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The webOS Wish List: Online account management 20

by Derek Kessler Wed, 01 Feb 2012 6:21 pm EST

Here's something we've been practically begging to get for three years now: online account management. Today, if you go to hpwebos.com/account and log in with your webOA Account credentials you get just a handful of options. You can view the devices associated with your account (no more than one phone (a topic of a future wish list item) and however many TouchPads you have on that account) and the ability to take those devices and remotely wipe and lock, boot off your account, or secure the appropriate webOS Doctor. That's it.

If this stuff, along with your apps, were the only things associated with your webOS Account, we'd be cool and write about something else today. But that's not the case - with a webOS device you can have your Calendar, Contacts, Memos, and Tasks all backed up to your webOS Account. Even though they're all stored in the cloud, the only benefit you get from that is that they're backed up in the cloud. They key to cloud data is that you can access it in multiple ways, be it from a mobile device, a desktop client, or even directly through a website.

We're not looking for a desktop backup solution here - it's 2012 and we've moved beyond that. What we are looking for is the ability to manage our webOS Account memos and contacts through our browsers. This isn't iCloud-level stuff - we're not asking for backups of our app data (though that would be greatly appreciated), photos, and music. All we want is to be able to get online and easily import a vCard full of corporate contacts or copy a lengthy passage into a memo or update our tasks list. That's it. Oh, and to take advantage of the cloud and sync all of this stuff between devices on the same account. It's nice that a new TouchPad downloads my latest memos, but why can't changes be synced back to my Pre3? Hmmmm?

Have your own thoughts on this wish list entry? Of course you do - the comments are below. Surely you have your own ideas as to what ought be on the webOS wish list, and so we've created a forum thread just for what is sure to be an awesome discussion.

20 Comments

This is a timely post! I just (like five minutes ago) copied all my Pre contacts to Google and deleted them from my Palm profile(s).

HowTo First Step:
Temporarily Remove your Google contacts account from your device.

Then:
Install http://www.webos-internals.org/wiki/Patch_Contacts_Send_All_via_Email -> Restart Luna

Then:
Open contacts and click the newly added menu option to export all your contacts to an e-mail message and e-mail them to your Google account (preferably one with no contacts or one you don't mind mixing all these into). It will come as an attachment that will have an automatic link to import them to Google. Click the link to import and merge them all.

Next:
Delete all your Palm Profile Contacts at one time

- For a Pre-2.x device (pun intended)
from a shell/term prompt ->
Do this:
http://forums.webosnation.com/palm-pre-2/309035-deleting-all-palm-pre-co...

- For a 2.x and later:
from a shell/term prompt ->
Do this:
http://forums.webosnation.com/webos-synergy-synchronization/278043-delet...

Last step: Add back in your Google Contacts account.

+1 on multiple phones, it's annoying to have different accounts between the Veer and ^3

+1 also on memos on my Pre making it to my Touchpad-- I'd like to see that taken even further, with all my apps being able to share data-- why can't my unlocked Angry Birds levels move between Touchpads? Why do I have to manually add my new locations to all my weather apps?

The Kindle has spoiled me, I now expect all my apps to act like that.

I completely agree. This isn't the cloud, it's just free backup. I want to control more from and online account.

in every effort to try and keep webOS relevant, the crew over at webOSnation.com are simply posting wish lists, what'if's and anything else that will show the remaining webOS faithfuls that the mobile OS still matters.

classic guys. classic

I disagree. I have been one who has laughed at the unbridled optimism around this corner of the internet too. But in the case, it is a Brave New World for webOS and you never get anything unless you ask for it. I see nothing wrong with this and in fact think it is exactly the opposite of what you are saying.

Attempting to make webOS relevant would be screaming all its wonders and joys from the top of the mountain (which you do see here too). In the "wish list" type articles they are pointing out some of the biggest flaws, or complaints, that people have with webOS hoping that these issues will be addressed.

Another +1 on this from me, everything syncing across my devices would be excellent.

Because many (most? all?) of the TouchPad apps were written using Enyo, they should be able to set up essentially a virtual TouchPad on the web where you can interact with the main bundled apps (mail, FaceBook, Calendar, Contacts, etc) and data the same way you can on your device -- now that would be very cool!!!!

Hopefully, HP will open source those Enyo apps ASAP so developers can start having some creative fun with them like this, as well as getting them running on other platforms so that all the platforms can use the apps and contribute code back to the effort.

That is a hot idea.

does HP and ASAP ever go together?

Other than when they are shutting down certain product lines, getting rid of items in their warehouse or switching CEOs, no.

i think we dont have folder lock.. that ll be great addition

Not sure why anyone would want to tie up their data in a proprietary cloud that would have limited or no interoperability with other platforms.

I am desperatly waiting for the ability to have more than just one phone in my account! At least one of each kind would be great! I don't want to pay double for all my apps!

"We're not looking for a desktop backup solution here - it's 2012 and we've moved beyond that. What we are looking for is the ability to manage our webOS Account memos and contacts through our browsers. This isn't iCloud-level stuff - we're not asking for backups of our app data (though that would be greatly appreciated), photos, and music. All we want is to be able to get online and easily import a vCard full of corporate contacts or copy a lengthy passage into a memo or update our tasks list. That's it. Oh, and to take advantage of the cloud and sync all of this stuff between devices on the same account. It's nice that a new TouchPad downloads my latest memos, but why can't changes be synced back to my Pre3? Hmmmm?"

(crickets...)

That's why you should buy devices that fully support SyncML/CalDAV/CardDAV/iCalendar to be used in syncing with your ubiquitous Google or (much better) services like memotoo.com or Zimbra/Funambol.

Given that the TP doesn't even allow tying in external calendars in such a way (besides Google/Facebook/Yahoo, but hey it's my private data so _no_ Google et al), it's not surprising at all that you cannot even access your data with a browser on the HP site.

Shows just as well what webOS and it's "ecosystem" is still lacking in 2012, and hey, yes, "it's 2012 and we've moved beyond that".

EDIT: My 2006 Nokia N73 did all of that, with scheduleworld.com. Thankfully, because open standards exist and are supported, at least in Europe. Even older devices back in 2004 could do such stuff.

I just want to get HP to stop "backing up" my devices without my consent. The site is pathetic, and it randomly changes my TP account to Italy and my name to Andrea. I first
posted this last June:
http://forums.webosnation.com/hp-touchpad/306239-touch-pad-changing-coun...

I just want to shut it off. I can backup anything I need to on my PC.

You can. Open the Backup app and switch to off.

Also have, you tried contacting HP support about this?

It's not really a general solution to this wishlist item, but for memos at least I'm very fond of Rimen Cloud Memos, in the App Catalog (for WebOS phones). Allows you to view and edit memos on phone as well as on their website. As far as I know there isn't a Touchpad version, but you can use the Touchpad web browser to go to the website.

Of course it's only for memos, while this wishlist item is asking for the same thing for calendar, contacts, etc. But if you use Google sync you already have much of that capability; for me memos is the biggest need other than calendar and contacts stored in Google. Of course there are other memo apps besides Rimen.

You guys are late this has been around for a long time i always use it.

What is late? This is a wish, not a description of a service.

I was hoping for this back in 2009. I thought that was the direction Palm was taking this. Now that it's 2012 it's a bit late. It looks like Palm is going to be the next Newton -- supported by evangelicals and parts on ebay. I wish I was wrong.

Bought a Galaxy Tab and a Kindle Fire in 2011. My wife replace her Pre+ with an android phone a few months ago and I replaced my Pre+ with one Saturday. The Google ecosystem is getting me much closer to what I wanted in 2009 (and before) than Palm did.

Android is not perfect, but the cloud services are there. WebOS was a better OS, but no ecosystem.