webOS 2.1 download posted for European Pre Plus (Updated) 65
So much for being cancelled, eh? HP has posted the webOS Doctor for webOS 2.1 for the German version of the Palm Pre Plus. The download, spotted in our PreCentral forums, is real and legit and, well, here. Germans: rejoice, then download the doctor to your desktop, back up your phone, hook up your Pre Plus, and get updating. Everybody else, donate to WebOS Internals and wait pensively for them to decide whether or not to tackle the FrankenDoctor to see if it will work on other devices (Update: Rod Whitby says they're looking into it).
Details are still coming in, but there's a full PDF detailing what's new in 2.1 and it most definitely includes flash along with all the other 2.0.1 goodness we already have. We're seeing exhibition mode here, plus all the rest seems to be: Just Type, stacked cards, improved Synergy, the new launcher, and more.
Will HP release the doctor for other devices? It's unclear, but hey, at least the original story we reported from HP was true and so was our earlier report that it would happen.
More details as we get them, in the meantime hit those source links for all the webOS 2.1 chatter you can take.
Update: PC user rot reports that the App Catalog for 2.0 is also working. Update 2: Precaution in our forums says it's working on Vodafone as well.
Update 3: Rod Whitby of WebOS Internals is already digging and it looks like this doctor is hashed for "carrier ROW" (Rest of World) - which means it should pretty much just work across Europe on the Pre Plus. Whitby and co are definitely on the case with the Meta-Doctor, though, so stay tuned, US users.
Update 4: Looks like Flash is not included for the Pre Plus.
Source: Palm Download (only works on O2 DE Pre Plus), What's new PDF;
via PreCentral Forums 1 and Precentral Forums 2, @twtomcat, @o2inside
Thanks GuyFromNam!
65 Comments
I kinda new this would happen. Good on you, hp!
Hmmm ... I'm on a Pre Plus Vodafone device here in germany. What about us?
I asked Vodafone on their facebook page, they said updates for devices won't happen that are no longer sold. But they promised to ask again, if it is possible that the 2.1 update will be made available.
Hey, check here http://ws.palm.com/WebOsChecker/serialnumberinitial.htm
My german vodafone Pre Plus already got the Update :)
Does it mean that the Palm Pre (the original, not the + or the 2) should be upgrade to webOS2.01 ?
I think no, but I have a dream....
Thanks HP for your consideration and making this possible for the pre+ users on 02. And thanks to 02.
I also have a Palm Pre Plus Vodafone Germany, but my Provider is O2 Germany.
I think it won't work to get the Update from O2, right?
Does anybody know if Vodafone Germany also gets the Update?
Well, I'm sitting here with my Palm Pre @ O2 Germany and getting a little bit frustrated. Bring on webOS 2.x for my Palm Pre (HP/Palm or webOS Internals)!
http://twitter.com/#!/webosinternals/status/39997023469969408 ;)
I also have a Pre-! And I want it too!!!!
NOW HP are liars... but in a good way... if thats possible...
Any euro GSM pre plus will work, i am sporting it on my O2 UK unlocked ...
Therefore, your device will not receive a webOS 2 update. The latest software version for your device is webOS 1.4.5.
Your current device:
Palm Pre on o2.
:(((
now we just need a pixi update...is that too much to ask for? At least we're making some headway!
anyone noticed the date on the doctor? it was already finished 20 days ago.
i for my part can't keep secrets about gifts for that long :)
palm pre original outside US...the Godforsaken device (bought from o2...unlocked...working on 3 Italia)
Are they saying I can throw away my Pre minus??
If so, just say it clear. ;)
Now the Sprint Pre- please...!!!!!
Since there are no huge differences between Pre minus and Pre Plus other than the extra memory, I expect that a doctor for the pre minus should be pretty easy to come up with once we have one for the Pre Plus.
Does anyone know if the old upupdowndownleftrightleftrightbastart still works under WebOS 2 to enable developer mode so we can put Preware back on our devices?
You will need to use the Meta Doctor for the Pre- and afaik you can activate Dev-Mode by default with it ;)
Pre - on O2 UK HP to? :) seems a bit unfair.
Great 02!
now can you do the same for european pixi plus users?
or if not a lesser version with flash and some of the usability improvements seen in webos 2.
i love the form factor of the pixi and don't want to change my phone in order to get an update that was said to be coming to device anyway.
You won't get flash on the pixi because it's an armv6, and flash requires a v7. Maybe some sort of gimped "flash lite" but not flash 10.1, but yes, some form of webos2 for pixi would be great!
will this work directly on the o2 uk pre plus? forgive me, but will it also read in german?
(super excited)
targon - works and preware installed ;]
I ... LOVE ... U ... PALM!!!!!!!
Can somebody confirm if Flash is working?
It's not like Flash is working... youtube webpage-player behaves weird (buggy), Flash-site I tried simply showed me the old known "plugin missing" icon.
What does it say that lately all updates and phones seemed to be getting release outside of the U.S. lately? There has to be a reason for it but for the life of me I can't imagine what it is.
Donate! Donate!! Donate!!! Most people are asking for webOS 2.X on their Pre (-/+) and I know Rob Whitby and Co are working their butts off to make it happen. Let's show our real support by DONATING.
I just donated US$200 instead of buying a Pre+ to convert my Pre- because I know this community will do more and more for us in the coming days of this webOS 2.X update saga.
Please DONATE and show your real support for webOSville :-)
Thats generous! But we all know they deserve every penny they get — and then some.
I guess if I can have 2.x on my Pre Minus, I'd have to donate again. 8o)
I have doctored my Palm Pre Plus SFR with the o2 Germany jar from the forum link.
IT WORKS!!!
CAVEAT: profile data cannot be restored! Setting up a new Palm Profile does work, as does everything else so far. It'll pull my Google Contacts, Calendar and Mail all right, and I will reset it again once I hear HPalm fixes profile restoration, to get my apps and other settings.
Thanks for doing the right thing, HP and Palm!
Copy/Paste is not working. The apps freeze for about 10 seconds if text is selected and the menu is accessed, or when text is selected and the Copy shortcut is invoked.
False alarm. The system was actually quite slow, probably because it was downloading and synching contacts, calendar and mail from multiple accounts. Things are back to normal now.
The "O2 Update" is for Vodaphone Germany, too. From the palm.com/webos-infos page for my serial:
"Vodafone UK subscribers:
The latest software version for your device is webOS 1.4.5.
Vodafone Germany subscribers:
A webOS 2 update has been approved for your device.
Go to palm.com/rom and follow the instructions to put your device into USB Update Mode, and proceed to install the latest version of webOS. palm.com/rom: get update"
The WebOS-Doctor Page from palm let's me download "webOS® Doctor™ for Palm® Pre™ Plus for Vodafone. Build Vodafone.296.284, webOS 2.1.0" which leads to the exact same download file. ;)
Does anyone know if AT&T Pre Plus users can download this? It should be possible....
I've waited long enough for the update to 2.x. I would get a discount on a Pre3.
"this doctor is hashed for "carrier ROW" (Rest of World) - so stay tuned, US users"
Is Canada considered "rest of world" or are we just a part of the US??
check your device infos on the "additional infos" page.
in my device, the first line in the network paragraph says "ROW"
I'm really happy for you folks in Europe! But I am bothered by the "who" and "why" of this update. I have a Verizon Palm Pre Plus that I'm under contract with until May 2012 (Jan 2012 for early update) and I except for the GSM and CDMA issue between Verizon and OS in Europe, I don't see a difference between the two. And yet when I bring up the Palm Checker, it says that my device is "not able to support the new features of webos 2"? How can this be?? I got the same device as the "approved" devices in Europe. I am thinking that the fault lies with the carriers themselves. I'm under the impression the Verizon, if they wanted to, can definitely get off the duffs and have the update given to us Palm Pre Plus.
Not to mention that I believe its a lie when the info checker says that my device can't handle the webos 2 and yet they are, by their actions, telling Europe that the same device can indeed run webos 2. End of Rant. Go Webinternals, Go!
I'm in the same boat as you. Locked in until Jan 2012. Hopefully the Pre 3 will be out on Verizon by then.
HP this is a good start. Now bring the update to all Pre+ users in the US. You do remember where you live don't you. U S A !
For all answers related to what devices you can flash with the O2 Pre+ webOS 2.1.0 doctor, please see http://bit.ly/webos-210-meta-doctor
-- Rod
the palmcast tonite should be a good one ;]
Honestly, even if they get it to work on the original Pre I doubt I will upgrade. The SOFTWARE on my Pre is working great as-is. It's the phone that is really starting to grate on me now.
I am tired of this form factor, and was hoping for something different, either a slate or a landscape slider. And on Sprint, no less.
Sigh.
I'm in the same boat. I was wishing for something more like the EVO or Galaxy S line. Maybe they aren't done with announcing new phones though. There is always that hope.
I think this confirms what I suspected which is that HP had the update ready to go but the US carriers borked it.
Assuptions...
I wish luck to all Pre-, Pre+, Pixi- and Pixi+ on Sprint, at&t or Verizon! Be patient brothers and sisters!
Will all my texts/sms get lost when i update to 2.1 with the webosdoctor??
I would really love to keep them. How does it work? Thanks, guys!
Now would be a good time for HP to make a statement on webOS 2.1 support for existing devices. It sounds like they may be working on a version for the U.S. If the statement is affirmative, then we will wait for a version of the Doctor for the U.S. carriers. If not then they are tacitly giving WebOS-Internals the go-ahead to hack a version. Either way we win.
This is just a temporary solution until the Pre 3 is available.
Is this HP/Palm releasing the doctor for the purpose of getting our older phones updated? Or is this just them releasing the doctor like they always do and hackers using it to update themselves? Id rather have something from HP/Palm themselves and not lose my profile.
They're on it & so is everyone else; the developers are truly thanked.
Hi
I have reading this post with delight until i saw that Flash was not apart of the release build. Can anyone confirm this is true. Also i have a pre+ O2 UK and was wondering if anyone here has tried to flash their 02 uk pre+ with the German webOS2.1 update.
hey all,
gud mixed news from the uk. Managed to update UK O2 Palm Pre Plus to v2.1.0, everything seems to be working apart from one thing. My profile is signed in and synced but not everythings moved from the account onto the phone, so got no old messages or any numbers in contacts.Dont know if this was the same error as reported earlier in the day. I have all of my apps that were on the phone, also all my music and photos.
No flash on this version which sucks as i thought thats wat webOS 2.0 was gona be about. Voice dialling is on the phone and seems to be working. App store seems ok, though not much on there. Haven't tried reinstalling Preware or any patches from that yet.
Phones running good, seems to be gettin better the more i play with it, so all in all, not bad. Though cant believe we had to kick such a fuss just to get this update, as playing with it, u can see it was never a hardware issues in terms of y it was not launched earlier. So best of luck for all u Pre- owners.
Now hoping theres another update or fix of some sort so i can get my old profile info back otherwise time to start again :(
Hi Baljit,
can you post a brief guide as to how you upgraded your O2 UK pre+ as i am currently trying to do the same using cygwin and meta-doctor. question. Is meta-doctor even required?
no problemo.
started by putting the phone into usb update mode. The following link tells you how to do so:
http://ws.palm.com/webosdoctor/sorry.htm
Downloaded the webos doctor file from the source links at the top of the page and simply ran that (presuming you've already got webos doctor on ur machine).
That should be everything. have fun and good luck!
Thank you. I was about to start using command prompt to update. was fretting over having to dust off some programming books. Now to start playing around with this. once again thanks.
I'm on a Pre Plus Vodafone here in germany.
Upgrade on 2.1 went smooth and after waiting a few hours I even was able to log into my 'old' account. Nice!
The phone is much slower tho' than it was in overclocked govnah mode on 1.4.5. Looking forward for kernel updates.
Cheers Jens
Successfully updated pre+ O2 UK to webOS2.1 using German release last night and i am loving the OS. Though Flash isnt apart of the update :-(, i am still liking the improvements. As of any issues, non to report so far as my profile completely recovered though i have lost all my messages and for a brief moment the volume keys and the speaker stopped working but a quick restart fixed those. In terms of performance, the battery life is a bit better but i am putting this down to the fact that my phone is no longer OC'd for the time being but the OS has made the phone a little nippier in certain areas and slower in others. Also i have read certain people are having problems with the app catalog, but mine seems to be working fine atm. I will though report any issues if i find any. Also does any one have any ideas about Flash??
Fingers crossed...
O2 Pre Plus from the UK...
I am installing the Web Doctor 2.1 from Germany, and am at 42% in the install...
Ohhhh.... the Suspense!
HP logo comes up...
I think it worked...
Wow.
Just.
Wow.
OK. It installed without a hitch.
A few caveats:
I think it runs a tiny bit slower than 1.4.5.
I installed Preware, and the patches which make a Pre such a great device do not seem to be available... This isn't so much a surprise, but an observation.
I found the patches very handy.
this maybe a silly question but is there a virtual keyboard in this build of 2.1.0?
No Flash? Really?
yep no Flash but from what I have been reading in the forums O2 Germany uploaded the wrong doctor, the version without Flash, so maybe there will be another doctor released or if O2 UK release a doctor then their's might have Flash. One thing I have noticed is that websites that have a Flash vi embedded, previously b4 I upgraded to webos2.1, when I interact with the video, the youtube app would open and play the video. Now however, when I interact with a video, all that happens is that the reload button on the browser becomes a cancel button as if to cancel an action. I don't know if this is new but its the first I have seen it.