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The webOS Wish List: Scrollbars 19

by Derek Kessler Thu, 11 Oct 2012 8:38 pm EDT

The webOS Wish List: Scrollbars

Scrollbars. Seriously, it's 2012. We've had scrollbars since the Xerox Alto in 1973. While the purpose of the scrollbar has changed in the intervening four decades from being the driver of continuous page navigation on keyboard- and mouse-driven devices to merely an indicator of said page's length and your place in said page on touchscreen devices like smartphones and tablets, the scrollbar is still an important piece of the modern computer user interface. When webOS launched in 2009, there were no scrollbars present in the OS, despite scrollbars being present in both the competing Apple iOS and Google Android. And thirty-six years of preceding computing.

webOS did gain scrollbars eventually, but in a most limited fashion: only with webOS 3.0.5 on the TouchPad, and only in the browser. Nothing in any of the other apps that support scrolling, which is practically every app ever, including most of the built-in webOS apps. And while scrollbars have been added to webOS smartphone apps via a handy patch, we're talking about Open webOS going forward here, and it's just silly that scrollbars aren't present throughout the OS. They fade in when you scroll, fade out when you're done, and give you a useful bit of information as to your place in the page along the way. What's to hate?

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I'm using a Palm Pre minus, I'm on Webos 1.4.5 and I have scroll bars...what are you talking about? It's available to download from the Preware app store.

i believe he means without a patch.

We need the scroll bar that android has in the contacts app and the like where you can drag it down and it jumps between letters. I think the iDevices do it too and it's really useful.

We seriously need that!! HP!! Just take the patch and implement it through the OS!!

Although I remember reading that Apple got a patent for scroll bars in iOS. We all know how much of a patent troll Apple is!!!

They could find a way around it and there are other phones with scrroll bars without infringing on apple's intellectual rights.

Enyo 2 has scroll bars.

I feel scroll bars are ripe for a breakthrough

Scroll Bars would be nice, because what we have now is a "Position Indicator". It's not a scroll bar unless you can scroll with it.

Amen brother!  I wanna be able to grab the @#%@#% thing and scroll with it! :)

Enyo 2 Has built in scrollbars in its scrollers, if I'm not mistaken.

While we're on the topic of scrolling, does anyone see use for ChiralMotion? It's a feature on Synaptics touchpads where you can start your finger with a scrolling motion, and then move off the area and start making a circular motion, which allows continual scrolling without taking the finger off. I remember seeing somewhere that it intended to be featured on mobile devices, but I haven't seen any that implements the feature.

is that something that could be implemented via Luna CE? Also what could be implemented on the pre3? And we really need something on the pre to be able to move the cursor. Trying to get to the first "I" in this post to uppercase it is a pain. As you can see I gave up.

You can move the cursor on all Pres (that is plural Pre) by holding the option button and then using a 2nd finger on the screen; the cursor will replicate the movement of your finger.

Wow thanks I never new that and I've had a pre sense the first sprint launch pre. Good to know.

I'm okay with, dare I say prefer, a passive scrollbar or just a "position indicator" as long as there is a quick way to get to where I want to go. I'm thinking that a faster two-finger scroll (as some have suggested before) or a double-finger "invisible scrollbar" would be great.

Don't care for scroll bars, all I really want is a way to jump to top and jump to bottom. The current visual one is ok with me. But if I have no choice but to have a scroll bar in order to jump to top or bottom then so be it! Just feel less is better, visually.

I just wanted to point out that Sparrow, my twitter client, has had a position indicator (commonly referred to as a scroll bar on touch mobile devices) since day 1 ;)

This may get shot down but in for a penny et al..., has anyone suggested a vertical take on the Wave Launcher? I.e. Letters 'A' 'B'..... selection in the Contacts? I'm sure it could find its uses in many other Apps. What do you think?

A-FREAKING-MEN, brother!
this might be my #1 pet peeve in webos
there should be scrollbars on *every* screen of every app
it is SO awful when for whatever reason I lose my place on a page and have to find it again the hard way