webOS 1.4 screenshots: video recording, improved call log, and more (Update x2: Video & More Screenshots) 545
Thanks to the early seepage of webOS 1.4.0 to some GSM Pre owners we can show you what some of the improved aspects of the update look like. A lot of the changes are under the hood, but Shadow-360 of the UK has posted in our forums several screenshots of the newer and recording-er Video app, as well as new options in the reset screen and a much-improved call log that gives you more options and info on your missed calls and sorts calls by caller. Additionally, Media Sync has disappeared from the plugged-into-USB options (no surprise, and no loss since iTunes sync hasn’t worked for months anyway) has been turned off by default, but can be turned on in Settings. As we already heard, Blink Notifications come enabled out of the virtual box this time. Check out some more screenshots after the break!
Update: Also after a break, a video recorded on the original 1.4 Pre in Vietnam by Tomi666. Check out how well it renders the splash. Shadow-360 is also continuing to post more screenshots in this thread.
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sweet! I am waiting for my copy!!
Sorry about the battery guys hehe -.-
More screenshots added of video uploading options (not logged into facebook so no option shown)
Email app improved, sort by, sync times, sync options, etc
No worries... good stuff! I am so jealin right now...lol
by the way, bonita piscina!
Yes I have had the same prob. I have to go to Preware to get my updated, I wish this would get fixed.
Media sync can be enabled in device info guys, sorry, should have stated this
Has anyone been having the same problem as me? When you go to update it says there are applications update but when you go there is no sign of any applications that needs update.
yea, has been happening for quite a while. Must be something server side though because there has been no recent software updates....
Please search for the thread I started about this, it is most likely an app that you have deleted that got an update, you will need to download tht app again.
I've had the same issue, but i'm sure it will go away when 1.4 drops. I won't be checking for updates every 5 minutes. Can't wait for 1.4!
The current work around that worked for me:
1) Open the App catalog.
2) Click on the shopping bag (bottom right).
3) Begin updates.
I didn't have the problem until I started updating official apps through the Preware update checker. I can NOT repeat or confirm this suspicion. Anyone who does not have Preware but still has this problem can easily debunk this suspicion.
Do we know what time(in each respective time zone) that the upgrade is dropping??
-W
his battery is almost dead. Should of charged while it was updating!
oh I'm so jealous
I'm only jealous of the pre plus, but I don't want to pay verizon prices. I can, and have waited for updates, but I don't think 1.4 will fix many memory leak problems. So I'm really waiting for pre 2, complete with more RAM
me tooooo
video recording looks cool
lol, time to charge the phone Shadow!!! hahaha
Media sync worked with older versions of itunes. Guess that's broken now since media sync isn't an option anymore.
I was thinking the same thing! That is too bad...
Wait... what?! Is that a real thing? Is Media Sync really gone?
Damn I still used media sync with my iTunes since i never updated iTunes. Why would they remove it... Is there a way through a patch to re enable the MEdia sync??
Me too. I am still using iTunes to sync. I use an mac, but I haven't updated iTunes so that I can keep using it. Does that mean I'm out of luck?
It's one thing for Apple to break the sync with updates, but it's another thing for Palm to break the sync with what was a sync-able version of iTunes.
Same here. What was the point of removing it anyway? To me it seems like work they didn't need to do.
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Media sync can be enabled in device info guys, sorry, should have stated this
I'm betting a patch can easily be made by comparing the differences in 1.3.5.1 and 1.4.x. However, that patch would have to put back in code that is legally Palm's, so that is a little sticky.
Me too!
It stinks because now i have to teach my wife something else.
Guess it'll be doubletwist.
Haha. This sort of thinking is always a secondary criteria in the back of my mind when looking at gadgets. Also, have to add father-in-law's probable reactions in...
crap! Now I'M upset.
If they removed iTunes support they dern well better come out with an app that syncs art and thumbnails the way iTunes did.
There is no easier way to get music and video on the Pre that iTunes.
BAD PALM!
Where's my Supersonic?!
Um....not bad Palm but bad Apple. They pitched a fit with the ITC and the ITC ruled in their favor.
Who "pitched" first? Apple followed up just to prove a point. So, yeah. Bad Palm.
Relax guys, it's not gone, just disabled. You can reenable it in Device Info
I think I'm going to go with server store of my music and use the Grooveshark App
You know maybe you people should get an iphone, one of the reasons I got a pre is because I HATE itunes. Why do i need software when I can drag and drop?
+1 I totaly agree, I hate itunes! drag and drop is freedom! However for some reason the artwork wont display in the music app but will appear in the pics app. :-/
I hope that gets fixed sometime
I've got the artwork botg places. I did go through itunes to find a lot of the artwork tho, cause it automatically attaches it to the mp3's, and then I just dragged and dropped em into my pre
I've got the artwork both places. I did go through itunes to find a lot of the artwork tho, cause it automatically attaches it to the mp3's, and then I just dragged and dropped em into my pre
but... I could never figure out how to get playlists from itunes into my pre, but I never media sinked it. Does itunes not make a file for playlists? I could never find it
Download Media Monkey. It's free, and has a tagging function.
I've not had to use Itunes in 3 months, and all my artwork shows up where it is supposed to.
WinAmp w/the ML_Pod Plug-In works PERFECTLY, as well, for syncing Music and multiple playlists with the Pre!
If syncing is gone, to me isn't that important. It's contacts and appointments which Synergy does although I would like more control over the process than to have every account sync with duplicates on the phone. It's like Apple pushing a meme when it's really about turning everything into an iTunes client for subscription services. Just because everyone bought into the model doesn't mean it makes sense. Even on my blackberry I used the Media sync like once. I'd say use a modified version of Samba to allow mounting of your media over Wifi with a little gui to set it up. I have it set up and its better than tethering the phone. What a headache.
So if I install this update then how would I remove the songs from my Pre I synced with iTunes? And isn't the only way to use playlists by way of itunes sync?
Shadow-360 wrote that the media sync option is still available. You just have to go through phone info, I believe.
Like shadow360 said "Media sync can be enabled in device info guys, sorry, should have stated this"
Media sync is still there. It is just disabled by default now but you can turn it back on.
Sprint HQ is on my way to work this morning... I should stop in! Maybe now Pre
Guess I'll be hitting that updates button periodically all day. Nothing in NYC as of 8am EST. Nothing but more snow and "work-at-home" status..haha.
yea today is going to be pretty unproductive for me because of these...geez thanks Palm! (but in a good way...lol)
I can't believe it's still snowing. And I'm still at work.
Waiting with baited breath.
The fun part about these updates are trying to see what other under the hood improvements they've done. Can't wait
I stopped updating iTunes so I could keep the media sync with my pre, guess I will no longer be able to do that. I wonder if someone will create a patch to allow such syncing since that still worked as long as you didn't update iTunes.
Or...you know...get a better media manager that doesn't try to lock you into or out of anything.
Winamp, Mediamonkey, Windows Media Player, Doubletwist, and plenty more work just fine.
I don't want a "better" media manager. I use OS X and I use iTunes everyday to manage all my iPods and my pre. I use it to listen to music and watch videos. I don't want to have to use two programs. This is a very very bad decision by Palm.
Use doubleTwist. Works under OSX together with itunes. You don't need to change the mediaplayer. iTunes rocks und Mac OSX. Thanks to doubleTwist I can sync my Pre and use the newest version of itunes at the same time without having to use 2 media librarys. So don't get pist download doubleTwist. It's for free ;)!
dude hakeem, dont be a dick, he was just trying to help you out. and thanks for the tip JuJulian, i might start using double twist now! haha
you can use whatever media manager you like, I like using iTunes and it was working just fine for me. I didn't ask for your opinion on what file manager I should be using, I wondered why Palm would get rid of something that worked and if it could be fixed with a patch if it is truly gone. If you have something responsive to that specific query, please let me know.
Everybody take a deep breath. If you would scroll to the bottom page George10 posted the following.
> Additionally, Media Sync has disappeared from the plugged-into-USB options (no surprise, and no loss since iTunes sync hasn
That is the case, i can confirm it can be enabled
sounds like a dumb place to put it. since when is media sync device info?
+100
*POST TROPHY WINNER!*
Add Songbird and Rapsody to the list as well. ITMS should be the LAST choice unless you belong on TiPB. ;)
I use doubletwist. Great piece of software.
Something tells me that media sync could be in that little "info" button to the right of the USB, I cant imagine they would totally ditch media sync for those of us still using an old version of iTunes! Doesnt Double Twist work with mediasync too? (Wasnt sure, I havent tried it yet)
From my experience the pre does not sync properly if not in media sync mode. Album art and playlists give trouble.
I have my Sprint Phone waiting for a Update and get My Verizon Pre Plus today..
what about paid apps?
Europe. Next month. We've known that for months. http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&ct=res&cd=2&ved=0CBIQFjAB&url=...
I'm so excited, & I just can't hide it!!!
I'm about to lose control and I think I like it!
Maybe with the new 1.4, I won't keep having the Install problem with the App catalog. I recently had to use webOSDoctor because my phone mysteriously "Signed Out" of the Palm Profile. Lost lots of data cause apparently Palm's backup wasn't really backing anything up. Anyway, I used an older version of webOSDoctor then updated it back to 1.3.5.1. Since then, I've been trying to get some of my apps back but some from the apps catalog (like the Weather Channel) start downloading, the Pre states that the app has been installed but the app catalog shows its still installing. Then when I check the launcher its not installed...grrr..anyone experiencing this issue?
man this looks so freakin cool!
Thanks Shadow 360.I was waiting for someone with the update to show us the goods.Question;Did you leave your patches installed?
Tapping foot, twirling thumbs, sweat on brow, sighs...where's mine! Lol
how bout the people that DO actually use media sync???? Damn... way to go palm. Keep pissing on your clients. Im sure its gonna go great next gen.
Remember who you should be angry at. I'll give you a hint: Rhymes with Crapple
It is one thing for Apple to change future updates of iTunes so they won't work. But it's a completely different thing for Palm to break something that WAS working.
Snapple? But they make their product from the best stuff on earth!
I'm wondering if anywhere in this comment thread or in a forum thread if someone is tracking where, when, and how many webOS v.1.4 downloads...How many so far do we know about...saw a list of about 10 earlier, but that might have been how many countries had at least one known download. I'd be interested to hear that the volume of 'roll outs' is increasing exponentially.
Tapping foot, twirling thumbs, sweat on brow, sighs...where's mine! Lol
GoGadget has been my syncing method of choice .....works well and is reasonable.
Still waiting for 1.4 in WI on Sprint. Batteries issues are no more for me (Seidio extended with freshly converted Touchstone extended battery cover!
You have a how-to to link parchance? :)
Damn I still used media sync with my iTunes since i never updated iTunes. Why would they remove it... Is there a way through a patch to re enable the MEdia sync??
No Media Sync, I was using this option quite happily with WinAmp.
Should still work with Winamp. Try to sync in hdd mode. There should be no difference...
Check this out, Apple doing gestures on the iPhone soon?
http://www.tipb.com/2010/02/25/swipe-pause-play-iphone-camera-gestures-a...
And this has what to do with the Pre 1.4.0 update?
I dont see any "gesture" thread so I thought it would be nice to share. Apple catching up on Palm?...
anyways sorry if it bothers you so bad.
It doesn't bother. Simply doesn't belong here.... There is a forum by the way.
Dude, who gives a S**t about the iphone...
Any speed improvements??? Is the phone app snappier????
Soooo, does the video recording have live preview. I basically gave up on Precorder because you couldn't see what was being filmed, and the videos saved less than 1/2 the time. I was certain that Palm's official version would be better after 9 months of dev time, but now the screenshot shows a white screen with a record button and reticle. What's the deal?
I hope that is just to save battery until the rec button is hit
I'd imagine that the video overlay doesn't show up in the screen capture. Kinda like hitting print screen while you have a video playing on your computer.
It has live preview. It is pretty similar to current photo taking. Just instead of taking a shot, it's taking a video.
No voice-activated dialing, and Palm wonders why the Pre isn't selling.
do people even use voice dialing these days?
ABSOLUTELY for people who are not comfortable at all calling somebody while they're driving. Not only do we not have voice dialing, but have you ever actually tried to dial a number without looking at your phone? It's hard to tell where your fingers are on the physical keyboard and there's obviously no physical feedback on the screen's buttons...
voice dialing would be a great feature, but i'm sure the lack of it isn't causing the pre's sluggish sales. Chalk that up to an non-competitive marketing plan.
I talked a lady here at work into the Pre. She loves it, but would like to see the voice dialing feature too.
Actually I do. I travel alot in the car so voice dialing is a must. I have just been getting by for the time being without it. Still would like to see it though.
I have a work around for the non-voice dial. Buy an Acura with Handsfree Link (tm). I was bummed at first that the Pre didn't have voice dialing, but I was able to use that to convince my wife that I needed a TL Type-S. I can voice dial using ANY bluetooth enabled phone.
/sarcasm
Although, I would guess that other bluetooth systems (the visor mounted ones I mean) would have this capability too. Otherwise, I saw somewhere that voice dialing is a feature that will be coming to the Palm Pre soon.
How do you fit the acura in your pocket. Does it come in handy when your in the store. I bet you get one big headache when it is strapped to your head. I could go on and on and I should because that is the stupidest thing I have ever heard.
Note the "/sarcasm" at the end of the first paragraph. That means "end of sarcasm" meaning that first paragraph was a joke. Now who feels stupid?
Notice it says 3G on top
Just a cosmetic change for those that got confused over "EV". Nothing to see here.. move along.
It is a GSM Pre, isn't it?
We had the 3G icon since day one (in Europe)
Wow, holy crap. The Pre doesn't do your dishes either. My Treo did voice dialing along with other phones I had, it wasn't fool proof. Why bother?
I hated voice dialing on any other phone I used and never used it except in the car. I used to dial the wrong number so many times. In any case, for the Pre, wouldn't you rather voice activate the universal search rather than some lamebrained run of the mill voice dialing hack? If you voice activated the search, you could load contacts, run apps, dial a contact, and eventually do all sorts of neat things that you can pretty much only do with your stereo turned down in your car or in the countryside. But that takes a little work, but I'd be happy to wait for it.
Wow, holy crap. The Pre doesn't do your dishes either. My Treo did voice dialing along with other phones I had, it wasn't fool proof. Why bother?
enough is enough palm, we need details on 1.5 already!
OK, I use Media Sync with Mac OS10.4. When I use USB mode, I cannot find any music or video files or folders of the music I loaded on with Media Sync. I imagine I will be stuck with all those things on my phone. What can I do, aside from deleting all my media, and putting it back thru USB sync. And what about my playlists?
I still think there is a chance its still there under that "i" button next to the USB Drive.
Ok EU folk. Stop ur complainin about paid apps. You get a great FREE update before those of us stateside. Who cares about a few items ya gotta pay for :)
hm i wonder if just the "media sync" button is gone, and the clever homebrew patchers could stick it back in there, or if they have removed all the underlying code that initiated that connection. maybe homebrew can restore either way. may be worth a donation...
Stop hating on he Pre. You need to give the Pre it's proper respect that it deserves. I'm so looking forward for the New update. All good things come with time!!!!!
It took Apple a few years, for the Ipone to be what it is today.
It took Palm less than half of that time to get the pre to do what is dose today.
If I could only play the updated video on my pre!! Lol
Maybe MEdia sync is removed for GSM Pre's. I hope that is the case. We'll see soon enough if Sprint and Verizon Pre's have media sync removed. If they do OMG I will be so mad. IF they are removed in CDMA Pre's any chance of getting a PATCH to re enable Media Sync??????
This is awesome. Any word from our overseas friends if the Classic app still works? Just curious since is was way broke with a previous update.
If I could only play the updated video on my pre!! Lol
Well the video looks pretty sweet!
Doesn't play in the built in Youtube app?
Did anybody with the update have any issues with installed Patches? Did AUPT work?
whoever has it before it launches has to Doctor it (i think) I had too, so it removes patches anyway.
Compares to first "Palm video" from Tomi666. With enough lighting, the video quality looks fantastic!!
> Additionally, Media Sync has disappeared from the plugged-into-USB options (no surprise, and no loss since iTunes sync hasn
Pretty sure you cant. I have 1.4.0
EDIT: you can!
Shadow-360, are you confirming that You cannot Re enable Media Sync via Device info?
EDIT: YAY Shadow-360 has just confirmed that you can infact RE ENABLE Media Sync via Device Info! Case Closed!
video is amazing on it, the whole UI is much snappier while in apps, phone app (most important) is much faster, web pages do not "refresh" when returning to them ect. There is much more under the hood I think...
I keep reloading this page to read you all. How many of you have a google wave account? Might be cool to imbed a wave into ea. article, for live comments/discussion......except it doesn't work on the pre :(
any chance that it has ICQ on board? please say yes...PLEASE!!!
i'll say yes, but it doesn't :( sorry.
at least you tried -.-
Whoa, there are really people that still use ICQ? Wow.
we do in germany... here ICQ is the most used IM service... followed by MSN and Jabber...most germans aren't too fond of google
media sync works in USB mode now I think. Didn't try it yet, but everytime I put it in USB mode, it opens iTunes
yea so it sounds like the baby bottle pops can be put back on the shelves...
I know. (funny)
cute kid
Any Canadian Pre owners able to get 1.4 yet?
wow that's actually really good video quality.
Sprint in NC - no update yet. I can't get any work done because I keep hitting the update button.
Thanks for sharing Shadow - 360! Very kind of you to take the time and show us the screen captures.
Thanks! :-)
hi there. i am another "EU folk member" from good old germany. glad to read the excitement on 1.4. can not wait to have it. palm rules, rubinsetin rules and at the moment absolute no news to find out when 1.4. is available in europe. i hoped today because last time (1.3.5.X) we waited 10 days longer then you folks. aarrgh, this is awfull. while palm has more than one carrier know i hope we will be glad soon. vietnam is cool: sun, pool...and 1.4.!
Backing up my Pre via USB drag'n'drop to my laptop now. Gonna write down all my patches, ERP it, and get ready for the patch!
WOOOOOO!
Glad to hear that you can re-enable Sync. I never used it myself as drag'n'drop is better than iapplecrap any day, but glad for the people that like this kinda stuff.
Update will not mess wiht your files on the "USB Drive" and if you loaded your patches with either Preware you do not need use ERP on it with the AUPT updates that the folks over at WebOS Internals did. Not unless you are just being extra, overly and unecessarly cautious.
I work in IT. We back up EVERYTHING.
:)
Do some screen captures (orange-sym-p) of your patches in PreWare and you'll have a record of them in your photos app.
Well HEY!
No WeOS Updates, but Pandora has FINALLY gotten past 1.0.0 with an update to 1.0.1! Not sure what it is, but it's there!
Yes, Humby. Same problem for me. Says I have updates to install and doesn't show them or let you do it.
what about flash? Ok video recording is cool...but lets be honest...its something that it should have already came with...the flash beta is what i want to know about.
No "upload to facebook" option for video recording?
LAME!
I'm not logged into my facebook that's why, too busy setting everything up :P