Verizon Pre 2 (finally) pops up in Best Buy systems 53
A couple weeks ago the current state of things with the Verizon Pre 2 consisted of:
- Credible rumors that it has appeared in Verizon's systems for a short time before disappearing mysteriously - including local stores having to return demo and display models.
- Confirmation from Palm that the Verizon Pre 2 was still set to be released "in the coming months."
Fast forward to today and, well, we think we can safely say that the Palm Pre 2 won't be released in 2010. As for 2011, we tend to believe Palm's confirmation if only because an anonymous tipster sent in the above scan from Best Buy's inventory system. The Verizon Palm Pre has popped up there with a price of $499 attached (nevermind the 12-30-2010 date on the image). Sadly, no indication of when the phone will actually be released yet, but spotting a nest made for a unicorn is better evidence than merely hearing promised that a horned horse will appear in the coming months, if you catch our drift.
It's been nearly two and a half months since the Pre 2 was announced, so it's not crazy to wonder what the hold up is ....and whether releasing the Pre 2 on Verizon even make sense given what we hope is an aggressive 2011 phone roadmap.
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"And that's our lineup of brand smartphone new hardware from HP Palm. We're working hard to get these to you in coming months. We're all REALLY excited about these new form factors and features. And, one more thing...the Pre 2 on Verizon. [silence] Well, if you go to Verizon store and find out they have run out if the new iPhone then maybe you can take a look at the Pre 2."
honestly.. at this point I just want to get verizon to replace my pre plus with a pre 2 without using my upgrade ticket, seeing as the plus has been EOL'd & the 2 is what the plus should have been..
well since the 1 ghz processors that are in the pre2 weren't yet available when the pre plus came out, the plus couldnt have been what the pre 2 is at the time it was released. just sayin, cuz many people have said what u just said.
So Palm just skip Sprint again?
pretty much
omg people. wtf. pissin me off already. palm didn't skip sprint. sprint didn't fuckin want the palm pre2! omfg!
Sprint skipped Palm, demanding a Wimax device be next. Palm has their hands full with EVDO, LTE and HSDPA devices being made ready or developed. No critical mass for Wimax yet for a company that is promising and enterprise track offer. So if you want Pre2, gotta make a lot of noise to Sprint, who has skipped every upgraded device since Pre's initial release.
What exactly can we on Sprint do to get the Pre2 there? I understand 'making noise' but do not know where to make it.
There's nothing you can do.
Sprint has made the decision to not go the route of the minor spec bumped Pre 2
It has NOTHING to do with Wimax so people can shut up about that.
They were the beta testers for the first Pre and we all know how that went.
Get over it.
By the time this is released it will be out of date.
I said this when we first learned of the Pre 2.
well compared to the pre - the pre2 is more than a minor bump in specs... twice the ram, twice the processor frequency, a 15% increase in ram frequency, and a much more durable screen and body construction. i would say its honda accord compared to a benz E class.
i have a friend who just started workin at a sprint store. he was telling me this weekend after his first few days there that lotssss of people came in with palm pre problems. no wonder sprint is hesitant to sell another palm phone. im sure the pre 2 is a much more solid phone, but they are still not taking their chances
A team of monkey's could manage Palm better than this.
LOL Palm will continue to be a loser. Launching on Verizon? Come on now, Verizon gonna have the Iphone, All those super Droids and you really think lots of people are gonna buy a pre to even cover production costs. Didn't you learn from the launch from Sprint? You don't go with just 1 carrier. You launch on all of them and you have multiple hardware out there. Poor Palm, Great Software but Poor Hardware and Poor Business Plan.
Verizon will have the iPhone in July of 2012 so it won't really affect any of Palms sales for another 18 months.
yeah its funny. many people i know who have verizon think the iphone is coming to it this jan. but its just being announced in jan. bunch of tech noobs haha. iphone = always released in june, duh
It sure would be nice if HP revealed a CDMA Pre 2 when they unveil the Mantaray and Broadway, which turn out to be a landscape slider and Pixi 2, respectively and available on both network types.
I would have loved this phone on Sprint around the time the EVO and EPIC came out... WebOS might have more marketshare if that happened... Hp|Palm, what are we going to do with you? *shakes head in shame* You have alot of catch up to do! Pump out these new phones on ALL carriers, no exclusivity! if you have to have some exclusivity for carrier support, have be no more than 1 or 2 months.. and Sprint better get the first super phone, or that Webos-Sprint fanbase will be done (more than it already is)...
Exclusivity = fail for HP|Palm.. They need to release the 3-4 form factors on all networks and push mad advertising to get people wanting it.. you do not need exclusivity, infact it should be illegal.. Congress get on that!
I don't think having no one want you is the same as exclusivity.
is everybody seeing the inventory status? does anybody acutally think thats going to change?
HPalm is a joke. Everything takes FOREVER with them. The Pre 2 is already outdated and they haven't even come out with it yet! They need multiple form factors on all networks NOW, or they are going to fail once again.
It really is a shame that Palm has no idea how to compete in the smartphone market because the software is so much smoother and user friendly than any other available, and I've used all of them.
Curious, why do you think the Pre 2 is already outdated?
The phone's hardware seems outdated since it is virtually the same exact thing as the pre plus, which came out awhile back. It also lacks a front facing camera and voice commands and the screen size could be a touch bigger, maybe 3.7 inches or so. Video recording lacks HD quality as well. I believe voice commands will be incorporated in WebOS 2.x but that remains to be seen.
I don't know if it is outdated, its just mediocore.. its on par with alot of the smart phones out there interms of specs (i.e the 1 ghz processor)
But I agree the new phone needs to have a bigger screen 3.7-4" and needs front and rear camera and needs skype video chat (and maybe facetime?) on it.
Also Hpalm needs to buy the top 100 paid and free apps and get devs to bring them to WebOS.. wine and dine them atleast!
The hardware is already one generation out of date.
The new 800mhz processors and gpus that are in the newer devices...like the G2 or Evo Shift, which are already out, trump the Pre 2.
And the Pre 2 isn't even out yet!
camera and form factor alone.
I wonder how many of the Palm haters that posted above actually OWN Pre's...
I hope the Pre sells well. I would agree that exclusive marketing arrangements are bad for the community. The whole paradigm needs to change in the cell phone world but it isn't likely to happen in a world ruled by proprietary systems. Sprint and Verizon really need to switch to the GSM world and dump CDMA, and phones locked to one carrier should be banned.
All that aside, since no Verizon Pre+ owner is currently eligible for upgrade (Pre+ hasn't even been out a year yet), for most of us, the real question is when will WebOS 2.x be rolled out to Pre+?
gayyyyyyyyyy
I'd lay money it's the new free phone.
Wanting WebOS world phone!
THIS JUST IN!! I was at the sprint repair stoe yesterday (getting my POS Pre fixed yet again) and the employees said that the "Palm Lady" had come in the day before and let them play with the Pre2 (awesome I know). They then went on to explan that Palm is releasing 5 phones in 2011 and Sprint should maybe have the Pre 2 mid spring. Not only that but apparently there's supposedto be an all touchscreen pre comin as well.they don't know if there is going to be a Pixi 2 or if it is going to be replaced with another model yet. The PalmPad is well in the works but I think that is like their trump card or something cuz they're keeping the "Pad" super hush hush. Like Area 51 classified information Hush hush. Lol. I'm stoked though. 2011 I think will be a good year for HP/Palm on the sprint market especially with Sprint stealing customers from all it's competitors the way it is. Anyway hope you are all as stoked as I am.
Y'know, I've been hanging back since a new gadget's not in the budget for a couple months yet. But still.
Waiting over 2 months to release an announced device that should have been released 3 or 4 months sooner to begin with (at least for us minus users)? I'm patient, but this is sad.
Here's looking to 2011...
I've resigned myself to the fact that Palm and HP have gotten so far behind and led early Pre adopters on for way too long. I was a launch day pre owner, and I've been waiting and waiting and waiting. Rubenstein said 2.0 would be available for download by end of the year, and that's rubbish. I'm waiting to hear what happens at CES and expecting to upgrade to EVO, just as I should have months ago.
It's hard to read all of the disappointment here. I love my pre-. I understand the lack of patience but all the gloom and doom is unnecessary. We know that it is gonna be a while until we get some new hardware on sprint, but I promise it will be stunning and impressive. I don't agree with the battleplan for HPalm so far but I am willing to see what they have in store for us web os faithful. Relax all will be well.
-shag-
I love my launch day sprint pre. Do not live in a 4G area so as you can guess I'm not interested in paying $10 more a month for something that is useless to me. But a new device aka Pre2 sounds good to me. Hope Sprint picks it up as my pre is original one I got on launch day, and by June it will be 2 yrs old and looking to be replaced. Whatever will I pick? Played with BB curve, HTC hero, EVO, and Epic that other family member have, and not crazy about any of them. I hope Sprint is listening. Happy New Year!
It wont matter if it's released. Even if they released it on Sprint I wouldn't "upgrade" to it. I have thought that HP needs to simply WOW everyone on all aspects of their new hardware. After seeing things like the new Motorola NVidia tablet, I just don't see how HP will turn the table the way we all want.
I am truly disheartened about no pre 2 on sprint. Like above the web os fans like myself are not sure where to go next after we get tired of our phones.
"Area 51 hush hush" and the Palm Lady only told the store and the store told you and you told us .... hmmm, glad the real area 51 isn't secured that way.
Sorry to call b.s. on your story, but hey, one thing P¦C is a little light on lately is rumors...
Yea. Sure.....
HPalm laughing at how they have strung us along for sooooo long...
April 1st is new release date for...?
You guessed it.. April FOOLS.. & we are the FOOLS.....
pathetic...us or them? Go figure..
what's the point of this coiming out??!! Can someone tell me why they are bringing out a Pre +2? Is this supposed to compete with Android,or Iphone???
there are a lot of really stupid comments, and people, in this thread. it has been said time and time again that HP/Palm do not plan on making this their flagship phone nor do they plan on having it compete with the likes of iphone and android. they are simply releasing it late since it has been in development for awhile and would like to get it out in the wild. no one ever said or implied that it is supposed to be their big superdevice. those are coming in 2011. it has been confirmed. if you're upset that the Pre 2 isn't Palm's Evo killer, then you must honestly be retarded.
I love my pre +. I can't wait to use a Pre 2 & and see how it feels and operates. I am bummed by a slow 2010, but I also understand that getting sold slows things down. Can't wait for the roadmap!
I agree, there are a lot of retarded comments flying around.
I bet the Prē 2 will be the fall-back entry - which would explain why the Prē and Prē + have been EOL'd. I would even hazard a bet that the delay for Verizon and Sprint getting the Prē 2 would be demands from the carriers to make the devices 4G compatible as a prereqisite. I'm certain that's true in Sprint's case. The re-tooling probably took more time than anticipated.
I also believe that "the Palm Lady" is not so fictional. I have heard similar things from a customer service rep at the Sprint store I frequent. While the timeline has been fuzzy (November - then December, etc), the story I got is consistent with the "Palm lady" story. My guy at the Sprint store relayed that the Palm rep is VERY confident new releases will raise the bar. FYI: my Sprint guy is a confirmed Android fan.
As far as I can see this all within Palm's pattern: they raise the bar and are imitated, then fall into disarray and lie fallow while they regroup, then rally and raise the bar again.
This time their rally will be HP backed. I have no trouble believing 2011 will be a whole new year for Palm…and those of us who stay with them.
I understand frustration, but the level of cyncism I sometimes see has taken on a hostility that I don't fathom.
Let's face smartphones in general are pretty amazing, and even so no technology is perfect. For my money the webOS is the most fun and flexible one. My overclocked, mega-patched Sprint Prē does a lot of stuff and does it really well.
I'm certain HP / Palm is going to make it even better.
Are there really people who think this is NOT the flagship WEBOS device at the moment and for the foreseeable future?
It's the only device you will be able to buy on Verizon for awhile and the best you can get on ATT and the rest of the world. Even if they announce something at CES, it will take some time to get to market. Same goes for the tablet. It will likely enjoy a flagship reign roughly equivalent to what the original Pre had - six months.
pre2 will be outdated by the time is is released in the states
blows
Yeah,
WP7 is releasing 3 phones in Q1 2011... and they have KILLER specs! I mean, 1Ghz cpu, 512MB of ram, 16GB storage, and a 5MP camera! Palm will never be able to match that!!
Wait...
You precentral people have to stop buying into the processors speed as being an indicator of performance.
Just like 3 ghz processors 5 years ago don't stack up against 2.5 ghz processors of now.
The new 800mhz cores that are in the g2 and evo shift outperform, AND GET BETTER BATTERY LIFE, than the 1ghz snapdragon in the Evo.
Just one example.
Good thing Palm used the 1GHZ OMAP-3630 in the Pre2 that is twice as effecient as the 3430. ;)
Again, the same writer, this article has been posted several times. Nobody cares unless there has been an actual release.
The first time it was mentioned fine, not the second, third, fourth and fifth.
Anticipation is not fun without hard results.
Again either your in blatant disregard and Britain will be catching up with you soon or your intentionally creating a kind a mechanism to disrupt the precentral viewers. Your also justifying the allowance of crap on the forum.
I suggest you total all the information you gather over 1-3 days and post it in one article.
I have some advice for all of you instead of waiting. Switch to Android! I switched because my Pre Plus was a POS and I was tired of screwing with it. I love all the available apps and everything about my Droid 2. Best move I ever made.
And you're here because...?
(seriously, I can't understand it)
So I have a question...if Verizon does start selling the Pre2, and a Pre+ owner has a phone die or need to be replaced, would they offer the Pre2 as a replacement? The Pre+ has been EOL'd after all, so I would assume that they would, but I don't know how that would work...
Does anyone honestly even care to get the pre 2? I mean other than the gorilla screen you pretty much get nothing that you can't already accomplish by overclocking. The resolution still sucks, the screen size still sucks, the camera still sucks. If WebOS 2.0 was announced to not be released on the pre and pre plus then i understand why you might want the pre 2, but I really don't see the big deal about this phone.
I'm on Sprint and still waiting for Palm's super phone. .... sadly my patience is running out.