn't helping. The previous post's comments about Rubinstein ring pretty true, he basically makes promises and never delivers, and so now makes weaker, less distinct promises rather than improving performance.
Most of the really well-liked advocates of WebOS are gone, Ben, Dion, Rahul, I doubt they would leave these companies if anything truly remarkable was going on behind the scenes. I think the talented people defected and now the remaining talent is under the decision process of HP. HP laptops have terrible hardware quality, their service in support even at the enterprise level isn't great, and their software is generally abysmal (just look at HP WebJetAdmin, you think a printer company would try a little harder).
I'm basically convinced that most people that are fanatical WebOS supporters have convinced themselves that their platform is better than it truly is, or just like cheering on the underdog. I have to admit I really liked WebOS because it seemed to be less closed than iOS and more elegant than Android, but I can tell you that if multitasking is your only large criteria at this point even a Nokia N8 might be a better bet than waiting for Palm.
I'm stuck with my phone for awhile longer so I frequent these sites, but barring an absolutely incredible CES performance I just don't see myself sticking with them in 2011.
"I'm basically convinced that most people that are fanatical WebOS supporters have convinced themselves that their platform is better than it truly is, or just like cheering on the underdog."
I think you are incorrect in your assumptions of the fanatics. I think you see a lot of realism. Look at many of the comments here over the last week or so. I think that overall they are overly pssimistic towards the future of webOS.
And it's not that they aren't realistic about where webOS stands in the marketplace right now. When I got my pre on launch day last year, it was the best os available on Sprint then. Since then, the other os's have surpassed webOS in many ways. But, none have the _potential_ that webOS has, at least in many of our opinions, given a sufficient investment in time and resources for it to live up to its potential.
For me, I can wait. The most important gripes I had at the beginning are still there. So, since I've waited this long, I might as well wait a little longer. Who knows, maybe the competition will win me over.
Is the Pre 2 even a real phone? I feel like I'm being Punk'd or something. Will Ashton Kutcher pop up in a Youtube video letting us know it was all a joke? That's what it seems like; "coming months" sounds like a joke to me.
That price too steep for such device.
I love my pre plus.. and plan to change to Pre 2 to get better experience of web OS 2.0 and faster cpu. But now I think I need to think twice to upgrade my device. The price very close to iPhone 4 16GB.
I agree that its a bit high. They should just start selling this for US$499 everywhere, even as a stop-gap measure. I remember when the Treo680 launched, they sold it for $599 unlocked they should do the same with this one but at a lower price point. The idea here is to spread the device and OS and not to make a lot of money, they'll get their money if they once they establish a larger share of the smartphone space. They should be targetting 10-15% share by the end of 2011.
My only other gripe is for the Sprint users who don't have anything to look forward to, as they are the largest base of Pre users.
Everybody ; stop whining - PLEASE ! It's a Palm, and it is available. So what if the price is "very close to iPhone" (yawn) ??? If you want it, you pay what it costs and enjoy the product.
Buying decision is a reasonable reason my friend. If the price very close to iPhone 4 which have better hardware in some points, even we admit or not, then it is hard for me to buy Pre 2 even I want to "feel" the better hardware compared to my Pre Plus.
I already have Pre Plus which I enjoyed it. If I buy Pre 2 which is the price is high, I better buy iPhone 4, so I have 2 kind of great phone with its own pros and cons.
More over, I love playing games, WebOS games very slow lately. Far behind compared to on iOS. I have iPod Touch 4 for my kids to play, and I'm very very impressed with the games and the retina display.
But are paid apps available in Italy, Russia or the Netherlands?
Maybe someone should mention in the above post that this device is unlocked BUT needs to be activated! And if you activate it in e.g. Netherlands with a NL SIM than you don't have access to paid apps in the official catalog.
I don't know why HP Palm does such a crap, I buy apps with MY credit card because I must set one in my Palm profile, not with a carrier plan/bill. So why they only allow users to buy apps in countries where the Pre first launched?
Come on HP Palm, it's time to record that Europe is not a little country outside the U.S. All countries (near all) have the EURO here. Taxes? come on, they even have some local companies in different countries (e.g. Netherlands...) and don't allow customers to buy apps.
I can easily shop Android apps or iOS apps, even if I'm not sitting in this country, as long as I have a billing address/credit card from this country, so whats the point on that for Palm here?!?
The "paid apps" thing is a regulatory thing from country to country. and no paid apps is because the country in't "official" If you use an official country to register it, then it works.
It's not PALM/HP it's the gubments
Sorry, this is nonsense. The EU is a free trade area above all else. It is an absolute right to buy goods from one country and use them in another country without extra taxes or government restrictions in the EU. In fact it's the main point of the EU!
This ridiculous restriction comes from Palm's crappy app store back-end and nothing else.
"Official" in Palm speak seems to mean "we put a field in the database so developers can tick 'sell in this country' and we really screwed up because we forgot to implement "sell in all countries because I just want to make money and understand the global nature of the internet".
Apparently Palm doesn't care about what the U.S has to say about this. Way to go palm you just brought down Europe.
no comment. Lol
HA! $675 for a phone? Get real.
To be honest, that really is not that much for a phone, my Treo Pro cost 900 AUD, my brother's Porsche Design p'9521 cost 1200 euro, his new p'9522 cost 800 euro, the Motorola Aura does cost about $2000 and iPhones are about $1000 unlocked.
all my phones I bought in the past 5 years were about that price. if a phone is good, that's not much to pay for it.
Sorry, but really specifying that it is available in Russia is not true as it is not. Furthermore Russia is not in available for shipment in any of those countries where Pre 2 is available in palmstore. Russia is not even in palm's euro pages.
Sad... but it is still only a dream.
Thanks for my mention in the news. http://webOSenCastellano.blogspot.com is here to support HP (Palm) webOS among all spanish-speakers and the world!
What a nonsense.
I can't buy a QWERTZ P2 in the German Palm shop. There is just the P+/Pixi+ listed as available from O2 and Vodafone.
Please stop spreading non-news like this!
Nobody was saying you can buy QWERTZ P2 from operator. You can buy QWERTY P2 from palmshop sim-free and got it delivered in Germany
Wrong title Mr. (HP)Palm, Wrong title
Nice really nice, but "across europe" means states like Czech republic, Slovak, Poland, Slovenia, Greece too. Hm i can't see this states in europe store list.
Mr. (HP)Palm, your "Europe" is only western europe's states and one 1/3 europe state and 2/3 asia state.
I would like ask. WE IN CENTRAL AND EAST EUROPE WHEN we will be can
BUY (HP)Palm devices?
PS:sorry for my english
would be interesting to see, where Kessler got his infos from, or if he just dreamed it...
neither eurostore.palm.com lists russia, nor does http://www.palm-imc.com/ru/ list the pre 2.
its not really a difficult task to check the list of possible shipment countries
Even that list is just half of EU. There are a lot of countries missing. Shame.
europestore and the italian palm's store don't report pre 2.
the only way to buy it is going in uk online store, buy it and ship it to italy or other european country.
the european store doesn't appear to be updated
If you switch country after puttung Pre 2 is in your shopping cart in UK store, you will get it in your cart still on other's country palm shop site.
Understood! i will try!
Hummm... If come with EXACTLY this value (
IS NOT REAL!
If you follow second link on Italy Pre is only a dream, they have only Treo Pro, the oldest WinMobile smartphone...
I think HP-Palm lose many possibility, and ina few time lose also me...
PAAALM! Give us a Palm Pre 2 in Russia!!! :))))
which is the reason to buy this phone in all those countries when u can only take full profit of the market when u activate it in germany, france, usa or uk? none of the other countries has access to the paid apps, and once the phone is activated there, there is no way to reset it in a way to have full access anywhere else.
apart from this, if i go on the website of the post i get in no way any option to buy the phone, where did u see it?