webOS 2.0 for Sprint images leak, voice-dialing coming to webOS! 92
From a leak we feel dubious about to a leak that looks solid, Engadget has photos of webOS 2.0.1 running on a Sprint Pre. Exhibition mode is here but not fully working yet - just the clock works now, but more modes like photos, agenda view, and Facebook are in the works.
This version is "Barley" with another called "Barleywine" in the works, both codenames we've seen dropped before. Apparently the OTA update won't come until the whole shooting match is updated to 2.1, which lines up with the 2011 release rumors we've heard as well.
Looks like all the Sprint custom app are here, with one addition called "Sprint Music Plus" that we look forward to never using. Also, it looks like there is a new voice dialing feature! It looks like the feature will search for contacts as well as accept straight-up numbers for those of you who actually remember those anymore.
Source: Engadget
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sweet!!!
loving all this news.
Voice features are critical these days.
Text to Speech and Speech to Text please.
...and voice Search "Just Speak" ;-)
Critical? Hardly. Not one of the smartphones users I know ever uses voice dialing or any other voice feature.
With my old "feature" phone I used voice dialing with my BT earpiece whenever I was driving. I feel like despite the smartphone I've taken a step backwards with regard to this. I absolutely will use voice dialing when it becomes available.
I often have to contact people while driving (Business owner) and it's just not safe to have to look at the phone and interact with it to get a call out. I use my car's AUX input to listen so voice dialing would truly be hands free.
For us Californians, it's a must.
you need to get out more and meet some folks! :-)
Finally. This should have been in there from the beginning.
There's also an image with the HP logo as the boot logo. I guess the new devices won't be Palm-branded?
I was thinking the same thing. I could see them phasing out the Palm brand in the new year. Just my educated guess... Although I don't think its a good idea.
The OS is HP Web OS...
Thus the bootloader would be branded HP.
HP owns Palm and their devices now, and WebOS will be on many HP devices.
Thus, it would not make sense to have a Palm branding at the beginning.
Im speculating, but I think WebOS will be branded HP, and Palm devices branded Palm, running HP WebOS.
A Palm device running HP WebOS makes sense in the branding world, whereas an HP device running Palm WebOS or two separate versions of WebOS, one Palms and one HP's does not make sense and brings about a feeling of the dreaded "Fragmentation" monster.
"Palm branded?" Are you kidding me? Here's what you need to do. Go to any Sprint store selling Palm equipment and ask them what their true opinion of Palm's latest entries are. Don't try to argue for webOS, just listen! Palm's name is shit among merchandisers of the webOS family. They need a fresh look,so why not give HP a swing at it. Honestly, I think the biggest mistake HP could make would be to allow Palm's name to show up anywhere on any device!! Palm has reputation of being late with features and dragging their asses in the sand with respect to technology advances. And, as an initial adopter of the Sprint Palm Pre and webOS, I agree with palm's perceived reputation! Palm, move over and give the HP name a shot at it! Seriously, you have driven your own name off in a ditch!!!
Exactly. Meanwhile, HP is an established brand in the consumer computer space, and much more easier for people to recognize than Palm. I haven't heard of people being shafted by HP, so they don't have the same negative reputation that Palm has.
Yeah because HP's smartphone reputarion (iPaq) is so much better than Palms.
Sprint is just a small percentage of Palms reputation. Up where I am Palm has a pretty good reputation.
There is Palm life beyond Sprint, I swear it.
Somebody call a plumber... we got a lot of leaks today :-)
This definitely screwed over someone(s) :/
PLEASE let voice dial work over bluetooth!!!
I don't see why not playa...
because voice dialing didn't work with bluetooth on the PalmOS smartphones, so it was essentially useless (at least it was on the 700p, and I don't think anything changed on the 755p... no idea about the Centro, but why would it have been different?).
this voice dialing and other voice functionality better be the real deal... android is already WAY ahead when it comes to voice.
I'm a long-time palm phone user (Kyocera 7135->Palm 700p->Pre+), but I've about had it now with the lack of features and apps. If I don't start seeing some real improvement soon, I'm getting off the bus.
having owned both, I promise you that voice dialing over BT did not work on either the 755p or the Centro.
Let's hope it does on HP webOS 2.1!
OMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMGOMG!!!!! NERDGASM!! =D
I know everyone else has it... but I'm pretty psyched :)
Awesome! Cant wait!
I love leaks, but we still aint gettin it till february....
just you watch.
I really hope this is out while it's still winter in Chicago. It's a pain in the ass to have to take my gloves off to make a call when it's 10 degrees outside. Does this mean voice texting, Shazaam, and other microphone toys are coming too?
How many "looks" can be crammed into a single paragraph?
So does this mean Sprint is actually going to carry the new 2.0 devices???
Unfortunately, not necessarily. It could be that they plan to continue releasing software updates to existing devices, but no plans to carry any new HP hardware. For now, I'd just be happy to get 2.1 on my phone
Unless that other rumor that the PalmPad will be running on Sprint's 4G network turns out to be true...
I think this means they will have updates for existing Pre and Pixi users.
They *might* have the Pre 2, but it doesn't look like they will be a US launch partner.
Looks nice. Here's hoping it's a webOS native feature, and not some variant of the subscription voice dial for Sprint, or the subscription Nuance Voice Dialing.
"Attention all naysayers who said that the carriers have abandoned HP-Palm...
...S*CK IT!!!! :D
That is all...
:D :D :D
I've never said that carriers have abandoned Palm but I don't see how a leak of webOS 2.1 on a Sprint Pre is relevant to the argument. This could be update testing for the Pre-. I think you got a litte too excited prematurely. You should probably wait until you actually see a carrier announcement of a release of a Palm device (other than in France)...
otherwise this falls under the "I'll believe it when I see it" category like Mojo, Exhibition, voice commands (not just voice dialing), the PDF viewer actually working, etc.
The device looks a Palm Pre, not a Palm Pre2:
The article clearly states its 2.0.1 running on a sprint branded pre bro.
Sad how tonight I made a final desision to take Radio Shack 99$ offer on the Evo, I feel if HP just told us whats coming out and when I would have waited but you snooze you lose!
... and haste makes waste.
Should have taken control of your emotions instead of letting your emotions control you. It's one of the behaviors that differentiates humans from the less evolved species.
Oh please...
@taran510 don't you worry, while the webOS loyalists still wait for the new OS to be release you will be enjoying voice recognition and so much more on your EVO. Congrats!
Micro usb wall chargers are pretty cheap, be sure to keep many on hand. Although the EVO battery life is supposed to be amazing in 'paper weight mode'.
Envy is a very powerful emotion.
I believe the emotional response would have been to wait while the logical response was to get the Evo. There is nothing logical about sticking with webOS at this point. Consumer loyalty is an emotional attachment...therefore your point is moot.
Seriously its $100 I still got my Pre and when or if HP thinks its a good idea to give the people what they want, I can walk into any Sprint store and get my phone switched back to my Pre, but for now I guess andriod, until HP gets its head out of its ass.
This must be a post 2.0.1 beta, because I have 2.0.1 on my unlocked Pre2 and it has none of those things (exhibition, voice dial, etc.). Since it is just leaking now, I am guessing we won't see it on our Sprint Pres for a month.
I think that's why the article is calling it '2.1' rather than '2.0.1'.
I agree but im hoping that whatever new phones are announced next month. They will be running a new version of webos. Something along the lines of 2.2-2.5
I have a feeling that 2011 will see webos becoming a serious contender. I believe HP is ready to come out swinging and if the rumors about webos 2.5 are true then i really what to know about whats in it.
Omg Omg Omg.. About Time... Finally
+1
I REALLY WANT this to happen but unfortunately I will NOT hold my breath on this one!!! we ALL know that if we hold our breath we would ALL have DIED by now on different "things" that got leaked that we haven't seen or that took MUCH longer than originally stated! Don't get me wrong I still have a Sprint Pre and am waiting, we eligible for my upgrade on 9/1/10 and I still have my Pre (though it is my 6th one) :D Also bring on the palmPad SOON!!! I want one!!!
I sure hope they change that color of the voice dialing/search screen.. That has got to be the ugliest blue ive ever seen. Make it black/gray or a different type of blue but please not that one. It doesn't fit in with the elegance that is webos.
I think the same color is used for phone dialer app. I dont think its so bad. I guess you could always skin it if you dont like it.
I thought the phone dialer app was green? Isn't the lock screen that blue color though? Lol i've had this all black theme on my pre for so long that i've forgotten what stock webos runs/looks like.
Yes its green in the current version, I was talking about in webOS 2.0 they changed it to blue.
it's green (and an ugly green) in every version through 1.4.x
I believe that it is blue in 2.x, and this screen shot is the same blue I recall seeing in webOS 2.x reviews.
if palm was keeping everything strictly to the "river pebble" idea, I always figured the green dialer must have been intended to look like the scum that collects on rocks in slow moving water.
and if that's what they intended, they nailed it.
Bring on the leaks!! FINALLY!!! ;-)
Winds of Change...
Voice dial would be nice. My old dumbphone had it and it was very useful.
I had voice dialing on my Motorola V710 back in 2004 and it worked fine. When the Treo 700P came out, I switched over to eliminate carrying 2 devices (phone - Organizer). I miss voice dialing that worked.
let me guess its coming out the same time flash for webos is comeing out talk about beating a dead plam horse
plam? who's that? :-P
Flash is included in Web OS 2.0 so yes indeed it is. Please do research before dropping the collective IQ of our community.
best. Post. Ever. LOL
Good post.
yes that is true because flash is a part of 2.0
Hope webOS 2.0 comes out around CES time. So we Sprint Pre users get to play with it while we wait for new devices to be available.
Proof that 2.0 is coming with mic APIs. Just because it isnt available for developers NOW doesn't mean it wont be when the SDK is released to the public.
Awesome, I will be waiting for Just speak with webOS 2.3
One step closer to installing a tablet doc so i can use it as my car radio!
One step closer to installing a tablet doc so i can use it as my car radio!
im so glad this was leaked, I was hanging by a string and now that string is a more like a secure rope
Don't hang yourself bro! It's not worth it!
Finally some good news.
Hoping for a dedicated physical voice function button: "Call Home", "Locate Ice Cream Shop", "Facebook status 'Going to store to buy a new Palm phone.", "Start " People like fast.
Here comes Santa Claus, Here comes Santa Claus........I want to believe.
Its time to sell my iPad now and get in line for one of those shiny new palmpads.. its about time too because i hate that freakin crappy no signal getting joketasking pos. hopefully voice dial will work pretty good and better than sprint navigation. most of the stuff sprint makes is crap but we will see.. something is better than nothing. imagine how beat us pre owners would be without sprints nav.. BFG works good but we have no real option for turn by turn. i used the linux nav it but it was way too buggy. id like the dev to keep working on it though. awesome idea. love the leaks. i felt like i was dying going day by day with same old same old.
This better not be a joke.
I'm just about ready to trade in my Sprint pre for an EVO. (Mostly because the hardware is falling apart) but if 2.0 is coming to sprint soon i'm holding on to this POS hardware for the amazing OS it runs.
We already rode out the droids, the evos, the nexus s is now here.. Heck why would u buy an evo now? Evo II is probably around the corner. You waited this long. Good things come to patient little boys and girls :)
Really, the Evo is what, six months old now? That's ancient technology in the smartphone world, as everyone in the comments reminds us on every article.
so Verizon users should expect this in what november?
At this point in the mobile phone arena, voice dialing should not be an exciting feature if that is all it is, just voice dialing.
if this addition is as far as it extends, then it is still not as modern as hp/palm may want the world to think, look at Android. That should be the benchmark for voice features, nothing less.
As a loyal Pre user, I am not impress!
has anyone checked an android to see what their voice dialing apps look like?
I don't want to find out that this is just a great job of photoshopping...
it happens all the time for quick internal presentations, so I hope this didn't come from someone at HP but is unconnected from any knowledge of webOS plans.
I hope someone can post back that this app doesn't resemble any android or blackberry apps.
RE: Exhibition Mode
Am I the only one that wishes it can be turned off completely? Ya know, a totally off/black screen? It's rather annoying to have to drape something over the phone when it's on the nightstand next to my head when I'm trying to sleep at night.
M.
Mode Switcher in Preware has the option to do this.
i believe there is a patch to disable that. i know there is one to keep the phone always on.
FINALLY.. A post worth reading.. Now this is good news.. Thanks for lettin me know that its actually in the works...
Just posted some new data from our app logs. 2.0.1 spotted on Sprint, ATT and 2.0 on Verizon Wireless
http://forums.precentral.net/showthread.php?p=2803970
I used Sprint Music on my Sanyo SCP-3200 a year ago, it was awesome! Gald to see it coming to WebOS!
"Gesture Tap for Just Speak" patch?
Whatever HP does, we can do better.
Well FWIW, I am hoping that Ruby (Bell) gives us 2.0 as a Christmas present! They've done a pretty good job of staying tight-lipped so far, so who knows?! Wouldn't you love wake up to THAT notification on December 25th?
that would be an awesome Christmas present but for Sprint users :D
Ha Ha Ha. I love you guys. You're so much fun. Every 2 or 3 months, the vaporware crew spews something out and you are immediately drooling all over yourselves as if the greatest gift EVER was actually in your hands. Sort of like TEA Party members who start realizing they're being used and then someone yells Patriot and they all fall in line. Yes, I still have my Pre from launch day (okay the 3rd replacement) and will wait and see what goes on. You make me believe that Sarah Palin can be president.
Another "leak"...another rumor. That's all we get these days...no substance or delivery of ACTUAL product, either software or hardware.
One-and-a-half YEARS, and we still have 4,951 apps...WP7 is out 2 MONTHS and has 4,000 already.
In March, they'll put off the update because it's not ready, or some other lame excuse to keep us hangin' in there and paying for plans with a dinosaur of a smartphone.
Can't wait 'til my contract with Sprint expires!!!
Voice dialing?!?!?!? What is this, 2003? My dumbphone Samsung had voice dialing. This isn't a feature worth reporting. It should have been in 1.0.
To be completely honest....i feel like I am being ripped off. My Treo Pro (RIP) seems to have more functionality than my Pre. Don't get me wrong, I like my Pre and the WebOS system. But I'm now getting voice dialling, he ability to work on docs and more. C'mon...we should be step for step, maybe couple paces ahead with Android, the fruit (Apple) and crackberry. But we're not.
well when I'm in a blizzard and my keyboard and touchscreen are frozen. I hope my voice dialling works...believe me, in Toronto (just like the guy Chi-town) voice dialling will come in so handy.
hurry please!
This is so sad. I used to be on the reader side of things, but now that there's an NON-DISCLOSURE-AGREEMENT that all developers sign before getting access to this kind of information, I understand the developer side of things.
This kind of leaks, I mean, real screenshots of NDA covered software, is what is hurting the Palm - Developers relationship.
I really hope Palm catches the person who did this.