Verizon Pre 2 GPS doesn't appear to be crippled, huzzah! [Updated] | webOS Nation

Verizon Pre 2 GPS doesn't appear to be crippled, huzzah! [Updated] 20

by Derek Kessler Fri, 18 Feb 2011 5:26 pm EST

We’ve got good news for anybody giving consideration to the Verizon Palm Pre 2: unlike with the Pre Plus and Pixi Plus on Verizon, the Pre 2’s GPS has not been intentionally crippled. In fact, looking at preliminary reports from our forums, it appears that as long as you turn on all location services, it should 'just work.' We have multiple reports from our forums that it is in fact working like a charm. Unfortunately for current Verizon Pre Plus and Pixi Plus owners, Big Red doesn’t seem likely to change their tune on your phones, as it’d probably require a webOS update from HP to make it happen.

We're still looking for more reports and datapoints and a full analysis of what's going on in the code behind the scenes, but right now it looks like Verizon has seen the light and is doing right by your customers. Just don’t do it (it being screwing with GPS (or your customers)) again and we’ll be cool. M’kay?

Update: We just spoke with James Harris, developer of the GPS Fix app and one of the main experts on the status of GPS on Verizon webOS devices. Here's the scoop: it definitely looks like the combination of the Pre 2's hardware and updates to webOS 2.0.1's GPS stack have added up to very much improved performance for standalone GPS and other location-based services. Whether or not aGPS will only work with VZ Navigator or will be available to 3rd party apps is still a bit of an open question. If you have a Verizon Pre 2, best thing you can do is help out by visiting this thread and reporting your results. Regardless, excepting a small API bug where GPS may return no result and time out (see zhephree's excellent "How I fixed the GPS in the Foursquare app for webOS"), Verizon Pre 2 customers should be experiencing significantly improved GPS performance.

Finally, Harris notes that his GPS Fix app can still be advantageous in that it will help your Pre be aware of satellite locations and that he's working on an update to the app to make it even better. Thanks James!


It's about time they do something right by customers.

So...if it can be done...why can't it be done for Pluses running 1.4.5. Don't tell me the OS is the problem. Let's use this opportunity to ask VZW why.


They may not know this and may force a nerf OTA update.

they just haven't gotten around to it yet

is gps incuded in the price or is it extra per month?

someone should analyze the code on the Pre2 and back port it to the Pre (+/-)

If I remember - when we complained about the GPS on the Pre plus - Verizon gave us Free Mobile Hotspot. Now they take away the Hotspot and give us GPS. :( Fail!

I don't really care anymore. There is so much lack of support for my Verizon Pre Plus, including the fact that buttons dont work and it shuts off randomly. And where's the latest update?

I really want to like the Pre, but it seems even the people that made the Pre are backing away from it and pretending it never happened.

I'm sorry, but I'm ditching the Pre very soon.

I walked into the local verizon store yesterday hoping to play with a pre2 I don't have verizon I'm on sprint but wanted to play with one. Anyhow the sales manager or store manager said that he wouldn't be getting a display model because that store is able too choose which phones it gets and he said they only sold 6 pre and pixi phones lol talk about hate idk how it is in verizon stores but sprint and at&t have just about all phones they offer on display even shit ones that aren't smart phones. Lol vzw fail.

I guess this confirms what vzw said last year, that they opened up the api and it was up to each OS vendor to put in the hooks - effectively requiring a special bit of code just for vzw which is bad for everyone but vzw .

so I just opened google maps and it locked my location in about 2 seconds and confirmed this story.

thanks palm. Now I think palm owes the legacy hardware an update (like 1.5) with this fix, along with many other fixes... IMHO

Thanks for the update. Looking forward to checking this out on Tues.

So on Verizon's website, the Pre 2 is the only smartphone that shows an early termination fee of only $175. Do you think that's due to the Pre 3 already being announced? I would almost get it if I can get this confirmed and then just pay the fee and get the Pre 3 when it's released.$404...for....Pre2....

I did a webos doctor on my Pre Plus and my GPS seems to work better and I don't have the GPS fix app installed.

Sorry, they've blown it one too many times. I'll stick with Sprint.

Can you FIND me Now????

I'm still banned from the forum for no reason, the treo central email does not work.

I have random new additions to the calender in my phone. About a month ago US holidays showed up as a separate calender and today a yahoo calender appeared. Anyone have idea where this came from?

Anyhow new feature idea, up-search of new contacts on Linkedin, Facebook, google, etc... directly from contacts.

Shame it had to be until the Pre2 for it to work properly. I am among the many that are happy with their Plus and WebOS, heck even with Verizon. Really want to get the Pre3 but by that time, can you imagine what will be out on the Driod market and what capabilities those new phones will have !

Will stay optimistic till then ....

have to say that my Pre+ has waaay better gps after Uberkernal. Gets a fix almost instantly.

Nobody should be debating about the GPS function on a Smart Phone at this point. If it doesn't work or is even an issue then the phone is not really playing the role of a smart phone.

Regardless of who causes the issue, I'm not ok with that function being an issue. My Pre-Plus has always had crap gps and sometimes it takes forever to finally be accurate. Sometimes it can't even get a lock on my location period.

I shoudn't have to spend my time tweaking my phone for such a basic function to work reliably.

Patching is cool, but not for basic functions. Thats bs