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by Derek Kessler Tue, 28 Jul 2009 11:50 am EDT

If there’s any one technology that has the potential to revolutionize the way we communicate with our phones at work and home and in our pockets, it’s Google Voice. Started as GrandCentral and later acquired by Google, Google Voice allows you to have one phone number that rings through to your cell phone, work phone, home phone, and any other phones you specify. You can even filter how your phones ring by contacts (your mother only rings on the home phone, your wife on all phones, and your mother-in-law goes straight to voicemail), which are shared with your Google Contacts and Gmail contacts. Google recently purchased a large block of phone numbers nationwide and sent out invites to those who had requested access to the closed beta program.

Beyond that, Google Voice also offers online voicemail recording and forwarding, voicemail transcripts, call screening, personalized-by-contact greetings, and more.

So what of the Pre? Right now if you want to use your Pre with Google Voice, you have to call the Google Voice number, select the contact you want to call, and the server will do the rest. Calls to your Google Voice number will go to your phone, but if you call out from an on-phone contact it will give your cell number as the caller ID instead of your Google Voice number. This is frustrating, but there can be a better solution - an app to handle those common phone functions and present your number as your Google Voice number properly.

Blackberry and Android owners can get apps. iPhone users, well, they've just been blocked out of the service thanks to Apple's insanely terrible app policies (Update: sister site TiPb chimes in on the debacle: Apple has removed all Google Voice apps from the iPhone).  Seems like a good opportunity for Palm, doesn't it?  Do you want such an application for webOS? Of course you do. Mosey on over to Google Voice’s suggest a feature page, scroll down to the mobile applications section, and check off Palm Application.  Hopefully Google will make it and Palm will accept it and you, friend, will use it.

Of course, if you're using Google Voice now, might we recommend a visit to our homebrew pre apps forum?  If you mosey on over there, you'll find that flpalm has already created a dialer app for the Pre you can install today - Gdial. There's also dkGoogleVoice from d0lph1nK1ng.

Thanks to cujoe for the tip!

46 Comments

I have GV and I love it!!! Now I get to take my "home phone #" with me no matter where I am! Way more convenient that vonage.

I hope there is an official GV app soon.

It doesnt matter what palm does, if the carrier says no... that means no. A few people might getit (like in the HB Scene if google were to release it). But officially if sprint said no then its a fail for google.

I am sure this is one of the main reasons for the ATT iPhone. Carriers want you to use there service and pay for there overages, etc etc...

unlike AT&T, Sprint has NO incentive to block GV.

while iPhone owners once again will be told how to use their devices, luckily it wont matter with Pre.

Really?? Try plugging it into your computer to charge it and take a phone call. Then tell me that Sprint isn't telling you how to use your device.

you must not own one & only be here to troll, because with it plugged in you can still receive calls. its only when in USB mode that you cant.

besides, thats an actual technological limitation. what AT&T is doing is not, it is purely financially motivated.

move on...

Also unlike AT&T, Sprint hasn't banned apps that would bog down their data network. I can run full quality youtube videos on my Sprint 3G while i know my iPhone friends have to be on wifi to get the non crappy mobile version of videos.

So that is why we can download Amazon MP3 purchased on EVDO (he asks sarcastically.) :) We I guess I can, but it took a little work. :D

you mean, when i'm using gvoice, i'm not using sprint's service/minutes? i assumed i still was. this wouldn't work without a carrier plan, right?

if you call google voice then have it make the call yes, it would use minutes. But I think a final app would be a voip solution no?

But then my question is why call a number to only have it call another number. Sounds kind of repetative to me, especially when you would still use plan minutes, or if you already have unlimited calling why waste your time? It makes sense from a computer, but from a phone.

Thats just my thought.

You would call one number before calling another number to take advantage of Google Voice's features not provided by cell phone companies, like showing your Google Voice number on the caller ID (to prevent companies from getting your cell phone number) or maybe eventually recording conversations, which I think can currently only be done for incoming calls.

And the "call one number, then have it call another" method has been a common way to get around telephone company monopolies since the early 80s when MCI and Sprint first offered alternative long distance service. You called a local access number (or an 800 number if you weren't near a city), put in your code, and then the number you actually wanted to call. In those days, the incentive was long distance rates that were less than half that of AT&T, who had a monopoly on long distance. Eventually, they got enough customers to be able to lobby for "dial-1" access on the same level as AT&T, which by that time was broken up into a bunch of little companies anyway.

These days, it's to provide features other phone companies can't or won't. When Sprint or Vonage will email me a transcript of my voice mails for free, then I guess I won't need Google Voice anymore. (Not even sure I'll keep Vonage much longer, since the only reason I switched my home phone to them was to get my voicemails emailed to me.) Until then, I'm funneling as many of my calls through them as I can, Google paranoia notwithstanding.

With the apps in place (and working in the normal method) you dial the phone number from the app, it gets submitted to Google via data, and then Google calls you and connects to the other end. Really useful if you have an unlimited incoming plan...

Cool idea. The question is, once you've gotten everyone to start using your new Google Voice number instead of your cell number, how much will Google decide to start charging for the service?

I do want Google to make a Pre app but what I am really hoping is that this forces telephone/cellular carriers to shape up and add some of this functionality to every phone line.

Need to get the Pre more open so power apps like this don't slip by. Coddle this Sprint, be the Wireless rebel and change the industry on your terms.

You understand that it makes more sense for sprint to not allow this correct?

I think they would love a GV app that uses your minutes. Calling a land line costs you your minutes. If you were to call mobile-to-mobile, thats free. I would think they would want you to us up your anytime minutes and get charged overages.

Yes I guess if it was not VOIP I could see it being ok.

Did it make more sense for Sprint to give weekends free, start evenings at 7PM, 6PM, free mobile to mobile minutes, offer unlimited data for 15, unlimited service for 99?

If Sprint wants to survive, they cant follow conventional wisdom, they have to attract customers and differentiate themselves. If ATT has to follow suit, it will kill their overloaded broadband.

Minutes have become largely irrelevant. If you have people on the hook for 30 in data each month, that would have bought a ton of minutes otherwise, you still have a paying customer, one you didn't give to Verizon or ATT.

Just got my google voice invite last night so pretty excited to see an app developed for the Pre. Also pretty trepidacious about how long it'll be before they start charging.

Google voice request for Palm Pre sent!

Little OT.
Skype's compatibility is available for Palm Pre!
http://www.palminfocenter.com/news/6793/im-for-skype-webapp-for-the-palm...

I have to say, for some reason I wasn't blown away by Google Voice. I've been waiting for it since last year, put in a request for an invite last Summer. But in the mean time; products such as Vonage and more recently for me, Jott; have caught my attention, and my wallet.

I did get my invite, and signed up, but I'm not really using it, nor do I see a large use for it right now. For me anyway.

I personally don't care for google voice. I just want the visual voicemail and voicemail transcription features on the pre. That would make me happy.

I'm still waiting for my invite.
It really would be a feather in Palm's cap to officially support it. I've been playing around with Mojo - would be fun to poke around and see if it is relatively easy to put a wrapper around it.

AT&T blocks GV because they want to stick it to you with text messaging fees (a GV app could send an receive texts outside of AT&T's system). They also want you to pay extra if you want detailed billing, which you wouldn't need if you logged everything with GV.

Sprint wants you to buy an unlimited text/data plan (and forces you to if you use a Pre), so they'd probably be happy to have you text outside of their system (see Boost Mobile text message issues).

Assuming its not VOIP, I can't see why Sprint would block a Google Voice app.

AT&T blocks GV because they want to stick it to you with text messaging fees (a GV app could send an receive texts outside of AT&T's system). They also want you to pay extra if you want detailed billing, which you wouldn't need if you logged everything with GV.

Sprint wants you to buy an unlimited text/data plan (and forces you to if you use a Pre), so they'd probably be happy to have you text outside of their system (see Boost Mobile text message issues).

Assuming its not VOIP, I can't see why Sprint would block a Google Voice app.

Please also add a request for voice recognition for making a call to Google contacts. That's what I did. I think Google Voice would be an invaluable gateway for all my calls if it only had voice recognition for making a call.

I personally don't care for google voice. I just want the visual voicemail and voicemail transcription features on the pre. That would make me happy.

Instead of sending email to Google, it makes more sense to send webOS GV app requests to those developers who just got blocked.

The sadder thing is that web access to google voice don't even work on the Pre. The webpage is www.google.com/voice/m for mobile access. The website open fine but when trying to play the visual voicemail it croak. The audio format must be something the Pre don't like.

The sad thing is that Google should be doing this and tapping into the Pre. I have a feeling all their apps now are going to be through the browser, transparent to weather it is a Pre, or iPhone. In other words, they wont take advantage of the Mojo SDK. Just think that it could essintially know where you are based on where your cellphone is, and only ring the phones within the vicinity of you cellphone. It could give you visual voicemail with notification too. And an onscreen display for all the crazy dialpad options you have when talking, like start recording, transfer call, etc.

I want to port my current cellphone number to it, and get a magic jack for the house.

I had grand central so of course I now have google voice after it was acquired. There was an app for the Nokia 700 and 800 internet tablet so I'm sure if someone with enough programming skills can port it over it would be great. The thing about the 700 and 800 was it wasn't a phone and you don't always have internet connection. With the Pre, this would be awesome. Now I don't know why Sprint would have a problem with it because the everything plan includes everything anyway and it wouldn't take away from sprint at all. It would only make it more convenient for people to have a portable phone number. I should have went with Android, it would be a lot more open than Palm and definitely the iphone. If Nokia ever create a Meamo phone, I'm in.

I've been with Grandcentral for awhile now and since Google's acquisition more than a year ago, there have been a lot of great improvements to the service. It's a great service if you have a small business and don't need to get an actual line.

The article made it seem like your cell phone's caller id displays on the person's phone that you are calling. That is not true. If you dial from the Google Voice page from your phone or from your computer, it rings your phone first, then dials out displaying your Google Voice number on the caller ID.

yes

good timing. got my gv number last week, but have yet to actually use it.

This service has many privacy concerns - when you read the general terms and conditions, you realize that you have no control over your phone records nor the content of your conversations. So you have effectively given Google all your personal phone number contact connections and the topic matter of your conversations. If it looks too good to be true, it probably is... While I like some of the features, I would rather use a provider like www.jajah.com and pay some money to have a less creepy provider handle my voice calls. I use Gmail and Gtalk but voice is a bridge too far for me.

Palm needs to get their top people to program an official GV app ASAP, then get it into the sprint advertising as showing how Palm and sprint are into innovation and giving the people access to the BEST Apps

If would be a great PR move and really make apple look bad.

And then finish the advertistement by saying "...and by the way the palm web os 1.1 update also restores sync with itunes!"

Suggestion sent. I have been on GVoice for a week or so. Absolutely revolutionary to telephony. I find Apple to be quite ironic that they would veto such a App. Sad day for iPhone users for sure... Unless they are jailbroken which most users I know have done .

Suggestion sent. I have been on GVoice for a week or so. Absolutely revolutionary to telephony. I find Apple to be quite ironic that they would veto such a App. Sad day for iPhone users for sure... Unless they are jailbroken which most users I know have done .

it's not close to the top of my lists of requests. i'm much more interested in a better music, video, contacts manager for windows, visual voicemail, i'm still trying to figure out how to play music, put the pre in my pocket and not have it skip songs when i walk, playlist integration, better video support, some apps would be nice, ability to delete apps pre installed apps, more intuitive copy and paste system. flash,

You can avoid having your pre skip a song while walking by simply locking the device. The music will still continue to play.

oh i figured there's a way i just hadn't figured out how to lock it. Mostly cause there's basically no manual. my crap samsung phone from 2003 had a thicker manual. but i was used to a dedicated hold button. And i haven't got quite down the mechanics of locking the pre correctly. but i havne't used the music player in a few days either.

Amen. The Pre is a great phone but it has a long way to go, and I worry Palm as a company doesn't have the resources or ambition to tread that far with it.

I have a question:

I just received my google voice invite and set it up with my palm pre line. I'm not on a simply everything plan so my minutes are counting. But, I also have the pick 3 add-on in which I add three numbers from any carrier to have unlimited talk time with them. I added my google number as 1 of those numbers, so will I basically be having unlimited minutes, especially with using the Gdial homebrew app that someone released that dials your google number and then the contact you choose to call?

Yes, if u configure GV to display your GV number for caller ID as opposed to the caller's information. That way incoming calls will appear from your GV number...i'd suggest setting up call screening to screen callers since you won't have their number displayed on your phone. On the other hand, GV website will have caller's numbers if avaialble should you need them.

When I try to play a message in dkGoogleVoice by clicking on GV, I get an error message. When I try to play my voicemail through the GV website for mobile, I get an error message that says, "There was an error playing the file."

Is it possible to listen to gv message on the pre????

Thanks,
Brian

Question:

Can you use google voice to make a wifi call, similar to skype? For example, while traveling outside the US where Sprint coverage is not available?

Thank you